| ScottK | yofel: I just uploaded your -workspace changes to Natty. Thank you. | 00:33 |
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| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: thought you would like this... http://goo.gl/e49wT | 00:34 |
| ScottK | Nice. | 00:35 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1203016 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (5 files) Add an application launcher/installation-complete-notification dialog | 05:22 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna and yofel_: Thanks again for testing the de-halification stuff. It's all uploaded and should be default for new installs starting with tomorrow's daily. | 05:26 |
| === hunger_ is now known as hunger | ||
| kar | hello. someone used pykde.akonadi before? | 10:05 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: hi. Have you looked for my kdepim packaging? | 11:14 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: no still on the rest of kde 4.6 beta for now | 11:16 |
| kubotu | either you read or you think we're doing for 4.6 beta | 11:17 |
| Riddell | but with any luck that'll be ok this time round and we can publish then move onto other things like kdepim | 11:17 |
| Riddell | bwahahaha | 11:17 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: so publishing has to wait for the rest of 4.6 beta | 11:18 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: well I can only do one thing at once generally speaking :) | 11:20 |
| bulldog98 | :) | 11:21 |
| Riddell | but really it's going to work this time, so I can get onto kdepim shortly | 11:21 |
| ScottK | Riddell: dehalification is complete, so now it's just a matter of making sure problems get reported upstream. | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | qtcreator for maemo is just lovely | 11:58 |
| Riddell | awesomeness, upgrade to 4.5.80 on maverick worked without a single overwrite error | 12:06 |
| Riddell | I'll copy it to kubuntu-ppa/beta and announce | 12:06 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: yay, /me waiting in the starting blocks :) | 12:12 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: sorry for the delay, we kept finding problems | 12:13 |
| Mamarok | no problem, I can wait :) | 12:13 |
| Mamarok | I downloaded 4.5.4 in the meantime | 12:14 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: any problems? | 12:14 |
| Mamarok | not so far | 12:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: (See #ubuntu-devel for details) - Apparently doko uploaded a gcc fix for our Qt problems on armel last week, but didn't bother to mention it. I just retried it. | 12:27 |
| ScottK | The relevant debian/changelog entry was " * Revert Linaro issue #1259." | 12:27 |
| Riddell | ScottK: fingers crossed | 12:28 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 12:29 |
| eMyller | hey all. | 12:34 |
| eMyller | there was a package conflict yesterday (hupnp and libhupnp0); was it resolved? | 12:35 |
| Riddell | eMyller: you will have to remove hupnp | 12:44 |
| Riddell | that hupnp has never been in a public archive so there's no replaces/conflicts | 12:44 |
| eMyller | Riddell: yea, i removed it yesterday in order to install libhupnp0; but i wonder from where i got that | 12:45 |
| Riddell | from an old package in staging or ninjas | 12:45 |
| * apachelogger notes that jt's qapt-worker is much more reliable than maemo's | 12:54 | |
| apachelogger | hum | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | 62mib of archives, that is not too shabby for a mobile pim suite :O | 12:55 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what are you looking at? | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | kdepim-mobile | 13:02 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: publishing done for 4.5.80, want to be the first to test? | 13:03 |
| Riddell | sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta; sudo apt-get update; sudo dist-upgrade | 13:04 |
| Riddell | sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 13:04 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: where is that? | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | http://userbase.kde.org/Kontact_Mobile | 13:04 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Now I'm on to bugging doko about the per arch symbols files (that we shouldn't need). | 13:14 |
| Riddell | ScottK: presumably we have no idea why that happens | 13:14 |
| ScottK | No. It's gcc-4.5 madness of some kind. | 13:15 |
| ScottK | Perhaps we need to rename the "Upload toolchain" milestone in the development schedule to "Upload usable toolchain" for clarity. | 13:15 |
| ScottK | afiestas: We took the plunge yesterday and switched from hal to upower/udisks for the development release (with the 4.6 beta). | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | looks pretty good that mobile foo | 13:26 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: testing now | 13:26 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'm just compiling it now | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: I fear getting a class 10 microsd is going to be difficult | 13:27 |
| Riddell | steveire: do you know if any decision has been made on kontact mobile vs kontact touch? | 13:27 |
| * apachelogger finds kontact itself a rather silly name TBH | 13:27 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it is but it's better than KDE PIM | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | that for sure | 13:28 |
| Riddell | which shouldn't be used for user communication (similar to KDE SC) | 13:28 |
| steveire | Riddell: The latest on the mailing list indicates concensus forming around kontact ouch | 13:29 |
| steveire | touch* | 13:29 |
| steveire | :) | 13:29 |
| Riddell | freudian slip there? :) | 13:29 |
| * apachelogger schedules a visit to the shopping mall for tomorrow | 13:29 | |
| steveire | Seems so :) | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: out of interest, why can one not install kubuntu on the internal storage? | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | it is like flipping large | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | now | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | what pointless application could I write for maemo | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: suggestions? | 13:36 |
| dantti_work | apachelogger: I'm moving things to git in case you want to commit something to print-manager.. | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | hooray | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | I shall commit more then ^^ | 13:37 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: why do people still talk about maemo? isn't maemo dead? isn't meego the way to go? | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: as if that would matter with Qt? :D | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | <3 Qt | 13:38 |
| dantti_work | hehe :) libdebconf-kde is there already now I'm asking for a repo for apper and print-manager | 13:38 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: infact should you be talking about what application you could write for KDE Mobile? | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | for that I first need to get a KDE stack | 13:39 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Allegedly gcc is fixed, so arm stuff should start appearing in a few days. | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | groovy | 13:40 |
| * Riddell wonders if apachelogger has gained an N900 | 13:44 | |
| * Riddell gets lost in a twisty maze of dusty gpg packages | 13:47 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: Nightrose sent me hers, so I can take part in the mobile hype ^^ | 13:54 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | o/ | 13:55 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that was kind of her | 13:56 |
| Riddell | hi yofel, 4.6 beta 1 is in the beta PPA, Mamrok was testing but has disappeared, I wonder if we should be worried | 13:57 |
| yofel | I'll upgrade in a VM and see what happens | 13:58 |
| jussi | ScottK: you may want to join the LP efika groups (see the efika channel) | 13:59 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: any luck? | 14:01 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: serious problem: kded crashes on start, impossible to restart it | 14:01 |
| Riddell | rollocks | 14:01 |
| Mamarok | I had to use usb tethering on my phone as I can't use wireless anymore | 14:01 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: what happens if you start kded4 manually? | 14:02 |
| Mamarok | crashes immediately again | 14:02 |
| Mamarok | everytime I try | 14:02 |
| Mamarok | seems to be solid related, at least that's what the backtrace says | 14:02 |
| Mamarok | and I can't report the bug through Dr. Konqi either, as it needs kded to get a login on bugzilla | 14:03 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: are you on amd64? | 14:03 |
| Mamarok | yes | 14:04 |
| Mamarok | well, intel, but 64 bit | 14:04 |
| Riddell | yofel: done any testing on amd64? | 14:05 |
| Mamarok | here comes the backtrace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/539402 | 14:05 |
| Riddell | hmm, problem in the wacom tablet module? | 14:06 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: you don't have a wacom tablet module do you? | 14:06 |
| yofel | nope, well, yes.. in natty, but I only have one non-natty pc left, so I'll test in a VM now, but natty works fine | 14:06 |
| Mamarok | no, not at all | 14:06 |
| Riddell | hmm, I don't think we have a package with that file /usr/lib/kde4/kded_tablet.so | 14:07 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: what's the output of dpkg -S /usr/lib/kde4/kded_tablet.so ? | 14:07 |
| Mamarok | the console output says this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/539405 | 14:07 |
| Mamarok | it says: dpkg -S /usr/lib/kde4/kded_tablet.so | 14:08 |
| Mamarok | erm, moment, it says this: kde-config-tablet: /usr/lib/kde4/kded_tablet.so | 14:08 |
| yofel | I don't have that installed here if that helps ^ | 14:08 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: try apt-get remove kde-config-tablet | 14:08 |
| Riddell | the starting kded4 | 14:08 |
| cpatrick2008 | does anybody know when kde 4.6 beta 1 will be backported to maverick | 14:09 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: that worked | 14:09 |
| Mamarok | but where does it get that tablet stuff from? I never had a tablet here | 14:10 |
| allee | uhmm, natty amd64 alpha1 installer crashes after I add the user and press 'forward' :( | 14:10 |
| Riddell | cpatrick2008: it's available now but we're doing some more testing because problems keep cropping up, do you want to help test? | 14:10 |
| yofel | cpatrick2008: it's ready to be tested, ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta | 14:10 |
| Riddell | allee: with a backtrace? | 14:10 |
| cpatrick2008 | how would i help test | 14:10 |
| Riddell | cpatrick2008: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 14:11 |
| cpatrick2008 | ok i will report any bugs i find | 14:11 |
| allee | No. it start's X server again I assume because I see the login progress dialog ... | 14:11 |
| * allee start 'try kubuntu' again | 14:11 | |
| Mamarok_ | still no wireless, only tethering works automagically | 14:12 |
| allee | Ah that's natty in a maverick virtualbox host | 14:12 |
| === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok | ||
| Riddell | Mamarok: but you can log into a full session now? | 14:13 |
| Mamarok | let me try again, moment | 14:13 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: yes, this time it worked | 14:16 |
| Mamarok | still no way to connect to my wireless | 14:16 |
| Mamarok | wich usually works out of the box | 14:17 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: what happens when you try? | 14:17 |
| Mamarok | it shows the connection, but it doesn't connect | 14:17 |
| Mamarok | when I click on it | 14:17 |
| Mamarok | let me try making a new connection | 14:17 |
| allee | Riddell: in a kde session only installaters crashes but no backtrace. jockey-backend still running | 14:18 |
| Mamarok | nope, still no way to connect | 14:19 |
| * allee start ubiquity with --debug | 14:19 | |
| Riddell | Mamarok: hmm, no such problems here | 14:23 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: you can try logging out, rm ~/.kde/share/config/networkmanagementrc then see if it works | 14:23 |
| * yofel remembered that he has a maverick pc he could test this with and updates | 14:24 | |
| Mamarok | I will try later, right now I am in a discussion :) | 14:24 |
| Riddell | allee: if it still crashes report with ubuntu-bug ubiquity | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you mean Meego .... right? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | no | 14:26 |
| Riddell | he gained an n900 and is running maemo | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | yeah i know, but... meego is the future! | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | primarily Qt is the future and that runs on both | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | ... | 14:28 |
| * yofel agrees with apachelogger | 14:29 | |
