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charlie-tcawaiting for respin00:01
htorquehttp://img.xrmb2.net/images/103699.png - that's not exactly good advise for a live CD :P00:02
charlie-tcayou would prefer it simply fail?00:04
charlie-tcaAt least you know it needs something/ won't work, right?00:04
htorqueno, no, such a dialog is a big help, it's just that installing the graphics driver and/or rebooting won't help a lot with a live CD ;-)00:09
RAOFNot unless we fix it so that works, no. :)00:09
charlie-tcaoh, yeah. That too, huh.00:12
charlie-tcaIt really should be "logout and choose classic session"00:13
charlie-tcaand then we need to tell you how to log back in, since it is not that simple00:13
bdmurrayfwiw if you file a bug about it I think the d in 3d should be capitalized00:13
charlie-tcahtorque, will you file a bug and attach the image, please?00:14
mterryjasoncwarner, are things under control?00:15
htorquecharlie-tca, any idea which package this is? gnome-session?00:15
charlie-tcalive cd? should be ubiquity00:16
charlie-tcaat least that will get it started. We will sort it out then.00:16
htorquealso, there's no need to log out and back into a classic session, cause i'm already in a classic session (or at least one with two panels + metacity) - this really looks more like the text you sould get after booting for the first time.00:17
htorqueok, will do00:17
cjwatsondo the ubuntu-netbook armel images need to be respun as well for this unity bug?00:19
mterrycharlie-tca, how are things?  did we get a fix?00:20
charlie-tcaI hear we did. I am waiting for the images00:21
mterryyay00:23
jasoncwarnermterry: yeah, we are waiting to verify images....00:32
cjwatsonjasoncwarner et al: you should have images to work on within the hour00:37
cjwatsonskaet_'s running those, I'm off to bed00:37
charlie-tcaThank you, cjwatson00:38
charlie-tcadinner time. back in a few minutes00:55
nagappan_mterry, ping01:07
mterrynagappan_, hi01:07
nagappan_mterry, I have reinstalled 11.04 today in a VM01:07
nagappan_mterry, and still gtk3-demo is not visible in accerciser01:07
mterrynagappan_, so I figured out the sequence to get it to work01:07
nagappan_mterry, any help ?01:07
nagappan_mterry, sure01:07
mterrynagappan_, but I wanted to confirm that I was still seeing the problem before I replied to bug01:07
nagappan_mterry, sure01:08
mterrynagappan_, but here ya go:  install python-xlib, python-pyatspi2, at-spi2-core, and libatk-adaptor01:08
mterrynagappan_, then set a gconf key...01:08
nagappan_mterry, ok01:08
* nagappan_ doing so01:08
mterrynagappan_, /desktop/gnome/interface/at-spi-dbus to true01:09
mterrynagappan_, then log out and back in01:09
mterrynagappan_, you should have new dbus-powered at-spi01:09
mterrynagappan_, now gtk3-demo shows in accerciser.  But I didn't get around to retesting my comboselect bug01:09
nagappan_mterry, ok01:09
mterrynagappan_, because I originally reproduced that using non-dbus at-spi01:09
nagappan_mterry, there are some known issues with dbus based at-spi, atleast with respect to LDTP01:10
mterrynagappan_, yeah, OK.  I couldn't figure out how I had gotten the version of atk-bridge I had (it was working with gtk3 and non-dbus at-spi...  not sure how I did that)01:10
nagappan_mterry, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3101201:12
ubot4`Freedesktop bug 31012 in core "Combined bug report from LDTPv2" [Normal,New]01:12
mterrynagappan_, nice01:18
nagappan_mterry, I still have difficult to list gtk3-demo in accercier, more over with the switch to dbus only accerciser is listed in the application01:28
nagappan_mterry, anyways will keep fighting :-)01:28
nagappan_mterry, me heading home, will try this issue tomorrow01:29
skaet_ubuntu desktop amd64 & i386 have been put on the iso tracker ( 20101202 )02:08
* RAOF hits up zsync02:09
* charlie-tca running zsync02:09
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* TheMuso zsyncs02:12
charlie-tcaXubuntu desktop 32bit and 64bit done except wubi02:14
skaet_charlie-tca,  cool.   Do you want the Xubuntu desktop images rebuilt with the unity fix in them?02:23
skaet_or are the images you've got right now, good to go out?02:24
