[00:00] dan2: What exactly do you have booted, Ubuntu or Super GRUB Disk? [00:00] super grub disk in to some bootleg terminal only ubuntu [00:02] ok [00:02] so what do I do now? [00:03] I see this bluescreen menu briefly flash in and out [00:03] like it has the option I want to choose [00:03] to reinstall grub [00:03] but I can't select it [00:03] before it just disappears [00:04] dan2: Are you at a terminal currently? [00:04] yes [00:04] dan2: Run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc". [00:05] dan2: When it asks for "install devices" be sure that your boot drive, probably "/dev/sda", is selected and *no* partitions, like "/dev/sda1" are selected. [00:06] Jordan_U, wonder if the hard disk is bad [00:06] I just reinstalled to sdb [00:06] which USB drive was SDA [00:07] never brings me to a menu [00:07] dan2: I'm not clear on what you have done. Did you run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc? [00:08] yes I did that [00:08] the usb drive with super grub boot disk was sda [00:08] so I only installed to sdb [00:09] dan2: Good. Hopefully that fixed things, though it's hard to say without knowing what the original cause of the problem was. [00:09] didn't fix squat [00:09] dan2: What exactly happens when you try to boot from the internal drive? [00:09] goes directly back to the bios [00:10] I was able to pick a kernel and boot with it from super grub disk [00:10] but have no idea what is wrong with that drive now.. [00:11] dan2: Could you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt? [00:11] asking a lot to paste [00:11] for something that has no X windows [00:11] !pastebinit | dan2 [00:11] dan2: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [00:12] ok [00:14] man [00:14] didn't mount this time [00:15] alright [00:15] this thing is toast\ [00:15] probably bad drive [00:15] been shipped around the country too many times [00:16] does the ubuntu daily x264 have unity as default? [00:16] x64 [00:17] yes [00:18] dan2, the daily and daily-live default to unity now. [00:18] man [00:18] cdimage.ubuntu.org is slow [00:18] .com [00:18] testing day [00:19] it's like 30K per second right now [00:19] is there a netinst version of this? [00:19] I dont think [00:20] dan2, the only net install i recall is from debian [00:21] dan2: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [00:21] dunno how tested they are though. [00:22] eh [00:22] how do I make an image from this? [00:23] * Pici shrugs [00:23] dan2, download the mini.iso [00:23] I;m surprised its even there actually [00:25] mm I do notice that xchat on natty .. at this point..does not remember its settings [00:37] well [00:37] apparently the netboot doesn't work to save it's life [03:34] ok guys.. on natty..unity..I read there was a way to move the Panel to the bottom or whereever... anyone know how to do this? [03:52] does anyone else get window manager disappearing on this natty live cd? [03:56] dan2, got to get the newest one. 20101202 is working [03:57] but, yes, the version before 02 is broken [03:57] I downloaded "current" [03:57] doesn't that point to that one? [03:57] and secondly [03:57] what specifically fixes the issue? [03:57] Yeah, we just uploaded a new one about 2 hours ago [03:57] so after I finish my install, I can update [03:58] ahh [03:58] I must have downloaded 20101201.1 [03:58] charlie-tca, so what fixes it? [03:58] lp:~canonical-dx-team/unity/unity.fix-682345 [03:58] what am I supposed to do with that? [03:58] has to do with bug 682345 [03:58] Launchpad bug 682345 in Unity "SEGSEGV in nux::ResourceData::GetResourceIndex() const ()" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682345 [03:59] you asked for the specific fix [03:59] what package do I need to upgrade? [03:59] unity? [03:59] Not sure. something to do with renaming the example.desktop file [04:00] I just zsync the image to update it [04:00] I've already started the install process [04:00] from USB flash to USB flash [04:00] I'm not redoing it [04:03] okay. At least you know that is a known issue, right? [04:03] ya, it's been broken on my desktop since I upgraded to this [04:04] Hopefully, that fix works for you, too. It fixed the live cd [04:04] k [04:04] is there anyway to keep the same theme for window borders but move all the buttons to the right hand corner of the window instead of the left [04:04] it is really