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| DanielRM | Anyone awake? | 02:50 |
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| dutchie | technically, yes | 02:51 |
| sam_010203 | hello... | 02:53 |
| DanielRM | Any experience with VPNs? | 02:53 |
| dutchie | old forgotten experience | 02:53 |
| DanielRM | Friend's trying to get a recommendation for a UK-based one. | 02:53 |
| DanielRM | His sister's moving to France and wants iPlayer access. | 02:53 |
| shauno | not familiar with any hosted options myself. I just made sure to get a UK-based vps | 02:59 |
| DanielRM | Fair enough. | 03:00 |
| Azelphur | yea, bitfolk do good VPS's :p | 03:03 |
| Azelphur | or you can get one off Daviey but paying him is fun :D | 03:03 |
| shauno | bitfolk would be my recommendation for that route too | 03:04 |
| Azelphur | plus you can do other stuff besides VPN with it, like a bouncer or small website. | 03:04 |
| shauno | well proud of myself. 3am and I managed to write route instead of router :) | 03:06 |
| dutchie | pah, it's early | 03:06 |
| shauno | watching top gear: apocalypse. and now I wish I owned a car. | 03:31 |
| shauno | (well, on paper I do. but I'd really like one that's on the same continent as me) | 03:32 |
| === emma is now known as em | ||
| screen-x | morning :) | 06:42 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 07:23 |
| MichealH | Hey :) | 07:25 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 07:26 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 07:26 |
| daubers | Morning | 07:55 |
| daubers | Anyone know a good solicitor | 07:56 |
| daubers | ? | 07:56 |
| MooDoo | daubers, no i don't but here's the obligatory, everything ok? | 07:56 |
| daubers | MooDoo: Estate agent sent someone in to paint a few patches of wall yesterday, they didn't use any covers so have damaged a few things | 07:57 |
| MooDoo | daubers, ah :( | 07:57 |
| daubers | One of which can't be replaced | 07:57 |
| daubers | According to a friend who's a barrister I can do them for negligence if they refuse to repair what they've damaged | 07:58 |
| MooDoo | well fingers crosed then | 08:00 |
| daubers | Yep, just have to try and not get too shouty at the estate agents when i can ring them | 08:01 |
| daubers | At least this ig doo news (for me anyway) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11879051 | 08:02 |
| MooDoo | yay o/ | 08:04 |
| screen-x | daubers: :( | 08:05 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Morning peeps! | 08:05 |
| screen-x | morning TheOpenSourcerer | 08:05 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:14 |
| screen-x | mmmm warm tea in cold hands | 08:27 |
| MooDoo | lovely | 08:27 |
| screen-x | and jet on last.fm :) | 08:28 |
| daubers | "jet"? | 08:30 |
| screen-x | daubers: http://www.last.fm/music/Jet | 08:31 |
| DanielRM | Morning. | 08:35 |
| daubers | screen-x: I see | 08:36 |
| * daubers puts on the soundtrack to "The Muppets Christmas Carol" | 08:36 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Gosh: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/24/armys-revolutionary-rifle-use-afghanistan/ | 08:36 |
| daubers | TheOpenSourcerer: That's been in the works for a little while. They've also got a sniper rifle coming out soon that can help take in account things like drift over ranges of greater than 3000ft | 08:38 |
| daubers | TheOpenSourcerer: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/26/futuristic_guns_feature/ | 08:39 |
| === SuperHark is now known as MichealH | ||
| bigcalm | Ahoy hoy! | 08:52 |
| MooDoo | hullo | 08:52 |
| nperry | Morning all :) | 09:06 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Here's a quick Q... Is there an easy way to reset an Ubuntu [server in this instance] back to a "default/as first installed" state? | 09:10 |
| MartijnVdS | Don't you really want preseeded installs? :) | 09:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Probably... What's that then? | 09:11 |
| daubers | TheOpenSourcerer: Take an image after you've installed it (first time) and then just restore the image? | 09:12 |
| daubers | (dd is your friend) | 09:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | daubers: That is a good idea if I have a time machine ;-) | 09:12 |
| nperry | I've got one. | 09:12 |
| MartijnVdS | partimage is more of your friend | 09:13 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: preseeded installs = automatic (usually network) install with a script to answer all questions that come up | 09:13 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: for automated installs | 09:13 |
| daubers | TheOpenSourcerer: that's what I do at work all the time :) | 09:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Ahh - I see. | 09:13 |
| MartijnVdS | https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/hppa/preseed-contents.html | 09:14 |
| daubers | Right, ultimatum given to estate agents, they have 45 minutes left to get back to me | 09:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Thanks, I think I will use daubers' suggestion and just go and build a nice new clean VM then clone it before I break it again. | 09:14 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: that help.ubuntu.com link might be useful as well :) | 09:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Am reading it now MartijnVdS | 09:15 |