charlie-tcano02:24
charlie-tcaThe Xubuntu images are good02:24
charlie-tcaWe won't switch to unity.02:24
skaet_ok.  :)02:25
* skaet_ strikes one set of builds to do before bed tonight off her list ;)02:25
charlie-tcaI think the alternates are good too, but I haven't had time to run the 386 images02:26
charlie-tcadesktop is up; panel and dock are back02:34
TheMusoYep, on amd64 and dock is showing as it should.02:34
charlie-tcaMine is 38602:35
charlie-tcaand the shortcuts, too!02:35
charlie-tcaThanks to all the fixers!02:38
skaet_*\o/*02:38
charlie-tcaand now, I am working the full disk install02:38
skaet_Thanks charlie-tca, TheMuso !!02:39
charlie-tcaYou are welcome02:39
* skaet_ feels a lot better right now....02:39
* charlie-tca is tired now, but at least this is working02:40
marjocharlie-tca: get some rest & thx!02:42
charlie-tcaYou are welcome02:43
charlie-tcaGot to get at least the full disk install done first02:43
marjocharlie-tca: ack02:43
kidsodatelessguys, any torrent links for alpha1?02:48
charlie-tcano alpha1 yet02:49
kidsodatelesscharlie-tca, I have been to iso tracker, I saw natty alpha 1(testing) so I thought it was out. thanks. , anyway02:55
marjokidsodateless: you're welcome to join the testing02:55
kidsodatelessmarjo, yeah.. i want to commit this time.02:56
marjokidsodateless: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested02:56
marjothose are the untested images02:56
marjoalso: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/notcompleted02:57
kidsodatelessmarjo, I'm looking for torrent links so I can download iso image easily.02:57
RAOFThere aren't any; not for the dailies.02:59
RAOFBecause the images change too often for it to be reasonable.03:00
charlie-tcaAfter closing the window manager still running window, I got an error that I couldn't catch and it restarts03:02
charlie-tcarather it shuts down03:03
charlie-tcaMaybe I hit the wrong thing, went to shutdown instead of restart.03:04
charlie-tcabut I got a monitor turned off and keyboard/mouse unresponsive with the computer running03:05
charlie-tcaThere was no on-screen message to remove the cd, just a monitor that shut down. Hard reset the system, it boots into natty.03:08
charlie-tcaI can restart normally from the installed system03:08
marjocharlie-tca: can you see if you can dup the behavior? if so, can you please submit a bug?03:10
charlie-tcaTrying now03:10
marjocharlie-tca: thx03:10
charlie-tcaWe can release note it if it is only restarting from the live environment03:11
marjoskaet_ ^^^03:11
marjocharlie-tca: but please try to dup it first03:11
charlie-tcaOf course03:12
charlie-tcaIt I can not reproduce it, no point in telling03:12
skaet_charlie-tca, marjo:  ack.03:12
charlie-tcaone time burp03:14
TheMuso8/c03:15
charlie-tcaI will run the installation again, but it looks like a one time good deal here03:15
charlie-tcaMight have been something in my own hardware that wiggled wrong03:20
marjocharlie-tca: ok, thx03:29
RAOFOh, sweet.  The livecd has apport turned on.03:36
RAOFThat makes recovering from a crashed unity that much easier :)03:37
charlie-tcaYeah, Makes it nice03:40
charlie-tca2nd installation, can not reproduce the issue with shutdown04:11
charlie-tcaGot to go rest now04:15
marjocharlie-tca: good night!04:16
skaet_thanks charlie-tca,  sleep well!  and THANK YOU!!!04:18
charlie-tcaYou are welcome04:20
cyphermoxmarjo: rebooting now to test the splash thing04:45
cyphermoxmarjo: I can totally reproduce, and yeah that's plymouth-text04:53
rickspencer3cyphermox, the splash screen says 10.10?04:54
marjocyphermox: please submit bug & i'll refer to it for desktop install04:54
rickspencer3I think we can live with that :)04:54
cyphermoxhehe04:54
cyphermoxI'll see if I can fix it in a merge request real quick ;)04:54
cyphermoxreporting now though04:55
rickspencer3I guess a release note for that would be nice in case anyone is confused04:55
skaet_thanks cyphermox04:56
skaet_when you've got a bug number I'll make sure to reference it in the TechOverview04:56
cyphermoxyup, skaet_, it' s bug 68399405:00
ubot4`Launchpad bug 683994 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouth-text theme shows Ubuntu 10.10 on Natty (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68399405:00
