[00:38] Hey dmcglone [00:38] Hi Unit193 hows it going? [00:39] Playing in my router with SSH [00:39] hey [00:39] dmcglone: did that script work for you? [00:39] why SSH? why not just http [00:39] I added a line in mine to situate my normal one properly, if I restart with the external attached, it is dumb [00:39] SSH is more fun/you can do more [00:39] Not good Cheri703, I said forget it and I'm back to gnome [00:40] :/ [00:40] You don't use Kubuntu at all? [00:40] too many quirks in KDE, but overall it's good, just too tedious [00:40] Unit193: I was giving it a trail run. ran it for about a week. [00:41] Did you ever use Rekonq (Default browser)? [00:41] Desktop effects were screwed up and it would not remember my monitor settings [00:41] I don't recall [00:42] there were a couple times I clicked on a link and konq popped up, but I would close it and open it in firefox [00:42] did you use 10.10? [00:42] yes [00:42] I still have it installed, Just haven't logged in to it [00:43] it's just too unpredictable [00:43] I don't really have issues with it.... [00:43] it's a shame though, because it's looking nice, and the options are plenty [00:44] are you using dual monitors Unit193? [00:44] Can't :( [00:44] card doesn't support it? [00:45] DOn't have the ports [00:45] I see [00:45] I'm about to buy me another monitor.. LMAO [00:46] I would really love to have dual.... [00:46] This computer room is "My Domain". No Wife's Allowed! LOL [00:47] Unit193: graphics cards are relatively cheap these days [00:48] I've got to the point where if I had to go back to a single monitor I would cry [00:49] development is so much easier [00:49] Main computer is the family comp.... [00:49] Mine is too [00:49] dmcglone: it's hard for me to go from 10" + 20" back to 10" :( [00:50] Cheri703: take your 20" in the living room and hook it up to your netbook :-) [00:50] I do! [00:50] it's on a laptop stand next to the couch right now, hooked to netbook which is in my lap, and tv is hooked to desktop in the corner [00:50] also thats another reason I decided not to get a netbook [00:50] I like it for my portability [00:51] I got my behemoth HP for portability... LOL [00:51] heh [00:51] But for me, coming across computers is almost an everyday thing [00:54] the HP I got here it's jam packed loaded with card readers, dual monitor Nvidia, (HDMI) 2 HD's RCA jacks in back and front and back slot for removable tape drive and Svideo all for 200 bucks [00:56] it's funny I think about it and all my equipment is HP [00:57] I'll be back, I did an update and now my computer is having a winblows moment and is complaining it needs restarted [01:00] Ok, I'm back. I hate that stupid "login keyring" [01:00] Welcome back [01:00] sometimes I have to enter my password 2 times, sometimes 3 sometimes just once [01:01] you can clear that [01:01] yeah, I'm about to delete that crap :-) [01:03] how would you go about it Cheri703? I usually just delete the stuff in "passwords and encryption keys" [01:03] let me check, hang on [01:04] if you delete it, then it will come back to want another one, and you just leave it blank [01:04] will it prompt again? [01:05] after you leave it blank at the "create password" it shouldn't, it'll ask "are you sure you want to use unsafe storage" or something, then leave you alone [01:05] ok im gonna do that [01:11] Unit193: I've got rekonq up. What sets it apart from firefox? [01:12] I was just asking, I use firefox [01:12] I like the favorites [01:13] have you give it a look Unit193? [01:13] Not really [01:14] Just checking out the download of kubuntu and it listed that as new in 10.10 [01:14] it looks lean.. so lean it looks scary almost [01:14] the progress bar is the actual address bar [01:14] I miss N++ when using linux... [01:14] Like in FF4? [01:15] I don't like that... [01:15] I'm not familiar with FF4 [01:15] Firefox 4 Beta [01:15] I haven't seen that one yet [01:15] Don't bother.... [01:15] rekong has no menus [01:16] it seems to be using WebKit [01:16] I'll stick with firefox/midori [01:17] I don't blame you. You want a screenshot? [01:17] sure [01:17] Ok let me throw one up [01:19] Huh, it never fails. My Ubuntu One isnt working for some reason [01:20] Does it ever? [01:20] it was working fine earlier [01:21] Ah I needed to connect! How dumb of me [01:23] they make this crap look so easy in the video [01:23] lol [01:25] Ubuntu one isn't meant to work. [01:25] it's a tribute to Microsoft. [01:25] haha [01:26] my image is uploading right now [01:26] :-) [01:26] at