| shadeslayer | yeah, but maemo is .... well.... obsolete | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | well | 14:29 |
| yofel | and maemo isn't that bad, I don't like the music player though | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | you wanted a suggestion ... | 14:29 |
| * shadeslayer thinks | 14:29 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so i heard theres alot of snow over there in europe :D | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | graz is drowning in snow! | 14:30 |
| * ScottK thought plasma mobile was the future. | 14:30 | |
| apachelogger | tooke me one hour to get home yesterday | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | today I got home with wet feet | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | they shut down gatwick airport a couple of days ago ... | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: and what technology is plasma made with? :P | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: have you seen the HTC Sense UI where the cloud floats in when its cloudy etc | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | no | 14:31 |
| ScottK | Qt, but not anything that starts with M. | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | why? | 14:31 |
| jjesse | a co-worker of mine does | 14:31 |
| jjesse | its pretty cool | 14:31 |
| jjesse | it snows when snowing | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: well, Qt is at its best if it has platform integration :P | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: ping | 14:32 |
| al | thunderstorm is the best animation on sense ;) | 14:32 |
| al | first time i saw it i thought the display was dying | 14:33 |
| Mamarok | al: not the right season now, but the screen freezing is nifty too | 14:33 |
| al | yea, it's nice | 14:33 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: how much snow do you have? must be about half a meter here | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | like 20cm | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | that 15 more than it should be | 14:34 |
| * ScottK thought Austrians were required to love snow? | 14:35 | |
| * apachelogger is not much of an austrian | 14:35 | |
| yofel | apachelogger: come to Stuttgart, we only have like 10cm here :P | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | nah, I like to have usable trainstations :P | 14:36 |
| Riddell | reminds me | 14:36 |
| yofel | lol | 14:36 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I may have to leave earlyish to get to canoeing session through the snow, are you at the release team meeting? | 14:37 |
| * apachelogger grabs his magic's microsd to see how meego works with that | 14:37 | |
| apachelogger | for some reason it does not have the class written on it | 14:37 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Sure. | 14:37 |
| jjesse | we have 12.7 cm in michigan today | 14:37 |
| ScottK | Well if the trainstation people in Austria haven't learned to anticipate and deal with the fact that there will be snow in Austria, I think that's hardly the snow's fault. | 14:37 |
| al | the trainstation issue in stuttgart (which is in germany, not austria) has nothing to do with weather but politics though ;) | 14:38 |
| yofel | ScottK: he meant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_21 | 14:39 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 14:39 |
| Riddell | ScottK: here's my notes http://paste.ubuntu.com/539420/ | 14:41 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Got it. Have a nice canoe. | 14:41 |
| Riddell | cpatrick2008: any luck? | 14:43 |
| ScottK | al: Our local controversy is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercounty_Connector | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | they took down wikileaks ... not good .... | 14:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: who's they? | 14:43 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: You're in favor of allowing copyright violations? | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: they == DNS hosting service .. | 14:43 |
| al | ScottK, seems it's been less violent so far ;) | 14:44 |
| ScottK | Yes, but it's taken at least as long. | 14:44 |
| * apachelogger boots meego | 14:44 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: copyright violations? are you talking about amazon ? i just liked wikileaks because id get my daily dose of political leaks from there | 14:44 |
| allee | Riddell: rekonq crashes when started via ubuntu-bug | 14:44 |
| * shadeslayer runs | 14:44 | |
| ScottK | IIRC they started planning it in 1975. | 14:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: good thing there are 50 other domains pointing at it (e.g. http://wikileaks.eu/) | 14:44 |
| cpatrick2008 | @Ridell got it installed but when i try to install the extras package in rekonq the QApt Batch Installer says it is wating for authorization but wont put up anything for me to put my password in | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yeah ... they got a new domain now.. in Switzerland .. | 14:45 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: they've always had loads http://wikileaks.info/ | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | couldnt open it from my phone tho | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | meego time is off ^^ | 14:46 |
| Riddell | cpatrick2008: ok I've had that problem too, haven't worked out where to report it yet | 14:46 |
| Riddell | cpatrick2008: any other issues? | 14:46 |
| jjesse | wikileaks.info lists the alternate sites | 14:46 |
| cpatrick2008 | none so far | 14:46 |
| shadeslayer | allee: can you pastebin the backtrace? | 14:46 |
| Riddell | cpatrick2008: able to connect to wireless ok? | 14:46 |
| cpatrick2008 | yes | 14:46 |
| Riddell | cpatrick2008: great, thanks for testing | 14:47 |
| cpatrick2008 | no problem | 14:47 |
| * shadeslayer needs to write a Desk Clock for android | 14:47 | |
| shadeslayer | the default one sucks | 14:47 |
| allee | shadeslayer: rekonq or ubiquity? | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | brrr, this micosd feels like class 2 | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | allee: rekonq | 14:48 |
| afiestas | ScottK: I know, I read kubuntu-devel | 14:49 |
| ScottK | afiestas: Ah. Cool. | 14:49 |
| afiestas | we just implemented video support for it (webcams and v4l2 devices) | 14:49 |
| ScottK | afiestas: In any case, thanks for that. | 14:49 |
| afiestas | tomorrow I will probably implement dvb if nobody else does | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, shadeslayer: meego is not much of a target platform right now | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | very alphaish | 14:50 |
| allee | shadeslayer: run: rekonq -> window pop up and crashes immediately: http://pastebin.ca/2009619 | 14:52 |
| afiestas | ScottK: pinotree just told me that dvb is alreay done :) | 14:52 |
| allee | ups wrong 'selection' | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | allee: thats all you get in the backtrace? | 14:54 |
| allee | shadeslayer: I should have installed paste plasmoid in virtualbox. Redoing ... | 14:55 |
| cpatrick2008 | Riddel: when i try to run Nepomuk Backup i get the following error message the Nepomuk Backup service does not seem to be running . Backups cannot be handled without it | 14:57 |
| allee | shadeslayer: much better: http://paste.ubuntu.com/539429 | 14:57 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | \o | 14:58 |
| ari-tczew | Quintasan: o/ | 14:58 |
| yofel | cool, upgrade to 4.6 maverick beta worked fine on my eeePC :D | 14:58 |
| ari-tczew | Quintasan: I left gnome for kde yesterday :P gnome in natty sucks | 14:58 |
| Quintasan | cpatrick2008: Did you try restarting nepomuk? It crashed at startup for me | 14:58 |
| cpatrick2008 | how do i restart it | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: help with backtrace here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/539429/ :: looks like a webkit issue right? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | do I have a suggestion yet? | 14:59 |
| yofel | and wireless works fine | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i told you .. a weather app of sorts | 14:59 |
| Quintasan | cpatrick2008: System settings -> Desktop search | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | like HTC have on their sense ui | 14:59 |
| yofel | hey Quintasan | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: there are weather apps! | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | Re-check Enable Nepomuk option | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | something innovative would be good | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | yofel: \o | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: not *any* weather app | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | hold on | 15:00 |
| * apachelogger does not like wasting time on things that already exist anyway | 15:00 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUCP_ixDCNo | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | cpatrick2008: Re-check Enable Nepomuk optio | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that requires changes to teh platform | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | + it already exists | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | it does... hmm | 15:02 |
| cpatrick2008 | did that stll cannot use it | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | fullscreen app would be doable without changes to that | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | but the effort with such a app lies in the graphics creation | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | not the technical part | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | Sput: quassel crash : http://pastebin.ca/2009630 | 15:03 |
| * yofel wonders why they only left 3 power profiles. Ok, it's enough, but at least the presentation one made sense | 15:03 | |
| apachelogger | so | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | meego was a great waste of time | 15:03 |
| * Riddell still says power profiles shouldn't be needed | 15:03 | |
| * apachelogger tries to get kubuntu going on that crappy card of his | 15:03 | |
| yofel | Riddell: what would you use instead? | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | oh oh | 15:04 |
| Quintasan | *!@#$!@ flash | 15:04 |
| al | shadeslayer, afaics quassel doesn't even show up in that stacktrace | 15:04 |
| Quintasan | doesn't work on firefox wtf | 15:04 |
| al | so it's not to blame :> | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: how much time will it take to port plasma mobile to a HTC Desire ? :D | 15:04 |
| cpatrick2008 | Quintasan: checked it and applyed it and stll get same error message | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | tons probably | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the question should be how much time will it take to port kubuntu mobile | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | cpatrick2008: did you try restarting your PC? | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | al: idk ... quassel just crashed and Dr. Konqi says quassel irc crashed ... etc | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | plasma mobile will not work on android since it still depends on QWidgets here and there | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | and Qt lighthouse for android can only draw a graphicsscene IIRC | 15:05 |
| cpatrick2008 | i will do that then let you know if it works | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | al: looks like a QGraphicsView crash | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why do you have so incredibly incomplete straces? | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | s/view/scene | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: It's just me or rekonq crashes on almost every page? | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: *shrug* | 15:06 |
| * apachelogger notes that we do not see the problem | 15:06 | |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: its just you :P | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | the stack trace contains an assert | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | however the part where the assert is raised is not known | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | because shadeslayer posts useless stacktraces :P | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: also possibly because i dont have enough debug symbols | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | hold on | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | which stacktrace are you talking about? | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | obvoiusly | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the quassel one | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | ohk | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | the other one is completely too | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the other one isnt mine ... | 15:07 |
| * apachelogger wonders why he only gets 100kbps for the mobile image | 15:08 | |
| apachelogger | my flat mates are watching pr0n again!!! | 15:08 |
| * shadeslayer would love to get 100KBps for anything | 15:08 | |
| * apachelogger was already wondering why it was so silent | 15:08 | |
