[00:38] <Unit193> Hey dmcglone
[00:38] <dmcglone> Hi Unit193 hows it going?
[00:39] <Unit193> Playing in my router with SSH
[00:39] <Cheri703> hey
[00:39] <Cheri703> dmcglone: did that script work for you?
[00:39] <dmcglone> why SSH? why not just http
[00:39] <Cheri703> I added a line in mine to situate my normal one properly, if I restart with the external attached, it is dumb
[00:39] <Unit193> SSH is more fun/you can do more
[00:39] <dmcglone> Not good Cheri703, I said forget it and I'm back to gnome
[00:40] <Cheri703> :/
[00:40] <Unit193> You don't use Kubuntu at all?
[00:40] <dmcglone> too many quirks in KDE, but overall it's good, just too tedious
[00:40] <dmcglone> Unit193: I was giving it a trail run. ran it for about a week.
[00:41] <Unit193> Did you ever use Rekonq (Default browser)?
[00:41] <dmcglone> Desktop effects were screwed up and it would not remember my monitor settings
[00:41] <dmcglone> I don't recall
[00:42] <dmcglone> there were a couple times I clicked on a link and konq popped up, but I would close it and open it in firefox
[00:42] <Unit193> did you use 10.10?
[00:42] <dmcglone> yes
[00:42] <dmcglone> I still have it installed, Just haven't logged in to it
[00:43] <dmcglone> it's just too unpredictable
[00:43] <Unit193> I don't really have issues with it....
[00:43] <dmcglone> it's a shame though, because it's looking nice, and the options are plenty
[00:44] <dmcglone> are you using dual monitors Unit193?
[00:44] <Unit193> Can't :(
[00:44] <dmcglone> card doesn't support it?
[00:45] <Unit193> DOn't have the ports
[00:45] <dmcglone> I see
[00:45] <dmcglone> I'm about to buy me another monitor.. LMAO
[00:46] <Unit193> I would really love to have dual....
[00:46] <dmcglone> This computer room is "My Domain". No Wife's Allowed! LOL
[00:47] <dmcglone> Unit193: graphics cards are relatively  cheap these days
[00:48] <dmcglone> I've got to the point where if I had to go back to a single monitor I would cry
[00:49] <dmcglone> development is so much easier
[00:49] <Unit193> Main computer is the family comp....
[00:49] <dmcglone> Mine is too
[00:49] <Cheri703> dmcglone: it's hard for me to go from 10" + 20" back to 10" :(
[00:50] <dmcglone> Cheri703: take your 20" in the living room and hook it up to your netbook :-)
[00:50] <Cheri703> I do!
[00:50] <Cheri703> it's on a laptop stand next to the couch right now, hooked to netbook which is in my lap, and tv is hooked to desktop in the corner
[00:50] <dmcglone> also thats another reason I decided not to get a netbook
[00:50] <Cheri703> I like it for my portability
[00:51] <dmcglone> I got my behemoth HP for portability... LOL
[00:51] <Cheri703> heh
[00:51] <dmcglone> But for me, coming across computers is almost an everyday thing
[00:54] <dmcglone> the HP I got here it's jam packed loaded with card readers, dual monitor Nvidia, (HDMI) 2 HD's RCA jacks in back and front and back slot for removable tape drive and Svideo all for 200 bucks
[00:56] <dmcglone> it's funny I think about it and all my equipment is HP
[00:57] <dmcglone> I'll be back, I did an update and now my computer is having a winblows moment and is complaining it needs restarted
[01:00] <dmcglone> Ok, I'm back. I hate that stupid "login keyring"
[01:00] <Unit193> Welcome back
[01:00] <dmcglone> sometimes I have to enter my password 2 times, sometimes 3 sometimes just once
[01:01] <Cheri703> you can clear that
[01:01] <dmcglone> yeah, I'm about to delete that crap :-)
[01:03] <dmcglone> how would you go about it Cheri703? I usually just delete the stuff in "passwords and encryption keys"
[01:03] <Cheri703> let me check, hang on
[01:04] <Cheri703> if you delete it, then it will come back to want another one, and you just leave it blank
[01:04] <dmcglone> will it prompt again?
[01:05] <Cheri703> after you leave it blank at the "create password" it shouldn't, it'll ask "are you sure you want to use unsafe storage" or something, then leave you alone
[01:05] <dmcglone> ok im gonna do that
[01:11] <dmcglone> Unit193: I've got rekonq up. What sets it apart from firefox?
[01:12] <Unit193> I was just asking, I use firefox
[01:12] <dmcglone> I like the favorites
[01:13] <dmcglone> have you give it a look Unit193?
[01:13] <Unit193> Not really
[01:14] <Unit193> Just checking out the download of kubuntu and it listed that as new in 10.10
[01:14] <dmcglone> it looks lean.. so lean it looks scary almost
[01:14] <dmcglone> the progress bar is the actual address bar
[01:14] <Unit193> I miss N++ when using linux...
[01:14] <Unit193> Like in FF4?
[01:15] <Unit193> I don't like that...
[01:15] <dmcglone> I'm not familiar with FF4
[01:15] <Unit193> Firefox 4 Beta
[01:15] <dmcglone> I haven't seen that one yet
[01:15] <Unit193> Don't bother....
[01:15] <dmcglone> rekong has no menus
[01:16] <dmcglone> it seems to be using WebKit
[01:16] <Unit193> I'll stick with firefox/midori
[01:17] <dmcglone> I don't blame you. You want a screenshot?
[01:17] <Unit193> sure
[01:17] <dmcglone> Ok let me throw one up
[01:19] <dmcglone> Huh, it never fails. My Ubuntu One isnt working for some reason
[01:20] <Unit193> Does it ever?
[01:20] <dmcglone> it was working fine earlier
[01:21] <dmcglone> Ah I needed to connect! How dumb of me
[01:23] <dmcglone> they make this crap look so easy in the video
[01:23] <dmcglone> lol
[01:25] <canthus13> Ubuntu one isn't meant to work.
[01:25] <canthus13> it's a tribute to Microsoft.
[01:25] <dmcglone> haha
[01:26] <dmcglone> my image is uploading right now
[01:26] <dmcglone> :-)
[01:26] <dmcglone> at least I think... LOL
[01:26] <dmcglone> it's got the transfer icon next to it
[01:27] <dmcglone> it's a really big image, so I think it'll take a second
[01:33] <dmcglone> Unit193: http://ubuntuone.com/p/RkK/
[01:33] <dmcglone> it's so clean it's scary
[01:34] <Unit193> dmcglone: Ever tested midori?
