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ChinnoDog@crickets01:37
PennBothttp://www.instantcrickets.com01:37
ChinnoDogWhat is wrong with this command? sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512k01:45
ChinnoDogI ran that against a usb flash stick, it reports 988 records written and that it ran out of space, but I can unplug the dongle and plug it back in and the partitions and file system is perfectly intact.01:46
ChinnoDogWhy isn't the flash completely empty??01:47
JonathanDmaybe it's broken.01:49
ChinnoDogIts not broken. I've repartitioned it and formatted it and transferred files with it with no problems01:50
JonathanDthen01:51
JonathanDnm01:51
JonathanDI had a flash card you could do stuff to, but when it tried to actually do it it would fail01:51
JonathanDbut if you can partition it, probably not that ;)01:51
ChinnoDogoh crap01:51
ChinnoDogI just figured it out01:51
jedijfChinnoDog: need count=101:52
ChinnoDogoh no, it is much worse01:52
jedijfb is hard drive01:52
jedijfc is flash01:52
jedijfthat sux01:52
ChinnoDogI did it on my hosted server in an ssh session by accident01:52
jedijfsorry, but LOL01:53
ChinnoDogbut, there doesn't seem to be an sdb on my server01:53
jedijfcount =1 will wipe mbr01:53
pleia2oh wow01:53
ChinnoDogok, so what did I do to my server??01:54
jedijfno bs will wife whole puppy - wherever it is01:54
ChinnoDogIt write 518mb of zeros to sdb...01:54
jedijfs/wife/wipe01:54
ChinnoDogs/write/wrote01:54
jedijfwell since your in just mount01:55
jedijfmount01:55
jedijfto see what is/was there maybe01:55
ChinnoDogmount doesn't show anything on /sdb01:55
ChinnoDog/dev/sdb01:55
ChinnoDogthere is no evidence it is mapped to a drive01:55
jedijfprolly not so it just failed01:55
ChinnoDogThat is why I don't understand how I can write 518MB of zeros to a nonexistant drive01:55
jedijfhold on01:55
jedijfsudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb01:57
jedijf[sudo] password for pacs:01:57
jedijf^C1772575+0 records in01:57
jedijf1772575+0 records out01:57
jedijf907558400 bytes (908 MB) copied, 10.2397 s, 88.6 MB/s01:57
jedijfmust default to /dev/null01:58
ChinnoDogWhy is /dev/null 518MB?01:58
jedijfi have no sdb on that command - it would have kept going if i didn't ^c01:59
ChinnoDogidk.  That is scary02:01
* ChinnoDog hopes he didn't blow anything up02:01
ChinnoDogI need color coded terminal sessions. lol02:02
ChinnoDogthat is not the first time I ran a command on my server by accident, just the first time I attempted to zero out something on my server by accident.02:03
JonathanDheh :)02:03
ChinnoDogok, I just zeroed out my flash for real this time, and it has much more reasonable statistics.02:04
jedijfChinnoDog: how much swap on your server02:04
ChinnoDog1.5gb but I am not using any of it atm.02:05
jedijfChinnoDog: ok, it seems to write the zeroes to a /dev/sdb file - not a block device02:07
jedijfpacs@jedijf-netbook:~$ file /dev/sdb02:08
jedijf/dev/sdb: data02:08
jedijfpacs@jedijf-netbook:~$ file /dev/sda02:08
jedijf/dev/sda: block special02:08
ChinnoDogah. I see02:10
ChinnoDogBut, why 518MB?02:10
jedijfi don't know - mine wrote 1 gig02:11
jedijfthen device full02:11
jedijfahh02:12
ChinnoDogok, I deleted it02:12
jedijfdo a df02:12
jedijfyou'll see /dev spave02:12
jedijfspace02:12
jedijfthat's how much it wrote/writes02:12
ChinnoDogah. I see02:12
ChinnoDogNow that I have deleted /dev/sdb it is back to 495M free.02:12
jedijfyep02:14
jedijfChinnoDog: you make me learn some weird ass stuff02:14
jedijfty02:14
ChinnoDogha. One of these days I'm going to do something terrible02:19
ChinnoDogI guess that is the cost of an education02:19
rmg51just what the world needs, two jedijfs :P02:21
jedijfyou know what was kinda cool and weird - that /dev/sdb file could be gparted02:26
