[07:25] <dragon> trippedoutfish: Welcome to #ubuntu-us-ca
[07:28] <trippedoutfish> catastrophe: Why thank you :D
[17:04] <yantrashilpi> 'morning everyone.
[17:06] <nhaines> yantrashilpi: Good morning.
[17:09] <yantrashilpi> nhaines: Hope everything is well... I forget are you in the bay area?
[17:09] <yantrashilpi> was wondering when our next ubuntu hour was going to be.
[17:12] <pleia2> yantrashilpi: there will be one in san francisco on wednesday
[17:12] <pleia2> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california has the list of upcoming stuff
[17:12] <yantrashilpi> i'm assuming that's a week from now :)... I unfortunately don't have the DeLorean that Marty had access to.
[17:13] <yantrashilpi> or the plutonium
[17:14] <pleia2> yes, on the 8th
[17:14] <jdeslip> World of Goo is now for sale in the Software Center.  I highly recommend it.  Awesome awesome game.
[17:15] <yantrashilpi> got it, thanks pleia2
[17:15] <pleia2> :)
[17:16] <nhaines> yantrashilpi: I'm in the LA area actually.  :)
[17:17] <nhaines> Also World of Goo is great and I recommend it as well.  :)
[17:17] <yantrashilpi> nhaines: ahh yes I remember now, we were talking about it a few weeks back.
[17:42] <jussi> oh, I forgot to ask, is osmos available for sale in the SC yet?
[17:55] <jdeslip> jussi: I don't think so.
[17:55] <jdeslip> only 5 apps total for sale right now
[17:55] <jussi> someone should get them onboard
[17:56] <jussi> jdeslip: what are they?
[17:56]  * jussi is on the phone atm. so sorry if replies are slow
[18:01] <jdeslip> Brukkon, Vendetta Online and World of Goo (which are all games)
[18:01] <jdeslip> Fluendo DVD Player and Fluendo Coded Packs
[18:02] <jdeslip> codec that is
[18:31] <iheartubuntu> osmos is pretty cool. i brought it over on my netbook on thanksgiving to my folks house and people said it looked lame, next thing you know everyone wanted to try it!
[18:32] <iheartubuntu> steel storm is pretty neat game too.
[18:33] <iheartubuntu> the new version of tuxcart is nice as well! :p
[18:39] <nhaines> I don't see any purchasable apps in Software Center over here.  I know my laptop has two apps listed.
[18:40] <jdeslip> nhaines: Is your machine Maverick?  Paid apps don't show on Lucid and below
[18:44] <nhaines> jdeslip: all my machines are running Ubuntu 10.10 and have a "For Purchase" icon.
[18:44] <nhaines> Which is why I can see two apps on my laptop.
[19:04] <jdeslip> Strange that they don't show up :/
[19:18] <MarkDude> aaditya, can I ask you a php question?
[19:19] <MarkDude> http://zareason.com/shop/Submit-Action-Shots.html Why does the pic appear on a few machines just fine, and wont render on my Chrome or FF browser
[19:20] <MarkDude> Or anyone else that knows more php than me, which is basically everybody
[19:31] <pleia2> MarkDude: the image URL is https://zareason.com/shop/admin/getfile.php?file=%2FMarkinpenguininBART500.JPG
[19:31] <pleia2> which gives normal users "access denined"
[19:31] <pleia2> denied
[19:31] <pleia2> are you logged in to some kind of zareason administrative interface when you do your tests that work?
[20:01] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/WhoDoesWhat edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Website edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Planet edited
[20:12] <MarkDude> ty very much pleia2 - we have someone trying to fix it
[20:14] <pleia2> sure
[21:25] <pleia2> team reports are due saturday morning, so if anyone has anything to add: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/10/November
[21:37] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/November (nonexistent) | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/10/November edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/Current edited
[21:45] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/10December05 edited
[21:50] <jledbetter> I'll actually be in town this month but guessing no hours or such the last week of the year ;)
[21:52] <pleia2> there is one down in Santa Cruz on the 29th
[21:53] <pleia2> and the SF one will go on as scheduled (dec 8th)
[21:58] <jledbetter> Great!
[22:34] <seidos> speaking of SF, where can I buy some seeds for spinach, lettuce, and potatoes.  wait, potatoes i just need to bury a potato, right?