| nperry | daubers: Did they give you notice about coming in to paint? | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | it's too cold to paint anyway L( | 09:18 |
| MartijnVdS | :) | 09:18 |
| nperry | its to cold to function :./ | 09:19 |
| nperry | caffeine hasn't kicked in yet. | 09:19 |
| screen-x | TheOpenSourcerer: pre-seed would prob take longer, but is really handy once you have it set up. | 09:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yes, it would be useful once a preseed file is built. I can see that. | 09:20 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/19/ubuntu-tricks-how-to-generate-a-list-of-installed-packages-and-use-it-to-reinstall-packages/ | 09:22 |
| gord | heh, i have to put in my password four times on boot now | 09:22 |
| Ng | that is three times too many! | 09:24 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: crypted partitions? | 09:24 |
| gord | Ng, this is with auto-login too ;) | 09:24 |
| gord | MartijnVdS, yeah, one of them | 09:25 |
| === JamesTait_Zzzzz is now known as JamesTait | ||
| Ng | gord: other than crypto, what else?! | 09:28 |
| gord | i think its gwibber/empathy. the fourth one is new though | 09:29 |
| screen-x | gord: gnome keyring? | 09:33 |
| gord | screen-x, well gwibber/empathy are gnome keyring based | 09:34 |
| popey | morning all | 09:34 |
| screen-x | morning popey | 09:34 |
| screen-x | gord: so you shouldn't need to enter a password for either.. | 09:35 |
| * daubers waits for the estate agent to ring back again | 09:44 | |
| wintellect | daubers: buying? selling? both? | 09:52 |
| kazade | morning all | 09:52 |
| nperry | daubers: I don't think they'll do anything, if they gave you notice of them coming in... | 09:52 |
| kazade | I actually have an Ubuntu related question! \o/ | 09:52 |
| kazade | Does anyone know how to install the correct nvidia binary driver without using Jockey? (jockey-gtk and jockey-text are borked on my Natty install) | 09:53 |
| kazade | It's running nouveau atm | 09:53 |
| daubers | nperry: They didn't. They've also failed in their care of duty to the occupants belongings, which makes them negligent | 09:53 |
| nperry | sudo apt-get install nvidia-current | 09:53 |
| kazade | nperry, I tried that.. but it didn't work :( | 09:53 |
| daubers | wintellect: Screaming | 09:53 |
| nperry | daubers: Thats the first thing, Your contract should say they have to give you 24hrs notice to access the flat/house | 09:54 |
| nperry | kazade: What does it say | 09:54 |
| daubers | nperry: Yup. They've also done this before and I've told them if it happens again I won't complain, I'll call the police for having someone entering the flat without my permission | 09:55 |
| kazade | nperry, it installs, but when I reboot I get nouveau, if I remove nouveau I get no X | 09:56 |
| kazade | nperry, I think I'm supposed to run nvidia-xconfig to setup xorg.conf, but nvidia-xconfig doesn't exist and I can't find it anywhere | 09:56 |
| nperry | kazade: Odd thats what you are meant to run.. | 09:57 |
| nperry | Have you tried running gksudo nvidia-settigns | 09:58 |
| kazade | yeah, it tells me to run nvidia-xconfig | 09:58 |
| nperry | Thats what I though would happen | 09:59 |
| nperry | !nvidia > nperry | 10:00 |
| lubotu3 | nperry, please see my private message | 10:00 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 10:02 |
| nperry | kazade: are you ruinng nvidia-xonconfig under sudo? | 10:03 |
| nperry | Hello czajkowski | 10:03 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, hello :) hope you're well | 10:03 |
| kazade | nperry, I found nvidia-xconfig but it's not on the path | 10:10 |
| kazade | it's in something like /usr/lib/nvidia-current/bin | 10:11 |
| czajkowski | all good thanks | 10:11 |
| * popey tickles kazade | 10:13 | |
| daubers | woot | 10:30 |
| * daubers wins | 10:30 | |
| daubers | Just need repair quotes | 10:30 |
| screen-x | :D | 10:30 |
| MartijnVdS | "repair quotes" | 10:30 |
| screen-x | daubers: without needing legal people? | 10:31 |
| daubers | screen-x: Yup | 10:32 |
| screen-x | daubers: double win :) | 10:32 |
| daubers | screen-x: Shout enough people give you what you want so you just go away | 10:32 |
| daubers | Also got them to agree that if someone does come into the flat without any notice again, I shouldn't be phoning them, I should go straight to the police and press charges | 10:33 |
| screen-x | daubers: should get it into the contract that they have to ask before sending contractors round | 10:33 |
| daubers | screen-x: It is | 10:34 |
| screen-x | so you have breach of contract already.. | 10:34 |
| kazade | I'm fairly sure it's law, not just contractual. .. | 10:34 |
| daubers | screen-x: Yup, thats why I didn't need legal people | 10:35 |
| nperry | kazade: Your right it is law. When I had a water leak in my old flat, I had to sign a wavier as they hadn't given me the notice to come into the flat | 10:36 |
| * kazade throws his laptop out of the window. ARRRRGHH | 10:37 | |
| kazade | So I finally got the sodding nvidia drivers to kick in, and I can't get past plymouth! | 10:37 |
| kazade | It just freezes up, and I can't switch VT | 10:37 |
| kazade | only ctrl+alt+del | 10:37 |
| directhex | nvidia drivers don't work with plymouth | 10:42 |
| directhex | bootsplash on maverick with nvidia is text-based | 10:42 |