jedijfif specified explicitly02:26
ChinnoDogNow you can make fake hard disks in memory. idk how useful that is.02:28
jedijfcouldn't mount it02:28
jedijfi tried02:28
ChinnoDogYou probably could if there was a file system in it02:29
jedijfok in essence we created a pseudo block device like /dev/null just named sdb02:33
jedijfnah, not really02:35
jedijfjust a file of zeroes02:35
ChinnoDogsup MutantTurkey02:45
MutantTurkeyChinnoDog: hows it going?02:47
ChinnoDognot well. I am fighting with KVM and Server 0802:50
MutantTurkeyah03:13
MutantTurkeyi get so distracted making drum beats i lose track of time03:13
MutantTurkeyhence delayed responses03:13
=== stump_ is now known as stump
MutantTurkeyo/14:10
Dev_N00BHihi!14:10
MutantTurkeyhi hi hi hi hi14:11
* MutantTurkey needs to finish a term paper and another paper by 3 :o14:12
MutantTurkeyi have 5 pages of the paper done, so i'm not to worried. but i need a topic and story for my next paper, then i hae to write a report about the class, which is easy14:12
Dev_N00BWhat topic?14:17
MutantTurkeymy tem papre14:23
MutantTurkeyis about the effect of internet on distributing media14:23
MutantTurkeyspecifically movies music and news14:23
MutantTurkeythis paper i have no idea :x its not really a paper14:24
MutantTurkeyits like a journalism class so basically i have to find a story and like do something like a newspaper would do, a interview, an obituary whatever14:24
Dev_N00BWrite about ICE siezing domains without a court order OR contacting the site administrators14:42
MutantTurkeygood idea.14:42
Dev_N00BOr about the rise of alternative DNS root servers :)14:42
MutantTurkeywikileaks would be easy too14:43
* Dev_N00B puts on his thinking cap14:43
Dev_N00BWikileaks is expected.  So obvious :O14:43
MutantTurkeyi love how the government says WikiLeaks is endangering us all. but THERE THE ONES THAT FUCKED UP. ya dig?14:43
MutantTurkeyplus its all a conspiracy14:43
Dev_N00Byup14:43
MutantTurkeythere is no way such a low ranking officer would have access to all these documents14:43
MutantTurkeythe pinned the guy.14:43
MutantTurkeyit was obviously someone much higher up14:44
Dev_N00Bayew14:44
Dev_N00B*aye14:44
MutantTurkeymaybe i'll do an editorial on that14:44
Dev_N00BAnd the fact they got it out on USB ...14:44
MutantTurkeyi know.14:44
Dev_N00BSeriously!?  No one thought to block USB?!14:44
MutantTurkeylolol no14:44
Dev_N00BMy psych office now has a secure app running that blocks all USB data stroage devices on every PC and uses RSNA-CCMP (WPA2-Personal with AES) on all their wireless thanks to...14:45
Dev_N00BME14:45
Dev_N00BI'm glad I got the Thositba runnig Ubuntu 10.10, but using an ACPI workaround patch is not something I should need to do, ya dig?14:46
MutantTurkeyi dig14:48
MutantTurkeyis 10.10 nice?14:48
MutantTurkeyi haven't tried out ubuntu since like 9.0414:48
Dev_N00BIt is nice :)14:58
MutantTurkeyi'll have to give it a go sometime14:59
MutantTurkeyi haven't been doing much linux stuff lately. I'd like to get back to doing more but i'm busy15:00
Dev_N00BI want more tech toys, but I have college and other bills...15:05
Dev_N00BI wouldnt mind an Atom D525 box...15:05
MutantTurkeyyes15:12
MutantTurkeyi have an n330 i love it15:12
MutantTurkeyits my main desktop ._.15:12
MutantTurkeyand my server is a n27015:12
MutantTurkeythe savings alone on power have paid for my server.15:12
MutantTurkeyits completely passive cooling, no hard drive ( i run on an CF card ) its totally low power15:13
Dev_N00BNice15:16
Dev_N00BUbuntu 10.10 Netbook installed on the 7014G15:17
Dev_N00BWOOWOO!15:17
MutantTurkey:)15:17
Dev_N00BI like the D525 with the ION2.  4GB of RAM and an 80GB SSD would be sweet for the TV (50" Philips)15:17
Dev_N00BI could stream media over the network15:17