[01:34] <dmcglone> No is it any good?
[01:34] <Unit193> small and fast
[01:35] <dmcglone> is it in the repo's?
[01:35] <Unit193> yes
[01:35] <dmcglone> I'm gonna fetch it
[01:37] <dmcglone> here's an example of the day I've been having:
[01:37] <dmcglone> david@buddy:~$ sudo apt-get midori
[01:37] <dmcglone> [sudo] password for david:
[01:37] <dmcglone> E: Invalid operation midori
[01:37] <dmcglone> david@buddy:~$ sudo apt get midori
[01:37] <dmcglone> sudo: apt: command not found
[01:38] <Cheri703> sudo apt-get install midori
[01:38] <dmcglone> I know, I finally got my head on straight and typed it correctly
[01:38] <dmcglone> thats just an example of the mindless mistakes I've been making today
[01:39] <dmcglone> I should have been a blonde
[01:39] <dmcglone> LOL
[01:39] <Cheri703> heh
[01:39] <Unit193> It's ok, your just old:-D
[01:39] <dmcglone> LOL
[01:40] <dmcglone> I'm surprised I at least typed my password correctly
[01:40] <dmcglone> sometimes I type my password wrong and I look at the computer like it's the computers fault
[01:40] <dmcglone> haha
[01:41] <Cheri703> it should know what you meant!
[01:41] <dmcglone> yeah!
[01:42] <dmcglone> it's supposed to be smarter than me
[01:42] <dmcglone> lol
[01:44] <dmcglone> Midori looks pretty good
[01:45] <dmcglone> so what tricks does it have up it's sleeve?
[01:45] <Unit193> I hate it when it tries to be smarter...
[01:47] <dmcglone> it's supposed to be. After all, they build our cars, survey land, crash test, and the list goes on ;-)
[01:50] <dmcglone> paultag: is it me or are you signing on and off?
[01:52] <dmcglone> here's something funny, I'm on wireless and my router is in the next room against the wall my computer is on and I only get a 25% - 35% signal
[01:57] <dmcglone> Hmm maybe it is me. am I still here? I've been having a lot of dropped connections lately, so sometimes I'm not sure
[01:58] <Cheri703> you're here, I have join/part turned off, so I dunno if you're dropping out
[01:59] <dmcglone> paultag: just dropped in and out like 5 times on my buddy list, so it got me wondering
[02:00] <dmcglone> Unit193: have any idea what browser this dude is using? http://www.youtube.com/myubuntuone
[02:01] <Cheri703> he has ridiculous hair
[02:01] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:01] <dmcglone> pay attention Cheri703 ;-)
[02:01] <dmcglone> stay focused
[02:02] <dmcglone> lol
[02:03] <Cheri703> chrome or chromium
[02:03] <dmcglone> how can you tell?
[02:03] <Cheri703> a. the icon, and b. I used it for a while
[02:03] <dmcglone> is it any good?
[02:05] <Cheri703> it was ok. I prefer firefox, big things were nice in chromium, the little details were what sent me back
[02:06] <Unit193> chromeium
[02:06] <Cheri703> ?
[02:06] <dmcglone> I see
[02:06] <Unit193> bad typing
[02:06] <Cheri703> ah
[02:06] <dmcglone> hang on, brb
[02:07] <Unit193> In the one image it has "Chromium didn't shut down..."
[02:10] <dmcglone> my "me" menu used to have my pidgin internet messenger, I just rebooted and now it's gone.. LOL
[02:14] <dmcglone> On the upside, U1 works, on the downside, I had to enter my password, on the upside I only had to enter it once..
[02:15] <Cheri703> and on the other hand, but on the other hand, and on the other hand...ahh fiddler on the roof
[02:15] <canthus13> puddi puddi!
[02:16] <dmcglone> downside...... one.ubuntu.com uses godaddy!!! damn I could give them better! ;-)
[02:17] <Unit193> Could you give me a better one?
[02:17] <Unit193> ;)
[02:18] <Unit193> Do you know how to minimize rdesktop?
[02:18] <dmcglone> with a sledge hammer
[02:18] <dmcglone> ;-)
[02:19] <dmcglone> I can't remember
[02:19] <canthus13> dmcglone: That's for fixing Windows.
[02:19] <Unit193> I like the KDE RDP client better then LXDE/Gnome
[02:19] <dmcglone> canthus13: I use a jack hammer for that
[02:20] <dmcglone> Unit193: I know exactly what your talking about, I used it a lot a couple years ago, but I can't recall how to minimize it
[02:20] <dmcglone> I belive it was a key combo
[02:20] <dmcglone> let me think for a second
[02:21] <dmcglone> is it the one with the bug in it that would take up the whole screen and not let you get back to your desktop?
[02:22] <dmcglone> not even alt + tab worked
[02:22] <Unit193> It's made for connecting to a win desktop
[02:22] <dmcglone> I know
[02:23] <dmcglone> I can't remember, i'll go google it for ya
[02:23] <Unit193> CTRL+ ALT+F3 :)
[02:24] <dmcglone> hah, it's exactly what I went through. hit crtrl+alt+F* then go back to F7
[02:24] <dmcglone> I ditched it real quick when I had to go through that
[02:25] <Unit193> CTRL+ALT+Enter windows it
[02:25] <Unit193> turns it into a window (how do you say that?)
[02:25] <dmcglone> you said it
[02:25] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:26] <Cheri703> any of you have a video ipod?
[02:26] <dmcglone> some call it "windowed"
[02:26] <Unit193> that's it!
[02:26] <Unit193> windowed it?
[02:26] <dmcglone> yeah
[02:26] <Unit193> :D
[02:26] <dmcglone> no Cheri703 I try to steer clear of apple products
[02:27] <Cheri703> we were given a video ipod, and I'm trying to troubleshoot it
[02:27] <dmcglone> shocking
[02:27] <dmcglone> lol
[02:27] <canthus13> Cheri703: did you try a hammer?
[02:27] <canthus13> :)
[02:27] <dmcglone> there ya go canthus13
[02:27] <canthus13> Cheri703: What's up with it?
[02:28] <dmcglone> canthus13: it's apple, what else you need to know
[02:28] <Unit193> rockbox?
[02:28] <canthus13> dmcglone: :P
[02:28] <canthus13> Unit193: I don't think rockbox will run on a video iPod.