| kazade | well, ok, it gives me that big horrible ubuntu logo instead of the high res one | 10:47 |
| popey | that is normal | 10:47 |
| popey | for nvidia | 10:47 |
| kazade | popey, I know, but it doesn't get past that | 10:47 |
| kazade | ever | 10:47 |
| kazade | sigh, gonna just stuck with nouveau | 10:48 |
| popey | odd | 10:48 |
| kazade | popey, this is natty | 10:48 |
| popey | oh | 10:49 |
| popey | ignore me then | 10:49 |
| kazade | I just fancied testing the new unity | 10:49 |
| kazade | coz it crashes badly on nouveau | 10:49 |
| popey | which reminds me, i downloaded the Ubuntu Light ISO last night | 10:49 |
| * kazade wonders why in the world Ubuntu still doesn't have a simple way of booting vesa mode | 10:50 | |
| * MartijnVdS wonders why in the world people want vesa mode | 10:50 | |
| popey | http://popey.com/~alan/light/ is the contents of the Ubuntu light iso | 10:51 |
| kazade | MartijnVdS, for when your graphics drivers mess up? | 10:51 |
| MartijnVdS | kazade: hasn't happened to me in a long time.. and if X screws up you get an "X failed to start" vesa mode X | 10:51 |
| MartijnVdS | which lets you repair your X config, etc. | 10:51 |
| kazade | not if your nvidia drivers crash your system ;) | 10:51 |
| MartijnVdS | nvidia, there's your problem | 10:52 |
| kazade | of course, but it would far nicer if Ubuntu gave you a way out | 10:52 |
| kazade | Windows does... | 10:52 |
| kazade | that's like when I complained about being stuck at low resolutions when games crash. My #1 response was "fix the game" | 10:53 |
| kazade | obviously, the game is broken, but it's not great if the OS doesn't deal with it | 10:53 |
| nperry | kazade: You can install the 3d nouveau driver from xorg edgers | 10:57 |
| nperry | Not tired it but unity is reported to work like a dream on it | 10:57 |
| nperry | !info unity natty | 10:57 |
| lubotu3 | unity (source: unity): Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 267 kB, installed size 1056 kB | 10:57 |
| kazade | nperry, that's what I'm running :) | 10:58 |
| * kazade is now wondering if that's why the nvidia drivers didn't work | 10:58 | |
| nperry | I installed the nvidia current on my natty install fine last night.. And unity works.. apart from random compiz crashes | 10:59 |
| nperry | But you do get a horrible plymouth boot as nvidia driver is so closed down :( | 10:59 |
| popey | http://popey.com/~alan/light/install/sources.list interesting | 11:06 |
| popey | http://dell-mini.archive.canonical.com/pool/ also interesting | 11:07 |
| popey | http://popey.com/~alan/light/pool/main/d/dell-recovery/ also | 11:09 |
| daubers | popey: Hmm... if you try and open sources.list it starts up the software sources gui | 11:10 |
| daubers | Not noticed that before | 11:10 |
| popey | heh | 11:11 |
| czajkowski | daubers: any luch with the auctioneers? | 11:11 |
| daubers | czajkowski: Auctioneers? | 11:11 |
| czajkowski | was that you this morning re paint | 11:12 |
| daubers | Oh! Estate agents | 11:12 |
| daubers | They're paying to get the damage repaired and have agreed that if anyone (they're contractor or not) enters my flat again without 24 hours notice and me or the missus present, I can skip them and go straight to the police | 11:12 |
| daubers | Just hoping my poor guitar can be repaired now :( | 11:13 |
| czajkowski | :( | 11:13 |
| daubers | shall take it to the repair shops first thing tomorrow and get some quotes | 11:14 |
| daubers | suspect it will be £x00's | 11:14 |
| kaushal | hi | 11:14 |
| kaushal | is there a documentation to setup third party repositories ? | 11:14 |
| popey | you want to create a repository? | 11:15 |
| kaushal | popey: yeah | 11:15 |
| kaushal | popey: I already have a local ubuntu mirror | 11:15 |
| kaushal | in my office | 11:16 |
| directhex | daubers: what happened? | 11:16 |
| popey | http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository kaushal | 11:17 |
| popey | that took 10 seconds with google | 11:17 |
| daubers | directhex: Idiot contractors painting without us knowing and not laying dust sheets | 11:17 |
| daubers | directhex: Gloss paint all over my lovely guitar :( | 11:17 |
| popey | ouch | 11:17 |
| popey | will they pay up? | 11:17 |
| daubers | Yup, if they don't I've already told them I'll take them to court for negligence, at which point they promised to pay up | 11:18 |
| kazade | hmm, anyone know how to run a command from one VT to affect another? (e.g. run compiz --replace from ctrl+alt+f1) | 11:18 |
| kazade | I managed to screw up my desktop while reporting it as a bug :) | 11:19 |
| ali1234 | it's not so simple when you are talking about X11 apps | 11:19 |
| kazade | aha, I used some ingenuity | 11:20 |
| kazade | I'd lost all keyboard input and the menus were covered by a crashed window | 11:20 |
| kazade | so I added an application launcher for the Appearance settings ;) | 11:20 |
| kazade | so then I could access it with the mouse | 11:20 |
| * kazade realizes that njpatel was in here and exactly the guy to talk to.. | 11:23 | |
| daubers | http://twitpic.com/3bv9s9 :( | 11:23 |
| screen-x | daubers: :( | 11:24 |
| popey | daubers: how stupid | 11:30 |
| daubers | popey: I know :( Had to take 2 hours off work in order to ship it around to places tomorrow too | 11:32 |
