[01:37] <ChinnoDog> @crickets
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[01:45] <ChinnoDog> What is wrong with this command? sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512k
[01:46] <ChinnoDog> I ran that against a usb flash stick, it reports 988 records written and that it ran out of space, but I can unplug the dongle and plug it back in and the partitions and file system is perfectly intact.
[01:47] <ChinnoDog> Why isn't the flash completely empty??
[01:49] <JonathanD> maybe it's broken.
[01:50] <ChinnoDog> Its not broken. I've repartitioned it and formatted it and transferred files with it with no problems
[01:51] <JonathanD> then
[01:51] <JonathanD> nm
[01:51] <JonathanD> I had a flash card you could do stuff to, but when it tried to actually do it it would fail
[01:51] <JonathanD> but if you can partition it, probably not that ;)
[01:51] <ChinnoDog> oh crap
[01:51] <ChinnoDog> I just figured it out
[01:52] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: need count=1
[01:52] <ChinnoDog> oh no, it is much worse
[01:52] <jedijf> b is hard drive
[01:52] <jedijf> c is flash
[01:52] <jedijf> that sux
[01:52] <ChinnoDog> I did it on my hosted server in an ssh session by accident
[01:53] <jedijf> sorry, but LOL
[01:53] <ChinnoDog> but, there doesn't seem to be an sdb on my server
[01:53] <jedijf> count =1 will wipe mbr
[01:53] <pleia2> oh wow
[01:54] <ChinnoDog> ok, so what did I do to my server??
[01:54] <jedijf> no bs will wife whole puppy - wherever it is
[01:54] <ChinnoDog> It write 518mb of zeros to sdb...
[01:54] <jedijf> s/wife/wipe
[01:54] <ChinnoDog> s/write/wrote
[01:55] <jedijf> well since your in just mount
[01:55] <jedijf> mount
[01:55] <jedijf> to see what is/was there maybe
[01:55] <ChinnoDog> mount doesn't show anything on /sdb
[01:55] <ChinnoDog> /dev/sdb
[01:55] <ChinnoDog> there is no evidence it is mapped to a drive
[01:55] <jedijf> prolly not so it just failed
[01:55] <ChinnoDog> That is why I don't understand how I can write 518MB of zeros to a nonexistant drive
[01:55] <jedijf> hold on
[01:57] <jedijf> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[01:57] <jedijf> [sudo] password for pacs:
[01:57] <jedijf> ^C1772575+0 records in
[01:57] <jedijf> 1772575+0 records out
[01:57] <jedijf> 907558400 bytes (908 MB) copied, 10.2397 s, 88.6 MB/s
[01:58] <jedijf> must default to /dev/null
[01:58] <ChinnoDog> Why is /dev/null 518MB?
[01:59] <jedijf> i have no sdb on that command - it would have kept going if i didn't ^c
[02:01] <ChinnoDog> idk.  That is scary
[02:01]  * ChinnoDog hopes he didn't blow anything up
[02:02] <ChinnoDog> I need color coded terminal sessions. lol
[02:03] <ChinnoDog> that is not the first time I ran a command on my server by accident, just the first time I attempted to zero out something on my server by accident.
[02:03] <JonathanD> heh :)
[02:04] <ChinnoDog> ok, I just zeroed out my flash for real this time, and it has much more reasonable statistics.
[02:04] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: how much swap on your server
[02:05] <ChinnoDog> 1.5gb but I am not using any of it atm.
[02:07] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: ok, it seems to write the zeroes to a /dev/sdb file - not a block device
[02:08] <jedijf> pacs@jedijf-netbook:~$ file /dev/sdb
[02:08] <jedijf> /dev/sdb: data
[02:08] <jedijf> pacs@jedijf-netbook:~$ file /dev/sda
[02:08] <jedijf> /dev/sda: block special
[02:10] <ChinnoDog> ah. I see
[02:10] <ChinnoDog> But, why 518MB?
[02:11] <jedijf> i don't know - mine wrote 1 gig
[02:11] <jedijf> then device full
[02:12] <jedijf> ahh
[02:12] <ChinnoDog> ok, I deleted it
[02:12] <jedijf> do a df
[02:12] <jedijf> you'll see /dev spave
[02:12] <jedijf> space
[02:12] <jedijf> that's how much it wrote/writes
[02:12] <ChinnoDog> ah. I see
[02:12] <ChinnoDog> Now that I have deleted /dev/sdb it is back to 495M free.
[02:14] <jedijf> yep
[02:14] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: you make me learn some weird ass stuff
[02:14] <jedijf> ty
[02:19] <ChinnoDog> ha. One of these days I'm going to do something terrible
[02:19] <ChinnoDog> I guess that is the cost of an education
[02:21] <rmg51> just what the world needs, two jedijfs :P
[02:26] <jedijf> you know what was kinda cool and weird - that /dev/sdb file could be gparted
[02:26] <jedijf> if specified explicitly
[02:28] <ChinnoDog> Now you can make fake hard disks in memory. idk how useful that is.