annoying on the left [04:05] I haven't seen anything in appearance that lets me do that [04:05] there is, but I don't know what you doe for it [04:08] dan2, there might be an easier way, but here is one way to move the buttons [04:09] http://blog.daviey.com/blogroll/anything-but-the-buttons.html [04:09] charlie-tca, how do I get to the launcher favorites list? [04:09] no idea [04:10] I can't really do much with unity and compiz, myself. I run Xubuntu because it works for me [04:12] man [04:13] us.archive.ubuntu.com is brutally slow [04:15] yes [04:19] ok so like [04:19] i am on the current 11.04 release [04:19] and alpha1 releases tomorrow [04:19] Am I going to have to download the new ISO tomorrow? [04:19] no [04:19] !final [04:19] If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Maverick Meerkat and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Maverick. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [04:20] that applies to natty now instead of maverick [04:20] it says in my sys info [04:20] Release: 11.04 (natty) [04:20] also, does alpha 1 come out at midnight? [04:21] Or some time tomorrow [04:21] Ambeer: basically keep installing updates and you will be at alpha1 [04:21] another question. I do not have unity ui [04:21] some time tomorrow, before midnite thursday UTC normally [04:21] alpha 1 should put me on Unity, right? [04:22] !no, final is If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Natty Narwhal and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Natty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [04:23] So after I do dist-upgrade [04:23] ill be on Unity? [04:23] tomorrow ofc [04:23] You might have to choose desktop session on the login screen. [04:23] Thats another problem [04:23] desktop session doesnt even start up [04:24] And classic desktop barely does [04:24] well, it is pre-alpha [04:24] bugs and brokenness is expected [04:25] even welcome for some [04:25] Yea [04:25] Whenever i start up none of the apps start (like show desktop, and the top bar) [04:25] so like hopefully alpha fixes that [04:26] damn [04:26] I'm still having the identical boot problem [04:26] I wouldn't hold my breath [04:27] the Adoption of Unity has brought in some new difficulties, more so then a regular new release [04:27] But they've used it in Netbook [04:27] so it's not that new [04:27] Why did I capitalize Adoption :/ [04:27] ARRRGHGHHH [04:28] why can't I boot any of these new ubuntu installs [04:28] hrm [04:28] I can't get to grub [04:28] it's just rolls back and forth through the bios [04:28] Which dl did you do? [04:28] doesn't matter if I hold shift [04:28] the current DVD ISO? [04:28] Amaranth, 1201.01 [04:28] I downloaded it a couple of hours ago [04:28] I don't know how to fix this problem... [04:29] Maybe you should try the Maverick Meerkrat DVD instead [04:31] ugh [04:31] I don't want maverick [04:31] this has newer kernel [04:31] newer drm [04:31] less crap I have to compile [04:31] newer mesa [04:31] so which dl did you do [04:31] the DVD 4GB ISO? [04:31] I told you which download I did [04:31] daily live [04:31] 20101201.1 [04:32] it was "current" then [04:32] maybe you should try the DVD ISO [04:32] and burn it to a dvd [04:32] so install maverick, a kernel backport, and the xorg-edgers ppa... [04:32] or that [04:32] I just want this stupid pos to boot [04:32] I think it has to do with the fact that I installed from one usb drive to another [04:33] this grub stuff can't handle switching from /dev/sda to /dev/sdb [04:33] rather [04:33] vice versa [04:33] and there's no way for me to control it === FireCrotch is now known as nickmoeck [04:37] jeez [04:37] I have no idea what is wrong with this pos [04:40] you shouldn't be running pre release on a point of sale === FireCrotch is now known as nickmoeck [04:42] I didn't say point of sale [04:42] trying to edit grub.cfg.... no vi, no nano, no pico [04:43] more doesn't work [04:43] it just displays the whole file at one time [04:44] dan2: yeah I know what you meant, I was just trying to remind you of the language rule :) [04:48] man I have no idea what is going on [04:48] grub doesn't even start [04:50] man [04:50] the partitioner really screwed this one up [04:50] it left 1mb of free space in front of the primary partition [04:50] probably the reason this can't boot [04:51] ok, how do I rsync the latest image