least I think... LOL [01:26] it's got the transfer icon next to it [01:27] it's a really big image, so I think it'll take a second [01:33] Unit193: http://ubuntuone.com/p/RkK/ [01:33] it's so clean it's scary [01:34] dmcglone: Ever tested midori? [01:34] No is it any good? [01:34] small and fast [01:35] is it in the repo's? [01:35] yes [01:35] I'm gonna fetch it [01:37] here's an example of the day I've been having: [01:37] david@buddy:~$ sudo apt-get midori [01:37] [sudo] password for david: [01:37] E: Invalid operation midori [01:37] david@buddy:~$ sudo apt get midori [01:37] sudo: apt: command not found [01:38] sudo apt-get install midori [01:38] I know, I finally got my head on straight and typed it correctly [01:38] thats just an example of the mindless mistakes I've been making today [01:39] I should have been a blonde [01:39] LOL [01:39] heh [01:39] It's ok, your just old:-D [01:39] LOL [01:40] I'm surprised I at least typed my password correctly [01:40] sometimes I type my password wrong and I look at the computer like it's the computers fault [01:40] haha [01:41] it should know what you meant! [01:41] yeah! [01:42] it's supposed to be smarter than me [01:42] lol [01:44] Midori looks pretty good [01:45] so what tricks does it have up it's sleeve? [01:45] I hate it when it tries to be smarter... [01:47] it's supposed to be. After all, they build our cars, survey land, crash test, and the list goes on ;-) [01:50] paultag: is it me or are you signing on and off? [01:52] here's something funny, I'm on wireless and my router is in the next room against the wall my computer is on and I only get a 25% - 35% signal [01:57] Hmm maybe it is me. am I still here? I've been having a lot of dropped connections lately, so sometimes I'm not sure [01:58] you're here, I have join/part turned off, so I dunno if you're dropping out [01:59] paultag: just dropped in and out like 5 times on my buddy list, so it got me wondering [02:00] Unit193: have any idea what browser this dude is using? http://www.youtube.com/myubuntuone [02:01] he has ridiculous hair [02:01] LOL [02:01] pay attention Cheri703 ;-) [02:01] stay focused [02:02] lol [02:03] chrome or chromium [02:03] how can you tell? [02:03] a. the icon, and b. I used it for a while [02:03] is it any good? [02:05] it was ok. I prefer firefox, big things were nice in chromium, the little details were what sent me back [02:06] chromeium [02:06] ? [02:06] I see [02:06] bad typing [02:06] ah [02:06] hang on, brb [02:07] In the one image it has "Chromium didn't shut down..." [02:10] my "me" menu used to have my pidgin internet messenger, I just rebooted and now it's gone.. LOL [02:14] On the upside, U1 works, on the downside, I had to enter my password, on the upside I only had to enter it once.. [02:15] and on the other hand, but on the other hand, and on the other hand...ahh fiddler on the roof [02:15] puddi puddi! [02:16] downside...... one.ubuntu.com uses godaddy!!! damn I could give them better! ;-) [02:17] Could you give me a better one? [02:17] ;) [02:18] Do you know how to minimize rdesktop? [02:18] with a sledge hammer [02:18] ;-) [02:19] I can't remember [02:19] dmcglone: That's for fixing Windows. [02:19] I like the KDE RDP client better then LXDE/Gnome [02:19] canthus13: I use a jack hammer for that [02:20] Unit193: I know exactly what your talking about, I used it a lot a couple years ago, but I can't recall how to minimize it [02:20] I belive it was a key combo [02:20] let me think for a second [02:21] is it the one with the bug in it that would take up the whole screen and not let you get back to your desktop? [02:22] not even alt + tab worked [02:22] It's made for connecting to a win desktop [02:22] I know [02:23] I can't remember, i'll go google it for ya [02:23] CTRL+ ALT+F3 :) [02:24] hah, it's exactly what I went through. hit crtrl+alt+F* then go back to F7 [02:24] I ditched it real quick when I had to go through that [02:25] CTRL+ALT+Enter windows it [02:25] turns it into a window (how do you say that?) [02:25] you said it [02:25] LOL [02:26] any of you have a video ipod? [02:26] some call it "windowed" [02:26] that's it! [02:26] windowed it? [02:26] yeah [02:26] :D [02:26] no Cheri703 I try to steer clear of apple products [02:27] we were given a video ipod, and I'm trying to troubleshoot it [02:27] shocking [02:27] lol [02:27] Cheri703: did you try a hammer? [02:27] :) [02:27] there ya go canthus13 [02:27] Cheri703: What's up with it? [02:28] canthus13: it's apple, what else you need