[00:12] <jcastro> booya
[00:12] <jcastro> do you hear that?
[00:12] <jcastro> that's the sound of a DYING WORK ITEM
[00:22] <jono> jcastro, jcastro :)
[00:22] <jono> oops
[00:22] <Pici> Don't say it three times!
[00:29] <jono> jcastro!
[00:29] <jono> lol
[01:09] <jcastro> jono: have you booted into your natty/unity key today?
[01:22] <jono> jcastro, I did earlier
[01:22] <jono> compiz kept crashing for me
[01:42] <duanedesign> jcastro: how did it work for you?  it == unity
[01:45] <duanedesign> it was launching both gnome-panel and unity for me. I edited gconf - /desktop/gnome/session/required_components_list and removed panel and it works well now.
[01:48] <duanedesign> i went ahead and put it all back after i was done playing around. I figured i would let the devs fix it. Dont want my hacks causing trouble down the road. :)
[02:29] <jcastro> duanedesign: update to the lastest
[02:29] <jcastro> to like, within the last 2 hours
[02:29] <jcastro> it doesn't launch the other crap now behind the unity stuff
[02:29] <jcastro> duanedesign: make sure your mirror isn't behind
[02:29] <jcastro> jono: same advice
[02:30] <jcastro> jono: they redid the autohide to slide into the left side of the screen, quite cool
[02:34] <jono> Technoviking, ping?
[02:34] <jono> jcastro, oh cool will update unity
[02:34] <jono> jcastro, I thought it always slid into the left?
[02:34] <jcastro> no
[02:34] <jono> it worked for me yesterday
[02:35] <jcastro> for 2 weeks it's been a placeholder animation that rolled up into the logo
[02:35] <jono> odd it worked for me yesterday
[02:35] <jono> strange
[02:35] <jcastro> also, the BFB no launches /usr/share/applications
[02:35] <jcastro> oh maybe it landed earlier than when I tried it?
[02:35] <jcastro> also, ask me what BFB means in unity!
[02:35] <jcastro> Big Freaking Button, aka, the logo
[02:36] <duanedesign> jcastro: thank you sir
[02:39] <jono> jcastro, the BFB launches what?
[02:40] <jcastro> jono: nautilus in /usr/share/applications
[02:40] <jcastro> it's a poor man's app launcher
[02:40] <jcastro> it did the same thing early in 10.10 alphas
[02:41] <jcastro> jono: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/unitya1.png
[02:51] <jcastro> ah bummer, my first compiz crash
[02:59] <jono> jcastro, ahhh cool
[02:59] <jono> useful for now until the app lens lands
[03:00] <jcastro> indeed
[07:11] <dpm> good morning all
[07:26] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:30]  * jussi grunts in the direction of the channel
[08:00] <kim0> Morning folks
[08:05] <dpm> heya kim0
[08:05] <kim0> dpm: heya :)
[08:14] <kim0> dholbach: o/
[08:18] <dholbach> good morning!
[08:18] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:18] <kim0> howdy
[08:19] <dholbach> kim0, how cold/warm is it in Cairo now? :)
[08:20] <kim0> dholbach: it's ~ 20 Celsius
[08:20] <dholbach> kim0, NICE
[08:21] <kim0> yeah .. it's perfect weather
[08:21] <kim0> loving it
[08:23] <dholbach> -10°C, feels like -20,2°C here
[08:23] <dholbach> the canal is frozen now
[08:23] <kim0> ew
[08:23] <kim0> :)
[08:24] <dholbach> I said to to the Berliners already: tomorrow I could iceskate to work :-P
[08:24] <kim0> well at least that's good :)
[08:38] <dpm> hey dholbach, don't break a leg!
[08:39] <dholbach> I'll try not to :)
[08:39] <dholbach> hey dpm :)
[09:14] <duanedesign> good morning
[09:16] <jussi> huomenta
[09:31] <duanedesign> hey there jussi
[09:43] <jussi> dholbach: around?
[09:43] <dholbach> jussi, yes, but heading out for a few mins - just let me know how I can help and I'll get back to you
[10:13]  * popey tickles dholbach whilst he's out
[10:13] <dholbach> I'm back again :)
[10:33] <czajkowski> Peeka booo
[10:52]  * popey jumps out of his skin
[10:56] <czajkowski> popey: how's the kids? enjoying the snow ?