MutantTurkeyION2 defeats the purpose of the D525 design15:18
Dev_N00Bor the neighbors wireless.  NICE iTunes collection SHARED..15:18
Dev_N00BWhy is that?15:18
MutantTurkeybecause they've consolidated everything onto the single chip, including graphics15:18
MutantTurkeythe D525 is almost the same processor as the n330 otherwise15:18
MutantTurkeyperformance wise you might as well get an over-clockable n330 with the ION15:18
Dev_N00Bahhh15:19
Dev_N00Bokies15:19
MutantTurkeyi'd double check what i said, but i'm busy. i'm pretty sure thats accurate statement though15:19
Dev_N00BI was thinking D525 and Mythbuntu :)15:21
MutantTurkeyyeah15:24
MutantTurkeyi would still get the 525 or d510 or whatever.15:24
MutantTurkeyMini-box is the best place to get motherboards and psu's15:24
MutantTurkeyGREAT selection compared to newegg15:24
MutantTurkeyhttp://www.mini-box.com/site/index.html15:25
PennBotTitle: Mini-Box.com: mini-ITX, nano-ITX, pico-ITX, mobile-ITX solutions (at www.mini-box.com)15:25
MutantTurkeyi haven't used them yet. because i didn't know until about them recently15:25
MutantTurkeyhttp://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D525MWV-Mini-ITX-Motherboard15:26
PennBotTitle: Intel D525MWV Mini-ITX Motherboard (at www.mini-box.com)15:26
MutantTurkeyno good for HD though. its just a vga out. thats where the ion comes in15:26
MutantTurkeyhttp://www.mini-box.com/ASUS-AT5IONT-I-Atom-D525-ION that would be what you want15:27
PennBotTitle: ASUS AT5IONT-I Atom D525 ION (at www.mini-box.com)15:27
Dev_N00BLooks nice :)  BRB15:31
Dev_N00Bback15:37
MutantTurkeydefinitly go for that, because i was thinking about getting it too :p15:38
MutantTurkeyi wish they packaged the PSU's with it. but those psu's look really boss anyway. they are tiny15:38
MutantTurkeyrmg51: o/15:38
Dev_N00Bhttp://tv.gawker.com/5702578/russian-vogue-features-a-video-advertisement15:41
PennBotTitle: December Issue of Russian Vogue Features an Actual Video Advertisement (at tv.gawker.com)15:41
Dev_N00BHOT.  I'd hack it :O15:41
Dev_N00BMutantTurkey, who would pay $69 for a 4GB SATA drive?!15:43
Dev_N00BI'd sooner grab 2 32's and RAID them15:43
MutantTurkeyDev_N00B: its because custom probably15:44
MutantTurkeyi've never seen anything like it15:44
MutantTurkeyit plugs right into the sata port and is ssd based\15:45
MutantTurkeyplus its low powered (but i don't know relative to other ssds)15:45
Dev_N00Band 4GB is tiny...15:48
Dev_N00B16GB would be better15:48
MutantTurkeyyeah15:50
MutantTurkeywell dude, what are you using it for?15:50
MutantTurkeyi mean the thing is that if your trying to run an embedded-like system. you don't need alot of storage. if you do, then just use a regular hard drive. :p15:51
Dev_N00BXMBC or Mythbuntu with wireless access to a shared media library on a 50" Philips 1080p tv16:06
MutantTurkeyXMBC is awesome apparently16:14
MutantTurkeyxbmc i mean16:14
Dev_N00Blol16:14
Dev_N00BBeef Jerky, Baked Potatoes with Bacon, Sour Cream, and Cheese, and a glass of Lemonade.16:54
Dev_N00BLUNCH OF THE GODS!16:54
* Dev_N00B yells, "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"16:55
Dev_N00BThe Old Gods, mind you16:55
Dev_N00BSo... Drexel for Computers and Security?16:57
MutantTurkeydrexel?17:04
MutantTurkeymy old teacher went there.17:04
Dev_N00BTempted to go there.  GF went to Drexel17:13
MutantTurkeymontco ._.17:30
ChinnoDogdilbert++20:05
ChinnoDoghttp://http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-12-0120:06
ChinnoDogoops20:06
ChinnoDoghttp://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-12-0120:06
PennBotTitle: Dilbert comic strip for 12/01/2010 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive. (at dilbert.com)20:06

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