[01:08] quiet today / [01:09] yes i know [01:10] i have no smart question.i go to a other chat bye [01:18] hi [01:18] mah ubuntu broke [01:19] I turned it on, it gave me a list of booting options, windows, ubuntu something 22 and ubuntu something 23 [01:19] I tried both [01:19] 23 is a loading screen that never stops [01:19] and 22 ends up dying and going to shell [01:19] What do I do? O.o [01:23] I think it has something to do with wdm? [01:37] I typed up all relevant information I could find... When I boot it, I have a choice of ubuntu 2.6.35-23 or 2.6.35-22. 23 has a loading screen that cycles; if I press escape it shows a shell with a last message of "Starting WINGs display manager: wdm" then nothing happens. I tried it in recovery mode, nothing works. Ubuntu 10.10. What do I do? I remember that I changed a preference of which windows manager to use... that might be the problem? === bgs100 is now known as robot100 === JoeMaverickSett is now known as Guest22802 [02:59] paultag, poke [03:01] bodhizazen: hello [03:01] lo stlsaint [03:02] bodhizazen: paultag is too busy for us lowly folks, (hes been talking with THE GOOGLE!) [03:02] LOL [03:02] I put the finishing touches on my zen-koans [03:02] want to take it for a spin ? [03:04] sure [03:04] crap, i removed the original ones i had on there per your instructions lol [03:04] http://bodhizazen.net/adblock/zen-koans-1.0.tar.gz [03:04] on new package [03:04] try zen -abc [03:05] kk [03:05] it is in the README [03:05] zen -r [03:05] will give you a random theme and koan [03:06] I think I included 7 themes or so [03:10] heyya bodhizazen [03:11] brb as i set all up [03:22] bodhizazen: what is the big statue face? [03:24] buddha =) [03:25] oooohh right lol [03:26] bodhizazen: hey i tried three times and each time was the same koan [03:41] w/ -r ? [03:42] -a is "about" , first koan [03:55] oh yea i figured it out from the readme, [03:56] =) [03:56] is the readme sufficient ? [03:57] oh yea [03:59] bodhizazen: work great man, im heading to bed ;) === karthick is now known as karthick87 === Geo|wrk is now known as MrAnthrope [04:40] Hello, I'm looking to get some help getting a Dell Inspiron 1440 laptop's wireless adapter working in Maverick Meerkat. I've tried using the Additional Drivers wizard, but it gives me an error saying "SystemError: installArchives() failed" [04:50] Is anyone here to help? [04:53] Hello Nisorin, sometimes it takes a little while for people to respond. [04:53] Ah, apologies. [04:53] No worries! :D [04:53] If you give me a second, I'll be able to help [04:53] Thanks. [05:04] Nisorin: http://goo.gl/Gd2dZ - This is from 9.10, but it should still work for you. [05:04] !wireless [05:04] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [05:04] HAHA! [05:04] It's alive!!!! [05:04] I don't think you need to do the Livecd part though, you just need to run the update and install [05:04] zkriesse: hello. [05:04] I always forget about ubot2 [05:04] tenach: wazzup dude [05:05] hehehe [05:05] * zkriesse is feeling better finally [05:05] Awesome to read, zkriesse (let's move to the offtopic channel) [05:05] +zkriesse +tenach lol, I'll give it a try. I'll let you guys know how it goes. [05:05] Nisorin: alrighty. [05:06] Nisorin: roger that [05:09] +tenach +zkriesse When I did the first line of terminal code in the first link, it gave me a huge list of errors. [05:11] Looks like it can't resolve the 'linux.dropbox.com', 'extras.ubuntu.com', security.ubuntu.com', or 'us.archive.ubuntu.com.' I'm getting the impression that thread's post requires an internet connection on the laptop, which is not available right now. [05:12] lol that's a big assumption. [05:12] Any way you can find a hard port for a tick? [05:12] Hard port for a tick? [05:13] lol. Can you find a cable to plug in for a moment? [05:14] For "teh internets" [05:14] It's just wireless not working, right? If you plug it in your internet works? [05:15] We don't have any ethernet cables, so I have not been able to try. [05:15] We're running entirely wirelessly. [05:15] Gah. [05:15] * Nisorin didn't have this problem in Mint. [05:16] Nisorin: the wireless router has to connect to something, no? [05:16] Modem's built into the router. [05:17] so no cables ANYWHERE? [05:17] that's...fun [05:18] Just the power plug, and the coaxial cable coming in from the wall. [05:18] you could download the files on another computer and transfer them over? [05:18] Any idea where to get the files? I've got a flash drive. [05:19] that might be more in a tenach or zkriesse field, but you should be able to get them somewhere [05:20] Alright. The only other thing I'm worried about, and stated above, was