| apachelogger | if android started any slower.... | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | whut! ... starts up in 10 seconds here ... | 15:11 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: thanks, that did work :) | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you haz obsolete phone ... | 15:12 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, hum... do you know the hardware spec? | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: yeah! i have the hardware :P | 15:12 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, did you buy that microsd? | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: no | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | tomorrow | 15:12 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, nice | 15:12 |
| * apachelogger needs to drive like an hour to get to a store that potentially offers class 10 | 15:13 | |
| apachelogger | also I wanted to go shopping tomorrow anyway... | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: so you can boot a custom meego image on the device, idk how, but its on the meego wiki | 15:13 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, is it an armv7? | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: I tried meego with the 2gb card though | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | Qualcomm | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | utter crap :D | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: what kubuntu mobile image do I download though? omap3 or 4? | 15:13 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, too slow? | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire-3077.php | 15:13 |
| cpatrick2008 | Quintasn: restarting my computer did the trick | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: no, meego itself is just completely unfinished and stuff | 15:14 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, omap3 | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | platform support is also not finished | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | e.g. it did not detect the battery or simcard | 15:14 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: ok good, although a mystery since network-manager won't have been upgraded | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | widgets are sometimes a bit misrendered | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | strings are prefixed with !!... | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dummy plasmoids .... no *real* plasmoids as such | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | does it make calls :P | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: plasma mobile doesnt have dummy plasmoids | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | also I was talking about meego | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | uh .. yes it does | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | ohk | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: like what? | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | but plasma-mobile does have dummy plasmoidds | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | -d | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: like the contacts plasmoid | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | or whatever its called | 15:16 |
| rbelem | plasma-mobile has a plasmoid which manages to make calls | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | and that is all that counts | 15:17 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 15:18 |
| rbelem | it is an armv7 :-) | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | kewl :D | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | is that a good thing or a bad thing :P | 15:18 |
| rbelem | good thing :-) | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | ok... how do we proceed then ^_^ | 15:19 |
| rbelem | need to check how to hack the boot loader | 15:19 |
| rbelem | and get the kernel drivers | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: theres something called unrevoked | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | but they only have the binary file available for download | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: ^^ time to jump in | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: so, I was scrolling through startkde yesterday, and I am afraid that there is not terribly much we can improve it with | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | possibly implementing it in c++ would help | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | elimintaing all the helper apps startkde requires | 15:21 |
| Riddell | gnome people keep talking about using upstart for gnome-session | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | but startkde really does not do much anyway, the heavy lifting is done in ksmserver :S | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: how would that work? | 15:22 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, is it used to hack the bootloader? | 15:22 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, :-( | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: yeah, its used to boot custom android ROM's | 15:22 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: upstart would start the various things needed by the gnome session | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | so i suppose i can be used to boot other stuff | 15:22 |
| Riddell | revu needed! http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libassuan2[B[B[B | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, but what is the point of that? | 15:22 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: dunno | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 15:23 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, plasma-mobile is taking too long to start too | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: well | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | it is plasma | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | ... | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | plasma also takes longest to start on a desktop | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | like 90% of the time ksplash is shown plasma is actually building itself | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | (on that note: did anyone notice that login takes super long if autoconnection to a wifi is on) | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | seems plasma blocks until the connection is established (or not) | 15:24 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, i think we need to profile ksmserver, plasma-desktop and others to check where is the bottleneck | 15:27 |
| yofel | if you make it faster I'll get you a beer, here it takes almost a minute from kdm to working desktop :/ http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/bootchart/yofel-t510-natty-20101202-1.png | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: plasma-desktop | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | its main limitation is actually known | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | its startup depends on plasmoids | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | i.e. plasmoids do not get lazy initialized or even delayed initialized alltogether | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | (like the battery plasmoid could really be started once everything else is up | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | ) | 15:30 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, maybe talking with the unrevoked guys http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3 | 15:30 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, they could point us how to use the hacked bootloaded | 15:31 |
| rbelem | and build the kernel with the right patches | 15:31 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, :-( | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: yeah .... theres a vid of meego running on the desire, so imo, it shouldnt be *very* hard to do it | 15:32 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - More friendly than Frosty | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ||
| rbelem | apachelogger, we could work to solve this problem. Is there already a possible solution? | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | will take time tho | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: not that I know about | 15:33 |
| rbelem | :-D | 15:33 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, plasma-mobile is taking soo, sooo long to start :-( | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | plasma is rather fat | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | ... | 15:35 |
| rbelem | i dont know how much time it will take in microsd class10 | 15:35 |
| rbelem | i was using class 2 :-P | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: I would expect that most stuff is really hogging the CPU and not the card | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | needs checking though | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | cachegrind, callgrind and massif to the resuce ^^ | 15:36 |
| rbelem | they are working on arm now :-) | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | still I wouldnt want to use them there :P | 15:37 |
| Riddell | steveire: "Note that you have to enable KDEPIM_MOBILE_UI if you want to run these applications on a mobile device." what's the difference? | 15:37 |
| * apachelogger ponders doing his PoC implementation of a phonon graphicsscene video player on maemo | 15:38 | |
| apachelogger | certainly takes away the resizable-window use case | 15:38 |
| steveire | Riddell: Some widgets are different in their .ui files etc for maemo colors/styles and aspect ratio iirc. | 15:39 |
| steveire | And you get an event editor suitable for touch screens, rather than the regular korg one etc | 15:39 |
| Riddell | steveire: why is notes-mobile not knotes-mobile? | 15:41 |
| steveire | We introduced inconsistency to keep you on your toes. | 15:42 |
| steveire | That was brought up recently actually. I guess we should change it. | 15:42 |
| steveire | I'll look into it later. | 15:42 |
| Riddell | steveire: are they also likely to be renamed to e.g. kmail-touch ? | 15:43 |
| steveire | That remains to be seen I think. The discussion around these things is ongoing on the pim and mobile mailing listts. | 15:43 |
| Quintasan | lol debian magic | 15:44 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, where android lives.. we can live there too. if it is arm v6 or v7 :-) | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | I installed it and after reboot I get grub_xputs error | 15:44 |
| steveire | Hopefully it will all be sorted out by next week. | 15:44 |
| Riddell | steveire: ok I'll keep the packaging as -mobile for now, it's only going in a PPA so not that important | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also we can actually be fast :P | 15:44 |
| steveire | Ok. | 15:44 |
| steveire | When will that be? I'll point people to it for testing. | 15:45 |
| steveire | Is it natty only? | 15:45 |
| Riddell | steveire: we'll do maverick too | 15:46 |
| steveire | Use the most recent Qt you can btw. Some fixes are only in Qt 4.7.2 | 15:48 |
| ScottK | Is that released? | 15:50 |
| steveire | Nope. | 15:51 |
| steveire | Just use Qt 4.7.1 I guess | 15:51 |
| steveire | I don't think there's even betas of 4.7.2 yet. | 15:51 |
| ScottK | We've got 4.7.1 + patches in Natty now. | 15:52 |
| cpatrick2008 | is the qt4.7.1available in maverick | 15:54 |
| Riddell | cpatrick2008: no | 15:54 |
| cpatrick2008 | ok thanks | 15:54 |
| Riddell | yofel: kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6-beta-1 | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: kewl :D | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: it would be supreme if we can cover as many devices as possible | 16:00 |
| Riddell | 4.6 beta 2 tars are due yesterday by the way :) | 16:00 |
| yofel | Riddell: :D | 16:00 |
| yofel | hehe | 16:00 |
| yofel | not much of a break ^^ | 16:00 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, the major problem are kernel drivers and bootloader | 16:04 |
| ScottK | Riddell: You're hanging around for the release time meeting? | 16:05 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I'm here for another 55 mins | 16:06 |
| ScottK | OK | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: hmm... ill contact unrevoked :) | 16:06 |
| Riddell | so depends where we are on the schedule | 16:06 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think Bug #684703 is worth mentioning. | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 684703 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) "Generated symbols different on different archs with gcc-4.5" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/684703 | 16:07 |
| ScottK | Getting that fixed will make it a lot easier to get all archs built. | 16:07 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, cool :-) | 16:07 |
| ScottK | It affect C++, so I doubt anyone else will care. | 16:07 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: this is for kdepim if you are able to do a review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libassuan2 | 16:09 |
