| henry1 | Where can I get a binary Linaro toolchain so that I can put it anywhere I want? | 01:00 |
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| GrueMaster | Check on #linaro. Someone there would know. | 01:06 |
| GrueMaster | Grrr. A1 is a fail at this point. Kernel oops on second boot, shortly after mounting rootfs. http://paste.ubuntu.com/538505/ | 01:12 |
| GrueMaster | ogra: rsalveti: ^^^ | 01:12 |
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| hrw | morning | 07:54 |
| sveinse | Hi guys. This is perhaps OT here, but I tried to cross compile Qt using the g++-arm-linux-gnueabi compiler from Maverick. The compilation failed, while the CodeSourcery gcc don't. The failure is "selected processor does not support Thumb mode `swp r4,r3,[r2]'". The compile options are set to "-march=armv7-a -mtune=cortex-a8 -mfloat-abi=softfp -mfpu=neon". I notice the CSL gcc is 4.4.1, while... | 12:16 |
| sveinse | ...the Ubuntu gcc is 4.5.1. Does this ring any bells to anyone? | 12:17 |
| rsalveti | hrw: ^ | 12:21 |
| hrw | sveinse: can you report bug against gcc-4.5 and give me number? | 12:22 |
| sveinse | hrw: In whos bug system? Gcc or ubutu? | 12:24 |
| hrw | ubuntu | 12:24 |
| sveinse | hrw: I could try recompiling using the 4.4 version to see if its related to some difference between the CSL and Ubuntu or if its related to 4.4. vs 4.5 | 12:25 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: regarding the custom netbook-launcher-efl session | 12:27 |
| tmzt_g2root | yes | 12:28 |
| tmzt_g2root | rsalveti: maybe #linaro ? | 12:28 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: I found descriptions on how to build a custom session in some ubuntu wiki. I was searching for how to customize the gnome panel as it is locked | 12:29 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: the problems I see with netbook on small screen touchscreen devices are only few | 12:29 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: the instructions didn't work for me, the gconf stuff didn't change anything | 12:29 |
| tmzt_g2root | yeah, it's pretty nice. installing packagekit fixed software-center | 12:30 |
| tmzt_g2root | it's a bit off the screen but mostly usable | 12:30 |
| ogra_ac_ | tmzt_g2root, hrw is in both channels luckily (#linaro and here) ;) | 12:30 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: 1) off-screen areas in some programs (related to maximus) 2) small buttons, scroll bars, etc => problems navigating | 12:31 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: let's work on here https://github.com/tmzt/native-netbook we should be able to share everything between hd2 and androix on wvga ws | 12:31 |
| ogra_ac_ | dcordes, to change the locked gnome-panel properly you would have to change and rebuild ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings | 12:32 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: that would be nice. but to keep in touch with upstream we should document our work in launchpad | 12:32 |
| ogra_ac_ | all panel settings we do there are mandatory | 12:32 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: right, I'm just trying to collect scripts and stuff and then when I'm ready to do a package like ogra says I can just migrate that stuff | 12:33 |
| tmzt_g2root | we can put in on a ppa too, but I don't know if you have to be a developer for that | 12:33 |
| tmzt_g2root | can't put raw scripts on ppa though | 12:33 |
| ogra_ac_ | currently you have to for armel only packages | 12:33 |
| ogra_ac_ | ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings is arch all though | 12:33 |
| ogra_ac_ | so for that package any ppa will do | 12:34 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: ... forgot an important point 3) on screen keyboard not available everywhere | 12:34 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac_: it will probably require changing launcher itself, we need kinetic scrolling and mtdev (finger width) support | 12:34 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: that might be an issue, it isn't for me with g2 though, but please solve it | 12:34 |
| tmzt_g2root | I'm trying to get androix to send some events for soft keys on android | 12:34 |
| ogra_ac_ | tmzt_g2root, well, then you have to wait until our armel PPA spec is implemented | 12:35 |
| tmzt_g2root | I haven't decided how to handle them yet thouh | 12:35 |
| ogra_ac_ | which wont happen before the alpha2 release i suspect | 12:35 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac_: okay, I'm putting together a repo on androix.org for now | 12:35 |
| ogra_ac_ | but it will enable armel on all PPAs | 12:35 |
| tmzt_g2root | that would be good, especially if it could build for older architectures, but I don't expect that | 12:35 |
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| ogra_ac | it will use the ubuntu defaults | 12:36 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: regarding on screen keyboard lack 3) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/626055 | 12:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 626055 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config: make on-screen keyboard available (affects: 1) (heat: 40)" [Low,New] | 12:36 |
| tmzt_g2root | maybe we could do a small panel thing that just does indicators, no clue if they would work with efl though | 12:36 |
| tmzt_g2root | we could mix in illume and gnome, that would be confusing | 12:37 |
| ogra_ac | have a look at ubiquity | 12:37 |
| ogra_ac | it brings a minimal panel in maverick | 12:37 |
| ogra_ac | i guess its not hard to rip the panel code out of it and build a standalone package | 12:37 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: I need to ask you about remixes and policies, I'm trying to build something to run Ubuntu on top of Android, for now I'm calling it Native Netbook | 12:38 |
| tmzt_g2root | yeah, uquity works on 2d? | 12:39 |
| ogra_ac | sure | 12:39 |
| tmzt_g2root | cool, we'll look at that then | 12:39 |
| ogra_ac | tmzt_g2root, mail trademarks@ubuntu.com, i dont know the exact policy | 12:40 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: small panel ? can you elaborate ? | 12:40 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: how do you find this stuff in lp? | 12:40 |
| ogra_ac | might be that you cant use the logos etc | 12:40 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: I enter my lp URI :) | 12:40 |
| ogra_ac | http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy | 12:41 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: I'm going to let you handle keyboard stuff :) but I'm sure I'll need it when people with nexus, etc. want to try it | 12:43 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: I don't have any android device, sorry. | 12:44 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: right, it's not an android issue though, it's a touchscreen issue | 12:44 |
| tmzt_g2root | and you do have a leo | 12:44 |