[02:28] <dmcglone> you mean "crackbox" Unit193
[02:28] <Cheri703> it a. has a short battery life, which is fixable (new battery $25 online), b. it does something strange where it'll cut out and/or freeze up, so no buttons can be pushed
[02:29] <Unit193> rockbox f/w
[02:29] <Cheri703> what I'm trying to figure out is if this is a symptom of the battery getting low
[02:29] <canthus13> Cheri703: Any firmware updates available?
[02:29] <Cheri703> it gets sluggish
[02:29] <Cheri703> hmm...good question
[02:29] <Cheri703> will check
[02:29] <canthus13> But yeah, could be a low voltage condition caused by the low battery.
[02:29] <canthus13> I'd fix the battery before doing any updates.
[02:29] <Cheri703> hmm...ok
[02:29] <Cheri703> why not update and then see?
[02:30] <canthus13> Because the update might go bad because of the battery.
[02:30] <dmcglone> I agree, my laptop acts that way sometimes and the batter will not hold a charge at all
[02:30] <Cheri703> well, I can plug it in
[02:30] <canthus13> Does it crash when plugged in?
[02:30] <dmcglone> do you get the same symptoms when plugged/
[02:31] <canthus13> oh. spend the couple of bucks on the case tool for the ipod, too.
[02:31] <Cheri703> yeah, the $25 kit comes with the tool
[02:32] <dmcglone> with my laptop, if I don't remove the battery completly, I still get the same symptoms when it's plugged in, so thats a thought
[02:32] <Unit193> Ipod nano?
[02:32] <Cheri703> he is saying it didn't do it while plugged in at first, but now it does
[02:32] <Cheri703> 5th generation video ipod, 30gb
[02:32] <Cheri703> so we want to fix it :)
[02:32] <dmcglone> try plugging it in without the battery
[02:32] <Cheri703> guy at my brother's job gave it to him
[02:32] <Cheri703> battery is internal
[02:32] <dmcglone> it's still worth a shot
[02:33] <Cheri703> I don't want to be popping it open without the tool
[02:33] <dmcglone> Ah
[02:33] <Cheri703> and I want to make sure that paying for/replacing the battery will fix it, and I won't have the tool til I do that...
[02:34] <dmcglone> well, sounds like your screw** (hey just speaking my mind) ;-)
[02:34] <dmcglone> lol
[02:34] <Cheri703> well, we'll see, I'll poke at it
[02:34] <Cheri703> IF I tried rockbox on it, is it possible to put back on the original firmware?
[02:35] <canthus13> Yep.
[02:35] <Unit193> canthus13: You use it?
[02:35] <Cheri703> ok, might try it at some point, we'll see
[02:35] <canthus13> It sets it up to dual boot.
[02:35] <Cheri703> nice
[02:35] <canthus13> Unit193: No... I have a Creative ZEN Vision:M... No working rockbox available. :(
[02:35] <dmcglone> do you have to download the rockbox?
[02:35] <Unit193> Sansa Fuze V1
[02:35] <canthus13> dmcglone: Nah. you will it into the player with your mind.
[02:36] <dmcglone> LOL canthus13 I'm talking about downloading rockbox on the ipod
[02:36] <dmcglone> or do you download it to a computer then transfer it?
[02:37] <dmcglone> none of the above? all of the above? I'm just crazy?
[02:37] <canthus13> It seems to vary depending on the device.
[02:37] <Unit193> The Rockbox Utility runs on Linux
[02:38] <dmcglone> I see
[02:40] <Unit193> I can use my MP3 player as a HID :)
[02:41]  * canthus13 uses his mp3 player as a paperweight, mostly.
[02:42] <canthus13> Any time I can listen to music, I have my laptop. Why bother with the MP3 player?
[02:43] <dmcglone> I don't listen to music very often. I've got 3 kids so when it's quiet enough to listen, all I want is silence
[02:44] <canthus13> Woohoo. Woot-off!
[02:44] <canthus13> I wish I had checked earlier.
[02:44] <dmcglone> I know I could take off my hearing aid, but heaven forbid someone chokes
[02:44] <Unit193> I don't have a fully working laptop
[02:44] <canthus13> dmcglone: Heh.
[02:44] <dmcglone> then the only music I'll be hearing is funeral music ;-)
[02:47] <dmcglone> is there a way to drag windows to another desktop without using compiz?
[02:47] <canthus13> yeah. drag 'em.  Or ctrl-alt-shift-<arrow> to move it one desktop at a time.
[02:48] <dmcglone> when I drag windows to a screen edge, it won't switch desktops
[02:48] <canthus13> dmcglone: can you switch to the next desktop and finish dragging it?
[02:49] <dmcglone> :-( that don't work
[02:49] <dmcglone> yeah it does
[02:50] <dmcglone> I was looking on the wrong desktop for the other half
[02:50] <canthus13> Heh.
[02:50] <dmcglone> see told ya I should have been a blonde
[02:51] <dmcglone> now wait a second, it's not working
[02:51] <dmcglone> I take that back
[02:51] <Unit193> Would a UHour get axed for snow?
[02:51] <canthus13> Only if it's more than 11 feet.
[02:52] <canthus13> or something like that.
[02:52] <Unit193> If you can make it then come type of thing
[02:52] <Cheri703> Unit193: unless my truck can't get there (and I was sliding around coming up the hill on my way home), then I'll be there :)
[02:59] <Cheri703> I ALWAYS forget how to run a program that arrives as a .tar.bz2 >.<
[02:59] <canthus13> Extract it first.
[02:59] <canthus13> Archive manager. :)
[02:59] <Cheri703> did that
[03:00] <canthus13> No readme?
[03:00] <Cheri703> nope
[03:01] <canthus13> Hmm.
[03:01] <Cheri703> it is the rockbox install utility
[03:01] <Cheri703> husband said he's up for attempting it
[03:01] <canthus13> Yep.
[03:02] <canthus13> Think so.. I'd check the instructions, make sure that particular iPod is supported first.
[03:02] <Cheri703> it is
[03:03] <Cheri703> I can't remember the terminal command to run an "unknown file type" or whatever
[03:03] <Cheri703> it's the linux 32 bit version on their website
[03:03] <Cheri703> just fyi
[03:03] <canthus13> chmod +x <file>
[03:03] <canthus13> then ./<file>
[03:03] <Unit193> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPort
[03:03] <Cheri703> ahhhh
[03:03] <dmcglone> I just had a hard lockup again
[03:03] <Cheri703> I even thought of that -_- changing it to executable and then forgot by the time it was extracted >.<
[03:04] <Cheri703> well, it is marked executable :/
[03:04] <Cheri703> dang it
[03:04] <dmcglone> whats >.< ?
