[00:01] <charlie-tca> waiting for respin
[00:02] <htorque> http://img.xrmb2.net/images/103699.png - that's not exactly good advise for a live CD :P
[00:04] <charlie-tca> you would prefer it simply fail?
[00:04] <charlie-tca> At least you know it needs something/ won't work, right?
[00:09] <htorque> no, no, such a dialog is a big help, it's just that installing the graphics driver and/or rebooting won't help a lot with a live CD ;-)
[00:09] <RAOF> Not unless we fix it so that works, no. :)
[00:12] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah. That too, huh.
[00:13] <charlie-tca> It really should be "logout and choose classic session"
[00:13] <charlie-tca> and then we need to tell you how to log back in, since it is not that simple
[00:13] <bdmurray> fwiw if you file a bug about it I think the d in 3d should be capitalized
[00:14] <charlie-tca> htorque, will you file a bug and attach the image, please?
[00:15] <mterry> jasoncwarner, are things under control?
[00:15] <htorque> charlie-tca, any idea which package this is? gnome-session?
[00:16] <charlie-tca> live cd? should be ubiquity
[00:16] <charlie-tca> at least that will get it started. We will sort it out then.
[00:17] <htorque> also, there's no need to log out and back into a classic session, cause i'm already in a classic session (or at least one with two panels + metacity) - this really looks more like the text you sould get after booting for the first time.
[00:17] <htorque> ok, will do
[00:19] <cjwatson> do the ubuntu-netbook armel images need to be respun as well for this unity bug?
[00:20] <mterry> charlie-tca, how are things?  did we get a fix?
[00:21] <charlie-tca> I hear we did. I am waiting for the images
[00:23] <mterry> yay
[00:32] <jasoncwarner> mterry: yeah, we are waiting to verify images....
[00:37] <cjwatson> jasoncwarner et al: you should have images to work on within the hour
[00:37] <cjwatson> skaet_'s running those, I'm off to bed
[00:38] <charlie-tca> Thank you, cjwatson
[00:55] <charlie-tca> dinner time. back in a few minutes
[01:07] <nagappan_> mterry, ping
[01:07] <mterry> nagappan_, hi
[01:07] <nagappan_> mterry, I have reinstalled 11.04 today in a VM
[01:07] <nagappan_> mterry, and still gtk3-demo is not visible in accerciser
[01:07] <mterry> nagappan_, so I figured out the sequence to get it to work
[01:07] <nagappan_> mterry, any help ?
[01:07] <nagappan_> mterry, sure
[01:07] <mterry> nagappan_, but I wanted to confirm that I was still seeing the problem before I replied to bug
[01:08] <nagappan_> mterry, sure
[01:08] <mterry> nagappan_, but here ya go:  install python-xlib, python-pyatspi2, at-spi2-core, and libatk-adaptor
[01:08] <mterry> nagappan_, then set a gconf key...
[01:08] <nagappan_> mterry, ok
[01:08]  * nagappan_ doing so
[01:09] <mterry> nagappan_, /desktop/gnome/interface/at-spi-dbus to true
[01:09] <mterry> nagappan_, then log out and back in
[01:09] <mterry> nagappan_, you should have new dbus-powered at-spi
[01:09] <mterry> nagappan_, now gtk3-demo shows in accerciser.  But I didn't get around to retesting my comboselect bug
[01:09] <nagappan_> mterry, ok
[01:09] <mterry> nagappan_, because I originally reproduced that using non-dbus at-spi
[01:10] <nagappan_> mterry, there are some known issues with dbus based at-spi, atleast with respect to LDTP
[01:10] <mterry> nagappan_, yeah, OK.  I couldn't figure out how I had gotten the version of atk-bridge I had (it was working with gtk3 and non-dbus at-spi...  not sure how I did that)
[01:12] <nagappan_> mterry, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31012
[01:12] <ubot4`> Freedesktop bug 31012 in core "Combined bug report from LDTPv2" [Normal,New]
[01:18] <mterry> nagappan_, nice
[01:28] <nagappan_> mterry, I still have difficult to list gtk3-demo in accercier, more over with the switch to dbus only accerciser is listed in the application
[01:28] <nagappan_> mterry, anyways will keep fighting :-)
[01:29] <nagappan_> mterry, me heading home, will try this issue tomorrow
[02:08] <skaet_> ubuntu desktop amd64 & i386 have been put on the iso tracker ( 20101202 )
[02:09]  * RAOF hits up zsync
[02:09]  * charlie-tca running zsync
[02:12]  * TheMuso zsyncs
[02:14] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu desktop 32bit and 64bit done except wubi
[02:23] <skaet_> charlie-tca,  cool.   Do you want the Xubuntu desktop images rebuilt with the unity fix in them?
[02:24] <skaet_> or are the images you've got right now, good to go out?
[02:24] <charlie-tca> no
[02:24] <charlie-tca> The Xubuntu images are good
[02:24] <charlie-tca> We won't switch to unity.