skaet_Thanks cyphermox,  adding it now.05:02
marjocyphermox: thx05:07
marjocyphermox: what about the slides that are shown during install? what package are those in? the welcome slide shows 10.1005:09
cyphermoxI think it's ubiquity-something05:12
cyphermoxnot too sure.05:12
cyphermoxubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu, it would seem: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html/annotate/head%3A/debian/control05:14
marjoskaet_ bug 68399905:43
ubot4`Launchpad bug 683999 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Natty slideshow welcome slide shows 10.10, not 11.04 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68399905:43
skaet_thanks marjo,  will add to tech overview note, together with 68399405:44
cyphermoxah, cool, thanks marjo05:57
PhilTnewbie here, is this channel for general testing issues or specific to qa on the iso files ?08:06
araPhilT, general testing (including testing the isos)08:13
jibelgood morning all08:32
PhilTthx ara. Having a go at the daily natty alpha on a netbook, interesting ride so far09:04
arain alpha 1 testing I am seeing a weird error with my mini909:55
arathe live session works correctly (X session shows), but when I install09:55
arathe X session starts (I can hear the gdm bang sound), but the screen is completely black09:56
araany ideas?09:56
araI tried to kill X or going to another ttx to check the logs, but I couldn't09:56
ckinghi there, I'm doing ISO testing and my machine does not support 3D, so I'm doing "classic desktop" testing. How do we do full coverage of our ISO testing since I'm not doing Unity testing?09:57
apwindeed how do you even indicate which one you tested ?09:57
araapw, cking: I guess there's no way right now other than commenting in the comments text field09:57
ckingIt's not clear on the ISO testing webby interface if we need to test both09:57
aracking, agree09:58
apwcking, in your case you probabally can't test both09:58
ckingyep, unless I find another machine09:58
apwara i suspect we need to fork the testing for both types no09:58
apwnow09:58
ckingbut it does mean that we may get positive tests on classic desktop when we should be testing and reporting unity bugs09:59
ckingbut for the moment, it now doubles my test workload to be sure we are testing all scenarios09:59
ckingand I like to be thorough09:59
apwcking, yes it does ... joy10:00
ckingnggg10:00
jibelHi all, we need help to test Alternate images for Natty Alpha1, any help is welcome. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested10:56
UndiFineDsure jibel11:01
jibelUndiFineD, many thanks. please set the status of the tests you're working on to 'Started' in order to avoid duplicate effort.11:02
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UndiFineDKubuntu Alternate i38611:05
pedro_doing Ubuntu alt i38611:22
arajibel,  in alpha 1 testing I am seeing a weird error with my mini911:23
ara the live session works correctly (X session shows), but when I install11:23
ara the X session starts (I can hear the gdm bang sound), but the screen is completely black11:23
ara any ideas?11:23
ara I tried to kill X or going to another ttx to check the logs, but I couldn't11:23
jibelara, something like bug 681294 ?11:24
ubot4`Launchpad bug 681294 in linux (Ubuntu) "[STAGING] X doesn't start with 2.6.37-6+ (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68129411:24
arajibel, yes, that's the one! thanks!11:25
UndiFineDhey 2.6.27-6, is that BLK free ?11:25
jibelUndiFineD, what do you mean ?11:26
UndiFineDBLK (Big Kernel Lock)11:26
UndiFineDdoes that show improvement ? ie, in shared interrupts / file transfers11:27
jibelUndiFineD, Idk, any kernel guy around ?11:27
UndiFineDI am just curious, not urgentcy here11:28
UndiFineD300KB/s to fetch the iso11:31
jibelara, how do I find langpack included in the cd ?11:34
arajibel, you can check the manifest11:35
arajibel, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.manifest11:36
cjwatsonalso check the .list files for ones available for installation from the CD but not actually in the live filesystem (whether this is used varies in some cases)11:36