| tmzt_g2root | I would be using an osk in X, not androids | 12:45 |
| dcordes | I am using onboard , the standard ubuntu osk | 12:45 |
| tmzt_g2root | can't IME do what your bug 443986 says, pop up osk if the widget gets keyboard focus? | 12:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 443986 in onboard "RFE: Add option to automatically show and hide onboard (affects: 5) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/443986 | 12:46 |
| tmzt_g2root | I guess X really needs a flag to tell it if a physical keyboard is attaeched, or you would have to enumerate the Xi2 device list | 12:47 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: that would be nice | 12:48 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: what is IME ? | 12:48 |
| tmzt_g2root | input methods | 12:48 |
| tmzt_g2root | it would require a gtk/gdk patch too I assume | 12:48 |
| tmzt_g2root | but at least there's a standard way to handle that | 12:48 |
| dcordes | can you append it in the bug ? | 12:48 |
| tmzt_g2root | it's also possible openmoko had this on the gtk version a few versions back | 12:48 |
| tmzt_g2root | and figure out oauth again? :) | 12:49 |
| dcordes | currently openmokoe shr uses some efl osk keyboard | 12:49 |
| tmzt_g2root | how do you add a project or distribution? | 12:49 |
| tmzt_g2root | currently, I'm talking about the gtk version they had | 12:49 |
| tmzt_g2root | they also had the finger gtk theme | 12:49 |
| dcordes | right I remember | 12:50 |
| tmzt_g2root | I've ping #xorg-devel about the Xi question | 12:50 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: have you tried getting any of the new 3d stuff to compile against bionic so it can use libgles_cm? | 12:50 |
| dcordes | many touchscreen device owners would love such a feature in Xorg | 12:50 |
| dcordes | I have no clue about all the 3d stuff | 12:51 |
| tmzt_g2root | it's one properties, PhysicalKeyboard or whatever | 12:51 |
| tmzt_g2root | that's why I'm sticking with efl at the moment | 12:51 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/X/Blueprints/Touchscreen/UDS-M | 12:52 |
| tmzt_g2root | that's not kubuntu specific, they just show up higher in google | 12:52 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: what happened to the mobile channel? where did all the netbook stuff get moved too? | 12:53 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: ok. we might as well discuss TS things in #ubuntu-touch | 12:54 |
| tmzt_g2root | I should just see if starting metacity fixes it, I don't think maximus is supposed to work standalone | 12:57 |
| tmzt_g2root | if you have a working panel config I can help you push it to my git or whatever you have | 12:57 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: in launchpad we might create a 'project' 'ubuntu on small screen (& touch screen devices)' | 12:59 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: then we can have bugs like off screen windows, lack of osk affect it | 12:59 |
| tmzt_g2root | WVGA Touchscreen ? | 12:59 |
| dcordes | that would exclude vga devices and exotic resolutions | 12:59 |
| tmzt_g2root | like qvga? | 13:00 |
| tmzt_g2root | you need this for your kaiser :) ? | 13:00 |
| tmzt_g2root | WVGA is a difficult case, most of the bugs will be height related and also apply to VGA | 13:00 |
| dcordes | QVGA screens are too small for any of this and the devices' other hw is too slow to run full ubuntu systems | 13:01 |
| hrw | in basement I have XGA 10" touchscreen device | 13:01 |
| dcordes | I think small screen is good. but what about the approach ? | 13:01 |
| dcordes | in general means | 13:01 |
| tmzt_g2root | define small | 13:01 |
| dcordes | ok max wvga | 13:01 |
| tmzt_g2root | this isn't for XGA or WXGA or 1024x600 there's plenty of coverage for that | 13:01 |
| dcordes | ah true | 13:02 |
| dcordes | didn't think of that | 13:02 |
| dcordes | we can do smartphone & pda then ? | 13:02 |
| dcordes | it would cover phone functionalities | 13:02 |
| ogra_ac | tmzt_g2root, netbook (unity) is fully handled by the desktop team now (since unity merges both desktops) | 13:02 |
| tmzt_g2root | wvga+ like the motorola's I would say, but that's waht 854x496 or so | 13:02 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: is 2d/framebuffer still supported? | 13:02 |
| ogra_ac | not atm | 13:03 |
| ogra_ac | only with a std desktop as fallback | 13:03 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: I don't have 3d support yet, I should be able to get 3d working but it might just be redirected rendering/AIGLX stuff | 13:03 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: know what let's just go device specific (ubuntu on hd2 & g2) if others want to hop on we can generalize later | 13:04 |
| ogra_ac | depends on your platform, there is no GLES support in unity yet | 13:04 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: so I'm starting with netbook-efl, most of these problems will be unrelated to the acutal desktop, bugs in programs etc. | 13:04 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: well, it's going to have to be GLES, so that's another reason to stick with 2d for now | 13:04 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: G2 won't have keyboard issues, the things we have in common are WVGA and Touchscreen | 13:05 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: ok I don't see a problem there | 13:05 |
| ogra_ac | just note that we might stop using the efl launcher in ubuntu (so support will rather have to be community based) | 13:06 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: yeah, it will still be in natty or that's not known yet | 13:06 |
| ogra_ac | we wont remove the package from the archive | 13:07 |
| ogra_ac | but given that it will likely not be used by default anymore bugfixes and maintenance has to come from the community | 13:08 |
| tmzt_g2root | I think the only thing we need to change in it is the scrolling issue for touchscreens | 13:08 |
| tmzt_g2root | yeah, okay | 13:08 |
| tmzt_g2root | does it have a maintainer or we need ubuntu developer for that? (not canoncial) | 13:09 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: how about "smallscreentouchscreen" project | 13:09 |
| ogra_ac | well, you can indeed work through a sponsor | 13:09 |
| ogra_ac | but for uploading to ubuntu you will need one | 13:09 |
| tmzt_g2root | what is the project for? just tracking bugs against ubuntu that affect screenscreen touchscreens? I really think small is too vague | 13:10 |
| dcordes | yes to track bugs that affect our devices | 13:10 |
| tmzt_g2root | as far as aspect, we really aren't going to support vga either because that would require massive chnages from what every laptop/netbook is now | 13:10 |
| dcordes | and maybe to upload non-sub-project-specific scripts/code later | 13:11 |
| tmzt_g2root | well, the packages, but those are all config stuff, I wouldn't be putting any system stuff there at all | 13:12 |