| andylockran | morning | 11:45 |
| andylockran | guys I have two computers on the LAN.. one is an ubuntu box with all my vpns setup, the other is a windows 7 desktop | 11:45 |
| popey | congratulations andylockran | 11:46 |
| popey | have a sweet | 11:46 |
| screen-x | andylockran: wubi can fix that for you | 11:46 |
| andylockran | what routing config would allow me to route the desktop through the ubuntu machine to get the vpns - should I add the vpns manually to the win 7 machine - telling them the gw is the ubuntu machine - or change the default gw? | 11:46 |
| screen-x | andylockran: add static routes to the windows box | 11:46 |
| MartijnVdS | andylockran: you'd have to tell it to route certain IPs to the ubuntu box | 11:47 |
| popey | _to_ the windows box? | 11:47 |
| popey | you sure? | 11:47 |
| popey | oh, hang on, i misinterpreted "to" | 11:47 |
| MartijnVdS | andylockran: and you'd have to tell the Ubuntu box to accept/route that traffic over the vpn | 11:47 |
| screen-x | popey: heh ambiguous in that context | 11:47 |
| andylockran | yeah, I've got the ubuntu box net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 | 11:49 |
| screen-x | andylockran: you'd also have to advertise your lan to the VPNs, so that vpn clients have a route to your windows box. | 11:51 |
| screen-x | andylockran: unless you use NAT, but that makes kittens sad. | 11:52 |
| andylockran | I've added the route to the windows box, but when doing TRACERT.EXE on it, it still goes to the default gw first | 11:53 |
| andylockran | pants. | 11:53 |
| screen-x | andylockran: your static routes should be preferred, as they are more specific than the default route. | 11:55 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone know how i would install a new version of apc for php | 11:57 |
| dogmatic69 | it says "You are running an older version of APC (3.1.3p1), newer version 3.1.6 is available at http://pecl.php.net/package/APC/3.1.6" | 11:57 |
| dogmatic69 | and this does not seem to have anything newer https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-apc | 11:57 |
| awilkins | Grrr. Dammit, why doesn't the standard libxml library include the fricking schema for XML itself in the catalog | 11:58 |
| screen-x | dogmatic69: do you have to use the newer version? | 11:58 |
| dogmatic69 | i dont *have* to, but i like new stuff | 11:59 |
| screen-x | dogmatic69: create a ppa for it :) | 11:59 |
| andylockran | is setting up ubutu as a router more difficult than I'm thinking it is? | 12:02 |
| andylockran | i.e. - I can't just turn on ip forwarding and point routes at it? | 12:03 |
| popey | no, its easy | 12:04 |
| popey | i had a viglen as my router for some time | 12:04 |
| popey | running ubuntu | 12:04 |
| andylockran | wonder where I'm falling down then.. | 12:04 |
| andylockran | got the local-LAN interface as 192.168.1.125, and the vpn endpoint as 192.168.8.14 | 12:05 |
| andylockran | vpn server is 192.168.8.1 that provides the route to 10.10.10.0/24 | 12:06 |
| andylockran | routes on the win7 client are "route ADD 192.168.8.0/24 192.168.1.125, and 'route ADD 10.10.10.0/24 192.168.8.1' | 12:07 |
| dogmatic69 | screen-x: i only found out yesterday what a ppa is, no clue how to make one | 12:07 |
| daubers | How weird | 12:24 |
| daubers | You can now buy customised M&Ms | 12:24 |
| AlanBell | !ppa | 12:24 |
| lubotu3 | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk. | 12:24 |
| dogmatic69 | so the ppa's could have doggy code in them? | 12:27 |
| daubers | !woof | 12:30 |
| dogmatic69 | *dodgy | 12:31 |
| AlanBell | yes, they could | 12:31 |
| dogmatic69 | but ones from 'official' things should be fine? | 12:32 |
| AlanBell | they tend not to have anything intentionally malicious | 12:32 |
| dogmatic69 | cool | 12:32 |
| AlanBell | but there is nothing stopping someone putting something really bad in one | 12:32 |
| dogmatic69 | ubuntu removes ones that people moan about i guess | 12:32 |
| AlanBell | more likely you will find stuff that accidentally breaks things | 12:33 |
| dogmatic69 | ok | 12:33 |
| AlanBell | think of launchpad ppas as like little projects on sourceforge | 12:33 |
| Ng | daubers: customised how? can you have them printed with different letters? ;) | 12:37 |
| daubers | Ng: http://www.mymms.co.uk/ | 12:45 |
| Ng | heh | 12:46 |
| daubers | shame it's letters only, or I'd get some done with the circle of friends on for the christmas do | 12:46 |
| daubers | Oooooh.... | 12:57 |
| * daubers just accepted a delivery for a big box of customised USB sticks in swanky magnetically closing plastic boxes | 12:58 | |
| dogmatic69 | nice | 12:58 |
| czajkowski | does anyone need Ubuntu stickers | 12:59 |
| daubers | o/ | 12:59 |
| czajkowski | I also have a stash of Open stack ones as well | 12:59 |
| daubers | hang on, define "need" | 12:59 |
| czajkowski | need/want | 13:00 |
| daubers | oh, then o/ | 13:00 |
| czajkowski | daubers: pm addrss will post you some | 13:00 |
| daubers | \o/ | 13:01 |
| === moose is now known as Guest63759 | ||
| === SuperHark is now known as Michealh | ||
| === Michealh is now known as MichealH | ||
| samelco | hi ubuntu-uk, I tried to install gparted on 8.10(intrepid) but i am getting 404 not found | 13:07 |
| samelco | albeit in a vbox, my intention is to change the boot flag of a fat32 partion on a usb HD so i can install 10.04 from it | 13:09 |