| === dbarth is now known as davidbarth | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: cant we just rebuild the beta packages against kde 4.6 for now? | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | or are there build failiures | 16:14 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what if people aren't using 4.6? | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | erm.. so how will you handle 2 KDE PIM beta packages for maverick? one in the experimental PPA and the other in .... | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | ( built against 2 different KDE versions ) | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | wow | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: does there need so much stuff on the mobile image? | 16:16 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: good question | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | oh my oh my.... i have to write about Qt for my magazine ... | 16:19 |
| Riddell | your magazine? | 16:19 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, we need to split the packages, kdebase-workspace-bin is one of them | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | nah | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | I mean other than that | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: im the editor of my departmental magazine | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | there is like plenty of kdegames | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | and kdeedu | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | and stuff | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | which has a total of .... 10 readers :P | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | ktouch? | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | kmag? | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | ... | 16:20 |
| Riddell | kalgebra needs split | 16:20 |
| Riddell | there's a kalgebramobile now | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.... | 16:20 |
| KukuNut | zsync is not updating the plymouth splash..still showing kubuntu 10.10? | 16:20 |
| Riddell | although it didn't know the answer to 2-2.01 when I tried | 16:20 |
| Riddell | KukuNut: what does zsync have to do with plymouth? | 16:21 |
| apachelogger | that is a tricky one anyway | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | KukuNut: uh .. what | 16:21 |
| KukuNut | Riddell: I use zsync to get the alpha iso and still shows 10.10 | 16:21 |
| Riddell | KukuNut: so it's the daily iso which hasn't been updated | 16:22 |
| Riddell | KukuNut: indeed I don't think anyone has changed that | 16:22 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why a splash needs to show that anyway | 16:22 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I think it's in the text only theme | 16:23 |
| Riddell | we could remove it I suppose | 16:23 |
| KukuNut | i don't care much about plymouth..just letting you know :) | 16:23 |
| * rbelem needs to figure out what files plasma-mobile really needs | 16:23 | |
| Riddell | "just finished uploading the first set of KDE 4.6 Beta2 tarballs." | 16:24 |
| Riddell | joy! | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: they didnt give MD5 sums | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | or do they give those only on re-uploads? | 16:24 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: they're also a day late. want to propose yourself as new KDE release dude? | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | lol .... | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | no thanks :P | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ...suggetions... | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: for a app? | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | yes | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | does maemo have a ubuntu one app :P | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | because android does | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: if dirk allowed me to make him a release script this would all be way more efficient... | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | so does windows apparently | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: innovation!!!! | 16:26 |
| * apachelogger beings to think that shadeslayer is not very creative | 16:26 | |
| * rbelem goes to lunch | 16:27 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: hmm ... i dont have access to the maemo market or whatever its called, so i cant really tell whats available and whats not | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: if it is on one platform it is not innovative! | 16:27 |
| shadeslayer | whats on one platform ? | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | any platform | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | is one platform | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | you mean you want a app that no other platform has? | 16:29 |
| * yofel found u1sdtool amusing, tried to connect my kubuntu machine, got to the point where it said to check mail for verification code... never got a mail | 16:29 | |
| apachelogger | primarily I want something new | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | yofel: probably ended up in spam, where it belongs | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | hehehe | 16:29 |
| yofel | apachelogger: I checked every folder, well, maybe u1 recognised itself as spam and never sent the mail XD | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | nah | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | it is not smart enough | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: can you make a remote control app that controls your media player such as amarok ? | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | on your PC | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | ( not the TV ) | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | like Dell usually have remotes etc with their laptop | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | sort of replicate that functionality ... | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | video | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | sounds interesting | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | dont have a video | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | but basically, turn your phone into a remote | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | to control your pc, via the infrared port | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | infrared is very 1990's ^^ | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | bluetooth is the new star | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | well... either that or bluetooth | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | oh oh oh | 16:35 |
| Riddell | Umbrello Mobile! | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | a remote for presentations | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: dream on :P | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | it does not even work on a desktop... :P | 16:35 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - More friendly than Frosty | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Let's package beta 2! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | ||
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: android has something for controlling your mouse etc | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer | but nothing to control media playback | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | well | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | silly android | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | since it has no IR port, and no one thought about doing it over BT | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | one needs an app with plugin capability | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | either way, i think it would be pretty kool if you can integrate the media player on your mobile device with amaro | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | *amarok | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | better yet | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | amarok on your mobile phone :P | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | so you get the song playing on amarok onto your phone and you hit pause and the song on your PC gets paused | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | meh | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: even if it was free i wouldnt buy such a app | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: there is an amarok plugin for that actually | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | because amarok is awesome for PC's | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | works over the websss | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | its called MPD right? | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | or something like that | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: oh btw what needs fixing in the kubuntu-web-shortcuts package | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | apart from the URL thingy | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | i uploaded a transitional package in the ppa | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | oh | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | nothing I think | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | if the transition is well that is | 16:42 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why madde doesnt have qt47 | 16:42 | |
| shadeslayer | eh .. whats that? | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | maemo app something envrionment | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | didnt thiago say they released qt 4.7 for maemo recently | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | with a update or something | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | yes | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | I have that | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | but for some reason the madde doesnt list a 4.7 target | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | nokia qt sdk also wants to install the 4.6 toolchain | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/meego-contest | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | oh oh oh | 16:53 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Have a nice canoe. | 17:02 |
| Riddell | thanks ScottK, I may need to caboggan my way to get there | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ooh nice | 17:07 |
| yofel | Riddell: could you upload kdeartwork to natty btw? the other things should already be there I think | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dont you think they would have recieved the first 50 entries? | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I can still get 2k? | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | that will get me 10 SSDs | 17:10 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:10 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 17:10 |
| shadeslayer | 2000 USD ... zomg | 17:10 |
| yofel | Riddell: actually kdebase is missing too | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: gsoc is hard work compared with this... | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 17:12 |
| * shadeslayer plans to do a GSoC project in 2011 | 17:12 | |
| JontheEchidna | grr, wifi is crappy here | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | ubuntuone for kde? | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: lucky you, I do not even have wifi | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ likewise here | 17:13 |
| * apachelogger shall buy a new device tomorrow | 17:13 | |
| JontheEchidna | I'd take a wired connection honestly. This wifi connection keeps dropping frequently | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: new device? | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | what new device now | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: possibly bookmark sharing in konqueror with myowncloud | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | using libattica | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | waiy | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | wait... | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | zomg .. i said konqueror | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | s/konqueror/rekonq | 17:15 |
| * JontheEchidna found an ethernet cable | 17:15 | |
| * apachelogger huggles JontheEchidna | 17:18 | |
| * apachelogger huggles kronos | 17:18 | |
| * apachelogger huggles shadeslayer | 17:18 | |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: btw, did your GSOC project include some generic Qt-UbuntuSSO bits? | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: depends on what you mean by generic? | 17:19 |
