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| rye | hi, you may receive a bogus oops-tools summary sent from buffaloberry, please ignore that, I ran the wrong script :( | 10:17 |
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| allenap | I seem to be subscribed to several private PPAs that I have no recollection of. Is that normal? How can I unsubscribe? | 12:07 |
| wgrant | allenap: You've probably inherited them through team memberships. | 12:07 |
| wgrant | Subscriptions just grant you access -- they don't give you additional notifications. | 12:08 |
| allenap | wgrant: Okay. I just ignore them then? | 12:08 |
| wgrant | allenap: Indeed. | 12:08 |
| allenap | wgrant: Cheers :) | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | can someone edit the VCS imports of https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/ktorrent/trunk | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | the new git urls are : git://git.kde.org/libktorrent | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer | and git://git.kde.org/ktorrent | 12:10 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: hi | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer | jelmer: heya :D | 12:10 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: you need to add a new import, we can change lp:ktorrent to point at that new branch. | 12:11 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 12:11 |
| shadeslayer | hold on then :) | 12:11 |
| shadeslayer | jelmer: https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/ktorrent/trunk | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer | seems i need a new project for libktorrent | 12:13 |
| jelmer | there's a difference between ktorrent and libktorrent? | 12:14 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: I've fixed lp:ktorrent | 12:14 |
| shadeslayer | ah thanks | 12:15 |
| shadeslayer | and yeah | 12:15 |
| shadeslayer | they split out the ktorrent shared libraries | 12:15 |
| shadeslayer | should i just register libktorrent under the same project or just give it a different branch name? | 12:15 |
| shadeslayer | s/same/different | 12:16 |
| shadeslayer | jelmer: ^^ | 12:17 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: That's a good question, I guess a different project is appropriate. | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | jelmer: can you move https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/libktorrent/trunk to launchpad.net/libktorrent | 12:25 |
| jelmer | shadeslayer: done | 12:26 |
| * jelmer wonders who is CHR today | 12:26 | |
| shadeslayer | thanks! :) | 12:26 |
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| patdk-wk | how often does the repository for a ppa add new packages? | 13:59 |
| patdk-wk | wondering if it's dynamic or like a 30min fixed loop or something, so I have an idea how often not to check it :) | 13:59 |
| bigjools | patdk-wk: it depends mostly on the load of the system, it can vary between 5 minutes and 40 minutes | 14:00 |
| patdk-wk | heh, mine seem to always be up near 40min, so I thought it might be a timed thing, instead of load based | 14:00 |
| bigjools | there's a lot of load lately, I'm working on a fix to speed it up as well | 14:04 |
| patdk-wk | nice | 14:07 |
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| patdk-wk | strange, it was working last night, but no longer :( | 14:40 |
| patdk-wk | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/patricidk/general-lucid/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found | 14:40 |
| patdk-wk | oh, seems add-apt doesn't do any good checking | 14:42 |
| patdk-wk | even though it told me it failed, it added the broken ppa anyways | 14:42 |
| bigjools | patdk-wk: you've spelled "patrickdk" wrong ... | 14:45 |
| patdk-wk | I noticed | 14:45 |
| patdk-wk | but add-apt added it anyways :( even though it didn't exist | 14:45 |
| patdk-wk | it yelled at me, so I didn't think it would have added it | 14:46 |
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| leonardr | sinzui, i'm trying to understand something jml said and gary says you'll be able to explain it | 15:06 |