| dcordes | yes config etc | 13:12 |
| tmzt_g2root | I mean like launcher defaults, maybe unity places stuff if we can switch to unity | 13:12 |
| * ogra_ac is off for a while | 13:16 | |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: smartphonebuntu ? I think it is not neccessary for the project name to refelct the exact aims | 13:17 |
| tmzt_g2root | no, read the trademark policy | 13:17 |
| tmzt_g2root | which ogra linked to | 13:18 |
| dcordes | argh | 13:18 |
| dcordes | smartphone-remix | 13:18 |
| tmzt_g2root | possibly | 13:18 |
| dcordes | you like it? any other idea ? | 13:18 |
| tmzt_g2root | it | 13:19 |
| tmzt_g2root | I'm looking for developer to create new on-screen keyboard with Input Method Editor. Similar to those available on mobile devices. Currently I'm using matchbox-keyboard but for my purpose I guess it's worth start from scratch. | 13:19 |
| tmzt_g2root | oops | 13:19 |
| tmzt_g2root | it seems to be what I'm trying to do | 13:19 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: https://launchpad.net/smartphone | 13:41 |
| tmzt_g2root | can you duplicate the ~lg bugs there? | 13:52 |
| tmzt_g2root | link them | 13:52 |
| ogra_ac | GrueMaster, where is the bug for that and does cooloney already know (and work on it) ? | 14:04 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: I did already. check https://bugs.launchpad.net/smartphone | 14:09 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: I discussed the xinput problem, I think I can just add a property to the device by patching evdev, or in my case, in the server init | 14:10 |
| tmzt_g2root | so it would show up when you do xinput list-props <id> | 14:10 |
| tmzt_g2root | there's already a "Device Enabled" property | 14:11 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: to which device ? | 14:12 |
| tmzt_g2root | then the IME just has to walk that and see if any are Physical && Enabled, and if so, not show the osk | 14:12 |
| tmzt_g2root | to the keyboard device | 14:12 |
| dcordes | ok | 14:12 |
| tmzt_g2root | then we patch evdev to handle the SW event that's created when you slide the keyboard | 14:12 |
| tmzt_g2root | for you, when you plug your usb keyboard the same thing happens | 14:13 |
| tmzt_g2root | and for me, I get the value from android and set the priv myself | 14:13 |
| dcordes | is this a global keyboard presence detection mechanism ? | 14:14 |
| tmzt_g2root | yeah | 14:14 |
| dcordes | patching evdev - is this specific to the device (driver) ? | 14:14 |
| tmzt_g2root | but onscreen keyboards and x2x won't register that property | 14:14 |
| tmzt_g2root | no, evdev already detects if it it's a keyboard, it will be wrong for uinput keyboards so we may have to put it in udev or something else | 14:15 |
| tmzt_g2root | like hal did, but it didn't propogate it | 14:15 |
| dcordes | are there evdev / Xorg bugtrackers ? | 14:15 |
| tmzt_g2root | there are, but I'll propose it to the list later, we can just put it on my github for now | 14:16 |
| dcordes | youz should publish the approach and gather interested people's attention | 14:16 |
| tmzt_g2root | I already have half of xorg cloned | 14:16 |
| dcordes | ok bugtracker is nice | 14:16 |
| * ogra_ac would recommend asking in #ubuntu-x | 14:16 | |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: is that supposed to be public? I was having an issue with it | 14:16 |
| ogra_ac | sure thats public | 14:16 |
| tmzt_g2root | never mind | 14:16 |
| tmzt_g2root | weird | 14:16 |
| dcordes | ogra_ac: as tmzt_g2root's approach sounds to me it will be better to have it a global X thing and not discuss it distro internal | 14:17 |
| ogra_ac | sure | 14:17 |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: I pinged daniels in #xorg-devel he agreed with the property thing, and reminded me of Device Enabled | 14:17 |
| dcordes | then again there might be many ubuntu developers interested in supporting it | 14:17 |
| ogra_ac | still you should talk to the ubuntu X force | 14:17 |
| tmzt_g2root | I'm sure acpi devices already have something like that | 14:18 |
| tmzt_g2root | right | 14:18 |
| tmzt_g2root | touchpads I mean | 14:18 |
| dcordes | ogra_ac: soon as it is on Xorg list we should refer to it there | 14:18 |
| dcordes | I have to run catch you guys around | 14:19 |
| ogra | sigh | 14:53 |
| ogra | so i think the kernel panic on boot is run-init failing | 14:53 |
| ogra | /init: exec: line 331: run-init: Unknown error 17718852 | 14:54 |
| * ogra wonders if that toolchain related | 14:54 | |
| ogra | GrueMaster, rsalveti, bug 683683 | 14:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 683683 in klibc (Ubuntu) "run-init on omap4 in natty dies with "run-init: Unknown error 17718852" (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683683 | 14:58 |
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| ogra | NCommander, so apparently klibc wasnt rebuilt yet in natty | 15:12 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, btw, the error is easily visible if you dont tinker with serial consoles, it gets clearly printed on the screen | 15:13 |
| RobotGuy | We are basing our PickleJar Linux on Ubuntu Maverick. :D | 15:13 |
| RobotGuy | PickleJar Linux is the distro for our Pico Node project. | 15:14 |
| ogra | RobotGuy, great to hear | 15:16 |
| RobotGuy | We have an expansion board for BeagleBoard-xM in the design process now and hope to have the first few boards soon. Find out more at http://www.picklejar.org | 15:17 |
| RobotGuy | Our kernel version is 2.6.35.4 | 15:18 |
| ogra | hrm, run-init is 93 LOC ... of which 40 are license text | 15:19 |
| * ogra doesnt see what could be wrong in there | 15:20 | |
| NCommander | ogra: so no changes rebuild needed maybe? | 15:21 |
| ogra | not sure | 15:22 |
| ogra | look at the code, probably you see something obvious | 15:22 |
| ogra | i surely dont | 15:22 |
| ogra | hmm runinitlib.c seems to define some glibc stuff at the top | 15:22 |
| NCommander | ogra: something is going hidiously wrongin run_init() | 15:29 |
| ogra | why would it ? | 15:29 |
| ogra | it didnt change | 15:30 |
| NCommander | ogra: I'm saying that's what happening, I don't know why, but the error message being printed out suggests that's where we are blowing up | 15:30 |
| ogra | well, but take a look at the code, probably you see something i dont | 15:30 |
| NCommander | /* If run_init returns, something went wrong */ | 15:30 |
| NCommander | fprintf(stderr, "%s: %s: %s\n", program, error, strerror(errno)); | 15:30 |
| ogra | no, we are blowing up in line 88 already | 15:31 |
| ogra | in run_init(realroot, console, init, initargs); | 15:31 |
| ogra | which seems to come from runinitlib.c | 15:31 |
| ogra | through run-init.h | 15:32 |
| NCommander | right, run_init() is returning when it shouldn't e | 15:32 |
| ogra | yes | 15:32 |
| NCommander | the execv() call is failing | 15:33 |
| NCommander | only place it can fail in this code and return a string of "Unknown error" I think | 15:34 |