[03:04] <Cheri703> squinting in frustration
[03:04] <dmcglone> and how did you get get the previous one?
[03:05] <dmcglone> dvorak?
[03:05] <Cheri703> ..?
[03:05] <dmcglone> the one with the 3 lines
[03:06] <Cheri703> oh, -_- ?
[03:06] <dmcglone> yeah
[03:06] <Cheri703> hyphen underscore hyphen
[03:06] <canthus13> dash underscore dash
[03:06] <Cheri703> HYPHEN
[03:06] <Cheri703> not dash
[03:06] <Cheri703> >:O
[03:06] <dmcglone> Ah
[03:06] <Unit193> dash....
[03:06] <dmcglone> they both look the same
[03:07] <Cheri703> a name with a - in the middle is hyphenated, with a HYPHEN
[03:07] <Cheri703> only a dash if you're doing morse code
[03:07] <Cheri703> only a minus if you're doing math
[03:07] <canthus13> Meh.
[03:07]  * Cheri703 doesn't really care, just annoyed with this program 
[03:07] <canthus13> dash is the most efficient to type. :)
[03:07] <Cheri703> :/
[03:08] <Cheri703> I do not know how to run it :(
[03:08] <Cheri703> dmcglone: some people use >_< or -.-
[03:08] <dmcglone> Cheri703: run it using ./
[03:08] <Cheri703> or if they're doing/saying shady things, they use:
[03:08] <Cheri703> >.>
[03:08] <Cheri703> <,<
[03:09] <Cheri703> * <.<
[03:09] <Cheri703> like they're looking around with shifty eyes
[03:09] <Cheri703> I did that I think, will try again
[03:09] <dmcglone> if that don't work use sh
[03:09] <dmcglone> sh ./<filename>
[03:10] <Cheri703> I'm getting a permission denied, even with a sudo
[03:10] <dmcglone> then sudo chmod 777 <filename>
[03:10] <Cheri703> sh gives me a syntax error ( unexpected
[03:10] <Cheri703> ok
[03:10] <dmcglone> then sudo chown cheri.cheri <filename>
[03:10] <canthus13> 755
[03:10] <canthus13> Shouldn't 777 anything.
[03:11] <dmcglone> 755 will do, but we need to rule out permission problems
[03:11] <Cheri703> still permission denied on everything
[03:11] <Cheri703> on all variants
[03:11] <dmcglone> if it works we can change it to 755
[03:11] <dmcglone> where did you put the file at Cheri703?
[03:12] <Cheri703>  /downloads
[03:12] <Cheri703> but it's on a secondary partition, but I have permissions for everything afaik
[03:12] <Cheri703> will move it and try again
[03:12] <dmcglone> is that file owned by you?
[03:12] <dmcglone> Ah
[03:12] <dmcglone> thats the problem
[03:12] <Cheri703> it was/is owned, so is the partition
[03:13] <Cheri703> >.< now it's going
[03:13] <Cheri703> sorry boys
[03:13] <dmcglone> see
[03:13] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:13] <dmcglone> Cheri703: is the secondary partition vfat?
[03:14] <Cheri703> no, all ext4 I believe
[03:14] <dmcglone> what does your fstab file line for that partition look like?
[03:15] <Cheri703> uhm, I dunno
[03:15] <Cheri703> I'll worry about it another time, onto rockbox!
[03:15] <Cheri703> :D
[03:15] <dmcglone> type cat /etc/fstab in terminal
[03:15] <Cheri703> k
[03:16] <Cheri703> /dev/sda6                                  /media/TeoStorage  ext4  users,user           0  0
[03:16] <dmcglone> make it look like this: /dev/sdb8 /home/david/www ext4 user,auto 0 0
[03:17] <Cheri703> so user, auto instead of users,uxer
[03:17] <dmcglone> yes.
[03:18] <dmcglone> make sure you unmount the partition first
[03:19] <Cheri703> k, will that still let it automount when I restart?
[03:19] <Cheri703> (that's how it was set)
[03:19] <dmcglone> thats what the "auto" is
[03:19] <Cheri703> ok, it automounted before
[03:19] <dmcglone> it will still auto mount
[03:20] <Cheri703> k
[03:20] <dmcglone> the "user" is to give all permissions to the user
[03:20] <Cheri703> k
[03:21] <dmcglone> you need to unmount it as root and mount it as user now
[03:21] <canthus13> sudo mount -a
[03:22] <canthus13> Should do it correctly iirc.
[03:22] <Cheri703> wait, what?
[03:22] <dmcglone> sudo umount /media/TeoStorage then, mount /media/TeoStorage
[03:23] <dmcglone> to have full permissions as user, the user needs to mount the partition, not root
[03:23] <dmcglone> otherwise you will always have the problem like you did earlier
[03:24] <Cheri703> ok
[03:25] <dmcglone> now when you run scripts from that partition, they should run splendidly :-)
[03:25] <Cheri703> ok, awesome, thanks :)
[03:28] <Cheri703> wow I hate apple even more now
[03:28] <dmcglone> haha
[03:28] <Unit193> Why?
[03:29] <dmcglone> Unit193: ????
[03:29] <Cheri703> so in theory, I could just take the music and plop it into a different folder, accessible by rockbox, yes?
[03:29] <Unit193> dmcglone: Only used mu cousin laptop and old h/w
[03:29] <Cheri703> THEY MAKE THE NAMES/FOLDERS GIBBERISH SO YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT IT IS! even non-drm'd music, crap husband put on it outside of itunes
[03:30] <dmcglone> don't take it out on your husband ;-)
[03:30] <Cheri703> some modest mouse song (I know because I listened) is in folder F49 and titled: GOKB.mp3
[03:30] <Unit193> Holy crap....
[03:30] <Cheri703> FREAKING APPLE! so now he's going to have to RE transfer 15+gb of music >.<
[03:31] <Unit193> I have never used itunes
[03:31] <Unit193> never will
[03:31] <Unit193> Songbird
[03:31] <Cheri703> this wasn't even using itunes
[03:32] <Unit193> YEAH!!!!