[11:20] <popey> they haven't been out in it
[11:20] <popey> well, sam might have yesterday at his nannys (my mum) but I think they stayed indoors and made cakes
[11:20] <popey> he loves cooking
[11:20] <popey> (just like his dad
[11:22] <czajkowski> aww nice
[11:22] <czajkowski> has therealpopey started the new positon ?
[11:23] <popey> not yet, but she's going in for some induction or something
[11:23] <czajkowski> good stuff
[11:23] <czajkowski> she all excited or nervous
[11:23] <popey> very excidted
[11:23] <popey> -typos
[11:23] <popey> this means that she'll be making packed lunches for her so I'll probably get them
[11:23] <czajkowski> :)
[11:23] <popey> although thinking about it, I'll probably end up making them
[11:24] <czajkowski> that's really good news!
[11:24] <popey> (she doesn't make very good (i.e. full) sandwiches - I make awesome ones)
[11:24] <popey> yeah, saves a bit of money on lunch too
[11:24] <czajkowski> nods
[11:25] <czajkowski> I got a chicken tika slice at station this morning for lunch 1.50 soo damn tasty
[11:25] <czajkowski> gave up wating for lunch was starving
[11:25] <czajkowski> really need to eat a breakie in the morning
[11:26] <popey> :)
[11:26] <popey> \o/ marmite on toast
[11:26] <popey> breakfast of kings
[11:26] <czajkowski> oddball
[11:26] <czajkowski> marmite is evil
[11:45] <daker> kim0, what should i put on the menu "Screencasts" or "Tutorials" ?
[11:49] <AlanBell> marmite > maple syrup on bacon
[11:52] <dholbach> I can't find the quote right now, but there was some US senator who once said "if immigration was about culinary aspects, I'd probably let everybody in but not the English" :-P
[11:53] <kim0> daker: I think Screencasts .. coz that's what they are
[11:53] <daker> kim0, ok
[11:53] <popey> \o/ excellent
[11:54] <duanedesign> <.< >.>
[12:04] <daker> kim0, want pictures ? http://imgur.com/OfD0P.png
[12:04] <daker> kim0, http://imgur.com/Np2Od.png
[12:04] <kim0> :)
[12:04] <kim0> daker: hmm looks yummy :)
[12:04] <kim0> daker: Awesome work man
[12:05] <kim0> daker: that's pure django right
[12:05] <daker> pure pure
[13:03] <dholbach> duanedesign, you rock!
[13:03] <czajkowski> dholbach: whenn is your next video cast?
[13:03] <dholbach> next week
[13:04] <czajkowski> cool
[13:04] <nhandler> Gah, looks like we'll probably have another flop and have to cancel that LoCo Day. Too bad :(
[13:06] <duanedesign> dholbach: uh oh, what did i do? :)
[13:06] <czajkowski> nhandler: sorry dude
[13:06] <dholbach> duanedesign, you offered to do a screencast about signing the CoC
[13:07] <dholbach> and more generally: you rock :)
[13:07] <czajkowski> duanedesign: oh nice idea
[13:10] <duanedesign> yeah. Someone with an accesebility issue had a real tough time yesterday signing the CoC
[13:11] <duanedesign> i think the screencst would help with some of those issues.
[13:17] <czajkowski> duanedesign: when you get that done can you give me a shout please
[13:19] <duanedesign> czajkowski: absolutely
[13:25] <czajkowski> duanedesign: thank you
[13:27] <dholbach> kim0, ubuntucloud has 1313 tweets?
[13:27] <dholbach> holy cow
[13:37] <dinda>  /join #quickly
[13:37]  * dinda hates it when I make public mistakes, argh
[13:37]  * dholbach hugs dinda
[13:39]  * czajkowski hugs dinda 
[13:40] <czajkowski> dinda: if that';s the worst mistake you make, trust me you're fine!
[13:40] <czajkowski> could be a lot worse!
[13:40] <dinda> thanks czajkowski - I haven't had my first sip of coffee yet, that's my excuse
[13:41] <dinda> there should be a rule against IRC-ing b4 proper caffeine
[13:41] <JanC> it's worse if you do that with commands that include passwords  ;)
[13:41] <Pici> Hrm.  Looks like the rss link on planet.ubuntu.com is typoed.  Should I file a bug in ubuntu-website, or is there a better place to mention it?