| ogra | well, it could fail because it gets wrong args | 15:34 |
| ogra | and the linaro bug says the errno is random | 15:34 |
| ogra | so nothing to grab | 15:34 |
| NCommander | which linaro bug? | 15:34 |
| ogra | did you read my bug ? | 15:35 |
| NCommander | yeah, I did | 15:35 |
| NCommander | I don't see anything from linaro | 15:35 |
| NCommander | oh | 15:35 |
| ogra | reload ? | 15:35 |
| ogra | :) | 15:35 |
| * NCommander just hit refresh | 15:35 | |
| ogra | oh, i did too | 15:35 |
| ogra | there is a debian bug linked | 15:35 |
| NCommander | Debug #334917 | 15:35 |
| NCommander | er | 15:35 |
| NCommander | Debian bug #334917 | 15:36 |
| ubot2 | Debian bug 334917 in klibc "klibc barfs on m68k syscall interface" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/334917 | 15:36 |
| NCommander | nice bug title | 15:36 |
| RobotGuy | Debug seems appropriate, somehow. :D :D | 15:36 |
| NCommander | ogra: looking at the debian bug, I think its unrelated simply because execve is a syscall and the first one is called directly. the ARM EABI syscall interface in klibc is correct else this would have blown up ages ago. So similar error, but I think unrelated causes | 15:38 |
| GrueMaster | ogra: Ok I'm semi-awake. What do you mean: <ogra> GrueMaster, btw, the error is easily visible if you dont tinker with serial consoles, it gets clearly printed on the screen | 15:38 |
| GrueMaster | It is not clearly visible on my screen. | 15:38 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, you could have found it with the image from the 19th if you hadnt set up a serial console and just dropped splash from cmdline | 15:39 |
| ogra | thats how i got it at least | 15:39 |
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| ogra | it shows up right before the kernel panic (which it does because there is no rootfs) | 15:39 |
| NCommander | ogra: I'm looking at the linaro branch right now to see if anything is clear from that | 15:40 |
| ogra | branch ? | 15:40 |
| ogra | do they have a separate klibc branch from ubuntu ? | 15:40 |
| GrueMaster | So then why doesn't it show up with serial console? | 15:41 |
| GrueMaster | That doesn't make sense. | 15:41 |
| NCommander | ogra: they said in their bug that they have a branch to fix it | 15:41 |
| ogra | NCommander, yes, for the linaro build tools issue that shows up too | 15:42 |
| ogra | NCommander, (OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory from remove_binary_dir.py from _run_code from _run_module_as_main). | 15:42 |
| ogra | not related to to booting | 15:42 |
| * ogra reboots with break=bottom | 15:47 | |
| ogra | lets take a look at the environment | 15:47 |
| ogra | ok | 15:49 |
| ogra | exec run-init /root /sbin/init gets me the same error | 15:50 |
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| NCommander | ogra: any chance you can get gdbserver into the initramfs environment? | 16:04 |
| * NCommander finally got enough coffee into his bloodstream to be lucid enough to think | 16:04 | |
| ogra | try it ? | 16:04 |
| NCommander | ogra: your ahead of me on having things to test on :-). I'm still reading emails while drinking GrueBrew Coffee | 16:05 |
| ogra | i dont have any things to test on | 16:05 |
| ogra | i just added break=bottom to my cdmline | 16:06 |
| ogra | you need to write a hook and rebuild the initrd for getting your gdbserver included | 16:06 |
| ogra | or for getting any other debug tool | 16:06 |
| NCommander | ogra: just copy it in somehow, its not that difficult | 16:08 |
| NCommander | but I'll get on it | 16:08 |
| ogra | ?? | 16:08 |
| ogra | "copy it in somehow" ? | 16:08 |
| NCommander | ogra: gdbserver is a tiny little stub binary | 16:09 |
| NCommander | then attach to it with a cross-debugger | 16:09 |
| ogra | you still need to re-roll the initrd | 16:10 |
| ogra | so init=/bin/bash doesnt work either | 16:16 |
| * ogra drops all bootarchs apart from root= | 16:17 | |
| ogra | argh | 16:18 |
| ogra | bad idea ... | 16:18 |
| * ogra beats jasper over the head | 16:18 | |
| GrueMaster | So it's a jasper issue? I'm still reading emails and backscrolls. | 16:22 |
| mellis | hey any idea how to get sound working on the beagle xm rev b | 16:22 |
| GrueMaster | there is a rev b? sigh. | 16:22 |
| mellis | yeah :( | 16:23 |
| armin76 | lol | 16:23 |
| mellis | i dont think they fixed anything really | 16:24 |
| GrueMaster | no, but it is possible that something changed requiring an updated kernel...again. | 16:25 |
| GrueMaster | Are you running the stock maverick release image? | 16:25 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, ?? | 16:26 |
| ogra | its a klibc issue | 16:27 |
| ogra | nothing to do with jasper | 16:27 |
| GrueMaster | and I am not talking to you atm ogra. Read the current thread. | 16:27 |
| GrueMaster | mellis: ??? | 16:27 |
| mellis | sorry just went to get food | 16:38 |
| mellis | yeah i got the minimal image and installed ubuntu-desktop package over it | 16:38 |
| GrueMaster | no problem. | 16:39 |
| GrueMaster | minimal image? | 16:39 |
| mellis | also called the demo image | 16:41 |
| mellis | i couldint get s-video to work on the preinstalled image | 16:41 |
| davidm | prpplague, have a look at: http://dmtechtalk.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/progress-on-an-arm-cluster-server-box/ | 16:43 |
| mellis | yeah i got the demo image then installed ubuntu-desktop and the omap driveres on top | 16:43 |
| davidm | prpplague, it will fit nicely into a standard 19" rack cabinet | 16:43 |
| GrueMaster | If this image is attached to the ubuntu repositories, try enabling maverick-proposed and updating. I think there was a fix for audio in alsa-utils, but it may be only omap4 specific. | 16:44 |
| mellis | ok i will try | 16:45 |
| * prpplague looks | 16:47 | |
| prpplague | davidm: right, i'm actually doing some with them on that | 16:47 |
| mellis | humm my webcam also wont work so could it be a kernal problem? | 16:49 |
| hrw | mellis: does it work with x86 box? | 16:51 |
| mellis | the webcam yes | 16:52 |
| sveinse | hrw: I confirm problems cross compiling Qt for both gcc 4.4 and 4.5, so its related to some difference between the ubuntu cross compiler and the CSL. I'll file a bug. | 17:00 |
| mellis | and i cant find anything missing from my setup | 17:00 |
| hrw | sveinse: mention package versions for gcc 4.4/4.5 and version of Qt. if Qt is from nokia then give url please | 17:02 |
| * hrw -> out | 17:02 | |
| === hrw is now known as hrw|gone | ||
| ogra | hmm, that dist-upgrade of my chroot will take a while | 17:34 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: lmbench has the wrong bin path, if you noticed | 18:04 |
| rsalveti | currently the package delivers armv5tel-linux-gnu instead of armv7l-linux-gnu | 18:05 |
| rsalveti | that's because the package path is decided during build time, and detected by a script during runtime | 18:05 |
| GrueMaster | hadn't gotten that far yet. Any suggestions? | 18:05 |