[03:32] <Cheri703> oh, he did use itunes >.<
[03:32] <Unit193> Got PocketPutty to SSH into my router!!! (key and all)
[03:34] <Cheri703> very cool
[03:35] <Unit193> Very!
[03:36] <Unit193> You got Rockbox on?
[03:37] <Cheri703> yup
[03:37] <Cheri703> we're poking at it now
[03:38] <dmcglone> If I have 2 monitors running @ 1024x768 and I want wall paper that will stretch all the way across, what would I look for?
[03:38] <canthus13> Really wide wallpaper.
[03:38] <dmcglone> lol
[03:38] <canthus13> 2048x768
[03:39]  * canthus13 thinks gcalctool coulda figured out that one...
[03:39] <dmcglone> ok
[03:39] <jacob> or 2048xWhatever and crop it
[03:39] <dmcglone> I didn't know if I double the first or second number
[03:39] <jacob> Width x Height
[03:39] <dmcglone> I'm used to L x W
[03:40] <canthus13> dmcglone: Oh. yeah. it's always width x height
[03:40] <dmcglone> see
[03:40] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:40] <dmcglone> Ok
[03:40]  * dmcglone has done lost all sanity these days
[03:42] <jacob> x, y, z. x => width, y => height, z => depth, so there's your ordering
[03:43] <dmcglone> just confuse me more than what I'm already ;-)
[04:02] <BiosElement> Woot for elections being done. ^_^
[04:02]  * BiosElement sends paultag cookies for remembering to finish it :P
[04:04]  * Cheri703 is planning to make cookies this weekend :)
[04:06] <dmcglone> e-mail some to me please
[04:07] <dmcglone> I'm going to go get on the laptop
[04:14] <BiosElement> Ugh, seems a project of mine is gonna be taking my desktop apart to figure out which fan is making this noise. >.>
[04:17] <Cheri703> we got an awesome replacement fan (probably really common, but first one I'd seen like it), it had the 3 pin connector, but also a 4pin like ide hdd's
[04:18] <BiosElement> Hah awesome. Yeah I've needed to strip this thing down and clean it out for ages now, but naturally as long as it works I don't find the time. :P I just need to make time to fix things up nicely. It needs dusted out anyway
[04:26] <dmcglone1> BiosElement: aren't you afraid it'll overheat and burn up from all that dust?
[04:26] <BiosElement> dmcglone1, haha, if you saw my case you'd understand why I'm not worried about that. :P I just like to keep it clean and working well. ^_^
[04:28]  * Cheri703 's old desktop has no sides on it
[04:28] <dmcglone1> you said you have needed to clean it out for ages
[04:28] <BiosElement> lol, true. About 4 months is ages in my books ;P
[04:29] <dmcglone1> I don't have the face plate on my desktop
[04:29] <BiosElement> Heh
[04:29] <dmcglone1> I accidentally hot glued the CD rom doors shut LOL
[04:30] <Unit193PPC> nice one!
[04:30] <BiosElement> Ouch
[04:30] <Cheri703> how do you accidentally hot glue that?
[04:30] <Unit193PPC> mine randomly pop open...
[04:31] <dmcglone1> my case has like glass under the cd rom doors that light up, well one of them snapped out and I glued it back in along with the cd rom doors
[04:31] <Cheri703> ah
[04:32] <dmcglone1> I'm looking for a picture to better explain LOL
[04:32] <dmcglone1> so y'all don't think I'm a freak ;-)
[04:33] <Cheri703> mmhm
[04:33] <BiosElement> Too late, we already know you are
[04:33] <dmcglone1> http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.krunker.com/wp-content/HPMediaCenterPC7070nPhotosmartPC.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.krunker.com/2005/06/29/hp-media-center-pc-7070n-photosmart-pc/&h=326&w=275&sz=21&tbnid=Tz3GwPVUPbxAFM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhp%2Bmedia%2Bcenter%2Bpc%2Bimages&zoom=1&q=hp+media+center+pc+images&hl=en&usg=__Cx9cR8G5Vvpk5jMuv9V27iC26OA=&sa=X&ei=PSH3TK2tOY7oOf-gwMwI&sqi=2&ved=0CCEQ9QEw
[04:33] <dmcglone1> dang that was a LOOOOONNNNGGGG URL
[04:33] <BiosElement> lol
[04:34] <Cheri703> hooray google image links!
[04:35] <BiosElement> Here's my insane case: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?pno=tj07&area=usa
[04:35] <BiosElement> >.>
[04:35] <BiosElement> Spent more on that case then any single other part I think
[04:35] <dmcglone1> anyway, if you look at the little black windows built into the cdrom doors, them are lights
[04:36] <Cheri703> that is ridiculous BiosElement
[04:36] <dmcglone1> BiosElement: did you custom build yours?
[04:36] <BiosElement> Cheri703, Yes I know. ^_^
[04:36] <BiosElement> dmcglone1, Darn right I did. >.<
[04:36] <Cheri703> when I build a new computer, I will be getting the cheapest case that suits my needs
[04:37] <BiosElement> Thus the huge case. I wanted room to work and expand without having to ditch my case heh
[04:37] <Cheri703> makes sense
[04:37] <dmcglone1> I would, but I don't see the point because a high end processor costs the same amount as an equivalent already built
[04:38] <Cheri703> depends on where you get it, what you need, and the quality of the other parts
[04:38] <BiosElement> It was my first build and I knew I wanted to keep the case and just build on as I went so I figured it best to get a really easy to mess with case. I don't slice my fingers on it, it's easy to work in and a PITA to move so it's also rather difficult to steal :P
[04:38] <BiosElement> dmcglone1, newegg, newegg, newegg. Just sit and watch for good deals
[04:39] <dmcglone1> I see
[04:40] <BiosElement> dmcglone1, I built this a couple years ago that could basically run any game on the market for just under 1200 and that was with me wasting money on the case, a screen and a couple other things. >.>
[04:40] <BiosElement> And that wasn't an attempt at a budget gaming rig. I just wanted something that I wouldn't have to mess with for a bit
[04:41] <dmcglone1> what processor did you go with?