[02:28] <jedijf> couldn't mount it
[02:28] <jedijf> i tried
[02:29] <ChinnoDog> You probably could if there was a file system in it
[02:33] <jedijf> ok in essence we created a pseudo block device like /dev/null just named sdb
[02:35] <jedijf> nah, not really
[02:35] <jedijf> just a file of zeroes
[02:45] <ChinnoDog> sup MutantTurkey
[02:47] <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: hows it going?
[02:50] <ChinnoDog> not well. I am fighting with KVM and Server 08
[03:13] <MutantTurkey> ah
[03:13] <MutantTurkey> i get so distracted making drum beats i lose track of time
[03:13] <MutantTurkey> hence delayed responses
[14:10] <MutantTurkey> o/
[14:10] <Dev_N00B> Hihi!
[14:11] <MutantTurkey> hi hi hi hi hi
[14:12]  * MutantTurkey needs to finish a term paper and another paper by 3 :o
[14:12] <MutantTurkey> i have 5 pages of the paper done, so i'm not to worried. but i need a topic and story for my next paper, then i hae to write a report about the class, which is easy
[14:17] <Dev_N00B> What topic?
[14:23] <MutantTurkey> my tem papre
[14:23] <MutantTurkey> is about the effect of internet on distributing media
[14:23] <MutantTurkey> specifically movies music and news
[14:24] <MutantTurkey> this paper i have no idea :x its not really a paper
[14:24] <MutantTurkey> its like a journalism class so basically i have to find a story and like do something like a newspaper would do, a interview, an obituary whatever
[14:42] <Dev_N00B> Write about ICE siezing domains without a court order OR contacting the site administrators
[14:42] <MutantTurkey> good idea.
[14:42] <Dev_N00B> Or about the rise of alternative DNS root servers :)
[14:43] <MutantTurkey> wikileaks would be easy too
[14:43]  * Dev_N00B puts on his thinking cap
[14:43] <Dev_N00B> Wikileaks is expected.  So obvious :O
[14:43] <MutantTurkey> i love how the government says WikiLeaks is endangering us all. but THERE THE ONES THAT FUCKED UP. ya dig?
[14:43] <MutantTurkey> plus its all a conspiracy
[14:43] <Dev_N00B> yup
[14:43] <MutantTurkey> there is no way such a low ranking officer would have access to all these documents
[14:43] <MutantTurkey> the pinned the guy.
[14:44] <MutantTurkey> it was obviously someone much higher up
[14:44] <Dev_N00B> ayew
[14:44] <Dev_N00B> *aye
[14:44] <MutantTurkey> maybe i'll do an editorial on that
[14:44] <Dev_N00B> And the fact they got it out on USB ...
[14:44] <MutantTurkey> i know.
[14:44] <Dev_N00B> Seriously!?  No one thought to block USB?!
[14:44] <MutantTurkey> lolol no
[14:45] <Dev_N00B> My psych office now has a secure app running that blocks all USB data stroage devices on every PC and uses RSNA-CCMP (WPA2-Personal with AES) on all their wireless thanks to...
[14:45] <Dev_N00B> ME
[14:46] <Dev_N00B> I'm glad I got the Thositba runnig Ubuntu 10.10, but using an ACPI workaround patch is not something I should need to do, ya dig?
[14:48] <MutantTurkey> i dig
[14:48] <MutantTurkey> is 10.10 nice?
[14:48] <MutantTurkey> i haven't tried out ubuntu since like 9.04
[14:58] <Dev_N00B> It is nice :)
[14:59] <MutantTurkey> i'll have to give it a go sometime
[15:00] <MutantTurkey> i haven't been doing much linux stuff lately. I'd like to get back to doing more but i'm busy
[15:05] <Dev_N00B> I want more tech toys, but I have college and other bills...
[15:05] <Dev_N00B> I wouldnt mind an Atom D525 box...
[15:12] <MutantTurkey> yes
[15:12] <MutantTurkey> i have an n330 i love it
[15:12] <MutantTurkey> its my main desktop ._.
[15:12] <MutantTurkey> and my server is a n270
[15:12] <MutantTurkey> the savings alone on power have paid for my server.
[15:13] <MutantTurkey> its completely passive cooling, no hard drive ( i run on an CF card ) its totally low power
[15:16] <Dev_N00B> Nice
[15:17] <Dev_N00B> Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook installed on the 7014G
[15:17] <Dev_N00B> WOOWOO!