jibelara, ok thanks. I found it. No french on the cd :(11:37
UndiFineDinstalling Kubuntu Alternate i386 is almost finished :)12:51
UndiFineDKubuntu Alternate i386 starts up fine, going to the syslog13:04
jibelBrief status report, the following images are untested and we need to give it a go:13:28
jibel  Ubuntu Alternate amd64 : 0/6 Test done13:28
jibel  Kubuntu Alternate amd64 : 0/4 Test done13:28
jibel  Ubuntu DVD amd64 : 0/4 Test done13:28
jibel  Ubuntu DVD i386 : 0/4 Test done13:28
jibel  Ubuntu Studio Alternate amd64 : 0/3 Test done13:28
jibel  Xubuntu Alternate i386 : 0/3 Test done13:28
pedro_jibel, I'm testing Ubuntu DVD i368 now13:29
pedro_i can grab xubuntu alt later too13:29
jibelpedro_, Cool, mark it as started please.13:30
pedro_jibel, done it already13:30
UndiFineD Ubuntu  Server i386 raid1 no network13:30
jibelanyone for the remaining amd64 builds ?13:30
jibelUndiFineD, Great. Thanks much.13:31
fader_jibel: I'm syncing kubuntu alternate amd64 right now and will start testing it shortly13:31
UndiFineDadding samba and tomcat to the install, as they were untested13:52
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charlie-tcaGood morning14:08
jibelGood morning charlie-tca14:08
cprofittmorning charlie-tca14:11
UndiFineDthat went fine too :)14:11
UndiFineDXubuntu i386 is next14:11
charlie-tcaHello, jibel, cprofitt14:11
charlie-tcaHow goes everything today?14:12
UndiFineDgreat for me14:14
jibelcharlie-tca, we still need to give a go to some images, there's a showstopper for kubuntu desktop and another for wubi.14:14
charlie-tcaHello, UndiFineD14:14
charlie-tcaouch14:14
jibelcharlie-tca, can you help pedro_ with the remaining xubuntu tests ?14:15
charlie-tcaI will put myself together and take a look at what needs to be done yet14:15
charlie-tcasure14:15
pedro_good morning charlie-tca!14:15
UndiFineDjibel, my Kubuntu Alternate showed the desktop14:15
charlie-tcastarting xubuntu alternate 386 on hardware14:15
jibelUndiFineD, yes but there's a problem with Ubiquity on the desktop build.14:16
UndiFineDok14:16
jibelHere are the images which are untested:14:23
jibelUbuntu Alternate amd64  0/614:23
jibelUbuntu DVD amd64  0/414:23
jibelKubuntu Alternate amd64  0/314:23
jibelUbuntu Studio Alternate amd64  0/314:23
jibelUpgrade Kubuntu amd64  0/114:23
jibelUpgrade Ubuntu amd64  0/114:23
jibelUpgrade Ubuntu Server amd64  0/114:23
jibelUpgrade Ubuntu Server i386  0/114:23
jibelUpgrade Xubuntu amd64  0/114:23
jibelUpgrade Xubuntu i386  0/114:23
jibelXubuntu Alternate i386  0/114:23
charlie-tcadoes studio use unity?14:23
charlie-tcastarting ubuntustudio amd64 in VBox14:26
jibelcharlie-tca, not studio, edubuntu  does.14:28
charlie-tcagreat! I will run it then14:28
UndiFineDsofar installin xubuntu alt i386 with manual partioning is running fine as well14:54
UndiFineDhave to do some shopping wile it finishes14:55
marjo_hi ara!14:55
marjo_ara: are you covering the amd64 test cases for us?14:55
aramarjo_, I am afraid this time I was able to cover only i386. the spare hw that I have is a netbook :(14:56
aramarjo_, and we cannot test using VM14:57
aramarjo_, the spare amd64 laptop that I had was the dell xt2 that I gave to alex (multitouch)14:57
marjo_ara: ack14:58
UndiFineDI would like to know if my 8 year old Xeon 3Ghz is still demoted to an i686 in this release14:58
UndiFineDif it qualifies for being amd64 compatible again I could test amd64 again14:59
fader_UndiFineD: What happens when you boot from an amd64 image?15:01
UndiFineD10.04.1 went fine on amd64, but in 10.10 it was demoted15:01
UndiFineDmy desktop is an old IBM x226 server15:02
fader_UndiFineD: Hmm, that should only happen if you installed from an i386 ISO.  IIRC, the amd64 image will either boot normally and install the 64-bit OS, or it will not boot (and give you a message about unsupported architecture)15:03
fader_The amd64 image does not have the 32-bit packages on it, so there's no way to end up with an i686 system from the amd64 image15:03
UndiFineDok I will try later today / tomorrow15:03
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marjo_cjwatson, skaet: submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/68420815:04