[04:42] <BiosElement> At the time an Intel 2.4Ghz Duel was the most cost effective. The price point jumped about $200 to 2.6Ghz. There's usually a pretty clear sweet point in price vs. performance
[04:42] <dmcglone1> true
[04:42] <dmcglone1> should have went with an AMD ;-0
[04:43]  * Cheri703 will go amd 
[04:43] <BiosElement> lol I've had a bad history with AMD. Anyway from the little I understand Intel's are better for tons of processes
[04:43]  * Unit193 had amd
[04:44] <BiosElement> Heck dmcglone1 2.93Ghz Duel Core Intel is just $120. Not a bad deal. Though honestly I'd go for a newer-gen rather then blow 120 on that at this point.
[04:45] <dmcglone1> I agree, and thats where they get you
[04:45] <dmcglone1> I have never owned an Intel
[04:46] <dmcglone1> I once had an intel integrated graphics card, it was crappy
[04:46] <BiosElement> Those are always crappy
[04:46] <BiosElement> >.>
[04:47] <dmcglone1> I stick with ATI
[04:48] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: which do you prefer?
[04:48]  * BiosElement is glad he doesnt have to mess with hardware often >.>
[04:48] <Cheri703> I currently have intel and ati, and probably will go amd and nvidia in the future :/
[04:48] <dmcglone1> Unit193: "had" does that mean you will not use again?
[04:49] <Unit193> That is a typo :( current main has it (not that good of one)
[04:49] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: why nvidia?
[04:50] <dmcglone1> Unit193: I see. what processor is it?
[04:50] <Cheri703> in theory it has less issues with linux and has better driver compatibility
[04:50] <BiosElement> Because nvidia kicks ass ;)
[04:50] <Cheri703> for example: my (admittedly old) ati card works perfectly under 10.04, 10.10 completely breaks it.
[04:50] <dmcglone1> I've never experienced nvidia. maybe i'll try one in the future
[04:51] <dmcglone1> both my ATI cards work fine with 10.10
[04:51] <BiosElement> So far I've had perfect luck with 3 nvidia cards
[04:52] <dmcglone1> well in that case, my next will be nvidia
[04:52] <Cheri703> I picked up a used nvidia card, but it was jacked up, so I had to return it
[04:52] <BiosElement> Heh I'd only suggest googling to make sure, but I've yet to have one that didnt and I only checked to make sure one worked :P
[04:53] <dmcglone1> well now you don't sound too confident on backing nvidia
[04:53] <dmcglone1> :-p
[04:54] <BiosElement> LOL I won't back 'any' one hands down :P
[04:54] <BiosElement> Anymore though both ATI/Nvidia are doing pretty good linux support wise
[04:54] <dmcglone1> so now the story changes ;-)
[04:55] <dmcglone1> lol
[04:55] <BiosElement> haha
[04:55] <BiosElement> I'm actually glad they're both keeping up and paying attention to linux users. It's kinda cool what both of them are doing.
[04:56] <dmcglone1> I may be losing my mind, but I've still got my wits ;-)
[04:56] <Cheri703> I will start with onboard video, THEN upgrade from there
[04:57] <Cheri703> my video needs won't be very high, and I like having a backup option
[04:57] <dmcglone1> BiosElement: I agree. years ago, just getting X to work was a job
[04:57] <BiosElement> Hmm...seems wikileaks founder Assange is in hiding from Interpol. >.>
[04:58] <Cheri703> is it just me or does he look like a pedophile?
[04:58] <BiosElement> lol he just looks pale
[04:58] <dmcglone1> where is this story BiosElement?
[04:58] <BiosElement> He looks odd but then so do lots of smart people. >.<
[04:58] <Cheri703> his hair bothers me as well
[04:58] <BiosElement> dmcglone1, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120106323.html
[04:58] <canthus13> Assange is a cretin.
[04:59] <BiosElement> lol, I find it funny how Sweden is yet again chasing after an international dude with a really iffy case
[04:59] <canthus13> Making a safe haven for whistleblowers is one thing.  Dumping huge numbers of state secrets, etc is something completely different.
[04:59] <BiosElement> First TPB where they had paper-thin charges and now Assage for a previousally finished case. >.<
[04:59]  * canthus13 wouldn't be surprised if some embarrassed government had him killed.
[05:00] <Cheri703> canthus13: there is a degree of transparency that is needed, and has been ignored for a LONG time
[05:00] <BiosElement> canthus13, Eh, I figure he gave them a chance. I'm perfectly willing to support someone doing it because if it wasn't him it'd be someone else for sure.
[05:00]  * Cheri703 is undecided on the wikileaks topic, even though he looks like a greasy pedo
[05:00] <BiosElement> canthus13, I don't dispute it's very morally ambigious but still I feel strongly that it's something that should have been done.
[05:01] <BiosElement> Cheri703, Hah
[05:02] <Unit193> dmcglone1: AMD Athlon 3800+ 2.40GHz
[05:03] <BiosElement> Oh and BTW Amazon stopped hosting wikileaks without a court order. So +1 for their censorship. >.> They could at least have had a backbone enough to make them get a court order like they would for pretty much anything else. >.>
[05:03] <Cheri703> yeah, I saw that one
[05:03] <canthus13> BiosElement: There was no reason for it other than to cause chaos.  None of these documents served any purpose other than stirring up trouble. I mean, seriously.  Posting memos about petty insults from french diplomats? seriously?
[05:04] <BiosElement> canthus13, There were more important things in there then what the press picks up on
[05:04] <BiosElement> canthus13, You gotta remember, the amount of info is huge. No single person could read through it all.
[05:04] <canthus13> BiosElement: Exactly. Including him. again, this amounted to nothing more than a petty little jerk craving more media attention.
[05:05] <canthus13> There *will* be fallout from this, none of it good or productive.
[05:05] <BiosElement> canthus13, He's not the kind of guy who wants media attention to begin with. Hell, he's avoiding media and rarely even appeared in-person even way before all this media coverage.
[05:06] <BiosElement> As for fallout, thats for time to tell. But it's also a rare insight to closed-door discussions that, while sometimes important to be secret, can also reveal major flaws with the system when reviewed by the general public. In in ideal would it wouldn't matter but sadly the world isn't ideal. :|
[05:08] <dmcglone1> wonder how he got a hold of these documents
[05:08] <BiosElement> dmcglone1, This batch? From a low-level intel operative apparently.
[05:09] <dmcglone1> I wonder if he does any hacking to get some of his stuff
[05:09] <canthus13> BiosElement: what is surprising is to see China take a relatively pro-US stance on this.
[05:09] <BiosElement> dmcglone1, No, not really. If there was even a spec of that, US would claim it. :P
[05:10] <BiosElement> canthus13, I've always thought China was progressing in a positive direction.