[13:42] <dinda> Pici: file a bug so it can be tracked easily
[13:43] <duanedesign> popey: ping
[13:45] <popey> duanedesign: pong
[13:46] <duanedesign> good day popey. I was working on upgrading the screencast site and i had a couple questions i wanted to see if you cpou;d help with?
[13:51] <jussi> you know something funny :D "Nätti" in Finnish means "pretty" ... so you could almost say that natty should be pretty :)
[13:55] <kim0> dholbach: how do I see that
[13:56] <dholbach> kim0, twitter.com/ubuntucloud
[13:56] <kim0> dholbach: is 1313 good or bad :)
[13:57] <kim0> bad omen squared :)
[13:57] <dholbach> much, not good or bad :)
[13:57] <kim0> hehe, that account existed before me btw
[13:59] <dholbach> still you're tweeting like a madman :)
[15:03] <paultag> jussi, hiyya :)
[15:03] <jussi> o/
[15:03] <paultag> jussi, you're looking quite Natti today
[15:03] <jussi> lol
[15:47] <jono> hey all
[15:48] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:49] <jono> hey dholbach
[15:49] <kim0> howdy o/
[15:50] <jcastro> 10 minutes?
[15:54] <dholbach> jcastro, yep, and I think we should all boycott skype this time (hello Jono!) :-P
[15:54] <kim0> but feeling dirty is good sometimes
[15:55] <dholbach> what is this channel coming down to...?
[15:55] <kim0> hehe
[16:01] <dholbach> dpm, jono, kim0, jcastro: ready? :)
[16:01] <jcastro> I am ready!
[16:01] <kim0> ready
[16:01] <jcastro> I am always ready!
[16:01] <dpm> \o/
[16:01] <jono> one sec, seeing if I can make mumble work better
[16:02] <jono> lol, won't even run now and crashes mutter
[16:02] <jono> sorry dholbach
[16:02] <jono> skype it is
[16:02] <jcastro> heh
[16:02] <jono> kim0, jcastro, dholbach, dpm let's roll
[16:04] <jcastro> can you guys hear me?
[16:04] <jcastro> one sec
[16:04] <dholbach> jcastro, muted your mic?
[16:05] <jcastro> one sec
[16:09] <czajkowski> robbiew is a brilliant chair of meetings, like his idea of a lightning round. people give what seems to be a one liner on what they've done
[16:28] <dholbach> alright my friends - I'm calling it a day
[16:28] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day
[16:28] <dholbach> and I'll walk back home through the biting cold - see you!
[16:29] <czajkowski> dholbach: toodles
[16:30] <paultag> So, I'm thinking of doing a new blog series where I debunk Ubuntu myths
[16:30] <paultag> anyone have some popular misconceptions?
[16:31] <dholbach> "Is it true that Jono and Jorge have been arguing about which Metallica album has been the best for 3 hours?"
[16:31] <czajkowski> you';re not grumpy at all
[16:31] <czajkowski> :p
[16:31] <dholbach> ... oh wait
[16:31] <paultag> dholbach, :)
[16:32] <dholbach> see you :)
[16:32] <paultag> dholbach, Tscuss :)
[16:32]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:34] <jono> paultag, sounds like a great series :)
[16:35] <paultag> jono, I stopped going to reddit because they had this twisted view of what was going on. I'll let you know if any of the posts turn out worthwhile :)
[16:35] <paultag> I'm just asking fluxboxers why they hate Ubuntu, I'll get a few pages of dirt to go through
[16:39] <jono> thanks paultag
[16:39] <jono> a few myths could include:
[16:40] <jono>  * Ubuntu has ditched GNOME
[16:40] <jono>  * You have to be a programmer to participate in Ubuntu
[16:40] <paultag> jono, great, thanks :)
[16:40] <jono>  * The Ubuntu/Debian relationship is tense
[16:41] <paultag> jono, I have Ubuntu / Canonical in there right now as well ( @ubuntu == @canonical )
[16:41] <paultag> jono, as well as "n00buntu"
[16:41] <jono> cool
[16:42] <paultag> jono, if you have anything you'd like me to include ( already added the 3 above ), let me know
[16:42] <jono> thanks, pal! :)
[16:42] <jono> paultag, and keep up the great work, you are rocking :-)
[16:43] <paultag> jono, cheers, thanks :)
[16:43] <czajkowski> paultag: you shown jono locolint?