| samelco | but cant see the usb drive anyhoo so i failed there | 13:09 |
| === moose_ is now known as mchild | ||
| samelco | i have this other problem, even though i have screensaver off and powermanagement off the screen goes off after 10 minutes | 13:16 |
| daubers | !8.10 | 13:16 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) was the ninth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 30th, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details. | 13:16 |
| daubers | !eol | 13:16 |
| lubotu3 | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 13:16 |
| samelco | !10.04 | 13:20 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 | 13:20 |
| samelco | !10.04 !eol | 13:21 |
| SuperBoy | another bot..? | 13:21 |
| SuperBoy | oh wait, wrong channel D: | 13:21 |
| samelco | !10.04 eol | 13:21 |
| samelco | !eol 10.04 | 13:22 |
| popey | enough | 13:22 |
| popey | 10.04 desktop has 3 years support, server has 5 years | 13:22 |
| popey | work forwards from april 2010 | 13:22 |
| samelco | enough? | 13:22 |
| popey | poking the bot | 13:22 |
| JamesTait | !botabuse | 13:22 |
| lubotu3 | Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". | 13:22 |
| popey | so, whats the exact issue you have right now samelco ? | 13:22 |
| JamesTait | Ah, that must be in the other channel as well. | 13:23 |
| samelco | sorry i did not know | 13:23 |
| samelco | i will go | 13:23 |
| JamesTait | I really need to learn to type quicker so people don't leave before I'm finished. | 13:24 |
| popey | I'd just say "one moment" | 13:25 |
| JamesTait | Or just type shorter sentences. :) | 13:25 |
| JamesTait | Yeah. | 13:25 |
| popey | or that | 13:25 |
| popey | Think less. | 13:25 |
| popey | Type more. | 13:25 |
| popey | no, the other :) | 13:25 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jonathan Riddell] Call for Talks at FOSDEM 2011 - http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4357 | 13:29 |
| gord | just tell them to run the following command, then whilst they are busy, type your reply: echo "ReJigging System.. please wait..."; sleep 60; echo "Done!" | 13:30 |
| * popey rejigs gord | 13:31 | |
| daubers | -bash: !": event not found | 13:31 |
| dutchie | more quoting needed | 13:32 |
| dutchie | stupid bash quoting | 13:32 |
| Laney | hit enter more | 13:38 |
| dutchie | o | 13:39 |
| dutchie | k | 13:39 |
| Ng | hey good people who use the powerline stuff - are they strictly point-to-point? What if you want to join two PCs in different rooms to a router downstairs? | 13:44 |
| MartijnVdS | I've heard the performance is bad | 13:45 |
| MartijnVdS | (50% of advertised speeds) | 13:46 |
| gord | Ng, its not point to point no | 13:46 |
| ali1234 | afaik they work like the old coax ethernet | 13:46 |
| gord | buuuut in my house the speeds suck, 300kbps suck. | 13:46 |
| Ng | gord: interesting | 13:47 |
| gord | had such huge hopes for it too :( thinking that the 200mbit ones prolly give much better speeds seeing as they are incompatible with my 80mbit ones, but they are also lots more expensive | 13:48 |
| Ng | hmm | 13:50 |
| Ng | well I guess I'll get some for my folks and then return them if they suck | 13:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Anyone any idea why ssh terminal sessions to remote systems tend to "lock up" after a period of time whereas a connection to my server on this LAN does not? The remote terms don't disconnect, they just become frozen... | 13:53 |
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: i get that now and then | 14:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | popey: Do you have any idea what causes it? I'm wondering if it's something to do with tcpkeepalive packets and routers filtering them or something? | 14:13 |
| popey | i have no clue | 14:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I have recently chnaged my router, but the same problem occurs. | 14:13 |
| popey | it's often when i CTRL+A,D from screen, but dont disconnect from a server | 14:13 |
| popey | then go to bed | 14:13 |
| popey | I recently changed my router (previously had a linux box) and it only started happening then | 14:14 |
| ali1234 | i recently changed my router and got this | 14:27 |
| ali1234 | changed from a linux based router to some vxworks junk | 14:28 |
| gord | popey, where did yo uget the vendetta thing from? | 14:29 |
| popey | gord: a friend of the author | 14:29 |
| gord | huh, not in my software centre | 14:29 |
| popey | :( | 14:29 |
| popey | i didnt check hence why I said apparently | 14:29 |
| popey | he did imply that they had trouble getting it in | 14:30 |
| gord | i'm on natty though, maybe its in maverick? | 14:30 |
| popey | ah, yes | 14:30 |
| gord | interesting though regardless | 14:30 |
| popey | ya | 14:30 |
| dutchie | it's in my maverick | 14:31 |
| gord | i would guess a lot of people are anti-it because its not open source... maybe i'm getting old but i just don't care =\ would be nice if there were open source games as fun as closed source ones, but t here aren't so i guess i'll pay for closed source ones | 14:32 |
| daubers | gord: You have to make a point by not buying any and then be thoroughly annoyed when the publishers just ignore you anyway! Viva la revolution!!! | 14:33 |
| nperry | !info gnome3-session natty | 15:45 |
