[00:16] KB1JWQ, kindly kline your co-staffer kthx :P [00:17] elky: They're building a new boardwalk by his house, unfortunately. [00:17] -!- niko [~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by pier [00:17] lol [00:17] * rww groans [00:17] rww, you take the head, i'll get the legs. [00:18] * elky and rww throw KB1JWQ in to the Bad Jokes pile. [01:13] who is totem? [01:15] * rww tries to remember the person who named themself after random applications [01:16] 4chan invented words now? [01:16] rww, asus guy? that was after hardware [01:17] that is the caliber of users they have [01:17] they invent words [01:18] they did not invent the word "fag". [01:18] elky: I forgot to [01:18] or invent the usage of adding it to another word to make it a pejorative. [04:22] In #ubuntu+1, charlie-tca said: !no, final is If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Natty Narwhal and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Natty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [04:23] Did I get it right? Need to change maverick to natty in !final [04:24] it should be !no, final is If..., but apart from that it looks fine :) [04:24] charlie-tca: I think it would still be best to have it as the latest stable release (which is a variable). People can still upgrade to maverick (but natty final isn't out yet) [04:28] but maverick doesn't have alpha/beta/rc anymore. Natty alpha1 is out tomorrow, thus the questions of whether or not it has to be reinstalled [04:29] charlie-tca: if the user has to ask about how to upgrade to Alpha 1, maybe they shouldn't be running it [04:29] . !final's generally used in #ubuntu to answer "I've been running pre-release versions of $newlyreleasedversion, do I need to reinstall? [04:30] though i guess it works for alphas/betas/etc. too, except for the factoid's name [04:30] I am a firm believer that if you are not prepared to have a system that does not boot and if you don't keep a stable release cd on your desk. You should not be running +1 [04:32] that too, IdleOne [04:33] This is why I only suggest factoid changes. I am happy with whatever it says in the end === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [06:54] !final [06:54] If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Maverick Meerkat and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Maverick. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [06:56] Hrm, is that really supposed to be $curStable ? [06:56] !forget ff35 [06:56] I'll forget that, jussi [06:57] !forget firefox-3.5 [06:57] jussi: in !final? yes, because we use it just after release [07:13] ... and that's why you check you put four exempts on a line before pressing enter *facepalm* [07:16] Did I change anything in #ubuntu other than +f that ChanServ didn't undo? [07:17] rww: no [07:18] thanks [07:26] rww: fail :P but looks like all is ok now :) [07:26] cdbs: it'd be nice if you just kept one recognisable nick... [07:26] In case anyone was wondering, if you put too /few/ on a line, it just shows you the list of current exempts. [07:26] jussi: I like this one better, so hush ;P [07:27] lol [07:27] jussi: this would be my permanent one :) [07:27] \o/ [07:27] as long as he stays with it I dont care :D [07:27] I know switching nicks is a tough job [07:27] but I also knew the downside of nick bilalakhtar [07:27] Almost everyone typo-ed it [07:28] Some typed it bilalakthar, some bilalahktar [07:28] Only those who used tab completion typed it correctly [07:28] you had the distinction of being in the short list of people I refer to as their first few letters, followed by [07:29] rww: like cz ? :D [07:29] exactly :D [07:29] (there were people actually calling her that at UDS brussels :P ) [07:30] Anyways, I think I fixed the floodbots banning MrUnagi. For future reference of everyone, the 'unblock' command in -ops-monitor takes a hostname as an argument (e.g. fnord-123-456-789-101-dialup.aol.com) instead of something like *!*@somehostname [07:32] also, if y'all want -proxy-user banforwards removing after N days, let me know and I'll deal with them when I get bored and clean up exempts ;P [07:33] When I remotely attended UDS sessions and put a point ot the room, ted was like: Okay, I don't have any idea how to pronounce your nick (laughs from the audience) its B I L.. Okay, so ............" [07:34] jussi: and you are talking about czajkowski? [07:34] yes [07:36] * jussi didnt think we were using proxy-users anymore [07:36] cztab is pronouncible, too. It has the slight disadvantage that I don't think she likes it >.