[16:43] <JanC> paultag: popular myth: "Ubuntu is only for noobs and not for serious linux users"  ;)
[16:43] <paultag> czajkowski, nope. It's still a bit buggy :)
[16:43] <paultag> JanC, Yes! :)
[16:44] <jono> JanC, oooh good one
[16:45] <jcastro> paultag: I love myths!
[16:46] <paultag> jcastro, I could so photoshop you as adam and jono as jamie
[16:46] <jcastro> hah
[16:46] <czajkowski> paultag: aww you should
[16:46] <czajkowski> :)
[16:46] <jono> paultag, haha
[16:46] <jono> would be awesome
[16:46] <jono> and disturbing
[16:46] <jcastro> I heard someone call Unity "lock in" the other day because other distros don't have it
[16:46] <jono> which is always the best
[16:47] <jono> man, this wikileaks shit is bonkers
[16:47] <paultag> jcastro, rock on, good to review f/oss every once in a while
[16:51] <nisshh> oh man, the weather here is at that screwed up point right before summer, where the days are 35C or more and the nights a darn cold :|
[16:52] <nisshh> are*
[16:53] <JanC> jcastro: I don't know about public Unity releases, but in some cases we could do better with making stuff available to other distros though (I'm thinking about the murrine window decoration engine for example, which wasn't properly released for a long time, and Ubuntu used an VCS checkout)
[16:54] <jcastro> all the ayatana bits come out as tarballs
[16:54] <nisshh> jono, you dont strike me as someone who would read wikileaks :)
[16:54] <jcastro> the murrine thing, poke Cimi I guess to do it right?
[16:55] <JanC> jcastro: there was a release not long ago, but it was a long time before that, and lots of peopel complained about the "secret changes" needed to use themes designed on/for ubuntu in other distros
[16:57] <jcastro> hmm
[16:57] <nisshh> paultag, oh, i have one "you need to know how to use the terminal in order to use Ubuntu"
[16:58] <daker> kim0, http://i.imgur.com/UgxxL.png
[16:58] <paultag> nisshh, mmmhum! cheers!
[16:58] <jono> nisshh, I don't read wikileaks, just facinated by the story
[16:58] <jono> and now interpol have an arrest warrent out for assange
[16:58] <nisshh> jono, ah, ok
[16:58] <duanedesign> jono: oh yeah i just heard that
[16:58] <nisshh> paultag, although that one is more of a generic linux myth i guess :)
[16:59] <paultag> nisshh, :)
[17:05] <JanC> it's still a good one to debunk
[17:12] <duanedesign> yeah i am suprised at how many people I hear say that. 'Oh Linux has a GUI now?'
[17:12] <Technoviking> jono: belated pong
[17:13] <jono> Technoviking, ahhh I am good, unping
[17:13] <jono> :)
[17:13] <jono> jcastro, try unity.ubuntu.com now
[17:13] <jono> you should have full access
[17:13] <Technoviking> sorry was in Oracle hell the last week days
[17:14] <Technoviking> s/week/few
[17:22] <jcastro> jono: ALRIGHT!
[17:22] <jcastro> I am in!
[17:28] <vish> JanC: there are no secret changes for themes, if someone knows how to write a theme they can just check out the xml and figure it out.. only when they dont know they spread such rumours just because the theme dint work in their application ;)
[17:29] <vish> JanC: if they are starting to learn to write themes, then murrine is bad :)
[17:29] <JanC> vish: no, the themes didn't work with the last reelased version of murrine
[17:30] <JanC> only with the version packaged in Ubuntu or when you compiled it yourself from git
[17:30] <JanC> there was a release of murrine in late September though
[17:30] <vish> JanC: yea, changes were made and the new options are mentioned in the light-themes..  where murrine is bad is, its poorly documented.. but thats the way it has always been, :)
[17:30] <vish> Cimi was lazy even before he worked for Canonical ;p
[17:30] <JanC> so it's not an issue anymore
[17:31] <JanC> lol
[17:31] <JanC> well, he should release at least once every 6 months
[17:32] <jono> jcastro, :)
[17:32] <vish> JanC: if someone is having trouble with murrine , ask them to have a look at : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Murrine  … its not complete, but folks are trying to fill it there..