| lubotu3 | gnome3-session (source: gnome-session): The GNOME Session Manager - GNOME 3 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.32.1-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 2 kB, installed size 132 kB | 15:45 |
| diplo | http://cupsizechoir.com/ | 16:08 |
| diplo | Slightly NSFW | 16:09 |
| diplo | :) | 16:09 |
| bigcalm | WTF?! | 16:11 |
| Azelphur | http://ui12.gamespot.com/1515/sendlink_2.jpg :D | 16:11 |
| bigcalm | Azelphur: hah | 16:13 |
| === tobias is now known as Guest50650 | ||
| === Guest50650 is now known as tquinn | ||
| Phineas | i have returned | 16:27 |
| gord | more snowing \o/ | 16:28 |
| * czajkowski stabs gord at being happy at this | 16:29 | |
| czajkowski | hmm | 16:29 |
| Phineas | more snow its bloody hot here | 16:30 |
| Phineas | gord, more snow its bloody hot here | 16:30 |
| * Phineas sips his mint hot cocoa | 16:31 | |
| Laney | more snow? bah! | 16:32 |
| * Laney is on crutches | 16:33 | |
| Phineas | czajkowski, lucky for me no snow but sun sun sun all day | 16:33 |
| * Phineas has a text | 16:36 | |
| Phineas | now that is weird? | 16:36 |
| === nick_ is now known as Guest96013 | ||
| === MichealH is now known as MichealH_ | ||
| === MichealH_ is now known as MichealH | ||
| === Phineas is now known as no_voice_grr | ||
| === no_voice_grr is now known as Phineas | ||
| daubers | Is there a easy way to get the used size of a filesystem without mounting the device or calling fdisk? | 17:02 |
| MartijnVdS | not really | 17:11 |
| popey | cfdisk :) | 17:16 |
| czajkowski | popey: is there an argos in your area, cant seem to get the site to work here atm | 17:17 |
| popey | yes | 17:17 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: libparted 8-) | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | popey: thanks | 17:17 |
| popey | there is one in aldershot town centre | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | ohh | 17:17 |
| popey | not far from your house | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | even handier | 17:17 |
| popey | iirc | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | thanks | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | I found the town centre on Sunday | 17:17 |
| popey | crap isnt it? | 17:18 |
| daubers | bah | 17:18 |
| czajkowski | tis rather small | 17:20 |
| czajkowski | the shopping centre is empty nearly | 17:21 |
| nperry | czajkowski: welcome to england, where town centres have been overtaken by retail parks. | 17:21 |
| nperry | town centres now consit of phone shop, game shops, hairdressers and chairty shops. | 17:22 |
| dogmatic69 | the uk has loads of charity shops | 17:23 |
| dogmatic69 | whats up with that? | 17:23 |
| popey | our retail sector is bombing | 17:24 |
| popey | thus shop front is cheap because there's an abundance of it | 17:24 |
| popey | charities need cheap shop fronts | 17:24 |
| czajkowski | aye same back home | 17:24 |
| jacobw | charity shops need to spread the word about the great clothes they have :) | 17:27 |
| Phineas | jacobw, charity shops are hot spots for video games, saw a good Rayman game in the other day | 17:29 |
| Phineas | popey, charity shops are hosspots for seccond hand games | 17:30 |
| jacobw | spent ages clearing the road outside and now its bloody snowing again :( | 17:32 |
| Phineas | jacobw, lucky for me, bloody hot sun here | 17:33 |
| jacobw | :o | 17:33 |
| dutchie | Phineas: where is here? | 17:34 |
| Phineas | dutchie, Danville (not in the USA), are you dutch? | 17:34 |
| dutchie | no | 17:34 |
| Phineas | any i gotta go bye | 17:35 |
| jacobw | i'm secretly pleased that the gym has shut because of the snow, because i'm knackered from previous visits but i don't want to feel guilty about missing classes | 17:46 |
| jacobw | closure due to snow satisfies all these conditions :) | 17:46 |
| dogmatic69 | lol | 17:50 |
| * MartijnVdS ROFLs at http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2506-iPhone-Games | 17:57 | |
| dogmatic69 | lol | 18:03 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone know if its possible to make a script / alias to open up a terminal with say 5 tabs and run commands in each tab? | 18:06 |
| MartijnVdS | I'd use screen instead of a terminal with tabs | 18:08 |
| MartijnVdS | then it's easy | 18:08 |
| danfish | or even better IMO - byobu | 18:20 |
| daubers | byobu \o/ | 18:25 |
| daubers | Also, evening | 18:25 |
| cps | Evening peeps :) | 18:28 |
| will_ | evening | 18:28 |
| danfish | lo daubers et al | 18:42 |
| === MichealH is now known as Guest27431 | ||
| Curly_Q | Is anyone here familiar with Aptosid Linux distro? Any comments? | 18:48 |
| === Guest27431 is now known as MichealH | ||
| Curly_Q | Aptosid seems to cover lots of bases with drivers for lots of hardware. | 18:50 |
| Curly_Q | The URL for Aptosid is: http://www.aptosid.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=396 | 18:53 |
| nperry | But we are a group of people that like/use ubuntu. | 18:54 |
| Curly_Q | That's OK. I use Kubuntu myself. | 18:54 |
| Curly_Q | I use many Operating Systems. | 18:55 |
| Curly_Q | I am not prejudiced. | 18:55 |
| nperry | No and nor am I. | 18:55 |
| nperry | Anyway my tea is burning.. | 18:55 |
| Curly_Q | Green tea? | 18:56 |
| Curly_Q | Green tea is high in anti-oxidents. | 18:56 |