[02:25] <skaet_> ok.  :)
[02:25]  * skaet_ strikes one set of builds to do before bed tonight off her list ;)
[02:26] <charlie-tca> I think the alternates are good too, but I haven't had time to run the 386 images
[02:34] <charlie-tca> desktop is up; panel and dock are back
[02:34] <TheMuso> Yep, on amd64 and dock is showing as it should.
[02:35] <charlie-tca> Mine is 386
[02:35] <charlie-tca> and the shortcuts, too!
[02:38] <charlie-tca> Thanks to all the fixers!
[02:38] <skaet_> *\o/*
[02:38] <charlie-tca> and now, I am working the full disk install
[02:39] <skaet_> Thanks charlie-tca, TheMuso !!
[02:39] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[02:39]  * skaet_ feels a lot better right now....
[02:40]  * charlie-tca is tired now, but at least this is working
[02:42] <marjo> charlie-tca: get some rest & thx!
[02:43] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[02:43] <charlie-tca> Got to get at least the full disk install done first
[02:43] <marjo> charlie-tca: ack
[02:48] <kidsodateless> guys, any torrent links for alpha1?
[02:49] <charlie-tca> no alpha1 yet
[02:55] <kidsodateless> charlie-tca, I have been to iso tracker, I saw natty alpha 1(testing) so I thought it was out. thanks. , anyway
[02:55] <marjo> kidsodateless: you're welcome to join the testing
[02:56] <kidsodateless> marjo, yeah.. i want to commit this time.
[02:56] <marjo> kidsodateless: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested
[02:56] <marjo> those are the untested images
[02:57] <marjo> also: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/notcompleted
[02:57] <kidsodateless> marjo, I'm looking for torrent links so I can download iso image easily.
[02:59] <RAOF> There aren't any; not for the dailies.
[03:00] <RAOF> Because the images change too often for it to be reasonable.
[03:02] <charlie-tca> After closing the window manager still running window, I got an error that I couldn't catch and it restarts
[03:03] <charlie-tca> rather it shuts down
[03:04] <charlie-tca> Maybe I hit the wrong thing, went to shutdown instead of restart.
[03:05] <charlie-tca> but I got a monitor turned off and keyboard/mouse unresponsive with the computer running
[03:08] <charlie-tca> There was no on-screen message to remove the cd, just a monitor that shut down. Hard reset the system, it boots into natty.
[03:08] <charlie-tca> I can restart normally from the installed system
[03:10] <marjo> charlie-tca: can you see if you can dup the behavior? if so, can you please submit a bug?
[03:10] <charlie-tca> Trying now
[03:10] <marjo> charlie-tca: thx
[03:11] <charlie-tca> We can release note it if it is only restarting from the live environment
[03:11] <marjo> skaet_ ^^^
[03:11] <marjo> charlie-tca: but please try to dup it first
[03:12] <charlie-tca> Of course
[03:12] <charlie-tca> It I can not reproduce it, no point in telling
[03:12] <skaet_> charlie-tca, marjo:  ack.
[03:14] <charlie-tca> one time burp
[03:15] <TheMuso> 8/c
[03:15] <charlie-tca> I will run the installation again, but it looks like a one time good deal here
[03:20] <charlie-tca> Might have been something in my own hardware that wiggled wrong
[03:29] <marjo> charlie-tca: ok, thx
[03:36] <RAOF> Oh, sweet.  The livecd has apport turned on.
[03:37] <RAOF> That makes recovering from a crashed unity that much easier :)
[03:40] <charlie-tca> Yeah, Makes it nice
[04:11] <charlie-tca> 2nd installation, can not reproduce the issue with shutdown
[04:15] <charlie-tca> Got to go rest now
[04:16] <marjo> charlie-tca: good night!
[04:18] <skaet_> thanks charlie-tca,  sleep well!  and THANK YOU!!!
[04:20] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[04:45] <cyphermox> marjo: rebooting now to test the splash thing
[04:53] <cyphermox> marjo: I can totally reproduce, and yeah that's plymouth-text
[04:54] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, the splash screen says 10.10?
[04:54] <marjo> cyphermox: please submit bug & i'll refer to it for desktop install
[04:54] <rickspencer3> I think we can live with that :)
[04:54] <cyphermox> hehe
[04:54] <cyphermox> I'll see if I can fix it in a merge request real quick ;)
[04:55] <cyphermox> reporting now though
[04:55] <rickspencer3> I guess a release note for that would be nice in case anyone is confused
[04:56] <skaet_> thanks cyphermox
[04:56] <skaet_> when you've got a bug number I'll make sure to reference it in the TechOverview
[05:00] <cyphermox> yup, skaet_, it' s bug 683994
[05:00] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 683994 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouth-text theme shows Ubuntu 10.10 on Natty (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683994
[05:02] <skaet_> Thanks cyphermox,  adding it now.
[05:07] <marjo> cyphermox: thx
[05:09] <marjo> cyphermox: what about the slides that are shown during install? what package are those in? the welcome slide shows 10.10
[05:12] <cyphermox> I think it's ubiquity-something
[05:12] <cyphermox> not too sure.