[15:17] <MutantTurkey> :)
[15:17] <Dev_N00B> I like the D525 with the ION2.  4GB of RAM and an 80GB SSD would be sweet for the TV (50" Philips)
[15:17] <Dev_N00B> I could stream media over the network
[15:18] <MutantTurkey> ION2 defeats the purpose of the D525 design
[15:18] <Dev_N00B> or the neighbors wireless.  NICE iTunes collection SHARED..
[15:18] <Dev_N00B> Why is that?
[15:18] <MutantTurkey> because they've consolidated everything onto the single chip, including graphics
[15:18] <MutantTurkey> the D525 is almost the same processor as the n330 otherwise
[15:18] <MutantTurkey> performance wise you might as well get an over-clockable n330 with the ION
[15:19] <Dev_N00B> ahhh
[15:19] <Dev_N00B> okies
[15:19] <MutantTurkey> i'd double check what i said, but i'm busy. i'm pretty sure thats accurate statement though
[15:21] <Dev_N00B> I was thinking D525 and Mythbuntu :)
[15:24] <MutantTurkey> yeah
[15:24] <MutantTurkey> i would still get the 525 or d510 or whatever.
[15:24] <MutantTurkey> Mini-box is the best place to get motherboards and psu's
[15:24] <MutantTurkey> GREAT selection compared to newegg
[15:25] <MutantTurkey> http://www.mini-box.com/site/index.html
[15:25] <PennBot> Title: Mini-Box.com: mini-ITX, nano-ITX, pico-ITX, mobile-ITX solutions (at www.mini-box.com)
[15:25] <MutantTurkey> i haven't used them yet. because i didn't know until about them recently
[15:26] <MutantTurkey> http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D525MWV-Mini-ITX-Motherboard
[15:26] <PennBot> Title: Intel D525MWV Mini-ITX Motherboard (at www.mini-box.com)
[15:26] <MutantTurkey> no good for HD though. its just a vga out. thats where the ion comes in
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> http://www.mini-box.com/ASUS-AT5IONT-I-Atom-D525-ION that would be what you want
[15:27] <PennBot> Title: ASUS AT5IONT-I Atom D525 ION (at www.mini-box.com)
[15:31] <Dev_N00B> Looks nice :)  BRB
[15:37] <Dev_N00B> back
[15:38] <MutantTurkey> definitly go for that, because i was thinking about getting it too :p
[15:38] <MutantTurkey> i wish they packaged the PSU's with it. but those psu's look really boss anyway. they are tiny
[15:38] <MutantTurkey> rmg51: o/
[15:41] <Dev_N00B> http://tv.gawker.com/5702578/russian-vogue-features-a-video-advertisement
[15:41] <PennBot> Title: December Issue of Russian Vogue Features an Actual Video Advertisement (at tv.gawker.com)
[15:41] <Dev_N00B> HOT.  I'd hack it :O
[15:43] <Dev_N00B> MutantTurkey, who would pay $69 for a 4GB SATA drive?!
[15:43] <Dev_N00B> I'd sooner grab 2 32's and RAID them
[15:44] <MutantTurkey> Dev_N00B: its because custom probably
[15:44] <MutantTurkey> i've never seen anything like it
[15:45] <MutantTurkey> it plugs right into the sata port and is ssd based\
[15:45] <MutantTurkey> plus its low powered (but i don't know relative to other ssds)
[15:48] <Dev_N00B> and 4GB is tiny...
[15:48] <Dev_N00B> 16GB would be better
[15:50] <MutantTurkey> yeah
[15:50] <MutantTurkey> well dude, what are you using it for?
[15:51] <MutantTurkey> i mean the thing is that if your trying to run an embedded-like system. you don't need alot of storage. if you do, then just use a regular hard drive. :p
[16:06] <Dev_N00B> XMBC or Mythbuntu with wireless access to a shared media library on a 50" Philips 1080p tv
[16:14] <MutantTurkey> XMBC is awesome apparently
[16:14] <MutantTurkey> xbmc i mean
[16:14] <Dev_N00B> lol
[16:54] <Dev_N00B> Beef Jerky, Baked Potatoes with Bacon, Sour Cream, and Cheese, and a glass of Lemonade.
[16:54] <Dev_N00B> LUNCH OF THE GODS!
[16:55]  * Dev_N00B yells, "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
[16:55] <Dev_N00B> The Old Gods, mind you
[16:57] <Dev_N00B> So... Drexel for Computers and Security?
[17:04] <MutantTurkey> drexel?
[17:04] <MutantTurkey> my old teacher went there.
[17:13] <Dev_N00B> Tempted to go there.  GF went to Drexel
[17:30] <MutantTurkey> montco ._.
[20:05] <ChinnoDog> dilbert++
[20:06] <ChinnoDog> http://http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-12-01
[20:06] <ChinnoDog> oops
[20:06] <ChinnoDog> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-12-01
[20:06] <PennBot> Title: Dilbert comic strip for 12/01/2010 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive. (at dilbert.com)