ubot4`Launchpad bug 684208 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Misleading "Installation Finished" info box (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]15:04
fader_Argh, someone else will need to test the kubuntu amd64 oem install.  I'm back to getting the bug nobody could reproduce last time -- oem-config says it runs, but then I don't get the OOBE setup stuff after rebooting15:08
fader_jibel: ^^ sorry, can't get all the kubuntu amd64 alts :(15:08
cyphermoxUndiFineD, fyi, I just committed a fix for bug 661951, that will get uploaded next time I upload network-manager (probably as soon as we're not frozen anymore and two other bugs are fixed)15:47
ubot4`Launchpad bug 661951 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Incorrect /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66195115:47
charlie-tcaUbuntusutdio was not rebuilt after the fix yesterday. It defaults to Ubuntu Desktop and fails to fallback16:00
charlie-tcaManually switching to classic desktop at login allows it to work16:00
cjwatsonI didn't know ubuntustudio needed to be rebuilt.  It doesn't include unity16:01
cjwatsonwhich fix do you mean?16:01
charlie-tcaum, it does default to unity16:01
cjwatsoncdimage@antimony:~$ grep unity cdimage/www/full/ubuntustudio/daily/current/*.list16:01
cjwatsoncdimage@antimony:~$16:01
charlie-tcayup16:01
cjwatsonso which fix do you mean?  the one last night was in the unity package16:02
charlie-tcadefault is the unity desktop, and it does not fallback to 2d16:02
charlie-tcaBelieve so16:02
cjwatsonit is not possible for that fix to affect the ubuntustudio image either way16:02
charlie-tcano?16:02
cjwatsonit doesn't contain the code that was changed ...16:02
charlie-tcaMaybe it is just the session that is wrong for it then16:02
cjwatsonif you mean something else, could you point me to an upload?16:02
charlie-tcacjwatson, looks like it might just be that it defaults to the wrong session16:04
charlie-tcaIt defaults to the Ubuntu Desktop Session16:05
cjwatsonsounds like it needs an Ubuntu Studio developer to look at it, then16:06
cjwatsonand figure out what needs to change where16:06
charlie-tcayup16:06
charlie-tcaI told them to take a look at it.16:06
UndiFineDthanks cyphermox16:09
charlie-tcawell, asked them to look at it, at least16:10
jibelThere has been  a respin of the kubuntu desktop images. Give it a go.16:12
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UndiFineDXubuntu alt i386 running fine, has 27 updates17:06
jibelUndiFineD, Cool, thanks.17:07
jibelpedro_, I've an issue with the test for gnome-search-tool. The txtNamecontains is cboNamecontains is Natty, but then ldtp can't find the underlying text box.17:13
pedro_jibel, i'll have a look to it after ISO testing17:14
jibelpedro_, thank you.17:14
charlie-tcaxubuntu 386 alternate done17:28
marjo_charlie-tca: thx!17:37
charlie-tcapedro_, want me to help with studio386?17:40
pedro_charlie-tca, that'd be great :-), thanks!17:40
charlie-tcano problem17:40
jibelcharlie-tca, if you're running i386 here is what's left:17:52
jibelKubuntu Alternate i386  1/417:52
jibelUbuntu Alternate i386  3/617:52
jibelUbuntu Studio Alternate i386  1/317:52
jibelUpgrade Ubuntu Server i386  0/117:52
UndiFineDstarting server upgrade atm17:52
charlie-tcaum, I can't boot the ubuntustudio alternate i386 dvd on hardware. It skips the drive17:53
skaet_jibel,  has anyone had a sniff at ubuntu dvd amd64 or ubuntu alternate amd64?17:53
charlie-tcalet try another download on that one17:54
jibelskaet_, no that's the problem, not enough tests for amd64. Here is the status for amd64:17:57
jibelUbuntu Alternate amd64  0/617:57
jibelUbuntu DVD amd64  0/417:57
jibelUbuntu Studio Alternate amd64  2/317:57
jibelUpgrade Kubuntu amd64  0/117:57
jibelUpgrade Ubuntu amd64  0/117:57
jibelUpgrade Ubuntu Server amd64  0/117:57
jibelUpgrade Xubuntu amd64  0/117:57
jibelKubuntu Alternate amd64  3/417:57
jibelKubuntu Desktop amd64  3/717:57
skaet_agreed problem.  is that your priority list?17:59
jibelskaet_, yes.18:01
jibelremove Ubuntu Studio Alternate amd64 from this list18:02
pedro_is somebody else testing Ubuntu alt ?18:03
jibelpedro_, which arch ?18:04