[17:37] <jcastro> jono: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/673257
[17:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 673257 in unity (Ubuntu) "Please consider renaming the Unity desktop to avoid naming conflict with Unity Linux (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Low,Triaged]
[17:37] <jcastro> jono: I found a spot on the about page to put that link
[17:37] <jcastro> what do you recommend as text?
[17:38] <jcastro> something like "this is about unity the desktop, for information about Unity Linux go here"
[17:38] <jcastro> but something that sounds better
[17:40] <vish> i wonder who came up with the name 'Unity'  ;)
[17:43] <vish> that bug is odd!! bug was filed on 2010-11-10  but the first comment is on 2010-11-09 !!!
[17:43] <Pici> Its one of the connecting modules on the ISS.
[17:45] <vish> Pici: nah, was wondering who named ours as 'Unity'
[17:53] <jcastro> cjohnston: thanks for all the unity bug reports, they were very useful
[17:53] <jcastro> I've now fixed them all except one
[18:34] <jcastro> sense: ok so they started filing bitesize unity bugs
[18:34] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize
[18:34] <sense> jcastro: Good!
[18:35] <jcastro> if you want to do one as an example that would be <3
[18:35] <sense> jcastro: I would love to, but until next week I am not available at all.
[18:35] <jcastro> no rush
[18:35] <sense> ok :)
[18:35] <jcastro> I suspect this list won't be too awesome for another week
[18:35] <sense> yeah, it needs to grow a bit
[18:35] <sense> I'll keep an eye on it.
[18:35] <sense> jcastro: We weren't accepting paper cuts for Unity, right?
[18:35] <sense> Or are we?
[18:36] <jcastro> I am not sure, I assume so?
[18:36] <sense> I was wondering how much of this can be added to the One Hundred Paper Cuts project.
[18:36] <jcastro> well, papercuts are bitesize
[18:36] <sense> Unity wasn't our main focus, but we don't have a policy of rejecting Unity-related cuts.
[18:36] <jcastro> so yeah, why not?
[18:37] <sense> Might be a nice way to inflate our paper cut statistics! :P
[18:37] <sense> I'll see how much of those bugs will qualify as a paper cut.
[18:38] <sense> jcastro: When will quicklists come back to Unity?
[18:38] <sense> I think I might give adding quicklists to Transmission a try. Would be a nice showcase.
[18:38] <jcastro> sense: do an update. :)
[18:38] <jcastro> the tomboy ones are working for me
[18:39] <sense> Gwibber is not.
[18:39] <jcastro> sense: you don't need to add them to transmission, the menu from the appindicator just becomes the quicklist
[18:39] <sense> Tomboy is working.
[18:40] <sense> jcastro: Then I can take a look at the menu to see if it is looking fine, and maybe extend it a bit.
[20:06] <sense> Gotiens: http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/Meetings/Meeting20101210 Ik heb vier punten toegevoegd aan de agenda.
[20:06] <sense> whoops
[20:06] <sense> nvm
[21:59] <czajkowski> jono: ready when you are
[21:59] <jono> czajkowski, wrapping a call
[21:59] <czajkowski> lovely jubbly
[21:59] <czajkowski> just buzz when ready my dear
[21:59] <jono> will do :)
[22:00] <JFo> bzzzzzzzzz
[22:00] <JFo> oh sorry
[22:00] <JFo> he wasn't ready
[22:01] <JFo> :)
[22:01] <czajkowski> JFo: ello, you all better?
[22:01] <JFo> yes and no
[22:01] <JFo> it seems I am getting a cold now
[22:02] <JFo> but much much better than I was
[22:02] <czajkowski> I read that as getting old
[22:02] <czajkowski> but getting a cold is far worse
[22:02] <czajkowski> :)
[22:02] <JFo> and the cold is due to my heat being broken
[22:02] <JFo> hah
[22:02] <JFo> that too
[22:02] <JFo> :)
[22:02] <czajkowski> whats up with the heating...
[22:03] <czajkowski> I could hug Charlie from IS, he makes things sooo flipping simple!
[22:03] <JFo> fan motor decided it didn't need those bearings after all
[22:03] <JFo> very old system
[22:03] <JFo> so the part has to be ordered
[22:03] <JFo> and once it gets here I'll be all set
[22:03] <JFo> this house is well insulated
[22:04] <jcastro> fan for what?