| rsalveti | and this package was built in an armv5 machine, while in karmic hehe :-) | 18:05 |
| rsalveti | copying the files should be enough, but I also recreated the package, let me post you the link | 18:06 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: how do you switch the default gnome-session back to GNOME ? | 18:06 |
| tmzt_g2root | without using gdm | 18:06 |
| ogra_ac | tmzt_g2root, /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-set-default-session | 18:07 |
| tmzt_g2root | as the user? | 18:09 |
| tmzt_g2root | I don't seem to have that | 18:09 |
| tmzt_g2root | oh, I'm not using gdm at all | 18:09 |
| ogra_ac | no, its system wide, not as a user | 18:09 |
| tmzt_g2root | just starting ck-session-launch dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session | 18:10 |
| tmzt_g2root | right, but I'm not getting a panel following these instructions | 18:10 |
| tmzt_g2root | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuNetbookEdition/ConvertGnomeSession | 18:10 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/lmbench/ for now | 18:12 |
| GrueMaster | ok | 18:13 |
| rsalveti | we should have a bug, will see if we got it already otherwise need to fill it | 18:13 |
| mellis | hey i just installed the omap kernal package how do i get it to boot | 18:15 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: that is the wiki page I was talking about ! | 18:15 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: I know, I saw it yesterday, but it doesn't work for me | 18:15 |
| tmzt_g2root | /apps/maximus/exclude_class [Empathy,Totem,Gwibber,Gnome-language-selector,Gtk-recordMyDesktop,Onboard,Vlc,Seahorse-agent,Gnome-keyring-prompt] | 18:16 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: there was some error in the 2d instruction part | 18:16 |
| tmzt_g2root | I'll have to add dialog or something to that, or just gedit's or libgtk open | 18:17 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: do you want me to look up anything in my rootfs ? | 18:18 |
| tmzt_g2root | what script do you use to start the gnome-session? | 18:18 |
| dcordes | sudo ln -s /etc/xdg/xdg-une/autostart/maximus-autostart.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/ | 18:20 |
| dcordes | sudo ln -s /etc/xdg/xdg-une-efl/autostart/netbook-launcher-efl.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/ | 18:20 |
| tmzt_g2root | I have both of those, I don't get a panel when starting gnome-session | 18:20 |
| tmzt_g2root | the first time I started gnome-session it was a normal desktop, before symlinking that stuff | 18:21 |
| dcordes | the first line.. I think it should be | 18:21 |
| dcordes | /etc/xdg/xdg-une-efl/autostart/netbook-launcher-efl.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/ | 18:21 |
| tmzt_g2root | /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager mutter | 18:21 |
| tmzt_g2root | /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/panel '' | 18:21 |
| tmzt_g2root | oh | 18:21 |
| dcordes | can you try that ? | 18:22 |
| tmzt_g2root | still no panel | 18:26 |
| tmzt_g2root | nevermind, it was just slow | 18:27 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, so building klibc brings intresting results in the buildlog | 18:28 |
| tmzt_g2root | vte doesn't work, I have never seen that before | 18:28 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, it has -march=armv4 -mtune=strongarm hardcoded | 18:28 |
| ogra_ac | (but given that has always been the casei wouldnt think that has any influence on our bug) | 18:29 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: yeah, was looking at that, but I think its irrevelent | 18:30 |
| NCommander | klibc didn't help, nor did upstart | 18:30 |
| ogra_ac | you rebuilt it ? | 18:30 |
| NCommander | I tried downgrading the kernel to maverick release on a hunch | 18:30 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: yeah | 18:30 |
| ogra_ac | what would upstart have to do with it ? | 18:30 |
| ogra_ac | we are way before upstart | 18:30 |
| ogra_ac | and as i said in the bug init=/bin/bash didnt work either | 18:31 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: sorry, meant to say that I don't htink upstart helps | 18:31 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: or part of it | 18:31 |
| ogra_ac | no, upstart is out of scope here | 18:31 |
| NCommander | right | 18:31 |
| NCommander | Very very odd | 18:31 |
| ogra_ac | i still think its the args that are messed up | 18:31 |
| ogra_ac | try to add some schos to /init | 18:31 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: yeah, but what changed to kill the args | 18:31 |
| ogra_ac | *echos | 18:31 |
| ogra_ac | echo $@ | 18:32 |
| ogra_ac | echo ${rootmnt} | 18:32 |
| ogra_ac | and | 18:32 |
| ogra_ac | echo ${init} | 18:33 |
| ogra_ac | see what that shows | 18:33 |
| ogra_ac | also note that break= drops you into a subshell, so you cant run run-init manually | 18:33 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: how close are you to doing so? (I can rapidly respin the initrams ATM on my ac100, but if your already doing it ...) | 18:33 |
| ogra_ac | i'm not even near my panda atm | 18:33 |
| ogra_ac | just building klibc remotely with different options | 18:34 |
| ogra_ac | so i would appreciate if you could test | 18:34 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: what script calls run-init? (or do I need to smack the code) | 18:34 |
| ogra_ac | /init | 18:34 |
| ogra_ac | its a shell script | 18:35 |
| ogra_ac | just add some echos | 18:35 |
| ogra_ac | lives in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init | 18:35 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: thanks. I thought you called run-init directly thoguh within a console with proper args and still got a crash | 18:35 |
| ogra_ac | in the normal system | 18:35 |
| ogra_ac | i tried that | 18:35 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: disclaimer: I don't get the run-init error, just the panic on the serial console | 18:35 |
| ogra_ac | just to be told that wont work because i'm in a subshell | 18:35 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, you will get it on the monitor if you boot without splash | 18:36 |
| ogra_ac | you will also get it if you boot with break=bottom and ctrl-d out of it to continue the boot | 18:36 |
| ogra_ac | run-init will only work if called by pid 1 | 18:37 |
| ogra_ac | so you cant call it manually | 18:37 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: I don't have a monitor I can use in my "office" | 18:40 |
| ogra_ac | then just break=bottom | 18:40 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: will do | 18:41 |
| * NCommander kicks his ac100 | 18:41 | |
| ogra_ac | and hit ctrl-d | 18:41 |
| ogra_ac | did you finally manage to wear out your emmc ? | 18:41 |
| ogra_ac | :) | 18:41 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: no, the USB controller is having mini-seizures | 18:41 |
| ogra_ac | ah | 18:42 |