pedro_i386, just to confirm one thing18:04
pedro_i'm not getting the oem-config after the reboot18:04
pedro_will remove the image and try again, but just in case, if someone else could try that, that'd be nice18:05
jibelpedro_, you'll make fader_ happy. I guess he faced the same bug on kubuntu alt.18:05
jibelfader_, ^ is it the same as yours ?18:06
pedro_works fine on i386 DVD though18:06
cjwatsondoes it make a difference whether you boot to unity or classic?18:06
pedro_it goes to the 2d method right away since i'm testing on a VM without 3d support18:09
pedro_was the same on the DVD image but the OEM install worked fine there18:10
pedro_bug 650703 is more or less what i'm seeing here18:11
ubot4`Launchpad bug 650703 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "oem-config-prepare works, but oem-config fails to start after reboot (affects: 4) (heat: 22)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65070318:11
jibelskaet_, I'll be able to start a Ubuntu Alt amd64 run in ~50 min.18:15
skaet_thanks jibel18:15
marjo_hggdh: daviey says "Upgrade Ubuntu Server amd64   0/1 <--- i'll take that"18:22
Davieymarjo: you missed the *sigh* :)18:23
marjo_"and  Upgrade Ubuntu amd64"18:23
marjo_and the "cold and tired" sorry; really appreciate your help daviey!18:23
Davieyheh, np18:24
hggdhoh, OK18:26
fader_pedro_: that bug 650703 is what I was seeing as well18:47
ubot4`Launchpad bug 650703 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "oem-config-prepare works, but oem-config fails to start after reboot (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65070318:47
pedro_fader_, i've submitted my logs to it, seeing that on Natty Alt i38618:47
fader_I saw that last cycle too but nobody could reproduce it18:48
fader_So I am not sure what's up18:48
cjwatsonfader_: you never sent --debug logs, though :-(  so we assumed you couldn't reproduce it either18:50
cjwatsonpedro_: we need /var/log/syslog as well as /var/log/installer/syslog (also /var/log/oem-config.log if it exists)18:51
fader_cjwatson: Ah, I missed the request in all the bug spam I get :(18:52
fader_... and running "oem-config --debug" reliably kills X for me now :P18:54
pedro_cjwatson, ok, i'll attach those too18:54
cjwatsonupstart --debug doesn't seem to be helping much18:56
cjwatsonlooks like I'll need 'debug-oem-config' on the kernel command line as well.  commented on the bug18:56
pedro_ok, i've upload the logs to the report19:05
Davieymanjo: Can somebody else take the upgrade ubuntu desktop, amd64?19:06
Davieyerr, marjo19:06
marjo_daviey: maybe hggdh?19:07
marjo_daviey: so the amd64 image is ok, right?19:08
Davieymarjo_: I'm still testing UEC.... nearly finished installing the first node. :/19:08
marjo_daviey: ack19:08
hggdhmarjo_: brb -- just ended the UEC image tests for the EC2 images (20101130) that are going public now.19:09
marjo_hggdh: ack19:09
charlie-tcapedro_, did you get ubuntustudio 386 to boot off cd?19:13
pedro_charlie-tca, well i'm testing on a VM , the image does boot19:14
charlie-tcaburning my third dvd, two would not boot19:14
pedro_odd19:15
charlie-tcavery19:16
charlie-tcaeverything else is working except that dvd19:16
marjo_charlie-tca: FWIW, i've had no problems with ubuntustudio i38619:17
marjo_on real HW19:18
charlie-tcaI give up. Three dvd's later, it will not work for me19:18
charlie-tcaI even downloaded it twice19:18
marjo_charlie-tca: bad DVD writer?19:19
charlie-tcano, it works with ubuntu and xubuntu19:20
charlie-tcaboth written to the same type dvd19:21
marjo_charlie-tca: ok19:21
marjo_charlie-tca: is this the image we're talking about? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20101130/natty-alternate-i386.iso19:22
charlie-tcano19:23
charlie-tcaam I fighting the wrong image? I have 2010120119:23
* charlie-tca slaps himself in the heade19:23
charlie-tcawill grab that one and try again. Sorry19:24
marjo_charlie-tca: that's the image that iso tracker is pointing to19:24
marjo_pedro_ ^^^ ?19:24
charlie-tcaOf course. I zsynced the wrong one, then19:25
pedro_yes indeed that's the image19:25
charlie-tcaLet me grab it and check it on my hardware19:25
marjo_charlie-tca: ok, tell us how it goes19:25
charlie-tcasure19:26