| cpatrick2008 | i upgraded to natty and my taskbar is funny here is a screen shot of my taskbar http://tinypic.com/r/vp9195/7 | 17:19 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: like, could Muon use it for login if it wanted to allow users to buy things from canonical's software store? | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | in the ultimate hardcore hacking week I did past gsoc I implemented a kde (or was it Qt?) ui for the new ubuntuss | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: technically | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ubuntu-sso has a sort-of ui/backend seperation right now | 17:20 |
| JontheEchidna | cpatrick2008: looks like a video driver issue. intel? | 17:20 |
| cpatrick2008 | yes | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | so all you need is to stack a kdeui module into the backend | 17:20 |
| JontheEchidna | cpatrick2008: I'm having some of the same corruption. (I've had to turn off desktop effects) | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | for technical reasons I did not come to know whether my ui actually works | 17:20 |
| cpatrick2008 | ok thanks | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | it is c++ and exported as pyth0rn module using SIP | 17:21 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why routing the n900 does not work properly | 17:21 | |
| cpatrick2008 | turned off desktop effects going to restart to see if it works brb | 17:22 |
| JontheEchidna | I am thinking that for my GSoC I could maybe pick up on the SSO stuff where you left off, and then implement canonical's "For purchase" channel in to the Muon Software Center | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | or rather, it is routing it but somehow the nslookups fail | 17:22 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, check the /etc/resolv.conf | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: sounds like a reasonable plan | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: well it is empty | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | then again | 17:23 |
| * apachelogger connects to 3g | 17:23 | |
| rbelem | :-D | 17:23 |
| * shadeslayer huggles apachelogger | 17:23 | |
| apachelogger | rbelem: doesnt really change with 3g either | 17:23 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, copy the resolv.conf from your pc? are you connected via usb? | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | yes | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: well, I want something that is easy to use :P | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | btw, there is the mad developer package which makes upping usb0 one touch | 17:24 |
| cpatrick2008 | that fixed it | 17:24 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, you need to set nameserver 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf | 17:24 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, maemo5 uses dnsmasq | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | meh | 17:25 |
| cpatrick2008 | on my desktop the KDEuBolg says Your accound information is incomplete | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: no tracepath around it seems? | 17:26 |
| * apachelogger is not sure what connection gets used ^^ | 17:26 | |
| rbelem | apachelogger, run route -n | 17:26 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, probably it has two default gateways | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | well, yes, my pc is listed before 000000 | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | BUT | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | if my pc fails to route it would use 00000000 | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | so... ;) | 17:27 |
| * apachelogger installs wireshark | 17:27 | |
| JontheEchidna | http://imagebin.ca/view/jfVxr0EW.html <- lots of testing last night, apparently :P | 17:28 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, just remove one of default gws `route del default <gw ip>` | 17:28 |
| yofel | JontheEchidna: is that muon history or apt history? | 17:28 |
| JontheEchidna | yofel: apt | 17:29 |
| yofel | cool :D | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | :O | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: that is not good enough :P | 17:29 |
| rbelem | :-) | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | so | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | it sends a dns request | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | and apaprently I get a query response | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | yet the maemo browser does not get the response | 17:30 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, maemo5 connection manager was not meant to handle multiple connections :-( | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | so either my pc is not routing it to the n900 or something else is wrong | 17:30 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, try ping your dns server | 17:30 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, do you use firewall? | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: my dns server is 00000 ;) | 17:31 |
| rbelem | eheheh | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | n900 -> dns server 0 -> routes to pc -> pc routes to router -> router conducts lookup | 17:31 |
| cpatrick2008 | on my desktop the KDEuBolg says Your accound information is incomplete | 17:31 |
| yofel | cpatrick2008: hm, let me try (as soon as I find the plasmoid..) | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | and I see a dns query response in wireshark | 17:32 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, never saw something like that before | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | it is most strange | 17:32 |
| cpatrick2008 | ok | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: only few can have this level of fancyness ;) | 17:33 |
| rbelem | eheheh | 17:33 |
| yofel | cpatrick2008: works for me after inputting my data (identi.ca) | 17:33 |
| yofel | 4.6 natty | 17:33 |
| cpatrick2008 | your login data is what you imputed | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: ok, I think the problem is routing of name from my pc to the phone | 17:34 |
| yofel | yep, I clicked on configure and entered my login data, that was all | 17:34 |
| cpatrick2008 | ok | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | pinging the actual address works though | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | very strange | 17:34 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, ping your router ip addr from n900 | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | works | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | the routing itself is not the problem, it is the name resolution routing, for whatever reason that gets handled differently | 17:35 |
| cpatrick2008 | is there a way to get it like it was in maerick where it showed updates like the ones the kubuntu.org website | 17:36 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, maemo5 is probably screwed | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | entirely possible | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu mobile ftw! | 17:36 |
| * rbelem hates maemo | 17:37 | |
| rbelem | it is not a good distro | 17:37 |
| yofel | cpatrick2008: I don't see a difference between 4.5 and 4.6 here, maybe something isnt's set up right? I'm not sure what that would be since it seems to work here | 17:37 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, i always say to may colleagues that if nokia decided to base maemo on ubuntu and hired canonical | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | oh god, not canonical :P | 17:39 |
| rbelem | the current scenario would be totally different today | 17:39 |
| yofel | rbelem: you want unity on your n900 ?? | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | hire the kubuntu crew, have ScottK do his consultant thing and everyone is happy | 17:40 |
| cpatrick2008 | here is a pic of my settings http://tinypic.com/r/3485xrc/7 | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: one cant get much better package management than JontheEchidna's | 17:41 |
| rbelem | yofel, it would probably run something in qt | 17:41 |
| yofel | cpatrick2008: where's your username/pw ? | 17:41 |
| * apachelogger hints to yofel that apachelogger has a poc Qt implementation of unity | 17:41 | |
| * yofel wonders how that looks like... | 17:42 | |
| apachelogger | on some stick | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | wonder which one though | 17:42 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, have ScottK would be awesome too | 17:42 |
| rbelem | but ScottK with super cow power inside nokia | 17:42 |
| yofel | cpatrick2008: ah wait, you meant those kubuntu.org entries? not sure what happened to them, probably the patch needs to be refreshed | 17:42 |
| * ScottK would be interested in that. | 17:42 | |
| cpatrick2008 | yes that is what i ment | 17:43 |
| cpatrick2008 | oh ok know when it will be refreshed | 17:43 |
| rbelem | :-) | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | brrr | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | the meego shell also starts incredibly slow | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | but it does lazy initialization of its widget | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | even without priority handling it seems | 17:44 |
| yofel | cpatrick2008: nope, file a bug so it's not forgotten (kdeplasma-addons package) | 17:45 |
| cpatrick2008 | ok will do | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | natter: \o | 17:45 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, did you notice io on microsd? | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | natter: whats the name of the patch? | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | oh nvm | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | s/meego/maemo | 17:46 |
| natter | langauage differentiator oatch 85 | 17:46 |
| natter | *patch | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: since it was maemo, no | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | natter: right, this one http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-runtime/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_85_language_selector.diff | 17:47 |
| natter | its in kdebase runtime | 17:47 |
| natter | shadeslayer: yes | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: this language selector patch looks trivial .. i can actually understand what it does :P | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | not mine | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | note ... it *looks* trivial | 17:47 |
| * apachelogger would not edit ui files | 17:48 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: seems to be your doing in the intial import | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | breaks way to easily | 17:48 |
| natter | shadeslayer: its for 4.4.80 files.. not for 4.5.80.. so how can i continue further? | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so we're re-doing the patch, recommendations? | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | and given appropriate surrounding one can achieve the same effect by insertWidget() on layouts | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes, redo from cratch and incroporate it into the kcm and whatnot | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | ...what I have been whining about before maverick... | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | lol @ cratch | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | natter: ^^ | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | at the very least get rid of the ui file changes | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you do love KCM modules dont you :P | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | I guess the patch now breaks in the ui | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | probably | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | they are hot and sexy | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | im just looking through it | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | and the locale one is one with bad code design IIRC | 17:50 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1203352 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/HistoryView/HistoryView.cpp Use KLocale::formatTime() on our QDateTime so that we can get "Today"/"Yesterday"/ weekday names in the history categories | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: *proc << "/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu"; like .... that can certainly be made better ... | 17:52 |
| cpatrick2008 | ok reported bug | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: how is that? | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | possibly with KProcess::start ? | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | no? | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | you need a heap object because yo uneed to attach a slot to it | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | natter: read up on Qt Signals and slots from Qt docs site | 17:54 |
| natter | shadeslayer: have read them. i have basic idea of using and implementing them., | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | ohk kewl | 17:55 |