[05:14] <cyphermox> ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu, it would seem: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html/annotate/head%3A/debian/control
[05:43] <marjo> skaet_ bug 683999
[05:43] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 683999 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Natty slideshow welcome slide shows 10.10, not 11.04 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683999
[05:44] <skaet_> thanks marjo,  will add to tech overview note, together with 683994
[05:57] <cyphermox> ah, cool, thanks marjo
[08:06] <PhilT> newbie here, is this channel for general testing issues or specific to qa on the iso files ?
[08:13] <ara> PhilT, general testing (including testing the isos)
[08:32] <jibel> good morning all
[09:04] <PhilT> thx ara. Having a go at the daily natty alpha on a netbook, interesting ride so far
[09:55] <ara> in alpha 1 testing I am seeing a weird error with my mini9
[09:55] <ara> the live session works correctly (X session shows), but when I install
[09:56] <ara> the X session starts (I can hear the gdm bang sound), but the screen is completely black
[09:56] <ara> any ideas?
[09:56] <ara> I tried to kill X or going to another ttx to check the logs, but I couldn't
[09:57] <cking> hi there, I'm doing ISO testing and my machine does not support 3D, so I'm doing "classic desktop" testing. How do we do full coverage of our ISO testing since I'm not doing Unity testing?
[09:57] <apw> indeed how do you even indicate which one you tested ?
[09:57] <ara> apw, cking: I guess there's no way right now other than commenting in the comments text field
[09:57] <cking> It's not clear on the ISO testing webby interface if we need to test both
[09:58] <ara> cking, agree
[09:58] <apw> cking, in your case you probabally can't test both
[09:58] <cking> yep, unless I find another machine
[09:58] <apw> ara i suspect we need to fork the testing for both types no
[09:58] <apw> now
[09:59] <cking> but it does mean that we may get positive tests on classic desktop when we should be testing and reporting unity bugs
[09:59] <cking> but for the moment, it now doubles my test workload to be sure we are testing all scenarios
[09:59] <cking> and I like to be thorough
[10:00] <apw> cking, yes it does ... joy
[10:00] <cking> nggg
[10:56] <jibel> Hi all, we need help to test Alternate images for Natty Alpha1, any help is welcome. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested
[11:01] <UndiFineD> sure jibel
[11:02] <jibel> UndiFineD, many thanks. please set the status of the tests you're working on to 'Started' in order to avoid duplicate effort.
[11:05] <UndiFineD> Kubuntu Alternate i386
[11:22] <pedro_> doing Ubuntu alt i386
[11:23] <ara> jibel,  in alpha 1 testing I am seeing a weird error with my mini9
[11:23] <ara>  the live session works correctly (X session shows), but when I install
[11:23] <ara>  the X session starts (I can hear the gdm bang sound), but the screen is completely black
[11:23] <ara>  any ideas?
[11:23] <ara>  I tried to kill X or going to another ttx to check the logs, but I couldn't
[11:24] <jibel> ara, something like bug 681294 ?
[11:24] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 681294 in linux (Ubuntu) "[STAGING] X doesn't start with 2.6.37-6+ (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681294
[11:25] <ara> jibel, yes, that's the one! thanks!
[11:25] <UndiFineD> hey 2.6.27-6, is that BLK free ?
[11:26] <jibel> UndiFineD, what do you mean ?
[11:26] <UndiFineD> BLK (Big Kernel Lock)
[11:27] <UndiFineD> does that show improvement ? ie, in shared interrupts / file transfers
[11:27] <jibel> UndiFineD, Idk, any kernel guy around ?
[11:28] <UndiFineD> I am just curious, not urgentcy here
[11:31] <UndiFineD> 300KB/s to fetch the iso
[11:34] <jibel> ara, how do I find langpack included in the cd ?
[11:35] <ara> jibel, you can check the manifest
[11:36] <ara> jibel, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.manifest
[11:36] <cjwatson> also check the .list files for ones available for installation from the CD but not actually in the live filesystem (whether this is used varies in some cases)
[11:37] <jibel> ara, ok thanks. I found it. No french on the cd :(
[12:51] <UndiFineD> installing Kubuntu Alternate i386 is almost finished :)
[13:04] <UndiFineD> Kubuntu Alternate i386 starts up fine, going to the syslog
[13:28] <jibel> Brief status report, the following images are untested and we need to give it a go:
[13:28] <jibel>   Ubuntu Alternate amd64 : 0/6 Test done
[13:28] <jibel>   Kubuntu Alternate amd64 : 0/4 Test done
[13:28] <jibel>   Ubuntu DVD amd64 : 0/4 Test done
[13:28] <jibel>   Ubuntu DVD i386 : 0/4 Test done
[13:28] <jibel>   Ubuntu Studio Alternate amd64 : 0/3 Test done
[13:28] <jibel>   Xubuntu Alternate i386 : 0/3 Test done
[13:29] <pedro_> jibel, I'm testing Ubuntu DVD i368 now
[13:29] <pedro_> i can grab xubuntu alt later too
[13:30] <jibel> pedro_, Cool, mark it as started please.
