[00:16] <elky> KB1JWQ, kindly kline your co-staffer kthx :P
[00:17] <KB1JWQ> elky: They're building a new boardwalk by his house, unfortunately.
[00:17] <KB1JWQ> -!- niko [~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by pier
[00:17] <elky> lol
[00:17]  * rww groans
[00:17] <elky> rww, you take the head, i'll get the legs.
[00:18]  * elky and rww throw KB1JWQ in to the Bad Jokes pile.
[01:13] <elky> who is totem?
[01:15]  * rww tries to remember the person who named themself after random applications
[01:16] <elky> 4chan invented words now?
[01:16] <elky> rww, asus guy? that was after hardware
[01:17] <IdleOne> that is the caliber of users they have
[01:17] <IdleOne> they invent words
[01:18] <elky> they did not invent the word "fag".
[01:18] <IdleOne> elky: I forgot to </sarcasm>
[01:18] <elky> or invent the usage of adding it to another word to make it a pejorative.
[04:23] <charlie-tca> Did I get it right? Need to change maverick to natty in !final
[04:24] <rww> it should be !no, final is <reply> If..., but apart from that it looks fine :)
[04:24] <nhandler> charlie-tca: I think it would still be best to have it as the latest stable release (which is a variable). People can still upgrade to maverick (but natty final isn't out yet)
[04:28] <charlie-tca> but maverick doesn't have alpha/beta/rc anymore. Natty alpha1 is out tomorrow, thus the questions of whether or not it has to be reinstalled
[04:29] <IdleOne> charlie-tca: if the user has to ask about how to upgrade to Alpha 1, maybe they shouldn't be running it
[04:29] <rww> . !final's generally used in #ubuntu to answer "I've been running pre-release versions of $newlyreleasedversion, do I need to reinstall?
[04:30] <rww> though i guess it works for alphas/betas/etc. too, except for the factoid's name
[04:30] <IdleOne> I am a firm believer that if you are not prepared to have a system that does not boot and if you don't keep a stable release cd on your desk. You should not be running +1
[04:32] <charlie-tca> that too, IdleOne
[04:33] <charlie-tca> This is why I only suggest factoid changes. I am happy with whatever it says in the end
[06:54] <jussi> !final
[06:56] <jussi> Hrm, is that really supposed to be $curStable ?
[06:56] <jussi> !forget ff35
[06:57] <jussi> !forget firefox-3.5
[06:57] <rww> jussi: in !final? yes, because we use it just after release
[07:13] <rww> ... and that's why you check you put four exempts on a line before pressing enter *facepalm*
[07:16] <rww> Did I change anything in #ubuntu other than +f that ChanServ didn't undo?
[07:17] <cdbs> rww: no
[07:18] <rww> thanks
[07:26] <jussi> rww: fail :P  but looks like all is ok now :)
[07:26] <jussi> cdbs: it'd be nice if you just kept one recognisable nick...
[07:26] <rww> In case anyone was wondering, if you put too /few/ on a line, it just shows you the list of current exempts.
[07:26] <rww> jussi: I like this one better, so hush ;P
[07:27] <jussi> lol
[07:27] <cdbs> jussi: this would be my permanent one :)
[07:27] <rww> \o/
[07:27] <jussi> as long as he stays with it I dont care :D
[07:27] <cdbs> I know switching nicks is a tough job
[07:27] <cdbs> but I also knew the downside of nick bilalakhtar
[07:27] <cdbs> Almost everyone typo-ed it
[07:28] <cdbs> Some typed it bilalakthar, some bilalahktar
[07:28] <cdbs> Only those who used tab completion typed it correctly
[07:28] <rww> you had the distinction of being in the short list of people I refer to as their first few letters, followed by <tab>
[07:29] <jussi> rww: like cz<tab> ? :D
[07:29] <rww> exactly :D
[07:29] <jussi> (there were people actually calling her that at UDS brussels :P )
[07:30] <rww> Anyways, I think I fixed the floodbots banning MrUnagi. For future reference of everyone, the 'unblock' command in -ops-monitor takes a hostname as an argument (e.g. fnord-123-456-789-101-dialup.aol.com) instead of something like *!*@somehostname
[07:32] <rww> also, if y'all want -proxy-user banforwards removing after N days, let me know and I'll deal with them when I get bored and clean up exempts ;P
[07:33] <cdbs> When I remotely attended UDS sessions and put a point ot the room, ted was like: Okay, I don't have any idea how to pronounce your nick (laughs from the audience) its B I L.. Okay, so ............"