| NCommander | and every once in awhile, it and my USB HDD decide to cause a process to become a zombie | 18:42 |
| NCommander | very annoying when thats dpkg | 18:42 |
| ogra_ac | just fix the kernel ;) | 18:44 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: not paid to do that ATM :-/ | 18:44 |
| * ogra_ac will spend a good part of his holiday improving the ac100 | 18:44 | |
| tmzt_g2root | ogra_ac: tegra? | 18:45 |
| ogra_ac | tmzt_g2root, yep | 18:45 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: \o/ | 18:46 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, dont party to early, i will concentrate on moving PM and buttom management into the .29 kernel only | 18:46 |
| NCommander | ugh | 18:47 |
| NCommander | /o\ | 18:47 |
| ogra_ac | for never kernel talk to marvin24 | 18:48 |
| ogra_ac | ;) | 18:48 |
| ogra_ac | he has something based on .36, just misses a regulator specialist | 18:48 |
| tmzt_g2root | regulator? | 18:49 |
| ogra_ac | to power on the LCD i think | 18:49 |
| ogra_ac | it boots to a serial USB console | 18:49 |
| tmzt_g2root | clean up the nvidia oem stuff so it stops asking a binary layer to describe the hardware? | 18:49 |
| ogra_ac | but has no device drivers yet | 18:49 |
| ogra_ac | no, i will just revert the hacks tochiba put in | 18:49 |
| tmzt_g2root | then get nouveu?? ported | 18:50 |
| ogra_ac | and see that i get some sane defaults into the kernel | 18:50 |
| ogra_ac | nah | 18:50 |
| ogra_ac | i dont care about 3D drivers | 18:50 |
| ogra_ac | i just need power management | 18:50 |
| tmzt_g2root | the 2d is crtc only | 18:50 |
| tmzt_g2root | lcdc | 18:50 |
| ogra_ac | i need backlight on/off on lid close and want to have ondemand scaling working | 18:51 |
| ogra_ac | extra points for dimming support | 18:51 |
| ogra_ac | and a proper ubuntu initrd | 18:51 |
| ogra_ac | thats my current focus for the vacation | 18:51 |
| tmzt_g2root | you don't have an android phones do you? | 18:52 |
| ogra_ac | nope, i have a sane phone | 18:52 |
| tmzt_g2root | smart mount -t devpts devpts $MOUNTPT/dev | 18:54 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, want to have my klibc built for armv7 ? | 18:55 |
| ogra_ac | or do you have one already ? | 18:55 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: haven't needed it yet | 18:56 |
| ogra_ac | k | 18:57 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: got debugging data | 18:57 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: rootmnt is "/root" | 18:57 |
| NCommander | init is "/sbin/init" | 18:57 |
| NCommander | arguments: "fixrtc" | 18:57 |
| NCommander | That was amazingly unuseful | 18:57 |
| ogra_ac | yeah | 18:57 |
| * NCommander throws it into the bug for completeness sake | 18:57 | |
| ogra_ac | i wonder if the bindmounted /dev is ok | 18:58 |
| ogra_ac | i.e. if we get the right console | 18:58 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: easy way to test that | 18:58 |
| NCommander | but run-init has a sanity check for that it should fail with "unable to open consoel" or something like that | 18:59 |
| NCommander | and its the right major/minor for dev console | 18:59 |
| ogra_ac | in /dev | 19:00 |
| ogra_ac | i'm talking about $rootmount/dev | 19:00 |
| ogra_ac | udev should move mount /dev to /root/dev, but i wonder what happens if that doesnt work/happen | 19:01 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: system would fallover | 19:01 |
| ogra_ac | yeah, likely even before run-init | 19:01 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: I think you might be onto something | 19:02 |
| NCommander | /root/dev is populated | 19:02 |
| NCommander | we have a newer upstream udev | 19:03 |
| NCommander | and udev sometimes breaks backwards compatilbility with older kernels | 19:03 |
| ogra_ac | see /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-bottom/udev | 19:03 |
| NCommander | and mainline kernel is on 37 | 19:03 |
| NCommander | hrm | 19:03 |
| ogra_ac | probably add some ls in there | 19:03 |
| NCommander | give me a sec, I want to check something else first | 19:03 |
| ogra_ac | before the move ls /dev | 19:03 |
| ogra_ac | after the move ls /root/dev | 19:04 |
| ogra_ac | and compare | 19:04 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: I'm trying to downgrade udev | 19:04 |
| NCommander | to maverick | 19:04 |
| NCommander | just rule it out completely | 19:05 |
| ogra_ac | k | 19:05 |
| ogra_ac | maverick has 162 | 19:06 |
| ogra_ac | natty 164 | 19:06 |
| * ogra_ac checks changelogs | 19:07 | |
| ogra_ac | looks okayish | 19:09 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: no love there, udev downgrade and still a hang | 19:15 |
| NCommander | I'm runng out of things to downgrade | 19:15 |
| ogra_ac | so want my klibc package ? | 19:16 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: sure althoguh at this point I don't think it will help | 19:16 |
| ogra_ac | i dont think it either | 19:17 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: doing the ls devs doesn't reveal anytthing interesting | 19:19 |
| NCommander | I'm running out of ideas | 19:19 |
| ogra_ac | http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/libklibc_1.5.20-1_armel.deb and http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/klibc-utils_1.5.20-1_armel.deb | 19:19 |
| mellis | her where would i go to report / check a bug in the omap kernel | 19:22 |
| NCommander | mellis: downgrading the kenrel didn't fix it | 19:22 |
| NCommander | Don't think this is a kernel problem, probably something with userland | 19:22 |
| mellis | i upgraded my kernal and it fixed my sound problem but my s-video went dead | 19:23 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: I'm wonder ... | 19:24 |
| * NCommander is starting to think run-init == redherring | 19:24 | |
| ogra_ac | yes | 19:24 |
| ogra_ac | thats why i looked at the args | 19:24 |
| ogra_ac | what do you suspect ? | 19:24 |
| sveinse | Anyone there knows the correct gcc options for TI OMAP3? -march=armv7-a -mtune=cortex-a8 | 19:25 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: well, ... I'm not so sure now. I just tried replacing /sbin/init on my panda with /bin/bash, and letting it boot and it just fell over regardless | 19:25 |
| ogra_ac | ?? | 19:26 |
| ogra_ac | you mean in the rootfs ? | 19:26 |
| NCommander | yeah | 19:26 |
| ogra_ac | well, we dont get to the rootfs | 19:26 |
| NCommander | We're getting as far as the execve() call | 19:26 |
| ogra_ac | no matter what you use | 19:26 |
| NCommander | ? | 19:26 |
| NCommander | oh | 19:27 |
| NCommander | yes | 19:27 |
| ogra_ac | i tired init=/bin/bash already | 19:27 |
| GrueMaster | on a different note, I did some preliminary testing of the linaro kernel on my BeagleXM, and it seems ok. Rythmnbox has issues, but I am able to get test sounds to play (R & L are reversed). | 19:27 |
| NCommander | what the hell could cause an exec() call to crap itself? | 19:27 |