[13:30] <pedro_> jibel, done it already
[13:30] <UndiFineD>  Ubuntu  Server i386 raid1 no network
[13:30] <jibel> anyone for the remaining amd64 builds ?
[13:31] <jibel> UndiFineD, Great. Thanks much.
[13:31] <fader_> jibel: I'm syncing kubuntu alternate amd64 right now and will start testing it shortly
[13:52] <UndiFineD> adding samba and tomcat to the install, as they were untested
[14:08] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:08] <jibel> Good morning charlie-tca
[14:11] <cprofitt> morning charlie-tca
[14:11] <UndiFineD> that went fine too :)
[14:11] <UndiFineD> Xubuntu i386 is next
[14:11] <charlie-tca> Hello, jibel, cprofitt
[14:12] <charlie-tca> How goes everything today?
[14:14] <UndiFineD> great for me
[14:14] <jibel> charlie-tca, we still need to give a go to some images, there's a showstopper for kubuntu desktop and another for wubi.
[14:14] <charlie-tca> Hello, UndiFineD
[14:14] <charlie-tca> ouch
[14:15] <jibel> charlie-tca, can you help pedro_ with the remaining xubuntu tests ?
[14:15] <charlie-tca> I will put myself together and take a look at what needs to be done yet
[14:15] <charlie-tca> sure
[14:15] <pedro_> good morning charlie-tca!
[14:15] <UndiFineD> jibel, my Kubuntu Alternate showed the desktop
[14:15] <charlie-tca> starting xubuntu alternate 386 on hardware
[14:16] <jibel> UndiFineD, yes but there's a problem with Ubiquity on the desktop build.
[14:16] <UndiFineD> ok
[14:23] <jibel> Here are the images which are untested:
[14:23] <jibel> Ubuntu Alternate amd64  	0/6
[14:23] <jibel> Ubuntu DVD amd64  	0/4
[14:23] <jibel> Kubuntu Alternate amd64  	0/3
[14:23] <jibel> Ubuntu Studio Alternate amd64  	0/3
[14:23] <jibel> Upgrade Kubuntu amd64  	0/1
[14:23] <jibel> Upgrade Ubuntu amd64  	0/1
[14:23] <jibel> Upgrade Ubuntu Server amd64  	0/1
[14:23] <jibel> Upgrade Ubuntu Server i386  	0/1
[14:23] <jibel> Upgrade Xubuntu amd64  	0/1
[14:23] <jibel> Upgrade Xubuntu i386  	0/1
[14:23] <jibel> Xubuntu Alternate i386  	0/1
[14:23] <charlie-tca> does studio use unity?
[14:26] <charlie-tca> starting ubuntustudio amd64 in VBox
[14:28] <jibel> charlie-tca, not studio, edubuntu  does.
[14:28] <charlie-tca> great! I will run it then
[14:54] <UndiFineD> sofar installin xubuntu alt i386 with manual partioning is running fine as well
[14:55] <UndiFineD> have to do some shopping wile it finishes
[14:55] <marjo_> hi ara!
[14:55] <marjo_> ara: are you covering the amd64 test cases for us?
[14:56] <ara> marjo_, I am afraid this time I was able to cover only i386. the spare hw that I have is a netbook :(
[14:57] <ara> marjo_, and we cannot test using VM
[14:57] <ara> marjo_, the spare amd64 laptop that I had was the dell xt2 that I gave to alex (multitouch)
[14:58] <marjo_> ara: ack
[14:58] <UndiFineD> I would like to know if my 8 year old Xeon 3Ghz is still demoted to an i686 in this release
[14:59] <UndiFineD> if it qualifies for being amd64 compatible again I could test amd64 again
[15:01] <fader_> UndiFineD: What happens when you boot from an amd64 image?
[15:01] <UndiFineD> 10.04.1 went fine on amd64, but in 10.10 it was demoted
[15:02] <UndiFineD> my desktop is an old IBM x226 server
[15:03] <fader_> UndiFineD: Hmm, that should only happen if you installed from an i386 ISO.  IIRC, the amd64 image will either boot normally and install the 64-bit OS, or it will not boot (and give you a message about unsupported architecture)
[15:03] <fader_> The amd64 image does not have the 32-bit packages on it, so there's no way to end up with an i686 system from the amd64 image
[15:03] <UndiFineD> ok I will try later today / tomorrow
[15:04] <marjo_> cjwatson, skaet: submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/684208
[15:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 684208 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Misleading "Installation Finished" info box (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[15:08] <fader_> Argh, someone else will need to test the kubuntu amd64 oem install.  I'm back to getting the bug nobody could reproduce last time -- oem-config says it runs, but then I don't get the OOBE setup stuff after rebooting
[15:08] <fader_> jibel: ^^ sorry, can't get all the kubuntu amd64 alts :(
[15:47] <cyphermox> UndiFineD, fyi, I just committed a fix for bug 661951, that will get uploaded next time I upload network-manager (probably as soon as we're not frozen anymore and two other bugs are fixed)
[15:47] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 661951 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Incorrect /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/661951
[16:00] <charlie-tca> Ubuntusutdio was not rebuilt after the fix yesterday. It defaults to Ubuntu Desktop and fails to fallback
[16:00] <charlie-tca> Manually switching to classic desktop at login allows it to work
[16:01] <cjwatson> I didn't know ubuntustudio needed to be rebuilt.  It doesn't include unity
[16:01] <cjwatson> which fix do you mean?