[22:34] <seidos> and some silliness for your viewing pleasure/!pleasure:  http://www.youtube.com/user/BalloonShop#p/u/81/xgLvHAKJJF0
[22:43] <akk> I usually go to hardware stores like OSH, or Target, for plants, but seeds you can probably get even at Safeway or Walgreens.
[22:44] <akk> And yeah, I think for potatoes you can cut into sections and bury them (haven't tried it myself).
[22:48] <seidos> yeah, i couldn't find an OSH in san francisco.  i don't get what the whole so san francisco thing is.  anyway, i found something close:  http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=gardening&sll=37.782112,-122.480049&sspn=0.076655,0.154324&ie=UTF8&t=h&rq=1&ev=zi&radius=5.06&split=1&hq=gardening&hnear=&ll=37.783028,-122.484469&spn=0.019163,0.038581&z=15&iwloc=D
[22:48] <seidos> which was very surprising
[22:50] <akk> I remember when I worked in SF and it was impossible to buy hardware, and I kept having to drive to the south bay for auto parts.
[22:50] <akk> There's probably a Target or similar at Serramonte.
[22:51] <pleia2> there are a few Ace hardware stores around here
[22:51] <pleia2> beyond that we tend to go to specialty stores, electric, lighting, etc (cater to contractors and individuals)
[22:52] <akk> I'm sure there are nurseries somewhere in SF, but you shouldn't need to find a specialty nursery just to buy seeds.
[22:52] <akk> Of course you can buy seeds online too.
[22:53] <pleia2> there is a fancy grocery store in the basement of the westfield that probably sells seeds too
[22:55] <seidos> well, it's probably good to buy seeds at a nursery, support the mom and pop stores, instead of the faceless corporations
[22:55] <seidos> they couldn't charge that much more, could they?
[22:56] <akk> Seeds are fairly cheap even from an expensive nursery.
[22:57] <seidos> yeah, i would think
[22:57] <akk> $4-5/bag maybe from an expensive place, $2 from a place like a supermarket.
[22:58] <seidos> so hey, if you guys are bored, you can look up your <ominous-echo>mayan horoscope</ominous-echo>:  http://13moon.com/decoder.htm
[23:40] <iheartubuntu> someone said seeds?
[23:42] <iheartubuntu> seidos... i recommend baker creek seeds. they are well known back east and i think they opened up a flagship store somewhere near you... peteluma?
[23:42] <iheartubuntu> http://rareseeds.com/
[23:42] <iheartubuntu> http://rareseeds.com/petaluma-seed-bank/
[23:43] <iheartubuntu> might make for a fun excursion
[23:43] <iheartubuntu> im sure they have garlic bulbs and potato "seeds"
[23:43] <iheartubuntu> the potatos in the store have been treated and most likely wont grow.
[23:44] <iheartubuntu> although if you get some organic potatos from whole foods or similar store you might have luck if they werent treated
[23:44] <iheartubuntu> potatoes
[23:44] <iheartubuntu> :)
[23:45] <iheartubuntu> I would also like to recommend Freedom Seeds down here in Pasadena. http://freedomseeds.org/
[23:46] <iheartubuntu> A small family that grows their own crops (6000 lbs a year) at their home is also now selling heirloom and open pollinated seeds
[23:46] <iheartubuntu> All of the seeds Ive bought from both companies have done very well.
[23:49] <iheartubuntu> There is also PLENTY of free seeds all over the internet if you "dig" around. lots of seed exchanges. I found one lady up in canada who grows strickly russian varieties of tomatoes... and she sent me some seeds.
[23:49] <iheartubuntu> im looking through my links now for some free seed sites
[23:50] <pleia2> that's pretty cool
[23:51] <iheartubuntu> http://www.seedsofchange.com/ guarantees their seeds to be organic since they grow and collect the seeds themselves (as does freedom seeds)
[23:54] <iheartubuntu> If you dont have a lot of space, consider square foot gardening.. http://www.squarefootgardening.com/
[23:57]  * MarkDude has the cape goosberry seeds that are almost ready
[23:59] <iheartubuntu> free tomato seeds here (SASE) ... http://wintersown.org/wseo1/YourChoiceTomatoSASE.html