that when I go to use the Additional Drivers wizard, it gets to nearly complete before a message box pops up saying: "SystemError: installArchives() failed." [05:20] Synaptic? [05:21] coaxial [05:21] huh, im getting weird feelings [05:22] ? [05:22] de ja vu weird feelings/ [05:22] ? [05:22] these makes me feel akward, i know now, this is me remembering the 90s and lan at my friends home when we played games [05:22] :) [05:22] ive seen tokenrings mainly nowdays, but no coaxial [05:24] bioterror: I think Nisorin is referring to cable internet coming in [05:24] vs coaxial networking per se [05:24] Nisorin: Look on this site: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/net/ for the package [05:26] Thanks Tenach. [05:26] No problem. [05:27] thanks tenach, I wasn't sure where [05:27] Cheri703: Any time :D [05:28] * MrAnthrope is downloading gnome-do :D [05:28] :D [05:29] I'm having an... aesthetic problem with an icon theme I installed. It replaced the Ubuntu icon in the upper left hand corner on the panel by Applications with a dumb 'e'. [05:29] Can't find it on the list. Only thing mentioning Broadcom is for an ethernet adapter. [05:29] I've tried to change it but it doesn't change. [05:30] Nisorin: okay [05:30] The Additional Drivers wizard says it's the Broadcom STA Wireless Driver. [05:31] ok. [05:35] Nisorin: I'm having trouble finding a way to fix this without an internet connection. Everywhere assumes that you can just plug into the internet via an ethernet cable. :/ [05:36] Ouch. Sounds like I'll have to go out and buy one. [05:40] Nisorin: Unless you want to figure out every package and dependency, that might be the quicker of ways. The average price (around my area at least) is ~$5-15 USD depending on the length needed. [05:42] or just borrow one from someone [05:43] many people have some laying around, or go to a friend's house and connect [05:43] It's nearly one in the morning, everyone I'd know that would have one is asleep. [05:44] Ahh, haha. [05:44] Yeah, Cheri703 is right. [05:44] * tenach is one of those people that always has 10+ of varying sizes, both crossover and pass-through [05:44] same here [05:45] Actually, old roommate left his old xbox stuff here, wonder if his old cable's with it. [05:45] possible [05:46] Yay! It's a good 15 footer. [05:46] Hooking the laptop up now. [05:48] sweet! [05:48] that will make life easier [05:49] Sweet. [05:49] -.- Doesn't want to take an IP address. [05:50] do you know what ip range your household has? 192.168.1.? or 192.168.10.? or? [05:50] you can probably just toss a number on there. how many other computers are there currently on the network? [05:51] Right now, 5. One computer, two smartphones, a PSP and a Wii. [05:52] hmm...ok [05:52] can you check the ip on one of the other computers? just to check the config info? [05:52] i.e. ip, subnet mask, gateway [05:52] Sure. Post 'em? [05:54] How do I check my own mac address? [05:54] IP: 192.168.1.5 [05:54] I need to mac filter my router. The neighbors are leeching. [05:54] Subnet: 255.255.255.0 [05:54] Gateway would be the Default Router? [05:55] Anthrope, most routers have Attached Devices lists, it'll have the address there. [05:55] yeah Nisorin [05:55] Oh I'm retarded my hostname is my name lol xD [05:55] Gateway is 192.168.1.1 [05:55] ok, so Nisorin give the laptop an ip of 192.168.1.150 or something, should be fine without conflict [05:56] and put in the other info [05:56] Under IPv4 or IPv6? [05:56] IPv4 [05:59] ipv6 has way different format, just saying [06:02] :/ I miss using Linux. Every time I right click or press the 'del' key, explorer.exe crashes (win2000). It's making it hard to build a liveusb so I can install linux on this old hunk of hardware. [06:03] ha [06:03] that sucks [06:03] I think I might like Ubuntu 10.04.1. [06:03] that's what I'm using [06:04] I've been trying to use ubuntu on and off for about 5 years. [06:04] This is most def. the best version yet. [06:05] I've been using Ubuntu 100% since 7.04 and I must agree with you there. [06:06] This version is very newbie friendly. I didn't have to open the terminal until I wanted to get rid of the splash screen. And only then because I didn't like any of the replacement screens and just wanted black. [06:06] I just made the resolution out of range for my monitor lol. [06:06] Hahahaha [06:07] I have an NVidia graphics card and for some reason it really messed up the splash screen. [06:07] I skipped 10.04 due to NVidia and amd/ati issues I was having. [06:07] stayed at 9.10 then went to 10.10 [06:08] Everyone is upset that I went with 10.04 and not 10.10 but didn't 10.10 JUST get released? Is that