to know [02:28] rockbox? [02:28] dmcglone: :P [02:28] Unit193: I don't think rockbox will run on a video iPod. [02:28] you mean "crackbox" Unit193 [02:28] it a. has a short battery life, which is fixable (new battery $25 online), b. it does something strange where it'll cut out and/or freeze up, so no buttons can be pushed [02:29] rockbox f/w [02:29] what I'm trying to figure out is if this is a symptom of the battery getting low [02:29] Cheri703: Any firmware updates available? [02:29] it gets sluggish [02:29] hmm...good question [02:29] will check [02:29] But yeah, could be a low voltage condition caused by the low battery. [02:29] I'd fix the battery before doing any updates. [02:29] hmm...ok [02:29] why not update and then see? [02:30] Because the update might go bad because of the battery. [02:30] I agree, my laptop acts that way sometimes and the batter will not hold a charge at all [02:30] well, I can plug it in [02:30] Does it crash when plugged in? [02:30] do you get the same symptoms when plugged/ [02:31] oh. spend the couple of bucks on the case tool for the ipod, too. [02:31] yeah, the $25 kit comes with the tool [02:32] with my laptop, if I don't remove the battery completly, I still get the same symptoms when it's plugged in, so thats a thought [02:32] Ipod nano? [02:32] he is saying it didn't do it while plugged in at first, but now it does [02:32] 5th generation video ipod, 30gb [02:32] so we want to fix it :) [02:32] try plugging it in without the battery [02:32] guy at my brother's job gave it to him [02:32] battery is internal [02:32] it's still worth a shot [02:33] I don't want to be popping it open without the tool [02:33] Ah [02:33] and I want to make sure that paying for/replacing the battery will fix it, and I won't have the tool til I do that... [02:34] well, sounds like your screw** (hey just speaking my mind) ;-) [02:34] lol [02:34] well, we'll see, I'll poke at it [02:34] IF I tried rockbox on it, is it possible to put back on the original firmware? [02:35] Yep. [02:35] canthus13: You use it? [02:35] ok, might try it at some point, we'll see [02:35] It sets it up to dual boot. [02:35] nice [02:35] Unit193: No... I have a Creative ZEN Vision:M... No working rockbox available. :( [02:35] do you have to download the rockbox? [02:35] Sansa Fuze V1 [02:35] dmcglone: Nah. you will it into the player with your mind. [02:36] LOL canthus13 I'm talking about downloading rockbox on the ipod [02:36] or do you download it to a computer then transfer it? [02:37] none of the above? all of the above? I'm just crazy? [02:37] It seems to vary depending on the device. [02:37] The Rockbox Utility runs on Linux [02:38] I see [02:40] I can use my MP3 player as a HID :) [02:41] * canthus13 uses his mp3 player as a paperweight, mostly. [02:42] Any time I can listen to music, I have my laptop. Why bother with the MP3 player? [02:43] I don't listen to music very often. I've got 3 kids so when it's quiet enough to listen, all I want is silence [02:44] Woohoo. Woot-off! [02:44] I wish I had checked earlier. [02:44] I know I could take off my hearing aid, but heaven forbid someone chokes [02:44] I don't have a fully working laptop [02:44] dmcglone: Heh. [02:44] then the only music I'll be hearing is funeral music ;-) [02:47] is there a way to drag windows to another desktop without using compiz? [02:47] yeah. drag 'em. Or ctrl-alt-shift- to move it one desktop at a time. [02:48] when I drag windows to a screen edge, it won't switch desktops [02:48] dmcglone: can you switch to the next desktop and finish dragging it? [02:49] :-( that don't work [02:49] yeah it does [02:50] I was looking on the wrong desktop for the other half [02:50] Heh. [02:50] see told ya I should have been a blonde [02:51] now wait a second, it's not working [02:51] I take that back [02:51] Would a UHour get axed for snow? [02:51] Only if it's more than 11 feet. [02:52] or something like that. [02:52] If you can make it then come type of thing [02:52] Unit193: unless my truck can't get there (and I was sliding around coming up the hill on my way home), then I'll be there :) [02:59] I ALWAYS forget how to run a program that arrives as a .tar.bz2 >.