skaet_jibel, marjo_,  anyone had a chance to sniff at the amd64 for alternate or dvd yet?   they're probably the last blockers on the release at this point.19:36
skaet_s/blockers/things I want to know if we should publish/19:36
marjo_skaet: that would daviey and/or hggdh19:36
marjo_skaet: i think they're still finishing up uec tests19:37
Davieyfinishing failing UEC tests19:37
Daviey:)19:37
marjo_daviey: can you just give us a quick go/no-go on the AMD64 images (no need to wait for tests to complete)19:38
skaet_yup.  just want to know they basically boot.19:39
DavieyOh... i can't see any justification to not push Alpha 1 from here19:39
marjo_skaet: ^^^19:39
Daviey(Even though we have uncovered some interesting issues...19:39
skaet_on UEC or on amd64 images?19:40
skaet_Daviey, ^^19:40
Davieyskaet_:  Eucalyptus based cloud cannot be installed19:41
Davieynormal amd64 server looks good fwiw19:42
marjo_jibel: is your amd64 system up yet?19:42
skaet_heh, it was the amd64 and amd64 dvd - just need a sanity check on.19:42
skaet_Daviey, thanks, amd64 server's has gone into the publish queue.19:43
Davieyskaet_: I didn't think we normally test server dvd this early...19:44
DavieyI don't mind doing it, but it'll be a while to wget.19:45
skaet_hmm,  wondering if we've got some crossed wires.19:45
Davieyskaet_: Perhaps... let me know what you want me to do.19:46
skaet_ubuntu server amd64 - 20101201.1 has had some testing - so not too worried about it right now.19:47
marjo_daviey: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20101202/natty-alternate-amd64.iso19:48
skaet_ubuntu alternate amd 64 - 20101202 - hasn't had any one exercise it yet - just want to know its basically sane.19:48
Davieyskaet_: That isn't server, if that is blocking server sign off19:48
skaet_agreed.19:48
skaet_That's why I'm thinking some wires got crossed ;)19:49
marjo_daviey: never mind server (we're looking for sanity check on the image i just posted for you)19:49
skaet_Daviey,  I consider server's been signed off at this point.  btw ;)19:49
Daviey\o/19:50
skaet_Daviey, that's what I meant when I said it had gone into the publishing queue.  :)19:50
marjo_we just need you because you have amd64 hardware19:50
marjo_daviey: make sense?19:53
Davieymarjo_: Doesn't pretty much everyone have amd64 hardware?19:57
marjo_Daviey: no19:57
DavieyO_o19:57
charlie-tcamarjo, you hit it! the image from 20101130 boots19:57
marjo_charlie-tca: glad to hear that; so you're not crazy, after all!19:58
Davieygrabbing the alt amd64 iso now19:58
charlie-tcaSeems so19:58
marjo_Daviey: thx much19:58
Davieymarjo_: I am kinda concerned that there doesn't seem to be more people with amd64 hardware.19:59
marjo_Daviey: agree19:59
charlie-tcaykxf16QniGgE20:03
hggdhwell, I have it20:03
charlie-tcacrap20:03
hggdhthere goes a password...20:03
marjo_hggdh: yes, but you were doing server testing20:04
charlie-tcalol20:04
charlie-tcatoo many keyboards20:04
marjo_hggdh: and jibel killed his20:04
marjo_hggdh: and ara gave hers away!20:04
hggdhDaviey: what happened on your UEC test?20:04
hggdhLOL20:04
hggdhwell, now I can test20:05
marjo_hggdh: yes, please20:05
Davieyhggdh: Eucalyptus based cloud, nodes fail to install.20:05
Davieyhggdh: due to bug #68370020:06
ubot4`Launchpad bug 683700 in qemu (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "tasksel 'Virtualisation Host' fails to install (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68370020:06
marjo_hggdh: just need sanity check on: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/20101202/natty-dvd-amd64.iso20:06
marjo_hggdh: daviey's already grabbing alt amd64 iso20:06
hggdhmarjo_: downloading it n ow20:07
marjo_hggdh: thx; remember just sanity check (we don't need to wait for all the tests to finish)20:07
hggdhmarjo_: ack20:07
hggdhDaviey: hell.20:08
Davieyhggdh: The general situation seems pretty good for Alpha 120:09
Daviey(Maverick was hell).20:09
cjwatsonDaviey: we don't build a separate server DVD - the DVD covers both desktop and server20:11
cjwatson(re "19:44 <Daviey> skaet_: I didn't think we normally test server dvd this early...")20:12
Davieycjwatson: That probably explains why i wasn't familiar with it :)20:12