| jml | hah | 15:06 |
| leonardr | or, if jml is still around, he can do it (sorry, jml, i keep forgetting you're in england) | 15:06 |
| sinzui | Wow. that was hard to understand. I hope the question is easier | 15:07 |
| leonardr | jml, what do you mean by "project Foo and all of its downstreams"? what are the downstreams and how is that relationship represented in launchpad? | 15:07 |
| jml | leonardr: oh right. a Product and its linked source packages in various distros. | 15:08 |
| jml | leonardr: with our current data set, I believe that would be Ubuntu, but as the derived archive work progresses it could involve other distros as well | 15:08 |
| leonardr | ok, processing... | 15:08 |
| jml | to pick a bad example, Banshee is an upstream Product, people file bugs there and on the ubuntu/+source/banshee source package | 15:09 |
| jml | but then for reasons unknown to mankind, Banshee becomes an integral part of Linaro, which is (will be) modelled as a derivative of Ubuntu | 15:10 |
| leonardr | jml: would it make conceptual sense to navigate from a project to a collection of its distro_source_packages? | 15:10 |
| leonardr | (finish your parable first) | 15:10 |
| jml | oh, and we're also in this future maintaining a full mirror of Debian's bugs | 15:10 |
| jml | it's highly likely that someone would want to search through the banshee bugs in all of those areas: upstream, ubuntu, linaro, debian | 15:11 |
| jml | maybe when this becomes more likely we could introduce different data models, but the use case remains... it's exactly the sort of thing Launchpad should do. | 15:12 |
| jml | leonardr: thinking... | 15:12 |
| leonardr | actually, scratch that question for the moment | 15:12 |
| leonardr | here's a better question | 15:12 |
| leonardr | there's a bug in banshee-in-linaro | 15:12 |
| leonardr | how would you navigate from the bug to the banshee product? | 15:13 |
| jml | leonardr: probably with a more expanded version of the Ubuntu-specific things we have already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/banshee | 15:14 |
| jml | (or see https://bugs.launchpad.net/do for a project that has bugs in both the upstream & Ubuntu) | 15:15 |
| leonardr | jml: i'm talking about one specific bug. it would have a bug_target, right? | 15:16 |
| leonardr | and the bug_target would either be banshee, or it would be banshee-in-linaro | 15:16 |
| jml | leonardr: oh right, sorry, I had it around the wrong way... | 15:16 |
| leonardr | and if it was banshee-in-linaro, then banshee-in-linaro would have some kind of link to banshee | 15:16 |
| jml | yes | 15:16 |
| leonardr | ok, i can work with that, thanks | 15:17 |
| jml | although I imagine a more common use would be simply clicking some kind of link saying "this also affects upstream", but what you describe would probably be there | 15:17 |
| * leonardr thinking in terms of the data structures | 15:17 | |
| jml | leonardr: fwiw, banshee and banshee-in-linaro (linaro/+source/banshee) would be of two different types | 15:18 |
| jml | Product and DistributionSourcePackage | 15:18 |
| leonardr | good to know | 15:18 |
| jml | they probably both implement some of the same interfaces though | 15:18 |
| leonardr | yeah, like IBugTarget | 15:18 |
| jml | indeed | 15:19 |
| * jml retreats back to his cave | 15:21 | |
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| leonardr | jml: i'm back | 16:07 |
| leonardr | let's talk about "Ubuntu and its derivatives" | 16:07 |
| nigelb | I think he went back to his cave | 16:07 |
| * leonardr lives in hope that jml has irc in his cave | 16:07 | |
| nigelb | :p | 16:07 |
| leonardr | in your second example you mention bugs "in Ubuntu and its derivatives" | 16:08 |
| jml | leonardr: yes. | 16:08 |
| leonardr | a bug would be associated with Ubuntu through bug/bug_target/distribution, and only if the bug_target was a distribution source package | 16:09 |
| leonardr | is that right? | 16:09 |
| jml | leonardr: yes, that's right. | 16:09 |
| leonardr | suppose instead a bug is associated with a derivative of ubuntu | 16:10 |