[16:01] <charlie-tca> um, it does default to unity
[16:01] <cjwatson> cdimage@antimony:~$ grep unity cdimage/www/full/ubuntustudio/daily/current/*.list
[16:01] <cjwatson> cdimage@antimony:~$
[16:01] <charlie-tca> yup
[16:02] <cjwatson> so which fix do you mean?  the one last night was in the unity package
[16:02] <charlie-tca> default is the unity desktop, and it does not fallback to 2d
[16:02] <charlie-tca> Believe so
[16:02] <cjwatson> it is not possible for that fix to affect the ubuntustudio image either way
[16:02] <charlie-tca> no?
[16:02] <cjwatson> it doesn't contain the code that was changed ...
[16:02] <charlie-tca> Maybe it is just the session that is wrong for it then
[16:02] <cjwatson> if you mean something else, could you point me to an upload?
[16:04] <charlie-tca> cjwatson, looks like it might just be that it defaults to the wrong session
[16:05] <charlie-tca> It defaults to the Ubuntu Desktop Session
[16:06] <cjwatson> sounds like it needs an Ubuntu Studio developer to look at it, then
[16:06] <cjwatson> and figure out what needs to change where
[16:06] <charlie-tca> yup
[16:06] <charlie-tca> I told them to take a look at it.
[16:09] <UndiFineD> thanks cyphermox
[16:10] <charlie-tca> well, asked them to look at it, at least
[16:12] <jibel> There has been  a respin of the kubuntu desktop images. Give it a go.
[17:06] <UndiFineD> Xubuntu alt i386 running fine, has 27 updates
[17:07] <jibel> UndiFineD, Cool, thanks.
[17:13] <jibel> pedro_, I've an issue with the test for gnome-search-tool. The txtNamecontains is cboNamecontains is Natty, but then ldtp can't find the underlying text box.
[17:14] <pedro_> jibel, i'll have a look to it after ISO testing
[17:14] <jibel> pedro_, thank you.
[17:28] <charlie-tca> xubuntu 386 alternate done
[17:37] <marjo_> charlie-tca: thx!
[17:40] <charlie-tca> pedro_, want me to help with studio386?
[17:40] <pedro_> charlie-tca, that'd be great :-), thanks!
[17:40] <charlie-tca> no problem
[17:52] <jibel> charlie-tca, if you're running i386 here is what's left:
[17:52] <jibel> Kubuntu Alternate i386  	1/4
[17:52] <jibel> Ubuntu Alternate i386  	3/6
[17:52] <jibel> Ubuntu Studio Alternate i386  	1/3
[17:52] <jibel> Upgrade Ubuntu Server i386  	0/1
[17:52] <UndiFineD> starting server upgrade atm
[17:53] <charlie-tca> um, I can't boot the ubuntustudio alternate i386 dvd on hardware. It skips the drive
[17:53] <skaet_> jibel,  has anyone had a sniff at ubuntu dvd amd64 or ubuntu alternate amd64?
[17:54] <charlie-tca> let try another download on that one
[17:57] <jibel> skaet_, no that's the problem, not enough tests for amd64. Here is the status for amd64:
[17:57] <jibel> Ubuntu Alternate amd64  	0/6
[17:57] <jibel> Ubuntu DVD amd64  	0/4
[17:57] <jibel> Ubuntu Studio Alternate amd64  	2/3
[17:57] <jibel> Upgrade Kubuntu amd64  	0/1
[17:57] <jibel> Upgrade Ubuntu amd64  	0/1
[17:57] <jibel> Upgrade Ubuntu Server amd64  	0/1
[17:57] <jibel> Upgrade Xubuntu amd64  	0/1
[17:57] <jibel> Kubuntu Alternate amd64  	3/4
[17:57] <jibel> Kubuntu Desktop amd64  	3/7
[17:59] <skaet_> agreed problem.  is that your priority list?
[18:01] <jibel> skaet_, yes.
[18:02] <jibel> remove Ubuntu Studio Alternate amd64 from this list
[18:03] <pedro_> is somebody else testing Ubuntu alt ?
[18:04] <jibel> pedro_, which arch ?
[18:04] <pedro_> i386, just to confirm one thing
[18:04] <pedro_> i'm not getting the oem-config after the reboot
[18:05] <pedro_> will remove the image and try again, but just in case, if someone else could try that, that'd be nice
[18:05] <jibel> pedro_, you'll make fader_ happy. I guess he faced the same bug on kubuntu alt.
[18:06] <jibel> fader_, ^ is it the same as yours ?
[18:06] <pedro_> works fine on i386 DVD though
[18:06] <cjwatson> does it make a difference whether you boot to unity or classic?