> [07:36] I just say Laura :P [07:36] jussi: people on open proxies get banforwarded there, presumably for the "there are better ways to be anonymous!" speech [07:37] jussi: you attend UDS? see me at the next one :) [07:37] rww: ahh, thats right, we changed the webchat but not the other stuf [07:37] cdbs: lets see if I go. [07:37] * jussi has been to the last 3 [07:37] Even orlando? [07:37] I might go to the next USA one. depends on where it is and whether I'm doing anything Ubuntuy at the time :| [07:38] How d'you know it will be in the US? [07:38] cdbs: they alternate EU and usa [07:38] cdbs: I was there [07:38] Why not outside EU and US? [07:38] cdbs: the next USA one will be in orlando [07:38] lol [07:39] the orlando one is over :) [07:39] no, I mean it [07:39] they have booked it again [07:39] wow! [07:39] that good, huh? [07:39] anyway, lets head to -offtopic for this discussion [07:39] rww: it was the ideal venue [07:44] Oh that's awesome. [07:45] elky: ? [07:45] the orlando thing [07:45] elky: you didnt know? [07:45] i've been mostly off grid the past week [07:45] ahh, they told us at UDS [07:46] * elky is in the eastern-most state ;) [07:46] jussi, i didn't hear it, no [07:46] but it was a good venue :) [07:46] elky: I failed to parse that use of "awesome" for sarcasm or lack of sarcasm >.> [07:46] i knew they were thrilled, and it was a great venue, but i didn't know they'd gone as far as booking [07:46] yeah, I had to guess a bit there [07:46] anyway, i need to clear the office before someone sets the alarms [07:47] nobody's given me a swipe card o.O [07:47] I find that it's funner to do it after. Time trial! [07:48] elky: Ive a leftover one from orlando you can have :D [07:49] its funny, I seem to have a collection of swipe cards from different hotels [07:51] jussi: Extras come in handy when you need to use one to turn lights on in your hotel room! (I have no idea if they even do this anymore) [07:51] or clone credit cards [07:51] i mean... yes. lights. [07:51] Flannel: any creditcard sized card does that [07:51] jussi: Right, but old door key are nice, and meaningless if you lose [07:52] yeah, true [07:52] (and by lose, I mean forget in the room) [07:52] I don't like putting my room key for *that* room in there, because then I walk outside..... and... am locked out! [07:52] Flannel: ++ [07:52] it's safer to keep on my person at all times [07:52] pocket... door... pocket [07:54] I got into the habit of keeping them in my wallet. Now that I have an actual door key (that you put in a lock and turn), I still keep it in my wallet. [07:55] rww: They have wallets with key rings in them, maybe I'll get you one for christmas. === elky is now known as melissa [08:03] oh stupid xchat [08:12] dwoop === melissa is now known as elky [09:55] interesting [09:57] quieted fastocr in #ubuntu for talking about bestiality...sent coc & guidelines factoids...and got a PM attempting to send me a factoid about male anatomy in response... so now he gets a ban [09:58] ikonia: he's been asking questions basically how to make a respin of his own for a good hour now, he seems not to read any responses he gets [09:58] soon put a stop to it [10:06] so much for that === cdbs is now known as bilalakhtar === bilalakhtar is now known as cdbs [10:30] Just to make a comment I had to change my nick [10:30] jussi: I cannot login to Ubottu with this nick, though its registered to the same account [11:02] cdbs: I've added *!*@ubuntu/member/bilalakhtar to your user, the bot should recognise you without @login as long as you have your cloak [11:02] ts2: oh good [11:03] in any case I am not going to let that cloak go [11:03] so this is a good idea [11:21] Hmm, so I used cdbs to package my latest package. [11:21] lol [11:32] * Myrtti raises eyebrows at abusado [11:35] Myrtti: Abused in Spanish. [11:35] jpds: his ident doesn't lower my suspicions [14:06] I may just smack someone soon [14:06] Myrtti: so soon? [14:08] How does this look? [14:08] !plymouth [14:08] Plymouth manages the Ubuntu boot process (before the root filesystem is mounted) and also provides a graphical boot animation. To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u » [14:21] erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (Backtrackin) [14:21] hrm [14:26] meh [14:27] I've ran out of alphabet blocks, crayons and modelling clay [14:27] jijojohn :-< [14:29] bets taken in on will he ask how to join that channel [14:57] hello [14:57] hi [14:57] sorry for behavior in ubuntu cahnnle [14:57] ikonia: banned me there for trolling [14:58] i accept my apology plz unbanned me in ubuntu :) [14:58] uhm, even if you're unbanned, i don't think you can join ubuntu from bshellz [14:58] ok but plz forgotmy trolling there [14:59] *forget [14:59] i never do trolling agian :) [14:59] blockcold: We have been through this so many times that I've lost count. [15:00] Pici: sorry i don't come there but at least i have apology [15:00] This probably reflects also: [15:00] * blockcold (blockcold@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-syztvnybarwkkbjw) has joined #xubuntu [15:00] bazhang: :P [15:00] * blockcold (blockcold@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-syztvnybarwkkbjw) has left #xubuntu [15:00] charlie-tca: thank you. [15:01] hey [15:01] plz i never do troll agian but at least give the pass to ubuntu channles [15:01] atleat i can see ppls problem and the remedy by ubuntu experts [15:01] give me last chace SIR [15:02] *chance [15:02] charlie-tca: ok i was there :) [15:02] guys plz :) [15:02] blockcold: You've already been given multiple chances. And you've messed up every single time. And this little bit of annoyingness in #xubuntu tells me that you haven't changed. [15:03] i don't write any word at there but plz i want to see the questions :) [15:03] blockcold: You can read our logs then. [15:03] !logs [15:03] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [15:03] :( ok but i can come here in ubuntu butnot chat there ? [15:04] blockcold: 'here' as in #ubuntu-ops ? [15:04] love u guys give me one chance [15:04] nope ubuntu only and ubuntu-in [15:04] plzzz pici [15:04] blockcold: You've already gotten your chances. [15:05] pici pice plz i never write a single word there but i want to see ppls problems :) [15:05] blockcold: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ There you go. [15:06] omg [15:07] ok bye :P [15:07] but i am not going i come here with another identity [15:07] ;) [15:07] ban evading is against freenode policy [15:07] i recommend you do not do that [15:07] heheheh change ip then no body know me [15:07] kekekez [15:08] * LjL shrugs [15:08] should i leave ? [15:08] chances of getting unbanned diminishing towards zero now. [15:08] yes if you have nothing else to ask please leave here [15:08] Pici: plz unbanned me [15:08] i don't want to that :( [15:09] may I? [15:09] blockcold, Pici has clearly made up his mind [15:09] it's no use insisting more [15:09] Pici: sorry :) [15:09] sorry guys:) [15:09] ok i nevercome there [15:09] :) [15:10] bye [15:10] bye [15:10] Bye. [15:10] @mark blockcold [15:10] The operation succeeded. [15:10] Pici: is it right that bshellz is banned? and without a forward to -proxy-users at that [15:10] Pici: they actually seem to have identd running [15:10] LjL: Its something that we're working on identifying the best way to deal with them. [15:11] Also, that was jungli, who has had more chances than I'd care to mention. [15:11] ha [15:12] anyway i think the ban should really be to -proxy-users in the meanwhile, why puzzle people who try to join? [15:12] And regarding letting him sit there muted, I don't really want him harrasing our users. [15:47] * Myrtti raises an eyebrow at router_mapper [15:52] AlanBell called the ops in #ubuntu-women () [15:52] oh gosh, I've forgotten how to search stuff from the bantracker [15:57] http://www.google.com/search?q=When+a+constant+scale+factor+is+used+for+these+routes,+the+shorter+roads+shrink+to+a+point+and+essentially+vanish. [16:56] so much for the promises [17:10] keep an eye out for 122.162.254.177 [17:10] that's jungli's current uncloaked ip [17:31] what if i got banned on a efnet channel? [17:32] what about it? [17:32] sorry, thats not something we can help with [17:32] then you'd discuss the ban with the relevant operators of the channel you were banned in [17:33] they don't reply ofcourse [17:33] :-( [17:33] yeah [17:33] the ban was really unfair [17:33] sorry, but it's not something we can deal with [17:33] in any case, we can't help with that [17:33] no, i see [17:34] thanks anyway [17:37] guest101010: anything else we can help you with? [17:38] hmm [17:38] no [17:38] sorry [17:38] bye :p [17:38] byebye