| jml | leonardr: and, conceptually, a distribution would have a derivative_distributions collection associated with it. (I don't know how that is actually implemented in the data model) | 16:10 |
| jml | ok. | 16:10 |
| leonardr | how is that derivative related to ubuntu? | 16:10 |
| leonardr | ok | 16:10 |
| leonardr | so there'd be some kind of 'parent_distribution' on kubuntu | 16:10 |
| jml | leonardr: probably there's a distribution.derived_from property | 16:10 |
| jml | yeah | 16:10 |
| leonardr | and i imagine that can be recursive | 16:11 |
| jml | and probably, Linaro rather than kubuntu for an actual real-world example | 16:11 |
| jml | leonardr: as in more than one layer of derivation? yes. | 16:11 |
| leonardr | all right | 16:12 |
| jml | leonardr: anything else? | 16:13 |
| leonardr | jml: that should be it | 16:14 |
| jml | leonardr: cool. thanks. | 16:14 |
| Pegasus_RPG_ | hello. When we make release branches off of trunk, should we not stack them? | 16:25 |
| Pegasus_RPG_ | Or does it matteR? | 16:25 |
| yofel | could someone help me retry https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/2073902/+retry - it times out (Error ID: OOPS-1797K1474) | 16:29 |
| ubot5 | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1797K1474 | 16:29 |
| AJenbo | Hi i'm not reciving any confirmation after uploading packages to my ppa | 16:32 |
| AJenbo | It has been over a week | 16:32 |
| AJenbo | https://launchpad.net/~ajenbo/+archive/id-game-ports | 16:32 |
| jelmer | AJenbo: did you receive any email confirming that your packages were accepted or rejected? | 16:33 |
| jelmer | before they were even built, I mean | 16:34 |
| jelmer | were the packages signed with your GPG key as registered on Launchpad, and did they list a correct email address ? | 16:34 |
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| AJenbo | yes | 16:36 |
| AJenbo | no i did build the packages | 16:36 |
| AJenbo | http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/exYnbyWK | 16:37 |
| AJenbo | jelmer, I'm actually beginning to doubth that it was the same pgp key, as i can't seam to match the 2048R/9647A895 in LP with the keys on my machine | 16:38 |
| AJenbo | But when i try to insert the Fingerprint of the key LP just rejects it | 16:39 |
| jelmer | AJenbo: You can't upload binary packages to PPA's, only source packages. | 16:40 |
| bigjools | AJenbo, jelmer: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227 | 16:41 |
| jelmer | bigjools: thanks | 16:41 |
| AJenbo | jelmer, it has all the source, i don't want to upload the bin just the source, am i doing some thing wrong?* | 16:42 |
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| jcsackett | Pegasus_RPG_: generally it's okay to make stacked branches. http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-guide/stacked.html | 16:44 |
| AJenbo | jelmer, do i need to clean out some thing after test building before i upload? | 16:44 |
| patdk-wk | I just rebuild with -S | 16:45 |
| jelmer | AJenbo: To build just the source you need an option to whatever you're using to build (e.g. debuild -S). #ubuntu-packaging is probably more appropriate for this sort of question. | 16:45 |
| AJenbo | Hmm LP says Oops when i try to set up my PGP key | 16:46 |
| AJenbo | Error ID: OOPS-1797O1497 | 16:46 |
| ubot5 | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1797O1497 | 16:46 |
| jcsackett | abentley: can you help out yofel with what looks like a ppa build timeout issue, or should i ping someone else? | 16:46 |
| yofel | jcsackett: it seems like it builds now after refreshing the page a few times, even with the timeout error | 16:47 |
| bigjools | jcsackett: it;'s working for hgm now | 16:47 |
| jcsackett | yofel, bigjools: cool, glad to hear it. :-) | 16:48 |
| bigjools | yofel: there's an auto-retry for dependency-wait builds | 16:48 |
| abentley | jcsackett: please see if someone from soyuz is available. I've got a lot of Release Manager stuff to do at the moment. | 16:48 |
| bigjools | you don't need to hit retry | 16:48 |