[18:09] <pedro_> it goes to the 2d method right away since i'm testing on a VM without 3d support
[18:10] <pedro_> was the same on the DVD image but the OEM install worked fine there
[18:11] <pedro_> bug 650703 is more or less what i'm seeing here
[18:11] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 650703 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "oem-config-prepare works, but oem-config fails to start after reboot (affects: 4) (heat: 22)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650703
[18:15] <jibel> skaet_, I'll be able to start a Ubuntu Alt amd64 run in ~50 min.
[18:15] <skaet_> thanks jibel
[18:22] <marjo_> hggdh: daviey says "Upgrade Ubuntu Server amd64   0/1 <--- i'll take that"
[18:23] <Daviey> marjo: you missed the *sigh* :)
[18:23] <marjo_> "and  Upgrade Ubuntu amd64"
[18:23] <marjo_> and the "cold and tired" sorry; really appreciate your help daviey!
[18:24] <Daviey> heh, np
[18:26] <hggdh> oh, OK
[18:47] <fader_> pedro_: that bug 650703 is what I was seeing as well
[18:47] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 650703 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "oem-config-prepare works, but oem-config fails to start after reboot (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650703
[18:47] <pedro_> fader_, i've submitted my logs to it, seeing that on Natty Alt i386
[18:48] <fader_> I saw that last cycle too but nobody could reproduce it
[18:48] <fader_> So I am not sure what's up
[18:50] <cjwatson> fader_: you never sent --debug logs, though :-(  so we assumed you couldn't reproduce it either
[18:51] <cjwatson> pedro_: we need /var/log/syslog as well as /var/log/installer/syslog (also /var/log/oem-config.log if it exists)
[18:52] <fader_> cjwatson: Ah, I missed the request in all the bug spam I get :(
[18:54] <fader_> ... and running "oem-config --debug" reliably kills X for me now :P
[18:54] <pedro_> cjwatson, ok, i'll attach those too
[18:56] <cjwatson> upstart --debug doesn't seem to be helping much
[18:56] <cjwatson> looks like I'll need 'debug-oem-config' on the kernel command line as well.  commented on the bug
[19:05] <pedro_> ok, i've upload the logs to the report
[19:06] <Daviey> manjo: Can somebody else take the upgrade ubuntu desktop, amd64?
[19:06] <Daviey> err, marjo
[19:07] <marjo_> daviey: maybe hggdh?
[19:08] <marjo_> daviey: so the amd64 image is ok, right?
[19:08] <Daviey> marjo_: I'm still testing UEC.... nearly finished installing the first node. :/
[19:08] <marjo_> daviey: ack
[19:09] <hggdh> marjo_: brb -- just ended the UEC image tests for the EC2 images (20101130) that are going public now.
[19:09] <marjo_> hggdh: ack
[19:13] <charlie-tca> pedro_, did you get ubuntustudio 386 to boot off cd?
[19:14] <pedro_> charlie-tca, well i'm testing on a VM , the image does boot
[19:14] <charlie-tca> burning my third dvd, two would not boot
[19:15] <pedro_> odd
[19:16] <charlie-tca> very
[19:16] <charlie-tca> everything else is working except that dvd
[19:17] <marjo_> charlie-tca: FWIW, i've had no problems with ubuntustudio i386
[19:18] <marjo_> on real HW
[19:18] <charlie-tca> I give up. Three dvd's later, it will not work for me
[19:18] <charlie-tca> I even downloaded it twice
[19:19] <marjo_> charlie-tca: bad DVD writer?
[19:20] <charlie-tca> no, it works with ubuntu and xubuntu
[19:21] <charlie-tca> both written to the same type dvd
[19:21] <marjo_> charlie-tca: ok
[19:22] <marjo_> charlie-tca: is this the image we're talking about? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20101130/natty-alternate-i386.iso
[19:23] <charlie-tca> no
[19:23] <charlie-tca> am I fighting the wrong image? I have 20101201
[19:23]  * charlie-tca slaps himself in the heade
[19:24] <charlie-tca> will grab that one and try again. Sorry
[19:24] <marjo_> charlie-tca: that's the image that iso tracker is pointing to
[19:24] <marjo_> pedro_ ^^^ ?
[19:25] <charlie-tca> Of course. I zsynced the wrong one, then
[19:25] <pedro_> yes indeed that's the image
[19:25] <charlie-tca> Let me grab it and check it on my hardware
[19:25] <marjo_> charlie-tca: ok, tell us how it goes
[19:26] <charlie-tca> sure
[19:36] <skaet_> jibel, marjo_,  anyone had a chance to sniff at the amd64 for alternate or dvd yet?   they're probably the last blockers on the release at this point.
[19:36] <skaet_> s/blockers/things I want to know if we should publish/
[19:36] <marjo_> skaet: that would daviey and/or hggdh
[19:37] <marjo_> skaet: i think they're still finishing up uec tests
[19:37] <Daviey> finishing failing UEC tests
[19:37] <Daviey> :)
[19:38] <marjo_> daviey: can you just give us a quick go/no-go on the AMD64 images (no need to wait for tests to complete)
[19:39] <skaet_> yup.  just want to know they basically boot.