smart for an ubuntu newb to go with the most unstable version? lol [06:09] It's most definitely good to stay with an LTS (a xx.04 build) for a newb, since it doesn't radically change. Found that out the hard way with 8.10 [06:09] 10.04 made my ati card work perfectly, 10.10 broke it completely [06:09] ha [06:10] Not that it would kill me to completely re-install. I have ubuntu on its own 20gb partition. [06:10] How hard is it to upgrade 10.04.1 to 10.10? [06:11] 1 command does a distribution upgrade from 10.4 to 10.10 [06:11] Oh nice. Not counting the aftermath? lol [06:11] That was my argument. LTS FTW. [06:13] 10.10 broke things, so I went back [06:13] both of my computers are on 10.04.1 [06:14] When you say 'went back', what kind of process is that? Complete format and re-install of 10.04.1? [06:14] for me it was [06:14] not too bad though, backed up a lot of stuff [06:14] just moved it over after reinstall [06:16] Does Ubuntu have virtual disc drive programs? [06:17] dvd emulators. [06:17] linux has a "mounting" feature, so i know it can "mount" iso files and think of them as dvd's but i can't go beyond that with it [06:17] Sweet. [06:23] MrAnthrope: it's something like (in a terminal) mount nameofiso.iso /path/to/mount/to -t iso9600 -o loop [06:24] then you can access everything as if you'd put a disc in [06:24] path would be like... D:/ ? [06:24] or right click and choose "mount" [06:24] :) [06:24] what's all the -t iso9600 -o loop about? [06:25] the windows drive letters dont exist in linux file systems [06:26] I need a good .pdf manual for how to use the terminal heh. [06:26] That is telling it that you are mounting an iso (iso9600) and to keep it mounted (loop) [06:26] My use of the terminal consists of typing what people tell me to and pasting the results. [06:27] you can learn some of the command line with the command "man ls" which shows the manual for the command ls [06:27] some commands are strait forward, some require careful thought and switches...for example "ls" is different than "ls -al" but both are the same command [06:28] MrAnthrope: you might try clicompanion [06:28] it gives explanations of some of the common commands [06:28] clicompanion is a pretty nifty way to learn your way around the terminal [06:29] I'm gradually getting more comfortable with terminal, but I rely heavily on the gui things [06:29] Which is why 10.04 is so great. [06:29] I'm so glad that I learned as much as I did about the terminal when I did, 'cause now I'm adminsitrating an ubuntu server, cli only. [06:30] And it's still a crash course in learning commands. [06:30] I completely understand how the terminal is so much better than a GUI but you don't have to 'learn a gui'. It takes time to learn a CLI lol. [06:30] I would really like to set up an ubuntu server for my brother's concrete business. They pay a guy 200 bucks a month and he does jack for them. [06:30] the command line is your direct line to telling your OS or a program exactly what you want it to do, thats part of why i really love linux. [06:31] And it's windows server 2000 so I can't help either. [06:32] MrAnthrope: I don't even charge that much and I provide services along with my hosting... [06:32] But, that's off topic. :) [06:32] Heh sorry I'm kinda leading the room astray. [06:33] MrAnthrope: no problem. :) [06:33] If you wanna talk with us offtopic, you're welcome to join #ubuntu-beginners-team [06:34] That's our off topic channel [06:36] What is a symbolic link? A shortcut? [06:39] i refuse to use symbolic links because they would only exsist on the 1 drive that it was created..and it is kinda like a shortcut [06:42] why don't you like symlinks gnumerous ? [06:42] I use them to keep my data stored on one hard drive, but linked to the Documents/downloads/pictures/etc files in the home folder [06:44] i wouldn't wanna develop a dependance on a custom thing...i prefer to not confuse myself should i use other computers (i have 2 boxes and wouldnt want to remember custom folder links) [06:46] I only use them for the home folders, and I have both of mine set up the same way :) I try to keep a consistent naming scheme as well, for other files === MrAnthrope is now known as Geo|zzz [07:15] I use symlinks only when I'm doing webserver related tasks [07:19] or when you have a specific library installed with like libfoo.so.1 and software required libfoo.so.0 ;) [07:19] reuquires [07:20] aye. [07:20] yeah the zombie that refuses to die, returns! ;) [08:10] hello nit-wit [08:10] hobgoblin, hey hows it going [08:11] pretty good ty - day off work to look after little one - school shut due to 4" snow - no idea how we manage to come to a