| Curly_Q | Good for you and a cancer inhibiter. | 18:56 |
| Curly_Q | http://www.righthealth.com/topic/Green_Tea_Side_Effects?p=l&as=goog&ac=519&kgl=19821599 | 18:59 |
| Curly_Q | Anyway have a nice day folks. | 18:59 |
| DanielRM | :-/ | 19:10 |
| DanielRM | That was quite strange. | 19:10 |
| nperry | Thats what i thought DanielRM :/ | 19:15 |
| X3N | Hmmmmmmmm | 19:22 |
| finelytuned | evening all | 19:44 |
| dogmatic69 | sup | 19:44 |
| jacobw | quick question, how can i find and replace in list a filenames from terminal | 19:45 |
| jacobw | well, find and replace in a directory i suppose | 19:45 |
| finelytuned | jacobw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zx7UE70Ehs | 19:48 |
| finelytuned | theres a short tutorial for terminal commands | 19:49 |
| dwatkins | hi folks, does anyone have an ASUS Eee 901 running a recent linux kernel? I get 'No soundcard found' in my dmesg. | 20:15 |
| nperry | ohhhh unity update seems stable | 20:21 |
| nperry | time to try gnome3 | 20:21 |
| * MartijnVdS pokes natty.. go away stupid "global menu" | 20:22 | |
| oly | nperry, are you compiling gnome3 ? | 20:31 |
| oly | would not mind knowing of a upto date ppa for gnome-shell | 20:31 |
| oly | been trying the ricotz one but i am not convinced its updated | 20:31 |
| oly | as i never get updtates in synaptics and its so god damn slow on this laptop it must have some bugs | 20:32 |
| MartijnVdS | oly: upgrade to natty, it has the newest gnome-shell | 20:32 |
| MartijnVdS | it doesn't work (for me anyway), but it's there | 20:32 |
| oly | ah, wanted to stay on 10.10 for now :p | 20:33 |
| oly | but i know gnome-shell runs along side existing system nicely just was after some debs so i dont have to compile | 20:34 |
| dutchie | i'm fairly sure there is a g-s ppa | 20:36 |
| nperry | oly: Im using one in natty repo.. | 20:48 |
| nperry | MartijnVdS: doesn't work for me either | 20:48 |
| nperry | Just boots into my background | 20:48 |
| MartijnVdS | ah that's a known bug | 20:49 |
| MartijnVdS | see Planet Ubuntu, Jamie Strandboge's post | 20:49 |
| nperry | gnome-shell --replace boots into normal gnome2 though | 20:49 |
| MartijnVdS | about "bug 683686" | 20:49 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 683686 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz segfaults with non-standard Default.ini" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683686 | 20:49 |
| nperry | Lets try that | 20:51 |
| nperry | Be right back | 20:51 |
| dwatkins | I guess no-one has an ASUS Eee 901, then. | 20:57 |
| nperry | Nope didn't work... still went to background, gnome-shell --replace just went to gnome2 | 20:58 |
| oly | wow gnome shell looks much improved over my last look :p | 20:58 |
| oly | looking at some youtube videos from the last month | 20:58 |
| ipopey | Lo | 21:02 |
| nperry | ah evening popey | 21:02 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 21:36 |
| czajkowski | ipopey: ello | 21:36 |
| ipopey | Witches | 21:36 |
| * DJones wonders what czajkowski has said to ipopey for him to say Witches as soon as she speaks | 21:43 | |
| ipopey | Heh | 21:43 |
| ipopey | Stupid spill checker | 21:43 |
| czajkowski | :s | 21:44 |
| shauno | someone's come down with a case of iThumbs :/ | 21:44 |
| * czajkowski makes a mental note, no cake for popey | 21:44 | |
| ipopey | Icake | 21:46 |
| zleap | what is the other port that cups uses one is 631 | 21:47 |
| ipopey | Didn't know it did | 21:51 |
| zleap | i am sure there was another one | 21:51 |
| ipopey | Nmap a box running cups to find out | 21:51 |
| zleap | my own then | 21:51 |
| zleap | can i nmap myself | 21:51 |
| ipopey | Of course | 21:51 |
| mgdm | 1114? | 21:52 |
| mgdm | that's what mine's on | 21:52 |
| mgdm | err, no, wait :P | 21:52 |
| mgdm | that would be word wrap + process ID | 21:52 |
| zleap | i set my firewall up last night so I can ssh in to it from my netbook when thenetbook is using the wireless 3 modem thing | 21:53 |
| zleap | i just wondered if it was then possible to print from that, if I connect to my external ip address, port forward to my printer | 21:53 |
| ipopey | I wouldn't | 21:53 |
| zleap | ok | 21:53 |
| zleap | so if I want to print i should just do it directly, or copy a file with scp then print after ssh'ing in | 21:54 |
| ipopey | Anyone could potentially print to your machine if you publicise he port surely? | 21:54 |
| zleap | ok | 21:54 |
| ipopey | How often do you need to remote print? | 21:54 |
| zleap | i was just wondering if this was possible | 21:54 |
| zleap | what i can do, is ssh in and print that way if i really needed ito | 21:55 |
| zleap | it should be possible to port forward from a random port number say 5555 to 631 on address what ever | 21:55 |
| ipopey | Sure | 21:56 |
| zleap | so that way port 631 is not actually open same was as you may not want to publisize port 22 being open so ssh -p 555 forward to port 22 on the home network | 21:56 |
| ipopey | I still wouldn't :) | 21:56 |
| zleap | ok | 21:56 |
| ipopey | I don't recall ever ever needing to print something at home whilst I am out | 21:57 |
| zleap | ok | 21:57 |
| ipopey | Fact is i can print whilst out and it will queue up on laptop | 21:57 |
| zleap | ok | 21:57 |
| ipopey | Ten will magically spool to print as soon as i get home | 21:57 |
| nperry | ipopey: is it snowing where you are at the moment | 21:57 |