[07:34] <cdbs> jussi: and you are talking about czajkowski?
[07:34] <jussi> yes
[07:36]  * jussi didnt think we were using proxy-users anymore 
[07:36] <rww> cztab is pronouncible, too. It has the slight disadvantage that I don't think she likes it >.>
[07:36] <jussi> I just say Laura :P
[07:36] <rww> jussi: people on open proxies get banforwarded there, presumably for the "there are better ways to be anonymous!" speech
[07:37] <cdbs> jussi: you attend UDS? see me at the next one :)
[07:37] <jussi> rww: ahh, thats right, we changed the webchat but not the other stuf
[07:37] <jussi> cdbs: lets see if I go.
[07:37]  * jussi has been to the last 3
[07:37] <cdbs> Even orlando?
[07:37] <rww> I might go to the next USA one. depends on where it is and whether I'm doing anything Ubuntuy at the time :|
[07:38] <cdbs> How d'you know it will be in the US?
[07:38] <jussi> cdbs: they alternate EU and usa
[07:38] <jussi> cdbs: I was there
[07:38] <cdbs> Why not outside EU and US?
[07:38] <jussi> cdbs: the next USA one will be in orlando
[07:38] <cdbs> lol
[07:39] <cdbs> the orlando one is over :)
[07:39] <jussi> no, I mean it
[07:39] <jussi> they have booked it again
[07:39] <cdbs> wow!
[07:39] <rww> that good, huh?
[07:39] <jussi> anyway, lets head to -offtopic for this discussion
[07:39] <jussi> rww: it was the ideal venue
[07:44] <elky> Oh that's awesome.
[07:45] <jussi> elky: ?
[07:45] <elky> the orlando thing
[07:45] <jussi> elky: you didnt know?
[07:45] <elky> i've been mostly off grid the past week
[07:45] <jussi> ahh, they told us at UDS
[07:46]  * elky is in the eastern-most state ;)
[07:46] <elky> jussi, i didn't hear it, no
[07:46] <jussi> but it was a good venue :)
[07:46] <rww> elky: I failed to parse that use of "awesome" for sarcasm or lack of sarcasm >.>
[07:46] <elky> i knew they were thrilled, and it was a great venue, but i didn't know they'd gone as far as booking
[07:46] <jussi> yeah, I had to guess a bit there
[07:46] <elky> anyway, i need to clear the office before someone sets the alarms
[07:47] <elky> nobody's given me a swipe card o.O
[07:47] <rww> I find that it's funner to do it after. Time trial!
[07:48] <jussi> elky: Ive a leftover one from orlando you can have :D
[07:49] <jussi> its funny, I seem to have a collection of swipe cards from different hotels
[07:51] <Flannel> jussi: Extras come in handy when you need to use one to turn lights on in your hotel room! (I have no idea if they even do this anymore)
[07:51] <rww> or clone credit cards
[07:51] <rww> i mean... yes. lights.
[07:51] <jussi> Flannel: any creditcard sized card does that
[07:51] <Flannel> jussi: Right, but old door key are nice, and meaningless if you lose
[07:52] <jussi> yeah, true
[07:52] <Flannel> (and by lose, I mean forget in the room)
[07:52] <Flannel> I don't like putting my room key for *that* room in there, because then I walk outside..... and... am locked out!