grinding halt in the south of england ... [08:11] but a day off is always welcome :) [08:12] hobgoblin, I didn't know where you were located [08:43] hey folks - I just upgraded to the latest kernel -23 and had some troubles so I rebooted back to -22 [08:43] use the 22 if it works [08:44] making a bug report would be nice [08:44] upon doing so I got a msg stating that xserver does not support my monitor and couldn't handle the requested size [08:44] I'm on a gateway 7330gz laptop - I never had any probs with my screen before [08:45] bioterror! the 22 worked fine until I down booted into it - strange, huh? [08:45] go to recovery and fix the X? [08:46] I am not so technically aware as to be able to do that - I don't really know what X is (except find for X in HS algebra) [08:46] !x11 [08:46] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [08:47] OK! great starts - I'll check them out right now. Appreciate the help [08:48] np [08:48] beachbuddah: it would help to know what graphics card you have [08:48] 1 sec [08:49] beachbuddah@beachbuddah:~$ lspci | grep VGA [08:49] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) [08:50] hobgoblin! Is that what you needed? [08:51] it is but doesn't help me much lol [08:52] :D [08:52] have you tried the recovery X fix option yet - I see bioterror mentioned it [08:52] hahaha I found awesome reply to someones problem with that chipset [08:52] "Get rid of your Intel card. Save the money because stealing isn't nice. Then the problem will go away. Don't fight this one. The Intel card is a disaster. (I now use a nvidia gigabyte geforce 210. It's fine. I used to have a 945G Intel chipset)." [08:52] simple enough to do - second line in the menu list goes to a small menu - one option is fix X [08:53] am about to now [08:53] lol - that post is a goodie - I'm not sure a 5 yr old laptop is worth the price of a new vid card, though [08:53] you could also check while there if you have a xorg.conf [08:54] actually, every graphics driver seems to suck [08:55] it's really challenging to find a laptop with chipset that's least worse [08:57] sorry about the abrupt departure - apparently that command causes a reboot as well as a command to X [09:02] beachbuddah: so what did you actually do so far? [09:03] so I tell it xrandr like the wiki says and I get the following [09:03] xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default [09:03] Screen 0: minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768 [09:03] default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm [09:03] 1024x768 0.0* [09:03] Initially I tried: [09:03] « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » [09:04] and did a quick reboot with no change in the monitor resolution [09:04] but did you boot and choose from grub recovery mode? [09:04] and from recovery you chose Fix X [09:05] oops - missed that part in the process - excuse me whilst I reboot into recovery and try to Fix X [09:05] like "Recover broken X configuration". [09:06] well, godspeed beachbuddah :D [09:13] bioterror! [09:13] beachbuddah! [09:13] * bioterror rules * [09:13] in a straight line? [09:13] I followed your suggestions and find myself with a full size screen once again [09:14] ofcourse [09:14] lol [09:14] you're welcome [09:14] yes - tyvm [09:14] still though 'xrandr' fails to get gamma output [09:15] do you think the fix will last if I have to reboot or will I find myself going in through the recovery process? [09:16] beachbuddah, I bet you and me knows how we can find out that thing [09:16] there's only one solution to find it out [09:16] you're right - took me a sec but I gotcha [09:16] brb [09:16] ahh, there he goes once again [09:21] :) [09:22] seems to take a while to boot [09:22] bioterror! [09:22] hobgoblin! [09:22] beachbuddah! [09:22] hobgoblin! [09:23] is this like in reservoir dogs at the ending [09:23] we are standing against each other :D [09:23] The good news is I rebooted into -22 with a full size screen [09:23] yes Mr Green [09:23] :D [09:23] can you boot to -23? :D [09:24] or what was the problem with -23 [09:24] I always could - with no resolution problem [09:24] it was my internet connectivity [09:24] okay [09:24] well [09:24] I completely lost awareness of my eth0 connection [09:25] report a bug at launchpad.net (you need to create an account) and tell them your network card and more about the problem [09:25] or you can search if there's a report already and sign that it concerns you too [09:25] OK - I have a launchpad acct [09:27] lspci |grep Network [09:28] gives your network card [09:28] oddly enough in -22 I have lost the little network manager applet that tells me I am connected