[05:11] <BiosElement> canthus13, Possibly thought tobe 'former U.S. Army intelligence analyst in Iraq'
[05:11] <BiosElement> Same guy who leaked a ton of other stuff a year or two ago apparently
[05:13] <dmcglone1> Ok well I'ma gonna hit the hay. I'll catch up with y'all tomorrow
[05:13] <BiosElement> Night dmcglone1
[05:13] <dmcglone1> Night
[05:13] <BiosElement> Actually I thinlk I'm off to sleep too, getting a bit late since apparently a friend is staying the night at 6 >.>
[05:57] <paultag> Anyone here a networking guy?
[05:58] <paultag> can someone review something for me ( providing you shut up about it ) ?
[05:58]  * Cheri703 is a wee bit of a networking woman
[05:58] <paultag> Cheri703, can you take a look at something and keep it quiet?
[05:58]  * canthus13 is.
[05:58] <paultag> canthus13, you too?
[05:58] <canthus13> Majored in it.
[05:58] <Cheri703> sure
[05:58] <Cheri703> canthus13: might be a more reliable source
[05:58] <paultag> ya'll let me know what you think
[05:59] <Cheri703> thaaaat'd be a canthus13 question...
[05:59] <Cheri703> but yeah, looks like it to me
[05:59] <paultag> damn.
[05:59] <paultag> thanks Cheri703 :)
[06:20] <canthus13> paultag: I'ma confirm your results tomorrow..
[11:05] <deejoe> ?
[12:23] <paultag> canthus13, let me know what you find
[12:23] <paultag> deejoe, I'll make this all public as soon as I hear back from who this is all about
[12:23] <paultag> deejoe, I want to let them try and deal with this, first
[12:24] <deejoe> fair enough
[12:24] <deejoe> a commendable approach
[12:26] <paultag> deejoe, it's really really serious, so I need to let them have a swing at it
[12:26] <paultag> deejoe, I filed a support ticket, I'll see what they say to that
[12:26] <paultag> if they fluff me off, I'm spreading this like crazy
[12:27] <deejoe> you and Julian Assange, baby
[12:29] <paultag> hahahahaha
[12:29] <paultag> deejoe, if a wiseass just-a-bit-older-then-a-fucking-teenager can figure this crap out, it's for shit sure someone else has
[12:31] <canthus13> paultag: Oh. they have.  Nobody that I've found has dug into it the same way, but it's been mumbled about on a few blogs.
[12:32]  * canthus13 did a little digging last night before bed.
[12:32] <paultag> canthus13, It's just as bad as using telnet nowadays, I mean, really.
[12:32] <paultag> canthus13, yeah?
[12:32] <paultag> canthus13, what did you end up finding?
[12:32] <canthus13> Yup.
[12:33] <canthus13> paultag: people pointing at the API documentation and passing mentions of it. nothing specific, and no packet captures that I could find.
[12:33] <paultag> canthus13, you'd think with such a large userbase someone out there would be ticked off
[12:34] <canthus13> Apparently not yet.  We should definitely make as much noise as possible about it, becuase it seems to be commonplace in the top 1000 sites.
[12:34] <paultag> canthus13, +1
[12:44] <paultag> BRB, class
[12:44] <paultag> much love
[15:44] <Cheri703> hello folks
[16:37] <TheErk> hola
[16:38] <Cheri703> hi
[16:53] <TheErk> Hey, how are you doing?
[16:53] <thafreak> Is there a city I can move to, where an announcement that a new form of life was discovered, DOESN'T get over shadowed by the fact that LeBron is in town?
[16:57] <Cheri703> I'm alright
[16:57] <Cheri703> ha, nice thafreak
[16:58] <Cheri703> I don't have tv service, so I have no idea of local current events...I just find the news online :)
[17:07] <paultag> canthus13, prod
[17:09] <thafreak> I don't watch tv either...but it's all anyone seems to be talking about on facebook
[17:09]  * thafreak thinks it's time to start dropping facebook friends...
[17:09] <deejoe> thafreak: thanks for mentioning that, I hadn't seen it yet
[17:10] <deejoe> that's some way-cool stuff, perhaps the most interesting thing in biology I've seen in . . . i don't know.
[17:10] <deejoe> hard to compare
[17:10] <thafreak> Even NPR this morning...it was all cavs crap
[17:10] <deejoe> if indeed this thing uses arsenate through and through instead of phosphate, that's fucking huge
[17:10] <deejoe> mind-blowingly huge
[17:10] <thafreak> I know
[17:10] <thafreak> NASA to hold pres conference live at 2pm today
[17:11] <thafreak> it's on my calendar...
[17:11] <thafreak> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10-167_Astrobiology.html
[17:11] <thafreak> link to their live streaming video is on there
[17:11] <deejoe> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/eureka/article7040864.ece <- from March
[17:12] <thafreak> nice
[17:12] <deejoe> holy carp
[17:12] <deejoe> so they haven't even done the announcement yet
[17:13] <thafreak> I guess they leaked info early
[17:13] <thafreak> they put that advisory out a few days ago...
[17:14] <thafreak> I still want to watch the actual press conference
[17:14] <deejoe> well, the link from March indicates what its about.
[17:14] <deejoe> I think the very fact of a press conference suggests "they found what they're looking for"
[17:33] <paultag> Oh shit
[17:34] <paultag> when's the NASA press release?
[17:34] <paultag> CRAP!!! I have class @ 2!
[17:34] <paultag> CRAP!
[17:36] <deejoe> paultag: no worries, mang.
[17:36] <paultag> :)
[17:37] <deejoe> if it's what we think it is, its probably been that way for <sagan voice>billions and billions of years</sagan voice>
[17:37] <paultag> hahaha
[17:37] <deejoe> it'll wait :-)
[17:37] <paultag> yes, but it's not often we get to hear it from NASA
[17:37] <deejoe> well, ok, maybe only millions and millions
[17:37] <deejoe> I sort of lose track after 7 or 8 orders of magnitude
[17:38] <deejoe> have to take my shoes and socks off and everything
[17:38] <paultag> deejoe, guesses speculate that they found life that's based on arsenic instead of the traditional organic materials
[17:38] <deejoe> arsenic instead of phosphorus
[17:38] <paultag> ahha
[17:38] <deejoe> if it's complete replacement, that's still massively huge
[17:38] <paultag> sucks we can't kill them and eat them
[17:39] <paultag> that was me being sarcastic
[17:39] <deejoe> all DNA has phosphorus, for a very boring and still monumental example
[17:39] <paultag> deejoe, yeah, I really want to watch it
[17:39] <paultag> deejoe, +1
[17:39] <deejoe> RNA is already more weird and more cool than anyone imagined
[17:39] <deejoe> if there's a version of it with arsenic in it, whoo boy
[17:46] <deejoe> http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101202/full/news.2010.645.html
[17:46] <deejoe> looks like someone broke the embargo
[17:49] <paultag> deejoe, awwwww, that was found in CA, not outerspace
[17:50] <deejoe> oh, there's a difference?