| jcsackett | abentley: issue seems to be resolved. and i forgot you were in RM mode--that trumps. :-) | 16:48 |
| yofel | ah, well, it builds so I'm happy | 16:48 |
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| AJenbo | Ok that seamed to help, now i got an email, but | 17:12 |
| AJenbo | Unable to find distroseries: unstable | 17:12 |
| AJenbo | I guess that i have to change it to maverick | 17:12 |
| AJenbo | Accepted :) | 17:23 |
| AJenbo | thanks or the help guys | 17:23 |
| RichW | Why does my branch have a funny url (lp:hypernucleus-server)? https://code.launchpad.net/~richies/hypernucleus-server/PyramidPort | 17:36 |
| RichW | Shouldn't it have pyramidport on the end of it? | 17:36 |
| RichW | nvm i think i understand | 17:36 |
| AJenbo | does some one know how to generate a finger print for the ppa? | 17:46 |
| maxb | AJenbo: I'm not sure quite what you mean, can you explain a bit more? | 17:51 |
| guilhembi | Hello, we MySQL have an issue, a LP branch which has stopped mirroring, is there any LP admin here who could help? | 17:51 |
| cody-somerville | losas: ^^ | 17:51 |
| AJenbo | sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ajenbo/id-game-ports | 17:51 |
| AJenbo | Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~ajenbo/+archive/id-game-ports | 17:52 |
| AJenbo | maxb, ^ | 17:52 |
| maxb | AJenbo: A recently created PPA? The key is generated a short while after the first upload to the PPA | 17:52 |
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| AJenbo | ok, ill give it some time then :) | 17:52 |
| maxb | It looks like it has happened now | 17:53 |
| ahasenack | is there any way to speed up the publication of a package in a ppa? LP says "published 37 minutes ago", status published, but at the same time says "Note: Some binary packages for this source are not yet published in the repository." | 17:56 |
| ahasenack | isn't that a lie when it says "published"? | 17:56 |
| ahasenack | i386 - Pending publication | 17:56 |
| bigjools | ahasenack: source is published, binaries are not | 17:56 |
| jcsackett | guilhembi: an admin should be responding shortly, per cody-sommerville's request. | 17:56 |
| ahasenack | bigjools: saying "status: published" can be quite misleading then as a summary | 17:56 |
| mbarnett | guilhembi: what branch are you having an issue with? | 17:57 |
| ahasenack | bigjools: anyway, the binary is built, it's just another cron job that has to kick in to actually make it visible for apt-get? | 17:57 |
| bigjools | ahasenack: see bug 657633 | 17:57 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 657633 in Soyuz "PPA page says my PPA is both published and not yet published" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657633 | 17:57 |
| guilhembi | mbarnett: this one: | 17:57 |
| guilhembi | https://code.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-trunk | 17:58 |
| guilhembi | mbarnett: and this one: | 17:58 |
| bigjools | ahasenack: yes you need to wait, we've got a slow publisher at the moment because of a couple of bugs and larger load than usual | 17:58 |
| guilhembi | https://code.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-trunk-bugfixing | 17:58 |
| bigjools | 40mins tops | 17:58 |
| guilhembi | they have "next mirror: disabled". I'd like them to be kicked off, so that they mirror again. | 17:58 |
| ahasenack | bigjools: ok, thanks | 17:58 |
| mbarnett | guilhembi: i see that mirroring is disabled. let me see if i can figure out why. | 17:58 |
| bigjools | ahasenack: it should speed up considerably next time we release, I just fixed a nice bug | 17:59 |
| guilhembi | mbarnett: for mysql-trunk, I think it's because we renamed the branch on our side, but I updated that in LP ~8 hours ago, | 17:59 |
| guilhembi | and it hasn't woken up since then. | 17:59 |
| AJenbo | maxb, the command is still complaning, guess it has a stupid cache some where | 17:59 |
| guilhembi | mbarnett: for trunk-bugfixing, I don't know the reason. | 17:59 |
| maxb | AJenbo: hmm, let me try it.... | 17:59 |
| ahasenack | bigjools: \o/ | 17:59 |
| maxb | AJenbo: fails here too. I am confused. | 18:00 |