to the internet [09:28] broadcom 4312 [09:28] beachbuddah, alt+f2 and nm-applet [09:28] I know - extremely unreliable [09:29] nope - the bar quivers for a second but it doesn't appear [09:30] and here's something - when I go to network connections it tells me that neither my eth0 or my wireless connection have ever been used [09:31] So have I achieved enlightenment and no longer need wires to connect to the web? [09:31] it's normal [09:31] :D [09:31] which is normal [09:31] ? [09:32] "never used" [09:32] ah - ok [09:32] I'm using cale now at this place and it says "Auto eth0 never" :D [09:32] go figure [09:32] with wireless 16 days ago, 1month ago and never [09:32] and that never I used last time yesterday [09:33] so [09:33] it seems there are certain issues yet to be completely solved by the magical Ubuntu developers [09:59] hi again [09:59] any idea how to determine what driver is in place for my eth0 connection? [10:26] problem solved ;) [12:56] need help while fixing the grub [12:57] !details | genupulas [12:57] genupulas: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [12:58] genupulas, come here and ask [12:59] i have installed windows by replacing the kubuntu part [12:59] i had ubunut in my system [13:00] ubuntu in my system ....but grub crashed .so how can i reach my ubuntu [13:00] AbhiJit: ^^^ [13:00] grub is not crashed [13:00] win has onverwritten mbr [13:00] !fixgrub | genupulas follow this [13:00] genupulas follow this: GRUB is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [13:01] genupulas, m busy atm. please ask someone else [13:01] Puck`: ping [13:01] genupulas: pong [13:02] Puck`: root@ubuntu:~# fixgrub fixgrub: command not found [13:02] I never knew of such a command [13:03] genupulas: update-grub ? [13:03] Puck`: lemme [13:06] Puck`: look at this ....http://pastebin.com/MLgs4ESx [13:06] Puck`: was it sounds positive [13:07] genupulas: read the area that sais Using Ubuntu 9.10 please on http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7 [13:51] hi === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:58] AbhiJit: hi [13:59] geekosopher, hello [13:59] duanedesign: 0/ [14:23] geekosopher: o/ [14:23] :) [14:23] duanedesign: guess you already know about http://news.debian.net/2010/11/30/training-session-on-python-packaging/ [14:24] oh, it's today! :) [14:24] I'll try to attend [14:25] geekosopher: awesome! thank you [14:25] its way past midnight for me... So I guess I will be reading the logs [14:25] duanedesign: never mention it [14:26] well [14:26] nobody on #debian-men [14:26] hehe lol [14:26] lets start that channel! [14:26] i need to add that RSS feed to my feed aggregator [14:28] geekosopher, I'll be there waiting! [14:29] I wonder if ubuntu-men exists [14:29] duanedesign: I wanted to wet my feet in packaging waters... and your project (clicompanion) seemed comfortable for me... could you help me learn packaging it for ubuntu as well as debian and may be co-maintain it? [14:29] it redirects to ##unavailable [14:30] pedro3005: I am there [14:30] geekosopher: absolutely [14:31] geekosopher, I don't see you.. #debian-men in irc.debian.org ? [14:31] i had a channel #I<3Barney for awhile [14:31] but no one ever showed up :) [14:31] cant imagine why [14:32] duanedesign: I guess you answered your own question ;) [14:33] :D [14:34] duanedesign: I am a bit pre-occupied today... will mail you with my queries later :) [14:34] * duanedesign nods [15:42] hi folks [15:42] 'lo beachbuddah [15:42] namaste bodhi [15:43] could you or anyone tell me how to permanently rollback to the previous (-22) kernel rather than the latest? [15:44] When you boot, the old kernel should be on the list of options, in grub [15:44] remove the 23 with apt-get remove [15:44] boot the old kernel [15:44] and freeze it [15:44] remove the new kernel [15:45] and put the kernel "on hold" [15:45] beachbuddah: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=240 [15:45] OK! I'll give that a try. [15:46] bodhizazen! thanks for the link I'll check it out before I start putting kernels on hold [15:47] NP [15:51] says to reboot - brb (I hope) === MichealH is now known as Guest92515 [15:57] bodhizazen! It worked, though I removed rather than placed on hold the kernel [15:57] bioterror! do you ever sleep? [15:58] beachbuddah: bioterror is not human === Guest92515 is now known as MichealH [15:58] beachbuddah: put the kernel on hold, then it will not update when you apt-get upgrade [15:58] beachbuddah: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=240 [15:59] bodhizazen! so right you are - I am a foolish n00b [15:59] and you hobgoblin are? [15:59] no, you are learning is all [16:00]