| natter | shadeslayer: do i need to start from the scratch then? | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: seems nokia only made a new sysroot for qt4.7 for meego, not for maemo | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: comes back to my previous point about meego being the future | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | possibly nag thiago ? :P | 17:57 |
| * apachelogger nags thiago too much already :P | 17:57 | |
| ScottK | Not for maemo I don't think. | 17:57 |
| natter | shadeslayer: then i need more documentation of language selector. from where can i get it then? | 17:57 |
| * apachelogger wouldnt really want to use meego right now | 17:57 | |
| shadeslayer | natter: uh.. if youve read signals and slots, i think you can quite easily understand whats happening in the patch | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: oh, on second thought maybe one should also rewrite language selector while at it ;) | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | to better suite integrational needs in the kcm and what not | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | language selector? | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | also possibly rewrite in not-pyth0rn | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | whaaa | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | since the python stuff is unmaintained | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | ... | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | keep the backend and gui seperated | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | then send the backend to canonical and tell them to use it for the gtk version | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | whats qt-language-selector ... never seen it before | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ is that what your talking about? | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | yes | 18:00 |
| natter | shadeslayer: i am getting it but what would be the GUI then?? should i decide myself? | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | ok... because i just got a python backtrace when i ran it | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | because Quintasan broke SIP | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | :> | 18:00 |
| apachelogger | thank you Quintasan | 18:00 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: if it were ported to c++ it would right now not backtrace away | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | natter: GUI should be the same as the current one .... imo ... | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: *nod* | 18:01 |
| * apachelogger notes that current gui is utter design fail | 18:01 | |
| apachelogger | if you keep it I will ask the canonical design team to come after you... | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | with a gigantic orange head that looks like it is giving a bj or something... :P | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 18:02 |
| natter | then new gui need to designed to make it successful? | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | natter: ok new GUI then | 18:02 |
| natter | ;-p.. | 18:02 |
| yofel | KDE 4.5.85 open on ktown | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | because i dont want the design team after me | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | [click here if your browser does not automatically redirect you] | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | ( rekonq crashes at this point ) | 18:03 |
| * apachelogger wonders why one gets put somewhere from where one needs to be redirect again if it does not work in every browser | 18:03 | |
| shadeslayer | [ you mail backtrace to b.k.o where it never gets looked at ] | 18:03 |
| natter | shadeslayer: so what modifications need to be done in new gui?? | 18:03 |
| yofel | ScottK: can you upload kdeartwork and kdebase from bzr to natty? Riddell seems away | 18:03 |
| ScottK | Ah. There is it. | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:03 |
| ScottK | Probably. | 18:04 |
| yofel | thanks | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: natter posibly for the new language selector, give the user a list of all languages we offer, and a search box at the top and multiple tickboxes to install lang packs? | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | WRONG | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | natter: lets read the ubuntu design guidelines before apachelogger sends the design team after us | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | I was born with the wrong sign | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | int he wrong house | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | with the wron ascendancy | 18:06 |
| natter | yes.. we need to | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | i took the wrong road | 18:06 |
| yofel | btw, can anyone with gcc knowledge maybe tell me wth goes wrong here? I blame gcc 4.5 so far http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60010070/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.scribus-trunk_1.5.0svn201012022355-12~natty1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | that led to the wrong tendencies | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | ... | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | natter: http://design.canonical.com/ | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that sounds like a decent enough starting point | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also consider how you want to *integrate* it into the KCM | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | right now it is not integrated, it is buttoned in... | 18:07 |
| natter | shadeslayer: ok.. whai will i gather from this link? | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: would it fit under locale? | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | where is that? | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | you mean the languages box? | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | the language selector box | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | that is also something to consider quite frankly | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | the box there has scope to the user, and language-selector to the system | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | so one should somehow make a visual distinction | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | which would possibly be in favor of having the language-selector stuff on an own tab | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | and the first thing it says is : Country/Region & Language | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | or even own cateogry and not integrated in this particular KCM at all | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | thats what i was thinking | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | (i.e. an KCM of its own - "System Locale") | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | well ... i rather think, it would go better under locale | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | you make the choice, I will then poke you :P | 18:10 |
| ScottK | yofel: You have to fix the missing link. See http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | natter: see under toolkit | 18:10 |
| yofel | ScottK: thanks | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | uh | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:10 |
| natter | shadeslayer:which option under it? | 18:10 |
| ScottK | I see we have -bindings for beta2. That'll be fun. | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: theres no guideline for apps as such there | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: if theyve fixed bindings do let us know | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | us as in me, yofel or Quintasan | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I know | 18:11 |
| ScottK | The tarball is there for packaging. | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: yes, but does it build etc | 18:11 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: I tried bindings trunk yesterday, didn't end well | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | see :P | 18:11 |
| ScottK | I'd have to package it to know that, wouldn't I. | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | yeah ... :D | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | bindings is dead until rc | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: ^^ | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | great, no ktorrent till then | 18:12 |
| * apachelogger had a chat with rdale about this some time ago, seems that most of bindings development only goes on past library whatever freeze | 18:12 | |
| apachelogger | up until then you have to be happy if it compiles | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | let alone works | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what do we do then? for app design guide lines | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: follow KDE HIG | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | natter: also look at http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | already looking at those | 18:13 |
| natter | shadeslayer: yep.. | 18:13 |
| * apachelogger thinks that shadeslayer is throwing a bit much at natter ^^ | 18:13 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: im in this with him :P | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | so its a bit over my head too .... but yeah we'll learn together | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | mad man | 18:14 |
| natter | apachelogger: ;)... | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | good thing my next exam is on monday :D | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | tuesday here | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | anyone on natty? | 18:15 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: yep | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental?field.series_filter=natty << can you check if you transition from kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts to kubuntu-web-shortcuts | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | ohh | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | for some reason ppa2 isnt there | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | rdieter: are you sure that kde-autostart-after does not wait for the apps to return? but rather that the apps return very early? | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | and theres a spelling mistake in the changelog :P | 18:16 |
| rdieter | apachelogger: my minimal test case was ordered autostarted shell scripts that did nothing but 'sleep 2', and they all had a simultaneous timestamp | 18:18 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: ping me when you updated it then | 18:18 |
| ScottK | yofel: kdebase uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 18:18 |
| yofel | ScottK: thanks for uploading | 18:18 |
| ScottK | You're welcome. | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: well .. its a trivial change really, just tell me if it updates ^_^ | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | bah | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | distro is maverick in changelog | 18:19 |
| ScottK | Ugh. | 18:19 |
| ScottK | Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main kdeartwork 4:4.5.80-0ubuntu3 (tar) [111MB] | 18:19 |
| rdieter | apachelogger: scripts all were, sleep 2; echo "$(date) >> $(HOME}/autostart.log ; sleep 2 | 18:19 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: do I need to install both or just -web-shortcuts? | 18:20 |
| natter | shadeslayer; its just few rules given on http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG.. | 18:20 |
| ScottK | kde-start-after-its-done-no-really-I-mean-it | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: it should work on a upgrade | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | nothing else | 18:20 |
| rdieter | ScottK: lolz, yeah | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | since kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts is a transitional package | 18:21 |
| natter | shadeslayer: so let we start desgining using kde4 guidelines...????? | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: kubuntu-web-shortcuts should NOT provide kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts right? | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | natter: yes | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | natter: you read all of http://developer.kde.org/documentation/design/ui/ | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | im not even past the first page yet :P | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: aye | 18:23 |
| natter | shadeslayer:ok..;-) | 18:23 |
| natter | wil read it.. | 18:23 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: well, -web-shortcuts removes -konqueror-shortcuts | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: ok thats good | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | oh | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | right | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/kontact-touch.avi | 18:24 |
| * apachelogger wished kubuntu had a kolab testing server :( | 18:24 | |
| * shadeslayer wishes kubuntu had more clones of apachelogger | 18:25 | |