[07:52] <jussi> Flannel: ++
[07:52] <Flannel> it's safer to keep on my person at all times
[07:52] <Flannel> pocket... door... pocket
[07:54] <rww> I got into the habit of keeping them in my wallet. Now that I have an actual door key (that you put in a lock and turn), I still keep it in my wallet.
[07:55] <Flannel> rww: They have wallets with key rings in them, maybe I'll get you one for christmas.
[08:03] <melissa> oh stupid xchat
[08:12] <Myrtti> dwoop
[09:55] <Myrtti> interesting
[09:57] <maco> quieted fastocr in #ubuntu for talking about bestiality...sent coc & guidelines factoids...and got a PM attempting to send me a factoid about male anatomy in response... so now he gets a ban
[09:58] <Myrtti> ikonia: he's been asking questions basically how to make a respin of his own for a good hour now, he seems not to read any responses he gets
[09:58] <ikonia> soon put a stop to it
[10:06] <Myrtti> so much for that
[10:30] <cdbs> Just to make a comment I had to change my nick
[10:30] <cdbs> jussi: I cannot login to Ubottu with this nick, though its registered to the same account
[11:02] <ts2> cdbs: I've added *!*@ubuntu/member/bilalakhtar to your user, the bot should recognise you without @login as long as you have your cloak
[11:02] <cdbs> ts2: oh good
[11:03] <cdbs> in any case I am not going to let that cloak go
[11:03] <cdbs> so this is a good idea
[11:21] <jpds> Hmm, so I used cdbs to package my latest package.
[11:21] <cdbs> lol
[11:32]  * Myrtti raises eyebrows at abusado
[11:35] <jpds> Myrtti: Abused in Spanish.
[11:35] <Myrtti> jpds: his ident doesn't lower my suspicions
[14:06] <Myrtti> I may just smack someone soon
[14:06] <Pici> Myrtti: so soon?
[14:08] <Pici> How does this look?
[14:08] <Pici> !plymouth
[14:21] <Myrtti> hrm
[14:26] <Pici> meh
[14:27] <Myrtti> I've ran out of alphabet blocks, crayons and modelling clay
[14:27] <Myrtti> jijojohn :-<
[14:29] <Myrtti> bets taken in on will he ask how to join that channel
[14:57] <blockcold> hello
[14:57] <LjL> hi
[14:57] <blockcold> sorry for behavior in ubuntu cahnnle
[14:57] <blockcold> ikonia: banned me there for trolling
[14:58] <blockcold> i accept my apology plz unbanned me in ubuntu :)
[14:58] <LjL> uhm, even if you're unbanned, i don't think you can join ubuntu from bshellz
[14:58] <blockcold> ok but plz forgotmy trolling there
[14:59] <blockcold> *forget
[14:59] <blockcold> i never do trolling agian :)
[14:59] <Pici> blockcold: We have been through this so many times that I've lost count.
[15:00] <blockcold> Pici: sorry i don't come there but at least i have apology
[15:00] <charlie-tca> This probably reflects also:
[15:00] <charlie-tca> * blockcold (blockcold@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-syztvnybarwkkbjw) has joined #xubuntu
 bazhang: :P
[15:00] <charlie-tca> * blockcold (blockcold@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-syztvnybarwkkbjw) has left #xubuntu
[15:00] <Pici> charlie-tca: thank you.
[15:01] <blockcold> hey
[15:01] <blockcold> plz i never do troll agian but at least give the pass to ubuntu channles
[15:01] <blockcold> atleat i can see ppls problem and the remedy by ubuntu experts
[15:01] <blockcold> give me last chace SIR
[15:02] <blockcold> *chance
[15:02] <blockcold> charlie-tca: ok i was there :)
[15:02] <blockcold> guys plz :)
[15:02] <Pici> blockcold: You've already been given multiple chances.  And you've messed up every single time.  And this little bit of annoyingness in #xubuntu tells me that you haven't changed.