| zleap | cool | 21:57 |
| ipopey | dunno, check the camera :) | 21:57 |
| ipopey | http://popey.com/webcam/ | 21:58 |
| ipopey | Doesn't look like it | 21:58 |
| ipopey | Of course I could get up and look | 21:58 |
| shauno | wow. now that's taking not having windows to an extreme | 21:59 |
| Darael | Nope, no falling snow on the popeycam. | 21:59 |
| nperry | I'll use your camera at work tomorrow morning, as we are delv'ing near you | 21:59 |
| nperry | I'm upset that there is no snowman though | 21:59 |
| ipopey | Blinds are closed in this room | 21:59 |
| ipopey | Too cold to get up | 22:00 |
| UndiFineD | popey, your bot-like :p | 22:00 |
| Darael | popey: s/to get up// | 22:01 |
| nperry | I hate the news, cold chaos.. Have you looked at other countries, say russia which is -20 at the moment.. | 22:04 |
| nperry | Now thats cold but it surely isn't chaos | 22:04 |
| dogmatic69 | i was saying that to someone earlier... places like canada have 100ft of snow and still run like normal | 22:05 |
| dogmatic69 | here there is 2" and new headline "uk spending 1.8b p/d due to cold" | 22:06 |
| nperry | I work with a couple of polish people, every winter all the schools are open and all the airports | 22:06 |
| dogmatic69 | s/spending/loosing | 22:06 |
| shauno | it's completely different places like canada tho | 22:06 |
| dogmatic69 | its not like a surprise or anything either... winter is every year | 22:06 |
| nperry | shauno: but it seems to becoming every winter | 22:06 |
| nperry | A couple of years back sometimes during a winter we never had snow | 22:07 |
| dogmatic69 | true | 22:07 |
| shauno | I lived in michigan for a few years. they had a pretty decent infrastructure in place to deal with snow. they needed to, because it was pretty much constant for 4 months. | 22:07 |
| shauno | it's entirely different to dealing with something that may hit for a couple of days (or may not) | 22:08 |
| nperry | My work is next to local council highway depot, they have used about 50% salt already.. but all the grit lorries are in this evening | 22:08 |
| nperry | And that was at half 8 | 22:08 |
| nperry | shauno: might as well pay, better be safe then sorry | 22:09 |
| shauno | I've a feeling it's physically different too, because they don't grit over there. | 22:09 |
| nperry | Really, moving back to poland. They are gritting roads 24/7 during winter months | 22:10 |
| shauno | where I was in the us/canada, they just plough it and drive on what's left. you end up with a pretty permanent ground layer thru most the winter | 22:11 |
| Pendulum | shauno: we grit in the US | 22:12 |
| Pendulum | at least where I am | 22:12 |
| shauno | well, they didn't in north michigan. which is why I think it's handled differently based on quantities | 22:13 |
| Pendulum | and while it's not one of the msot heavily snowed areas, we usually get a decent amount of snow (certainly enough that we don't shut down most of the time) | 22:13 |
| shauno | then you run into other issues, like people here simply not being comfortable driving on it, and crawling around everywhere making a nuisance of themselves. | 22:15 |
| shauno | not saying it couldn't be handled better here. just that the difference between getting a shock blast, and something constant and predictable, is pretty high | 22:16 |
| * Ng idly wonders if anyone has a samsung internet@tv device | 22:20 | |
| jacobw | i think the british have a strange desire to be disrupted by snow and subconsciously don't prepare for the inevitable snowfall :s | 23:37 |
| Jibadeeha | snow is a good excuse for some to work from home | 23:42 |
| JamesTait | Fun story about "remote printing". | 23:47 |
| JamesTait | Couple of weeks ago I was in Buenos Aires for the Web & Mobile sprint. | 23:47 |
| JamesTait | Friday came and I did the online check-in thing. | 23:48 |
| JamesTait | I asked Martin, whose apartment we were using, if I could print out the boarding passes. | 23:48 |
| JamesTait | "Sure," he says, "the printer's on the network. It's an HP. It's the only one." | 23:48 |
| JamesTait | So I printed to the only printer on the network, which was an HP. | 23:49 |
| JamesTait | I went to his office, nothing on the printer. | 23:49 |
| JamesTait | So we did the usual switch off/on, etc. | 23:49 |
| jpds | http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/London~2643743/hour_by_hour.html | 23:49 |
| JamesTait | I looked at my laptop and there were now two HP printers. | 23:49 |
| jacobw | o/ jpds | 23:50 |
| JamesTait | So I asked him which one, and sure enough it was the new one. | 23:50 |
| jacobw | this happens with Windows and printers JamesTait | 23:50 |
| JamesTait | We laughed, and moved on. | 23:50 |
| jacobw | every time a printer is connected, it is added to list of network printers | 23:50 |
| jacobw | or local printers | 23:50 |
| JamesTait | This Monday, one of the guys who was also on the sprint started work, having taken the week after the sprint as holiday. | 23:51 |
| JamesTait | My boarding passes had spooled on his laptop, and printed on his HP printer when he got home. :) | 23:51 |
| jacobw | ha | 23:52 |
| JamesTait | Create smarter technology, and we'll find a dafter way to break it. :) | 23:53 |
| jacobw | true JamesTait | 23:53 |
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