[22:04] <JFo> it was freezing in here yesterday and it was steaming outside
[22:04] <JFo> jcastro, fan for my heater
[22:04] <jcastro> ouch
[22:04] <JFo> yeah
[22:05] <JFo> I was worried at the sound it was making
[22:05] <JFo> it is a gas system after all
[22:05] <jcastro> ah
[22:05] <jcastro> . o O (Glad I rent )
[22:05] <JFo> so do I :-D
[22:05] <JFo> oh landlord!
[22:06] <JFo> but I have put that on my list of items to consider when considering the purchase of this house
[22:07] <maco> well now itll be fixed *before* you buy :D
[22:07] <JFo> the fan will, but the old system will still be there :-/
[22:07] <JFo> so that would be about $2K to replace if I buy
[22:08] <jcastro> I am getting antsy and want a house
[22:08] <JFo> on an unrelated note... have I mentioned lately how much I looooove cron?
[22:08] <jcastro> so I can do cool projects
[22:08] <JFo> heh
[22:08] <JFo> you will et over that jcastro :)
[22:08] <JFo> get*
[22:09] <JFo> I remember when I used to want to do cool projects on my house
[22:09] <jcastro> heh
[22:09] <JFo> :)
[22:09] <JFo> j/k
[22:09] <JFo> I miss owning my home
[22:09] <JFo> almost said "owning my hope" made me lol
[22:10] <jcastro> heh
[22:10] <jcastro> Like for example, I got a boxee, and like, this place has no ethernet wiring
[22:10] <jcastro> if I had my own place I could have rocking drops in every room, etc.
[22:10] <JFo> yeah, I really was looking forward to rewiring my house for network
[22:11] <JFo> my friend has the best setup
[22:11] <JFo> he bought a huge roll of this bundled wire
[22:11] <JFo> has 4 ethernet 2 phone and 2 fiber
[22:11] <JFo> in a big wire
[22:11] <jcastro> ah, they call that something
[22:11] <JFo> he did drops to all his rooms, even the bathrooms
[22:12] <jcastro> ah dude
[22:12] <jcastro> siamese cable
[22:13] <jcastro> I was looking at that
[22:13] <JFo> oh, tv coax was the other
[22:13] <jcastro> http://www.broadbandutopia.com/lede2x2xteco.html
[22:13] <jcastro> yep
[22:13] <jcastro> 4 drops, but that's one honking cable
[22:13] <JFo> yea, his was huge
[22:13] <vish> yay fun times in -testing :D
[22:13] <JFo> luckily he put the stuff in while they were building his house
[23:22] <jcastro> hey paultag
[23:22] <jcastro> myth #3: Ohio is a great place to live
[23:22] <paultag> yo j
[23:22] <paultag> erm, jcastro
[23:22] <paultag> jcastro, OSU Michigan what?
[23:23] <jcastro> dude I went to MSU, we won this weekend
[23:23] <jcastro> normally I cheer for OSU during that game, but I needed UM to show up if we had any chance at a Rose Bowl
[23:23] <paultag> ha!
[23:23] <jcastro> and as always U-M didn't fail to deliver failure.
[23:24] <paultag> jcastro, as usual, in the "great" "state" of Michigan
[23:25] <paultag> jcastro, dude, zach@debian commented on my blog
[23:25] <paultag> jcastro, that was pretty awesome
[23:31] <paultag> jcastro, I did the first post in the myths series ( and just wrote up #2 ) -- http://twitter.com/#!/paultag/status/10113531747762176
[23:34] <jcastro> I saw
[23:34] <jcastro> good job
[23:43] <paultag> I feel like it came off a bit anti-canonical
[23:43] <paultag> which I did not intend
[23:47] <pleia2> paultag: fwiw, it didn't sound anti-canonical to me
[23:47] <paultag> pleia2, thanks :)
[23:47] <paultag> pleia2, How are you?
[23:52] <pleia2> I have a cold :(
[23:52] <paultag> shucks, bbl. work time
[23:52] <paultag> pleia2, oh no :(
[23:52] <pleia2> later
[23:52] <paultag> pleia2, get better!
[23:52] <pleia2> thanks :)
[23:52] <paultag> pleia2, be back in 3 hours or so