| AJenbo | maxb, removing it and then adding it solved it | 18:00 |
| maxb | AJenbo: removing what? | 18:00 |
| AJenbo | sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:ajenbo/id-game-ports | 18:01 |
| AJenbo | maxb, but the ppa makes software center crash x( | 18:04 |
| AJenbo | apt-add-repro added "src http://ppa....." instead of "deb http://ppa....." x( | 18:09 |
| yofel | me again, this time I have a build that's stuck uploading.. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/2073903 | 18:35 |
| jcsackett | StevenK: are you available to help out yofel with a build issue? | 18:37 |
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| jfi | Hello, is there a way to check a package before uploading it into ppa? to check that it will not be rejected for trivial reasons | 19:34 |
| AJenbo | http://pastebin.com/fQ1zZa8G | 19:45 |
| AJenbo | when i install packages from my PPA i get rejected with a message about them beeing a non trusted source | 19:45 |
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| maxb | AJenbo: An annoyance with the new PPA process is that the PPA key generation will only be initiated after the first publication of a package, and the PPA will only be signed by the key when some other event causes republication of the PPA | 19:56 |
| maxb | If you upload another package, or a new version of an existing package, the problem should resolve itself | 19:56 |
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| AJenbo | maxb, ok stupid, but ill give it a go :) | 20:30 |
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| maxb | AJenbo: Yes, it is stupid. It's bug 374395. One day.... :-) | 21:24 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 374395 in Soyuz "New PPAs can be published unsigned" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374395 | 21:24 |
| bjf | i'm getting a "Code Update In Progress" when attempting to access the staging server, any guess on when this will be available? | 21:32 |
| jcsackett | bjf: it can depend on what happens during the update, but in my experience not too long. | 21:35 |
| bjf | jcsackett, thanks, i'll give it some more time | 21:36 |
| lifeless | bjf: we're doing a full restore. | 22:12 |
| lifeless | bjf: be 24 hours or so | 22:12 |
| bjf | lifeless, ouch | 22:12 |
| lifeless | bjf: you could use qastaging | 22:12 |
| bjf | lifeless, ok, will try that | 22:12 |
| bjf | lifeless, Service Temporarily Unavailable (qastaging) | 22:13 |
| maxb | How come jaunty is not present under PPA supported series at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas, but it still accepts uploads? | 22:34 |
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| achiang | lamont: hi, are the buildds ... cranky right now? | 23:30 |
| wgrant | achiang: What's up? | 23:32 |
| wgrant | They look OK to me. | 23:32 |
| achiang | wgrant: hm, i uploaded a package to a PPA (private, OEM) about 30 minutes ago, and haven't received mail that it was accepted yet | 23:33 |
| wgrant | achiang: That's well before it gets near the buildds. | 23:33 |
| wgrant | So it's well before it enters lamont's domain. | 23:33 |
| achiang | wgrant: ok, sorry for the noise then | 23:33 |
| wgrant | Let's see.. | 23:33 |
| wgrant | Uploads are being processed OK at the moment. Are you sure you signed it properly and everything? | 23:34 |
| achiang | wgrant: pretty sure. i have something set in my dput.cf that won't let me upload unless it's signed | 23:35 |
| achiang | wgrant: some things are moving again. this is probably an oem specific thing, please don't waste any more time on me. :) | 23:36 |
| achiang | wgrant: although maybe you could help answer me another question -- in a debian/control file, i have Architecture: all which means it is architecture independent. i currently see it building in launchpad with a little i386 icon. is that just the default for an "all" build? | 23:38 |
| wgrant | achiang: Right, Architecture: all is built on i386 at the moment. | 23:42 |
| achiang | wgrant: ok, thanks | 23:42 |
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