| ogra_ac | GrueMaster, awesome, can you let apw know ? | 19:27 |
| ogra_ac | then we have fulfilled our workitems | 19:27 |
| ogra_ac | for the kernel team | 19:27 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: execve is a straight systemcall, but we're not getting an OOPS | 19:30 |
| NCommander | something bloody odd is going on | 19:30 |
| ogra_ac | why would you get an OOPS ? | 19:30 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: er, right, a bad syscall won't cause that | 19:30 |
| NCommander | ugh | 19:30 |
| NCommander | */brain fart* | 19:30 |
| * NCommander rebuilds klibc with debugging info | 19:30 | |
| GrueMaster | yea, I can smell it in here. :P | 19:30 |
| ogra_ac | the OOPS you see has not much to do with run-init failing | 19:30 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: yeah, I got that | 19:31 |
| ogra_ac | the OOPS you see is simply the kernel not finiding init | 19:31 |
| NCommander | right | 19:31 |
| NCommander | hrm | 19:31 |
| ogra_ac | which you also get on older releases if init isnt executable or available | 19:31 |
| ogra_ac | ignore the kernel in this context its all run-init | 19:32 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_ac: I updated the kernel whiteboard for that task. | 19:32 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: right, so I'm rebuilding it now with -O2 -g, and will see if I can attach a debugger to it | 19:32 |
| ogra_ac | GrueMaster, merci | 19:33 |
| NCommander | (knowing our luck, that will mysteriously fix it) | 19:33 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, did you test with my v7 build from above ? | 19:33 |
| ogra_ac | http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/libklibc_1.5.20-1_armel.deb and http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/klibc-utils_1.5.20-1_armel.deb | 19:34 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, ^^^ | 19:34 |
| jcrigby | what if you can't run any executable on rootfs because of some weird ld.so.blah mismatch | 19:34 |
| ogra_ac | hmm | 19:35 |
| tmzt_g2root | with klibc? | 19:35 |
| ogra_ac | yeah, someone should try booting with a maverick initrd | 19:35 |
| ogra_ac | tmzt_g2root, klibc is only used in initrd | 19:37 |
| tmzt_g2root | not paying close enough attention | 19:37 |
| tmzt_g2root | I've got crazy stuff like this but not to the point of err values getting overwritten | 19:37 |
| tmzt_g2root | but, you could try init=/lib/ld-linux.so.3 | 19:38 |
| tmzt_g2root | and see if it prints anything | 19:38 |
| tmzt_g2root | dcordes: you had efl and panel at the same time? I can't get that to work | 19:42 |
| mellis | why wont the omap kernels work with s-video | 19:43 |
| GrueMaster | It isn't an easy interface to test. | 19:44 |
| tmzt_g2root | mellis: missing i2c controller driver? | 19:44 |
| GrueMaster | Not sure if it is just a config flag or it requires more kernel work. | 19:44 |
| mellis | no idea | 19:44 |
| tmzt_g2root | sorry encoder | 19:45 |
| mellis | i have one kernel that works | 19:45 |
| GrueMaster | The only thing I have available for testing that output is my 42" LCD in the livingroom, but it is very difficult to get setup for svideo. | 19:46 |
| mellis | yeah i only have a s-video tv so ima bit stuck | 19:47 |
| sveinse | hrw|gone: Here is bug #683832 as instructed. | 20:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 683832 in gcc-4.4-armel-cross (Ubuntu) "gcc fails to cross compile Qt (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683832 | 20:04 |
| sveinse | I reported the bug in gcc-4.4-armel-cross, but it also applies to gcc-4.5-armel-cross. Do I need to add a new bug, or can I link them for both packages? | 20:11 |
| NCommander | ah haw | 20:32 |
| NCommander | might figured out what broke | 20:32 |
| ogra_ac | tell me | 20:33 |
| jcrigby | the suspense is killing us | 20:34 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: or not | 20:34 |
| NCommander | but if I set init to /bin/dash | 20:34 |
| NCommander | it works | 20:34 |
| NCommander | the plot thickens | 20:34 |
| NCommander | er | 20:35 |
| NCommander | maybe not | 20:35 |
| NCommander | strange | 20:35 |
| NCommander | as soon as run-init runs, it breaks the enviornment | 20:35 |
| ogra_ac | no, /init unsets most of it | 20:36 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: I'm referring to running run-init directly | 20:36 |
| ogra_ac | before it runs run-init | 20:36 |
| NCommander | if I runit through strace, it makes some very pretty output and works | 20:36 |
| NCommander | (sorta) | 20:36 |
| ogra_ac | you cant run it from a pid other than 1 | 20:37 |
| NCommander | I get the same sorta errors though | 20:37 |
| ogra_ac | (you cant run it from the initramfs shell) | 20:37 |
| ogra_ac | if you want to strace or gdb it you have to do that inside /init | 20:38 |
| ogra_ac | you can never do it manually | 20:38 |
| NCommander | strace isn't very useful | 20:46 |
| NCommander | kernel panics before it finishs printing debug info | 20:46 |
| ogra_ac | and gdb will be painful to get commands in | 20:47 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: indeed | 20:50 |
| NCommander | I'm nearly out of ideas here on how to debug | 20:50 |
| jcrigby | I just did a diff on a good initrd vs a bad one and other than binaries the only diff is this: | 20:50 |
| jcrigby | diff -ru goodtree/init badtree/init | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | --- goodtree/init 2010-12-01 13:41:26.376116002 -0700 | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | +++ badtree/init 2010-12-01 13:41:26.796116002 -0700 | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | @@ -53,6 +53,11 @@ | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | export resume= | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | export resume_offset= | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | 20:51 | |
| jcrigby | +# mdadm needs hostname to be set. This has to be done before the udev rules are called! | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | +if [ -f "/etc/hostname" ]; then | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | + /bin/hostname -b -F /etc/hostname 2>&1 1>/dev/null | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | +fi | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | + | 20:51 |
| ogra_ac | yeah, i checked that already | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | # Bring in the main config | 20:51 |
| NCommander | jcrigby: PASTEBIN PLEASE | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | . /conf/initramfs.conf | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | for conf in conf/conf.d/*; do | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | NCommander, I figured it was short enough | 20:51 |
| jcrigby | sorry | 20:51 |
| ogra_ac | and we dont have /etc/hostname inside initrd | 20:51 |
| ogra_ac | so thats a noop | 20:51 |
| NCommander | jcrigby: can you do a diff to tell us what binaries changed between last known good and current? | 20:52 |