< [02:59] Extract it first. [02:59] Archive manager. :) [02:59] did that [03:00] No readme? [03:00] nope [03:01] Hmm. [03:01] it is the rockbox install utility [03:01] husband said he's up for attempting it [03:01] Yep. [03:02] Think so.. I'd check the instructions, make sure that particular iPod is supported first. [03:02] it is [03:03] I can't remember the terminal command to run an "unknown file type" or whatever [03:03] it's the linux 32 bit version on their website [03:03] just fyi [03:03] chmod +x [03:03] then ./ [03:03] http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPort [03:03] ahhhh [03:03] I just had a hard lockup again [03:03] I even thought of that -_- changing it to executable and then forgot by the time it was extracted >.< [03:04] well, it is marked executable :/ [03:04] dang it [03:04] whats >.< ? [03:04] squinting in frustration [03:04] and how did you get get the previous one? [03:05] dvorak? [03:05] ..? [03:05] the one with the 3 lines [03:06] oh, -_- ? [03:06] yeah [03:06] hyphen underscore hyphen [03:06] dash underscore dash [03:06] HYPHEN [03:06] not dash [03:06] >:O [03:06] Ah [03:06] dash.... [03:06] they both look the same [03:07] a name with a - in the middle is hyphenated, with a HYPHEN [03:07] only a dash if you're doing morse code [03:07] only a minus if you're doing math [03:07] Meh. [03:07] * Cheri703 doesn't really care, just annoyed with this program [03:07] dash is the most efficient to type. :) [03:07] :/ [03:08] I do not know how to run it :( [03:08] dmcglone: some people use >_< or -.- [03:08] Cheri703: run it using ./ [03:08] or if they're doing/saying shady things, they use: [03:08] >.> [03:08] <,< [03:09] * <.< [03:09] like they're looking around with shifty eyes [03:09] I did that I think, will try again [03:09] if that don't work use sh [03:09] sh ./ [03:10] I'm getting a permission denied, even with a sudo [03:10] then sudo chmod 777 [03:10] sh gives me a syntax error ( unexpected [03:10] ok [03:10] then sudo chown cheri.cheri [03:10] 755 [03:10] Shouldn't 777 anything. [03:11] 755 will do, but we need to rule out permission problems [03:11] still permission denied on everything [03:11] on all variants [03:11] if it works we can change it to 755 [03:11] where did you put the file at Cheri703? [03:12] /downloads [03:12] but it's on a secondary partition, but I have permissions for everything afaik [03:12] will move it and try again [03:12] is that file owned by you? [03:12] Ah [03:12] thats the problem [03:12] it was/is owned, so is the partition [03:13] >.< now it's going [03:13] sorry boys [03:13] see [03:13] :-) [03:13] Cheri703: is the secondary partition vfat? === paultag changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-oh to: Welcome to Ubuntu Ohio! | See the calendar for event details! | LoCOhio rocks! | Join us at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-ohio | Do it! | Learn more about us at [03:14] no, all ext4 I believe [03:14] what does your fstab file line for that partition look like? [03:15] uhm, I dunno [03:15] I'll worry about it another time, onto rockbox! [03:15] :D [03:15] type cat /etc/fstab in terminal [03:15] k [03:16] /dev/sda6 /media/TeoStorage ext4 users,user 0 0 [03:16] make it look like this: /dev/sdb8 /home/david/www ext4 user,auto 0 0 [03:17] so user, auto instead of users,uxer [03:17] yes. [03:18] make sure you unmount the partition first [03:19] k, will that still let it automount when I restart? [03:19] (that's how it was set) [03:19] thats what the "auto" is [03:19] ok, it automounted before [03:19] it will still auto mount [03:20] k [03:20] the "user" is to give all permissions to the user [03:20] k [03:21] you need to unmount it as root and mount it as user now [03:21] sudo mount -a [03:22] Should do it correctly iirc. [03:22] wait, what? [03:22] sudo umount /media/TeoStorage then, mount /media/TeoStorage [03:23] to have full permissions as user, the user needs to mount the partition, not root [03:23] otherwise you will always have the problem like you did earlier [03:24] ok [03:25] now when you run scripts from that partition, they should run splendidly :-) [03:25] ok, awesome, thanks :) [03:28] wow I hate apple even more now [03:28] haha [03:28] Why? [03:29] Unit193: ???? [03:29] so in theory, I could just take the music and plop it into a different folder, accessible by rockbox, yes? [03:29] dmcglone: Only used mu cousin laptop and old h/w [03:29] THEY MAKE THE NAMES/FOLDERS GIBBERISH SO YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT IT IS! even non-drm'd music, crap husband put on it outside of itunes [03:30] don't take it out on your husband ;-) [03:30] some modest mouse song (I know because I listened) is in folder F49 and titled: GOKB.mp3 [03:30] Holy crap.... [03:30] FREAKING APPLE! so now he's going to have to RE transfer 15+gb of music >.< [03:31]