hggdhneither I...20:12
hggdhDaviey: except for UEC (but, this time, not due to euca)20:13
marjo_Daviey, hggdh: how goes it?20:37
hggdhmarjo_: installing the DVD now20:38
marjo_hggdh: nice; thx20:38
Davieymarjo_: installing the alt amd64 now.... using a dvd :)20:39
hggdhmarjo_: running http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4868/3220:39
jibelmarjo_, installing alt amd64 and resizing a drive is slooooooooowwww20:40
marjo_skaet: i think we've got the sanity test on the dvd & alt amd64 images20:47
marjo_skaet: please publish as you see fit20:48
marjo_skaet_ see scrollback20:51
skaet_marjo, Daviey, hggdh - Thanks!   was waiting for this.  :)20:51
marjo_skaet_ images are good and installable20:51
skaet_*\o/*20:51
Davieyhmm20:51
marjo_Daviey?20:52
Davieyhang on20:52
skaet_uh oh...20:52
Davieymarjo_: Have you had confirmation that alt is installable ?20:52
jibelmarjo_, I haven't rebooted yet.20:52
marjo_Daviey: jibel says "installing alt amd64 and resizing a drive is slooooooooowwww"20:52
marjo_but that confirms that the images are good20:53
Davieymarjo_: well i'm about 5 mins away from saying the test i'm doing is good.20:53
marjo_skaet_ can you wait 5?20:54
skaet_marjo_,  ack20:55
marjo_skaet_ i translate that to a +120:56
skaet_yup20:56
Davieyjibel: Where are you on the installation ?20:56
marjo_Daviey, jibel: ok you got 5!20:56
jibelDaviey, configuring the package, I cant write fast enough to tell you which though20:57
Davieyheh20:57
DavieyI did forget quite how slow the alt images are.20:58
hggdhand my install is 50% done21:00
* Daviey suspect his "5 mins" was a little keen.21:00
hggdhheh21:01
hggdhit takes longer to install the DVD than to download it. Oh tempora, oh mores21:01
hggdhmarjo_: DVD install complete, kosher21:22
marjo_skaet: please publish, per above result21:22
marjo_skaet_: please publish, per above result21:22
skaet_marjo_, hggdh - ack.21:23
skaet_Thanks!!!21:23
Davieyhggdh: testing on SSD hard disks?21:23
hggdhnope, standard HD, 7200 rpm21:26
marjo_hggdh: Daveiy's just messing with you21:27
hggdhDaviey: I wish... BTW, Sony, SanDisk & another came up with a flash at 2TB density, 500MB/s21:27
Davieymarjo_:  Oh no... this install has been really slow :)21:28
Davieymarjo_: desktop amd64 alt passed21:28
* hggdh is a sucker...21:28
highvoltagehggdh: that's 2TB theoretical maximum though (they don't actually have a 2TB one like that yet)21:28
Daviey(longest 5 mins of today)21:28
hggdhhighvoltage: well, yes. Still, it is something to look for ;-)21:28
* hggdh goes for a reboot now21:29
marjo_skaet_ alt & DVD ready to go!21:30
Davieymarjo_ / skaet_ : Can i go home now?  :)21:30
marjo_skaet_? Daviey requests permission to go home; ok w/ me!21:31
* Daviey goes... ping me if you want me.21:32
Davieyo/21:32
DavieyHave fun.21:32
marjo_Daviey: thx much!21:32
skaet_Thanks Daviey!!21:37
UndiFineDI will try this: Kubuntu Alternate i386 - expert -  manual partition - entire disk encrypted21:44
UndiFineD2.7 MB/s :D21:46
marjo_UndiFineD: tell us how it goes!21:47
UndiFineDsure will21:47
UndiFineDjust went outside, 5 cm of snow has fallen22:06
hggdhheh. Here about 10 cm of leaves...22:14
UndiFineDmeh entire disk encryption is false, you still need a normal /boot22:49
UndiFineDhave to redo the the whole thing22:50
skaet_Thanks everyone - Alpha 1's now out.   :)    Very much appreciate your efforts over last couple of days.22:52
UndiFineDskaet_, it was fun to, expert mode is much like what slackware used to be22:58
skaet_UndiFineD, :)22:59
UndiFineDa pita22:59
skaet_lol,  getting it to be less so, later, is why we're testing it now.  :)23:03
UndiFineDwell, it would have been nice if it told me that in screen before I made it encrypted and locked23:04
UndiFineDin physical form, i could have trashed the disk, i dont think there is a low-level format anymore23:05
UndiFineDhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parted/+bug/68449323:25
ubot4`Launchpad bug 684493 in parted (Ubuntu) "Natty: (expert install) parted udeb should warn it needs a non encrypted /boot (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]23:25

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