| apachelogger | metoo | 18:26 |
| * rbelem wants to be like apachelogger | 18:28 | |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: you mean a apachelogger_clone | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | https://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/kubuntu-11-04-sneak-peek-uds-cookie/ | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: lol @ superficial tech blah blah blah | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 18:37 |
| ScottK | yofel: artwork uploaded too. Thanks again. | 18:38 |
| * ScottK is saddened his de-halification work didn't make it to the might-eat-bunnies level. | 18:45 | |
| * apachelogger grows ever so amazed from reading comments | 18:46 | |
| shadeslayer | Use splash screens on startup, and other tricks to reduce perceived latency (for example, save an image of the app at last use and display this as it starts up). :: KDE pulls this off | 18:52 |
| * yofel leaves kdelibs to someone else, bbl | 18:53 | |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 18:55 |
| _Groo_ | could any kind soul fix kdelibs5-dev which is missing a ~ in the control file for libkwebkit-dev (<< 0.9svn1123738) ence not allowing libkwebkit-dev to be installed properly? | 18:57 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what is that? | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: KSplash | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | or whatever its called | 18:57 |
| apachelogger | wah? | 18:57 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: can you do it apache? | 18:59 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: for maverick | 18:59 |
| apachelogger | what version where when how omg | 19:00 |
| * apachelogger has a nervous break down and points towards shadeslayer | 19:00 | |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: kdelibs5-dev in maverick | 19:00 |
| _Groo_ | the last line in the control file | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | whut | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | eh | 19:00 |
| _Groo_ | has libkwebkit-dev (<< 0.9svn1123738) and it should be libkwebkit-dev (<< 0.9~svn1123738) | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: where? what? | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | eh | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | that sounds wrong | 19:01 |
| * yofel is back after all | 19:01 | |
| yofel | _Groo_: where the hell do you have libqtwebkit-dev 0.9? | 19:01 |
| JontheEchidna | libkwebkit-dev | 19:01 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: standard maverick packages, and its libKwebit not qt | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | why does that have << anyway | 19:01 |
| yofel | erk sorry | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | hold on there fellas | 19:02 |
| apachelogger | libkwebkit is coming from kdelibs is it not? | 19:02 |
| _Groo_ | try to install libkwebkit-dev in maverick and youll see what i mean | 19:02 |
| yofel | he's right | 19:02 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: its a reverse dependency of kdelibs5-dev | 19:02 |
| * apachelogger scratches head | 19:03 | |
| _Groo_ | if you install kdelibs5-dev it works, you try to install libkwebkit-dev and it breaks, cause the control file of kdelibs is broken, missing a ~ | 19:03 |
| yofel | _Groo_: wait, kdelibs5-dev REPLACES libkwebkit-dev (<<0.9svn1123738), so you're not supposed to have libkwebkit installed | 19:04 |
| _Groo_ | and since libkwebit needs kdelibs... classic dependencie lock | 19:04 |
| * apachelogger is with yofel | 19:04 | |
| apachelogger | libkwebkit was merged into kdelibs as libkdewebkit IIRC | 19:04 |
| apachelogger | that said we probably should have removed the binaries from maverick | 19:04 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: its part of kdelibs BUT its a separate package | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | that does not make sense at all | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | hm | 19:06 |
| yofel | hm, something odd here, libkwebkit comes from webkitkde | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | this needs investigation | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | libkwebkit-dev is for building things against the kpart | 19:06 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: kdelibs calls libkwebkit1 (that one is ok) but libkwebit-dev is broken cause kdelibs is missing a ~ | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | kdewebkit creates kpart and libkwebkit* | 19:06 |
| _Groo_ | am i talking cantonese here? | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | it's not the actual webkit integration libraries | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | kdelibs creates libkdewebkit, which replaces libkwebkit | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: then why does kdeflips-dev break it | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | because it used to have libkdewebkit shizz in it too | 19:06 |
| yofel | we didn't backport webkitkde | 19:06 |
| _Groo_ | libkwebkit-dbg - KDE bindings for WebKit, Development files libkwebkit-dev - KDE bindings for WebKit, Development files libkwebkit1 - KDE bindings for WebKit libkdewebkit5 - the KDE WebKit Library | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: nah that does not make sense | 19:07 |
| ScottK | In any case the version in is rong. | 19:07 |
| ScottK | rong/wrong | 19:07 |
| ScottK | I'm fixing it in Natty | 19:07 |
| _Groo_ | in maverick the dev packages are the libkwebit ones | 19:07 |
| * apachelogger goes blaming, for someone is clearly in need of a refresh on proper package relations | 19:07 | |
| yofel | natty has 0.9.6 which installs fine | 19:07 |
| _Groo_ | its just a stupid typing bug! | 19:08 |
| _Groo_ | just add a ~ in the control file | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | no no no | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | the bug is that it should not have a breaks relation | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | *at all* | 19:08 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: even better :) | 19:08 |
| _Groo_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libkwebkit-dev : Depends: kdelibs5-dev but it is not going to be installed | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | silly things | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | also I am drunk | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | must be firday | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | weekend | 19:09 |
| yofel | well, ScottK is right, it needs the version fixed, should work then | 19:09 |
| Quintasan | fcks | 19:09 |
| ScottK | Someone else do Maverick PPA | 19:09 |
| yofel | ScottK: I will | 19:09 |
| Quintasan | bindings are dead until RC? :/ | 19:09 |
| * _Groo_ is right then? | 19:09 | |
| * _Groo_ was right all along? | 19:10 | |
| yofel | _Groo_: seems so | 19:10 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: it does need it, because all the includes for all the libraries that webkitkde used to ship were thrown into that -dev package | 19:10 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: gimmie some beer | 19:10 |
| yofel | _Groo_: a bit confusing | 19:10 |
| JontheEchidna | some were moved to kdelibs | 19:10 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: tarball is there for beta 2. No idea if it works. | 19:10 |
| * _Groo_ wants cookie for bug hunting! | 19:10 | |
| JontheEchidna | kdelibs5-dev really does have files that used to be in libkwebkit-dev | 19:10 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I bet it will not but let me try it | 19:10 |
| yofel | apachelogger: get kubotu back, Riddell kicked him and order cookies for _Groo_ | 19:10 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: exactly | 19:10 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: also the problem with this -dev is that a ~ is missing in the file version, so he thinks the file isnt there | 19:11 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: yes, it doesn't make sense. the files were thrown in libkwebkit-dev improperly by debian. But the fact is that they were in libkwebkit-dev and now are in kdelibs5-dev | 19:11 |
| JontheEchidna | the lack of a ~ makes it look for a version higher that 0.9~svn | 19:11 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: kdelibs5-dev : Breaks: libkwebkit-dev (< 0.9svn1123738) but 0.9~svn1127626-0ubuntu2 is to be installed | 19:12 |
| JontheEchidna | since 0.9svn is a higher version that 0.9~svn | 19:12 |
| JontheEchidna | ~ is a special character that is the alphabetical-lowest in debain versioning | 19:12 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: exactly.. what i was saying all along.. add the damn ~ in the kdelibs-dev control fine and it should work | 19:12 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: i know :D | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: this is all a pile of phonon right there | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | yofel: no | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | it is futile | 19:12 |
| * apachelogger will not bring kubotu back | 19:13 | |
| apachelogger | let it rot | 19:13 |
| yofel | :( | 19:13 |
| Quintasan | FFFF | 19:13 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: for the longest time I had to put up a "DO NOT MERGE PL0X" warning on merges.ubuntu.com to avoid insanity... | 19:13 |
| _Groo_ | poor bot | 19:13 |
| * apachelogger is not going to start that stupid thing daily | 19:13 | |
| * Quintasan hits apachelogger with an empty mug | 19:13 | |
| _Groo_ | i wouldnt be pestering you guys, but some packages need those files, like choqok support of webkit | 19:14 |
| * apachelogger throws his keybord across the channel hoping it to land on Quintasan's foot | 19:14 | |
| apachelogger | wah | 19:14 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: you kind missed | 19:14 |
| _Groo_ | and i cant add it to a ppa, cause it will break the build since the oficial package is broken | 19:14 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: kind of* | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | jesus | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | and luke | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | and brian | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | what the flying nimbus | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | why does showkoq depend on libkwebkit? | 19:15 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Fixed in Natty. Thanks for letting us know. | 19:15 |
| yofel | _Groo_: which version or libs are you talking about btw? | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | and why is it called libkwebkit anyway | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | and why does it exist | 19:15 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: pls do maverick too, and i want my cookie! | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | ... | 19:15 |
| Quintasan | which phonon backend we "support" now? | 19:15 |
| yofel | _Groo_: (I'm assuming 80) | 19:15 |
| CIA-24 | [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101203191540-pg7pxpjcikh4p506 * debian/ (changelog control) Fix breaks version for libkwebkit-dev | 19:15 |
| * apachelogger goes mad over all this silly stuff and continues reading comments | 19:15 | |
| ScottK | _Groo_: I'm not set up for uploading to the PPA and it's more to do than I have time. Hopefully yofel will do it. | 19:15 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: version of what libs? | 19:15 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: k, tks | 19:16 |
| yofel | _Groo_: ask apachelogger for cookies, my box is empty. And I meant kdelibs, 4.5.80 right? | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Android/device.png | 19:16 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: but its not the ppa, its broken in all maverick, including the kde shipped | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | damn them cookies | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | no cookies | 19:16 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: no, 4.5.4 | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | no bot -> no cookies -> no xmas | 19:16 |
| _Groo_ | again | 19:17 |
| yofel | _Groo_: ok, then it was broken in 4.5.4 and 4.5.80 | 19:17 |
| yofel | ScottK: can I fix 4.5.4 too? | 19:17 |
| _Groo_ | kdelibs-dev is broken is MAIN maverick and in PPA maverick for version 4.5.x | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: looks like a spaceship on H | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: its the compass on a spaceship | 19:17 |
| yofel | _Groo_: if you want 4.5.1 fixed we'll need an SRU | 19:17 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: yeah, im reapping my lungs with this bug for 3 months now! | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | with a universal GPS lock :> | 19:17 |
| ScottK | yofel: Sure | 19:17 |
| yofel | will do then | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | also your top thing bar is sort of filled up with plunder | 19:17 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna said it would be fixed this time.. so i forgot about it | 19:18 |