[17:50] <deejoe> sorry, i thought that bit was clear already
[17:50] <deejoe> the NASA funded researchers have been working with stuff from Mono Lake
[17:50] <paultag> heyo!
[17:50] <paultag> deejoe, ahha
[17:51] <paultag> deejoe, can't wait to see where this goes
[17:52] <deejoe> like she says at the bottom of the Nature paper:  There's at least 30 years worth a work here, now.
[17:52] <deejoe> it's very likely a new field
[17:52] <deejoe> well, a great big new place in several fields, at least
[17:54] <canthus13> paultag: eh?
[17:55] <paultag> canthus13, heard back from tumblr -- http://blog.pault.ag/post/2068245252/um-is-it-just-me-or-is-tumblr-sending-passwords-in
[17:56] <canthus13> Ok. Much better. :)
[17:56] <TheErk> Howdy peeps
[17:56] <deejoe> paultag: ITYM "URL" at the top of that there, instead of "UR"
[17:57] <paultag> deejoe, oh, good catch. Oh well, I guess UR works as well
[17:57] <deejoe> it does?
[17:57] <canthus13> paultag: I gather the post is public now.
[17:58] <paultag> Humm. Might be hard to justify that deejoe. true
[17:58] <paultag> canthus13, yeah
[17:58] <canthus13> ok.  I'm off to work.
[17:58] <paultag> canthus13, they have an ssl gateway
[17:58] <paultag> canthus13, righto, cheers. Tell your wife to use https :)
[17:59] <paultag> deejoe, fixed, thanks :)
[17:59] <deejoe> as alway, np, hth, hand, aeiou
[18:00] <paultag> :)
[18:00] <paultag> deejoe, hand :)
[18:01]  * Cheri703 is doing busy work today >.<
[18:02] <canthus13> collating, stapling, copying?
[18:02] <deejoe> fold, spindle, mutilate
[18:02] <Cheri703> no, scanning HUNDREDS of business cards into an ocr program, proofreading and verifying them
[18:03] <Cheri703> boss wanted me to do it on the friday after thanksgiving, I didn't because she's insane, I'm doing it today because I didn't want to go out anywhere (and have a justification ready for her), and I kind of hate her :/ she's had these for MONTHS, and she had said she'd have her kids do it, but...nope
[18:04] <Cheri703> I get to because I'm the pee-on...and she's crazy. :/
[18:04] <Cheri703> and a lot of people think they're clever by using crappy fonts, so I get to type it all in
[18:04] <Cheri703> >.<
[18:15] <Unit193> Is it a card scanner? or flatbed?
[18:16] <Cheri703> card scanner, so that helps, but I have to edit a LOT
[18:16] <Cheri703> and it takes quite a while to process them (luckily I can do it in batches, but still
[18:49] <canthus13> Cheri703: Hide a salmon steak under the driver's seat of her car.
[18:50] <Cheri703> might
[18:51] <canthus13> Or just an open can of tuna.
[18:52] <Cheri703> well, my current plan is "quit at the end of january, unless they agree to a remotely legal contract, and leave them TOTALLY SCREWED" :)
[18:52] <Cheri703> *end of december
[18:52] <canthus13> Hope you have something else lined up. (Speedway pays about the same... :(
[18:53] <canthus13> Otherwise, I'll let you know if we have something opening here.
[18:53] <Cheri703> well, I will have basically a month and a half of pay left, so I'll be good til mid feb if I have to
[18:53] <TheErk> I could use a french maid
[18:54] <canthus13> Ok.
[18:54]  * canthus13 straps on a black dress and ruffled skirt.
[18:54] <thafreak> who couldn't
[18:54] <canthus13> When do I start?
[18:54] <TheErk> Immediatley.. pick up that bar of soap.
[18:55] <canthus13> Heh.
[18:57] <TheErk> dude, after the relationship i just got out of the idea of being gay does not bother me at all
[19:46] <Cheri703> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333776/Spanish-woman-Angeles-Duran-claims-owns-sun--plans-start-charging-ALL-users.html
[19:52] <canthus13> Cheri703: I'm suing her for my sunburn last summer.
[19:52] <Cheri703> definitely
[19:52] <Cheri703> sun poisoning, melanoma
[19:52] <Cheri703> etc
[19:52] <canthus13> And the faded paint on my car.
[19:52] <Cheri703> all medical bills
[19:52] <Cheri703> ruined crops
[19:54] <canthus13> Drought.
[19:54] <canthus13> Damaged Satellites...
[20:11] <thafreak> She thinks she's smart cause "no one else thought about doing it"...maybe other people did, and then realized they'd be liable for damages
[21:14] <thafreak> LOL
[21:15] <thafreak> http://theinternettoday.net/news/fox-news-publishes-article-from-the-onion-as-real-news-then-removes-it-after-they-are-called-out/
[21:44] <BiosElement> E-P-I-C Fail
[21:54] <thafreak> UGH!! Seriously....my school is offering a mobile app development class...but they're doing it on the iphone SDK...FULL OF LAME!
[21:54] <thafreak> They had to get a lab with imacs in it just so people taking the class can do the work
[21:54] <thafreak> why the f**k not just use android! I mean seriously!
[21:55] <Unit193> I just got a 1TB HD in the mail!
[21:55] <Cheri703> thafreak: that sucks, Unit193: that's awesome :D
[21:56] <Cheri703> are you coming tonight Unit193?
[21:56] <Unit193> Still plan to (Mom will come for a bit)
[21:56] <Cheri703> very cool :)
[23:17] <Cheri703> Unit193: are you there?
[23:18]  * Cheri703 was a few minutes late and Unit193 isn't here :( don't know if I missed him, or if he's late too :/
[23:20] <Cheri703> he's here, woo! a "more than one person" ubuntu hour! :D