[19:39] <Daviey> Oh... i can't see any justification to not push Alpha 1 from here
[19:39] <marjo_> skaet: ^^^
[19:39] <Daviey> (Even though we have uncovered some interesting issues...
[19:40] <skaet_> on UEC or on amd64 images?
[19:40] <skaet_> Daviey, ^^
[19:41] <Daviey> skaet_:  Eucalyptus based cloud cannot be installed
[19:42] <Daviey> normal amd64 server looks good fwiw
[19:42] <marjo_> jibel: is your amd64 system up yet?
[19:42] <skaet_> heh, it was the amd64 and amd64 dvd - just need a sanity check on.
[19:43] <skaet_> Daviey, thanks, amd64 server's has gone into the publish queue.
[19:44] <Daviey> skaet_: I didn't think we normally test server dvd this early...
[19:45] <Daviey> I don't mind doing it, but it'll be a while to wget.
[19:45] <skaet_> hmm,  wondering if we've got some crossed wires.
[19:46] <Daviey> skaet_: Perhaps... let me know what you want me to do.
[19:47] <skaet_> ubuntu server amd64 - 20101201.1 has had some testing - so not too worried about it right now.
[19:48] <marjo_> daviey: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20101202/natty-alternate-amd64.iso
[19:48] <skaet_> ubuntu alternate amd 64 - 20101202 - hasn't had any one exercise it yet - just want to know its basically sane.
[19:48] <Daviey> skaet_: That isn't server, if that is blocking server sign off
[19:48] <skaet_> agreed.
[19:49] <skaet_> That's why I'm thinking some wires got crossed ;)
[19:49] <marjo_> daviey: never mind server (we're looking for sanity check on the image i just posted for you)
[19:49] <skaet_> Daviey,  I consider server's been signed off at this point.  btw ;)
[19:50] <Daviey> \o/
[19:50] <skaet_> Daviey, that's what I meant when I said it had gone into the publishing queue.  :)
[19:50] <marjo_> we just need you because you have amd64 hardware
[19:53] <marjo_> daviey: make sense?
[19:57] <Daviey> marjo_: Doesn't pretty much everyone have amd64 hardware?
[19:57] <marjo_> Daviey: no
[19:57] <Daviey> O_o
[19:57] <charlie-tca> marjo, you hit it! the image from 20101130 boots
[19:58] <marjo_> charlie-tca: glad to hear that; so you're not crazy, after all!
[19:58] <Daviey> grabbing the alt amd64 iso now
[19:58] <charlie-tca> Seems so
[19:58] <marjo_> Daviey: thx much
[19:59] <Daviey> marjo_: I am kinda concerned that there doesn't seem to be more people with amd64 hardware.
[19:59] <marjo_> Daviey: agree
[20:03] <charlie-tca> ykxf16QniGgE
[20:03] <hggdh> well, I have it
[20:03] <charlie-tca> crap
[20:03] <hggdh> there goes a password...
[20:04] <marjo_> hggdh: yes, but you were doing server testing
[20:04] <charlie-tca> lol
[20:04] <charlie-tca> too many keyboards
[20:04] <marjo_> hggdh: and jibel killed his
[20:04] <marjo_> hggdh: and ara gave hers away!
[20:04] <hggdh> Daviey: what happened on your UEC test?
[20:04] <hggdh> LOL
[20:05] <hggdh> well, now I can test
[20:05] <marjo_> hggdh: yes, please
[20:05] <Daviey> hggdh: Eucalyptus based cloud, nodes fail to install.
[20:06] <Daviey> hggdh: due to bug #683700
[20:06] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 683700 in qemu (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "tasksel 'Virtualisation Host' fails to install (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683700
[20:06] <marjo_> hggdh: just need sanity check on: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/20101202/natty-dvd-amd64.iso
[20:06] <marjo_> hggdh: daviey's already grabbing alt amd64 iso
[20:07] <hggdh> marjo_: downloading it n ow
[20:07] <marjo_> hggdh: thx; remember just sanity check (we don't need to wait for all the tests to finish)
[20:07] <hggdh> marjo_: ack
[20:08] <hggdh> Daviey: hell.
[20:09] <Daviey> hggdh: The general situation seems pretty good for Alpha 1
[20:09] <Daviey> (Maverick was hell).
[20:11] <cjwatson> Daviey: we don't build a separate server DVD - the DVD covers both desktop and server
[20:12] <cjwatson> (re "19:44 <Daviey> skaet_: I didn't think we normally test server dvd this early...")
[20:12] <Daviey> cjwatson: That probably explains why i wasn't familiar with it :)
[20:12] <hggdh> neither I...
[20:13] <hggdh> Daviey: except for UEC (but, this time, not due to euca)
[20:37] <marjo_> Daviey, hggdh: how goes it?