[15:03] <blockcold> i don't write any word at there but plz i want to see the questions :)
[15:03] <Pici> blockcold: You can read our logs then.
[15:03] <LjL> !logs
[15:03] <blockcold> :( ok but i can come here in ubuntu butnot chat there ?
[15:04] <Pici> blockcold: 'here' as in #ubuntu-ops ?
[15:04] <blockcold> love u guys give me one chance
[15:04] <blockcold> nope ubuntu only and ubuntu-in
[15:04] <blockcold> plzzz pici
[15:04] <Pici> blockcold: You've already gotten your chances.
[15:05] <blockcold> pici pice plz i never write a single word there but i want to see ppls problems :)
[15:05] <Pici> blockcold: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ There you go.
[15:06] <blockcold> omg
[15:07] <blockcold> ok bye :P
[15:07] <blockcold> but i am not going i come here with another identity
[15:07] <blockcold> ;)
[15:07] <LjL> ban evading is against freenode policy
[15:07] <LjL> i recommend you do not do that
[15:07] <blockcold> heheheh change ip then no body know me
[15:07] <blockcold> kekekez
[15:08]  * LjL shrugs
[15:08] <blockcold> should i leave ?
[15:08] <popey> chances of getting unbanned diminishing towards zero now.
[15:08] <LjL> yes if you have nothing else to ask please leave here
[15:08] <blockcold> Pici: plz unbanned me
[15:08] <blockcold> i don't want to that :(
[15:09] <Myrtti> may I?
[15:09] <LjL> blockcold, Pici has clearly made up his mind
[15:09] <LjL> it's no use insisting more
[15:09] <blockcold> Pici: sorry :)
[15:09] <blockcold> sorry guys:)
[15:09] <blockcold> ok i nevercome there
[15:09] <blockcold> :)
[15:10] <blockcold> bye
[15:10] <LjL> bye
[15:10] <Pici> Bye.
[15:10] <Pici> @mark blockcold
[15:10] <LjL> Pici: is it right that bshellz is banned? and without a forward to -proxy-users at that
[15:10] <LjL> Pici: they actually seem to have identd running
[15:10] <Pici> LjL: Its something that we're working on identifying the best way to deal with them.
[15:11] <Pici> Also, that was jungli, who has had more chances than I'd care to mention.
[15:11] <LjL> ha
[15:12] <LjL> anyway i think the ban should really be to -proxy-users in the meanwhile, why puzzle people who try to join?
[15:12] <Pici> And regarding letting him sit there muted, I don't really want him harrasing our users.
[15:47]  * Myrtti raises an eyebrow at router_mapper 
[15:52] <Myrtti> oh gosh, I've forgotten how to search stuff from the bantracker
[15:57] <Myrtti> http://www.google.com/search?q=When+a+constant+scale+factor+is+used+for+these+routes,+the+shorter+roads+shrink+to+a+point+and+essentially+vanish.
[16:56] <Myrtti> so much for the promises
[17:10] <ikonia> keep an eye out for 122.162.254.177
[17:10] <ikonia> that's jungli's current uncloaked ip
[17:31] <guest101010> what if i got banned on a efnet channel?
[17:32] <ts2> what about it?
[17:32] <ikonia> sorry, thats not something we can help with
[17:32] <Myrtti> then you'd discuss the ban with the relevant operators of the channel you were banned in
[17:33] <guest101010> they don't reply ofcourse
[17:33] <Myrtti> :-(
[17:33] <guest101010> yeah
[17:33] <guest101010> the ban was really unfair
[17:33] <ikonia> sorry, but it's not something we can deal with
[17:33] <ts2> in any case, we can't help with that
[17:33] <guest101010> no, i see
[17:34] <guest101010> thanks anyway
[17:37] <Myrtti> guest101010: anything else we can help you with?
[17:38] <guest101010> hmm
[17:38] <guest101010> no
[17:38] <guest101010> sorry
[17:38] <guest101010> bye :p
[17:38] <Myrtti> byebye