[02:08] <ed__> holstein, i have the same, timidity midi always shows in patchage
[02:09] <holstein> ed__: how is i working?
[02:09] <holstein> it*
[02:09] <holstein> i cant remember exactly what you had going on
[02:10] <ed__> holstein, i'm not using midi, so i just ignore it, but still wonder why it shows up in patchage
[02:10] <holstein> OH
[02:10] <holstein> so you can connect to it ;)
[02:10] <holstein> if needed
[02:10] <ed__> holstein, the update manager wants me to upgrade to a newer kernel. will this affect real-time processing?
[02:11] <holstein> ed__: what kernel are you running?
[02:11] <ed__> holstein, 2.6.35-22-generic
[02:11] <holstein> OK
[02:11] <holstein> so you'll probably get a new generic kernel
[02:11] <holstein> i would go for the update
[02:12] <holstein> 2.6.35-22-generic isnt going anywhere :)
[02:12] <holstein> so you can come back and boot into it if needed
[02:12] <ed__> holstein, so when you do an ubuntustudio install, lyou don't get real-time?
[02:12] <holstein> ed__: 10.10?
[02:12] <ed__> holstein, yes
[02:12] <holstein> there was an RT kernel in 10.04
[02:12] <holstein> that was the one from 9.10
[02:13] <holstein> that just got moved over
[02:13] <holstein> i use 10.04 with a ppa added
[02:13] <holstein> its https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/lucid
[02:13] <holstein> ^^ but its not loading right now :/
[02:13] <holstein> youll have to check back later
[02:14] <holstein> that has -realtime kernels
[02:14] <holstein> there is abogani's ppa as well
[02:14] <holstein> with the same RT kernels
[02:14] <holstein> http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick
[02:14] <ed__> holstein, yes, but don't you run into the same situation, update manager wanting to update kernel?
[02:15] <holstein> thats a how-to for getting a RT kernel in 10.10
[02:15] <holstein> ed__: sure
[02:15] <holstein> i update or not
[02:15] <holstein> depends on the machine
[02:15] <holstein> my studio box
[02:15] <holstein> i only run that one kernel
[02:15] <holstein> aboganis
[02:15] <holstein> and it doesnt update that often
[02:15] <holstein> probably one update since i installed
[02:16] <holstein> and it was not a new verion
[02:16] <holstein> just an update
[02:16] <holstein> on my other machines
[02:16] <holstein> where i run more that one kernel
[02:16] <holstein> i just keep track of what is what
[02:16] <holstein> i try and keep the latest generic and the last generic that worked
[02:16] <holstein> for emergencies
[02:16] <holstein> and i dont have my grub list hidden
[02:17] <ed__> holstein, ok
[02:17] <holstein> ed__: feel free to come in here
[02:17] <holstein> and ask
[02:17] <holstein> it can be daunting
[02:18] <holstein> the generic kernel is getting more and more capable of RT tasking
[02:19] <ed__> holstein, what is the difference between a RT kernel and a low-latency kernel?
[02:19] <holstein> i would put them in that order
[02:20] <holstein> realtime then low-latency then generic
[02:20] <holstein> -RT is the same as -realtime
[02:20] <holstein> well, bascially
[02:20] <holstein> i usually suggest starting with the generic one
[02:21] <holstein> then moving up to the low-latency
[02:21] <holstein> then the realtime
[02:21] <holstein> if needed
[02:21] <ed__> holstein, i see
[02:26] <ed__> well, i'm off to play with hydrogen and ardour, thanx, later
[06:14] <maitrey_> hi to all. What is the option : source code (in software centre) should it be checked???
[06:15] <maitrey_> as I am getting some errors while installing the .iso
[06:15] <maitrey_> thanks
[17:11] <Arthur_D> hi, sorry for being slightly off-topic as I don't use Ubuntu Studio - but I need some help regarding FFMPEG and/or mencoder. If you know of a better place to get help, please give me a hint and I'll go elsewhere :)
[17:12] <holstein> Arthur_D: go ahead and ask
[17:12] <holstein> we'll see
[17:16] <Arthur_D> okay. I'm going to do some screen recordings using glc, and then get the raw yuv stream in a y4m container. I basically know how to do that, but AFAIK video editing tools such as Pitivi can't open these files, and as such I need to encode them into a readable format. But I need to keep as much information as possible, in order to combine several clips and re-encode them into the same, more lossy file. So, what should I use to produc
[17:16] <Arthur_D> e lossless, but common video files?
[17:17] <holstein> cant do ogg?
[17:17] <holstein> i try and do ogg whenever possible
[17:17] <holstein> audio or video
[17:17] <Arthur_D> video
[17:18] <holstein> yeah
[17:18] <holstein> i try and make ogg's whenever possible, wheather the files be audio or video*
[17:18] <Arthur_D> what format and settings to use to get as lossless as possible?
[17:18] <holstein> Arthur_D: can you use ogg ?
[17:19] <Arthur_D> AFAIK OGG isn't the best for video
[17:19] <holstein> so, you tried it, and didnt like the quality?
[17:19] <holstein> Arthur_D: is this HD video?
[17:19] <Arthur_D> haven't tried yet
[17:20] <Arthur_D> only 720p
[17:21] <Arthur_D> not sure how to tell OGG to preserve as much info as possible, as I need to re-encode later
[17:21] <Arthur_D> I'll use whatever gives decent results after re-encoding
[17:22] <holstein> Arthur_D: are you sure pitivi wont do y4m's?
[17:23] <Arthur_D> not quite - having a bit of trouble with glc atm, so can't check just yet
[17:23] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1545470.html
[17:23] <holstein> Arthur_D: i would just go ahead and try y4m's in a couple tools
[17:23] <holstein> like pitivi
[17:23] <holstein> and avidemux
[17:23] <Arthur_D> yeah, that would be the best option, if it works
[17:24] <holstein> and try and completely rule out using ogg or high quality mpegs
[17:24] <holstein> then go from there
[17:25] <Arthur_D> that sounds like the best idea. Thanks for the help (may have to add "so far", but we'll see ;) )
[17:25] <holstein> sure
[17:25] <holstein> good luck :)
[17:25] <Arthur_D> thanks mate :)