[20:38] <hggdh> marjo_: installing the DVD now
[20:38] <marjo_> hggdh: nice; thx
[20:39] <Daviey> marjo_: installing the alt amd64 now.... using a dvd :)
[20:39] <hggdh> marjo_: running http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4868/32
[20:40] <jibel> marjo_, installing alt amd64 and resizing a drive is slooooooooowwww
[20:47] <marjo_> skaet: i think we've got the sanity test on the dvd & alt amd64 images
[20:48] <marjo_> skaet: please publish as you see fit
[20:51] <marjo_> skaet_ see scrollback
[20:51] <skaet_> marjo, Daviey, hggdh - Thanks!   was waiting for this.  :)
[20:51] <marjo_> skaet_ images are good and installable
[20:51] <skaet_> *\o/*
[20:51] <Daviey> hmm
[20:52] <marjo_> Daviey?
[20:52] <Daviey> hang on
[20:52] <skaet_> uh oh...
[20:52] <Daviey> marjo_: Have you had confirmation that alt is installable ?
[20:52] <jibel> marjo_, I haven't rebooted yet.
[20:52] <marjo_> Daviey: jibel says "installing alt amd64 and resizing a drive is slooooooooowwww"
[20:53] <marjo_> but that confirms that the images are good
[20:53] <Daviey> marjo_: well i'm about 5 mins away from saying the test i'm doing is good.
[20:54] <marjo_> skaet_ can you wait 5?
[20:55] <skaet_> marjo_,  ack
[20:56] <marjo_> skaet_ i translate that to a +1
[20:56] <skaet_> yup
[20:56] <Daviey> jibel: Where are you on the installation ?
[20:56] <marjo_> Daviey, jibel: ok you got 5!
[20:57] <jibel> Daviey, configuring the package, I cant write fast enough to tell you which though
[20:57] <Daviey> heh
[20:58] <Daviey> I did forget quite how slow the alt images are.
[21:00] <hggdh> and my install is 50% done
[21:00]  * Daviey suspect his "5 mins" was a little keen.
[21:01] <hggdh> heh
[21:01] <hggdh> it takes longer to install the DVD than to download it. Oh tempora, oh mores
[21:22] <hggdh> marjo_: DVD install complete, kosher
[21:22] <marjo_> skaet: please publish, per above result
[21:22] <marjo_> skaet_: please publish, per above result
[21:23] <skaet_> marjo_, hggdh - ack.
[21:23] <skaet_> Thanks!!!
[21:23] <Daviey> hggdh: testing on SSD hard disks?
[21:26] <hggdh> nope, standard HD, 7200 rpm
[21:27] <marjo_> hggdh: Daveiy's just messing with you
[21:27] <hggdh> Daviey: I wish... BTW, Sony, SanDisk & another came up with a flash at 2TB density, 500MB/s
[21:28] <Daviey> marjo_:  Oh no... this install has been really slow :)
[21:28] <Daviey> marjo_: desktop amd64 alt passed
[21:28]  * hggdh is a sucker...
[21:28] <highvoltage> hggdh: that's 2TB theoretical maximum though (they don't actually have a 2TB one like that yet)
[21:28] <Daviey> (longest 5 mins of today)
[21:28] <hggdh> highvoltage: well, yes. Still, it is something to look for ;-)
[21:29]  * hggdh goes for a reboot now
[21:30] <marjo_> skaet_ alt & DVD ready to go!
[21:30] <Daviey> marjo_ / skaet_ : Can i go home now?  :)
[21:31] <marjo_> skaet_? Daviey requests permission to go home; ok w/ me!
[21:32]  * Daviey goes... ping me if you want me.
[21:32] <Daviey> o/
[21:32] <Daviey> Have fun.
[21:32] <marjo_> Daviey: thx much!
[21:37] <skaet_> Thanks Daviey!!
[21:44] <UndiFineD> I will try this: Kubuntu Alternate i386 - expert -  manual partition - entire disk encrypted
[21:46] <UndiFineD> 2.7 MB/s :D
[21:47] <marjo_> UndiFineD: tell us how it goes!
[21:47] <UndiFineD> sure will
[22:06] <UndiFineD> just went outside, 5 cm of snow has fallen
[22:14] <hggdh> heh. Here about 10 cm of leaves...
[22:49] <UndiFineD> meh entire disk encryption is false, you still need a normal /boot
[22:50] <UndiFineD> have to redo the the whole thing
[22:52] <skaet_> Thanks everyone - Alpha 1's now out.   :)    Very much appreciate your efforts over last couple of days.
[22:58] <UndiFineD> skaet_, it was fun to, expert mode is much like what slackware used to be
[22:59] <skaet_> UndiFineD, :)
[22:59] <UndiFineD> a pita
[23:03] <skaet_> lol,  getting it to be less so, later, is why we're testing it now.  :)
[23:04] <UndiFineD> well, it would have been nice if it told me that in screen before I made it encrypted and locked
[23:05] <UndiFineD> in physical form, i could have trashed the disk, i dont think there is a low-level format anymore
[23:25] <UndiFineD> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parted/+bug/684493
[23:25] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 684493 in parted (Ubuntu) "Natty: (expert install) parted udeb should warn it needs a non encrypted /boot (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]