| ogra_ac | but we also have a new udev and i see some systemd code in it, but then why wouldnt that also fail on other ubuntu images | 20:52 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: downgrading udev didn't help | 20:52 |
| NCommander | frustatingly enough | 20:52 |
| ogra_ac | how did you downgrade udev ? | 20:52 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: apt-get install udev=162-2 && update-initramfs -u | 20:53 |
| ogra_ac | that wont clean up anything | 20:53 |
| ogra_ac | just overwrite | 20:53 |
| NCommander | ? | 20:53 |
| ogra_ac | you could as well do dpkg -x udev*.deb / | 20:53 |
| ogra_ac | if there are new binaries in the newer udev they will still persist | 20:54 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: well, do you have any better ideas? | 20:54 |
| ogra_ac | no | 20:54 |
| NCommander | ogra: why would the new binaries persist? | 20:54 |
| ogra_ac | because there is nothing removing them | 20:54 |
| ogra_ac | the only sane way to test that would be to take maverick and step by step upgrade | 20:55 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: dpkg will remove files that only exist in the old package as part of a downgrade | 20:55 |
| ogra_ac | but thats painful and will take lots of time | 20:55 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: I'm out of ideas TBH | 20:55 |
| NCommander | and I don't know a good way to debug run-init | 20:55 |
| ogra_ac | i dont think its run-init itself | 20:56 |
| ogra_ac | a good test to see if its actually userspace would be to: boot maverick with init=/foo break=bottom ... then ctrl-d as you do it in natty and see if you get the same error | 20:57 |
| ogra_ac | or make /sbin/init unexecutable or some such instead of init=/foo | 20:57 |
| jcrigby | ok full diff here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/538798/ | 20:57 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: exec() is failingin run-init | 20:57 |
| ogra_ac | exec of the subprocess for /sbin/init, no ? | 20:58 |
| NCommander | so the differences are udev, the kernel, busybox, console-setup, and initramfs-tools | 20:58 |
| NCommander | and some support libs | 20:58 |
| ogra_ac | busybox ... hmm | 20:59 |
| ogra_ac | ignore initramfs-tools | 20:59 |
| ogra_ac | thats only the hostname stuff | 20:59 |
| ogra_ac | wait-for-root can be ignored, we have it mounted properl at that point | 21:00 |
| NCommander | don't think its libuuid | 21:00 |
| NCommander | libc had an upgrade though | 21:00 |
| ogra_ac | i think all of the stuff at the bottom thats in sbin can be ignored actually | 21:00 |
| ogra_ac | libuuid is fine | 21:01 |
| NCommander | I'm pretty sure its not udev | 21:01 |
| ogra_ac | else you wouldnt have /root mounted | 21:01 |
| NCommander | cause we would have seen breakage during mounting | 21:01 |
| ogra_ac | libc didnt change between maverick and natty | 21:01 |
| ogra_ac | i guess libgcc did | 21:01 |
| ogra_ac | but i wouldnt know what effec that should have | 21:02 |
| ogra_ac | the best candidate is busybox | 21:02 |
| ogra_ac | the only big difference we have is the kernel vs x86 | 21:03 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: glibc had an upgrade | 21:03 |
| ogra_ac | and linaro as well is on .35 ( jcrigby might correct me) | 21:03 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, not in natty | 21:04 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: have we had any working natty images? | 21:04 |
| GrueMaster | not that I know of. | 21:04 |
| ogra_ac | nope | 21:04 |
| * ogra_ac doesnt see any eglibc uploads | 21:05 | |
| ogra_ac | nor any syncs that wuld have been processed | 21:05 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, the only image that was tested before yesterdays and todays was the one from the 19th and GrueMaster reported the same issue with that one | 21:06 |
| GrueMaster | Sorry I couldn't debug it further. I found it late that Friday and spend the working part of the following week testing maverick-proposed and doing bug triage. | 21:07 |
| ogra_ac | dont worry | 21:07 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc 2.12.1-0ubuntu9 in maverick and natty | 21:08 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: yes. that works for me in the ootb une-efl session as well as in the hacked gnome efl session | 21:10 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: (panel and efl) | 21:10 |
| dcordes | tmzt_g2root: did you post to the X ml yet ? | 21:11 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: I have no idea ATM, it possibly could be udev but that seems unliekly | 21:11 |
| NCommander | GrueMaster: do we know if maverick->natty upgrades work on armel? | 21:11 |
| ogra_ac | why shouldnt they ? | 21:11 |
| ogra_ac | at this state of the relase they are manual work anyway | 21:12 |
| GrueMaster | hasn't been tested yet. | 21:12 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: because someone wanted to try it, or do dev work? | 21:13 |
| ogra_ac | well, as i said, it will be a lot of manual work anyway atm | 21:13 |
| GrueMaster | dmesg | 21:13 |
| GrueMaster | wrong window (again) | 21:13 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, so what we could try is to do piecemeal updates of the bits that end up in intramfs | 21:13 |
| ogra_ac | and rebuild the initrd after each updated package | 21:14 |
| ogra_ac | then we should see where it breaks | 21:14 |
| NCommander | ogra_ac: thinking about it right now. I think we're going to miss A1 though | 21:15 |
| ogra_ac | NCommander, if you dont feel like doing that i will do it tomorrow, its past 10pm here and i dont count on us making A1 anymore so i will soon stop working | 21:15 |
| NCommander | I'm just mentally thinking | 21:16 |
| ogra_ac | but i think piecemeal upgrade step by step is the best way to find the bad guy | 21:16 |
| ogra_ac | GrueMaster, btw, are you sure your monitor issue isnt something similar ? i.e. is the board still alive even without screen ? | 21:21 |
| * ogra_ac just sees that eglibc in maverick release isnt actually the one in natty | 21:22 | |
| ogra_ac | the one in natty is the same as in -updates and one up from -security | 21:23 |
| GrueMaster | I reimaged on a faster SD card and haven't been able to reproduce that issue. | 21:29 |
| GrueMaster | The Sd card I had initial issues with was a class 2 4G (all I had available at the time). | 21:29 |
| GrueMaster | I'm currently running maverick with the latest proposed updates and other than getting lost during screensaver, it is working fine now. | 21:29 |
| GrueMaster | Unfortunately, my es2.1 is currently tied up with lmbench testing and NCommander has the other panda. | 21:29 |
| GrueMaster | I can try updating my XM image to see if I can get it to break. | 21:29 |
| ogra_ac | that would help too, given that linaro sees the issue with beagles | 21:30 |
| ogra_ac | if you find anything, dump it on the bug | 21:32 |
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