or such [04:51] and I'll reinstall I guess [04:57] are there mirrors of cdimage.ubuntu.com? [05:42] welp [05:42] i wonder why i cant boot into desktop session [05:44] hi JontheEchidna [05:51] alright I give up [05:51] I've spent hours working on this installation [05:51] this thing is not booting to save it's life [05:52] lol [05:52] well goo dluck [05:52] if you try another release [05:52] unetbootin boots properly on this box [05:52] but that grub [05:52] does not boot at all [05:52] don't even think bios detects it [05:59] even super grub 2 doesn't work [06:02] ok, grub2 blows [06:02] :) [06:03] it just spits out "GRUB" with super grub 2 [06:03] and hangs [06:03] more like [06:03] GRUB _(blinking) [06:04] dan2, so you redownloaded? [06:04] im having a problem too :( [06:05] are you guys clean installing from daily build or updating? [06:05] cozziemoto, yes [06:05] yes [06:05] No im having a diff problem [06:05] mm [06:05] im on release 11.04 [06:05] dan2, did you check md5sum for imoage before burning it ..yes? [06:05] used zsync [06:05] so it's good [06:06] it's simply this grub crap [06:06] Amber2, you mean way before release 11.04 ..yes? [06:06] it doesn't work with my bios or something [06:06] in my system info [06:06] it says [06:06] whatever it's doing is hanging [06:06] Release: 11.04 (natty) [06:06] Amber2, 11.04 isnt due to be released until april 2011 [06:07] Do you want a screenshot to prove it [06:07] lol [06:07] yes [06:07] Amber2, its in pre alpha right now i believe [06:08] http://icanhasimage.com/images/ons41bxfetwmlgt6eisg.png [06:08] hrm. [06:08] Amber2, that's incorrect [06:08] Amber2, it is not a release yet [06:08] So then how can I find the correct version? [06:08] Amber2, it is in extreme eraly stage right now [06:08] i downloaded it from the ubuntu daily build site [06:08] lol [06:08] Amber2, well you may well be running 11.04 [06:09] Amber2, but as far as finished release not until april 2011 [06:09] this one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ [06:09] Amber2, I am running natty 11.04 right now on this machine as well [06:09] I know and the alpha comes out tday [06:09] Amber2, yes that is the daily build [06:10] Amber2, it will change sometimes hourly [06:10] But my problem is that it wont load desktop session [06:10] Amber2, ah ok [06:10] only classic desktop [06:10] Amber2, mmm [06:10] Amber2, which video card are you running? [06:10] ATI Mobility HD 5470 [06:11] Amaranth, i would have assumed the driver for that was default install [06:11] Amaranth, sorry [06:11] Amber2, the driver for that was likely already installed [06:11] Yes it was. [06:11] Amber2, do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed [06:11] Amber2, so you have a gnome panel at the top? [06:11] Yea I do. [06:12] Amber2, is there one at the bottom? [06:12] yes [06:12] mmm [06:12] as you can see in the screesntho [06:12] shot* [06:12] Amber2, sorry i didnt see the link for your screenshot [06:13] so [06:13] when i boot into desktop session [06:13] the panel at the top doesnt load [06:13] nothing loads [06:13] only the icons, and i cant open them [06:14] Amber2, is this an install from the daily build ISO image? [06:14] from the DVD Image [06:14] yea the daily build [06:14] i installed it like 5 days ago [06:14] on sunday. [06:14] Amber2, ok and have you been updating it everyday? [06:15] i just did a dist-ipgrade [06:15] like an hour ago [06:15] mmm [06:15] Amber2, you did this in terminal yes? [06:15] yea [06:15] sudo apt-get update [06:15] Amber2, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [06:15] yea [06:16] thats what i did [06:16] Amaranth, run it one more time [06:16] damn [06:16] Amber2, run it one more time [06:16] It has never booted successfully into desktop session [06:16] well maybe once [06:16] once? [06:16] the first time [06:16] after the install [06:16] Amber2, this once you had only the top gnome panel and the side panel yes? [06:17] No [06:17] i had the top and bottom gnome panel [06:17] dist-upgrade didnt update anything [06:17] Amber2, let me get screenshotof mine and show you waht it should look like ...hold on [06:17] it hsould have Unity UI [06:18] Amber2, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/natty.png [06:19] ugh how come mine wont boot like that [06:19] im sure if i boot into desktop session [06:19] it will [06:19] but it wont boot into it [06:19] brb im gonna try again [06:19] ok [06:27] Amber2 here is the release schedule ...you can see how early the development stage is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule if it is not working right now.... it could be your install or the state of the project at this moment... Pre Alpha generally means no one should be trying to use it unless they want to participate in bug reporting or fixing issues.. or are advance enough to deal with some of the issue [06:27] s of a "pre alpha" distribution.. I am not trying to discourage you...but again if it is not working today ,.,,it may work tomorrow after sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [06:27] Amber1, that is for you ^^ [06:27] i took a screenshot of what happens when i boot into desktop session [06:27] ok [06:28] http://icanhasimage.com/images/ivg7530968x04w1w0z.png [06:28] where are my panels [06:28] :( [06:28] Amber1, i am moving over to my othere machine as coz_ [06:28] alright [06:28] mm [06:29] so yea http://icanhasimage.com/images/ivg7530968x04w1w0z.png [06:29] my panels are nowhere in sight [06:29] Amber1, on that link for the daily build ,,,which iso did you download and burn? [06:29] it was a 4gb iso [06:29] for my chip [06:29] 4 gig? [06:29] yea [06:29] and i loaded from DVD [06:29] let me look hold on [06:29] and then it installed [06:30] Amber1, was it a live cd [06:30] yes [06:30] Amber1, you are 64 bit or 32 bit? [06:30] 64 [06:30] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [06:31] Amber1, from there ^^ [06:31] No [06:31] not from there [06:32] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ [06:32] Amber1, are you able to download and burn another cd? [06:32] there === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [06:32] download the desktop cd/ [06:34] Amber1, if you can go to the first link and download the natty-desktop-amd64.iso at the top of the list is the md5sums..click on that fine the correct one for your download and when the iso is completely downloaded...open a terminal cd to it's location and typ e md5sum natty- and hit the tab button to complete the iso's name [06:34] make sure the numbers match perfectly [06:34] then burn it [06:34] i have it burned to a dvd [06:34] using my windows i used a program [06:34] and burned it [06:34] did maverick use grub2 as well? [06:34] Amber1, which program [06:34] but, it wont boot from that dvd [06:34] Astroburn [06:34] dan2, yes [06:35] Amaranth, mm [06:35] Amaranth, sorry again [06:35] i used it to burn like every dvd ever, it works fine [06:35] Amber1, I dont know that sofrware and it could have corrupted the burn [06:35] Amber1, ok [06:35] alright [06:35] grub2 is definitely broken [06:35] ill get a new dvd and burn it again [06:35] using the terminal [06:35] hold on [06:35] Amber1, i would rather you burn the live cd instead onto a dvd [06:36] the desktop cd? [06:36] the 4gb one? [06:36] Amber1, less download time therefor less chance of curruption [06:36] oh [06:36] Amber1, no the 723 megabyte one [06:36] i have the natty-desktop 723 one [06:36] for my intel chip [06:36] Amber1, is that also 64 bit [06:36] Amber1, you can install the 32 bit onto a 64 bit system [06:37] x86 [06:37] Amber1, remember this is all in testing stage [06:37] the first one on the daily build [06:37] but [06:37] i already have it all installed [06:37] why do i need to do this [06:37] Amber1, I have no idea why you are not getting the panels there [06:37] partitioned correctly, and installed [06:37] Ugh [06:37] alright [06:37] Amber1, other than when I have tired with other iso;s I got the same situation [06:38] it's dling [06:38] Amber1, i used the x86 iso onto a 64 bit system and now its' working [06:38] it says 20mins [06:38] nvm [06:38] 10 mins [06:38] Amber1, that's a good download time [06:38] Amber1, but check the md5sum on that download when its finished [06:38] where do i check? [06:38] Amber1, are you in linux or windows? [06:39] Linux [06:39] Amber1, ok on that link you are downloading from [06:39] Amber1, on the list at the top it says MD5SUMS [06:39] click that to get a list of the hashes [06:39] ok [06:39] yea [06:39] i have it open now [06:39] Amaranth, find the one that matches the iso you are downloading [06:40] then Amber1 when the iso is finished.... in the terminal cd to wherever you downloaded the iso to [06:40]