| _Groo_ | and yes, i was lazy not opening a bug report :P | 19:18 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think I ever said that... | 19:18 |
| _Groo_ | im VERY lazy | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | also spacing of the fonts are funny | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | to sum this up | 19:18 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: yeah you did, but it was like 3 months ago | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | whoever designed this app has no sense for good looks at all | 19:18 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: relax, it was a comment, not a oficial statement | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | probably is in a relationship with a stone or something | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | though there are beautiful stones | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | so | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | s/stone/ugly stone/ | 19:19 |
| JontheEchidna | perhaps I said it would be fixed in natty because of the new webkitkde version | 19:19 |
| * _Groo_ wonders how much of apachelogger work is done while drunk ;) | 19:19 | |
| ScottK | _Groo_: For the SRU, we need a bug report with a test case that shows how to test it. | 19:19 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Get me that and I'll upload the SRU. | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you need todo management right there | 19:20 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: wtf is a SRU? | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | oh | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | phoronix is doing silly reviews of you bun too again | 19:20 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Stable Release Update. So we can fix maverick. | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | It does not look too different from the Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Edition interface and it is still far from being finished. | 19:20 |
| ScottK | !sru | _Groo_ | 19:20 |
| ubottu | _Groo_: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 19:20 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: what would be a testcase in this case? | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | that reads like 10.10 was not finished | 19:20 |
| _Groo_ | tks ubottu ;) finally some good info | 19:20 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: where is your kcm for rendering method? | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | in the kcm nebula in the galaxy of sax | 19:21 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Something like "Install kdelibs5-dev while foo is installed, see it fail. Add maverick-proposed and update, try again. See it succeed." | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | also on kde-apps | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so im here currently :P http://maps.google.com/maps?q=loc:28.47887,77.04835 | 19:21 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: but then i need to wait for the fix to go to proposed right? | 19:22 |
| * apachelogger finds it dangerous to publish such stuff since now some assasin could come and kill you | 19:22 | |
| shadeslayer | lol | 19:22 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Yes. This is how we fix it for everyone. | 19:22 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: do we have/want/will have a package? | 19:22 |
| _Groo_ | btw to anyone interested, i would STRONGLY advice for natty to have veromix instead of kmix by default! | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | too many words | 19:22 |
| * apachelogger forms 3 sentences | 19:22 | |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: This is where you pretend to study while avoiding useful work? | 19:22 |
| _Groo_ | its very VERY good | 19:22 |
| _Groo_ | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=116676 | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | do we will have a package aint does not make no sense! | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | !!!! | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | no sense at all | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | ... | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: well, you are the packag0r, you decide | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: this is where i study AND do usefull work when im free :) | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | but if you package, plz package the git overlord | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | it has supreme improvements | 19:23 |
| ScottK | So you say. | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: im also reading KDE HIG right now to help natter ... who ran off apparently | 19:23 |
| _Groo_ | btw veromix doesnt need a package per se, it can be updated fir GHNS2 | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | I told you | 19:23 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: give me the linkzor cause I'm too lazy | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | you threw too much junk at him | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | ... | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: GTFLYILB | 19:24 |
| Quintasan | what? | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 19:24 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: k, gonna wait for proposed to show up and then open a SRU | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | if only kubotu was here | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | get the fucking link you incredibly lazy bastard | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | ... | 19:24 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: I need the bug before I can upload it. | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | why do people always ask me to swear in public | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 19:24 |
| ScottK | (I need to put the bug number in debian/changelog) | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | any music recommendations for apachelogger? | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i thought you were working on KDE Me Menu :P | 19:25 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: apachelogger is not working most of the time :P | 19:25 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Flirting with the Devil, Van Halen. | 19:25 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Korpikaani - Vodka | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: he just wants us to think he is | 19:25 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I was working on filling my status bar up with plunder | 19:26 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: or Beer Beer | 19:26 |
| apachelogger | didnt work | 19:26 |
| apachelogger | n900 islandscape | 19:26 |
| Quintasan | islandscape? wtf | 19:26 |
| apachelogger | that is when you are on an island! | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: also ... lol... android cant detect adhoc wifi networks | 19:26 |
| Quintasan | PACKAGING AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha ^^ | 19:26 |
| apachelogger | androids are super stupid | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | I mean | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | think | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | data | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | is living in quite a while from now | 19:27 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: amd64 w/ gstreamer == not working for Amarok on my MP3s | 19:27 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: stop rambling and go back to work | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | and even that far in the future androids are not nearly as sophisticated as humans | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | ... | 19:27 |
| rgreening | re: your blog | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | I am listening to flirting with the devil | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | no time for work when listening to music | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: did you install all the gstreamer plugins? | 19:28 |
| * Quintasan forgot how to get tags from git | 19:28 | |
| apachelogger | gititii | 19:28 |
| rgreening | all except the win32 which does not seem to exist in the archives and qapt-batch still wants to install it (under amd64) | 19:28 |
| yofel | Quintasan: git tag -l ? | 19:28 |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: remove .gstreamer-0.10/ and do a gst-inspect-0.10 | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: thy shall not get tags, but latest revision | 19:28 |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: see if that works | 19:28 |
| rgreening | ok | 19:29 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: 1.3-0ubuntu1~git_blame_apachelogger? | 19:29 |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: if it does it once again proves gnome guys cant do a backend without *uking it up | 19:29 |
| * apachelogger takes his android phone and throws that too at Quintasan | 19:29 | |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: if it doesnt.. well the sentence is still true | 19:29 |
| Quintasan | yofel: it only lists tags, how do I get ceratin tag instead of master? | 19:30 |
| neversfelde | someone with a faster machine wants to do kdelibs? Otherwise I am going to start with it | 19:30 |
| yofel | Quintasan: git checkout <tag> I think (or reset?) | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: welll | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | wellllll | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | vodka is a bit mediocre | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | "a bit" | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | well, maybe a bit more | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | ... | 19:33 |
| Quintasan | I don't give a damn, they have accordian hero | 19:33 |
| Quintasan | instead of going with typical solo on guitar they go with a solo on accordian @_@ | 19:34 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: think of a long description for this kcm and I will do the rest | 19:35 |
| rgreening | _Groo_: still doesn't play MP3's using gstreamer under AMD64 | 19:35 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: ^^^^^^ | 19:35 |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: maverick or natty? | 19:36 |
| rgreening | natty | 19:36 |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: what proggy are you using? | 19:36 |
| rgreening | amarok | 19:36 |
| rgreening | phonon backend using gstreamer as per apacheloggers last blog | 19:36 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1203378 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ (ApplicationProxyModel.cpp ApplicationProxyModel.h) Add search support in the proxy model. Still needs a GUI though | 19:36 |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: yeah it sometimes doesnt do it... its very strange, it comes and goes in maverick, but usually gst-inspect solves it | 19:36 |
| rgreening | btw: apachelogger qapt-batch not working correctly as not all packages are existing for amd64 and it hangs qapt-batch | 19:37 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: btw with latest pulseaudio git with the patches for vlc, phonon-vlc STILL crashes on exit :P sorry | 19:37 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: maverick or natty? | 19:37 |
| rgreening | see above | 19:37 |
| rgreening | natty | 19:37 |
| * JontheEchidna is Mr. QApt | 19:37 | |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, if a package does not exist it should pop up a dialog saying so | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | im sleeping .. night all | 19:38 |
| rgreening | gstreamer pitfdll not installable and qapt-batch hung waiting for authorization(is wat it said) | 19:38 |
| JontheEchidna | http://imagebin.ca/view/8ZzmtNoN.html' | 19:38 |
| JontheEchidna | erm, http://imagebin.ca/view/8ZzmtNoN.html | 19:38 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: pitfdll isn't on i386 either, but I got the error box | 19:39 |
| rgreening | nope. not here | 19:39 |
| rgreening | just hung indefinately | 19:39 |
| rgreening | still hanging now | 19:40 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: http://pastebin.com/45Q30tR1 <-- is this good enough for kcm-qt-graphicssystem? :P | 19:40 |
| rgreening | i could play the jeopardy theme in amarok, but that isnt working with gstreamer and mp3s either | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: go talk to coling | 19:40 |
| _Groo_ | oh btw,m anyone tested openoffice with the kde integration in natty, since you guys are using rest by default now? | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | though he is drinking right now I heared | 19:41 |
| rgreening | and still hung. so, no dialog | 19:41 |
| _Groo_ | cause in maverick, openoffice crashes at startup when using kde integration, openofficesomething-kde | 19:41 |
| _Groo_ | and raster enabled | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna, rgreening: that is going away anyway, dantti_work and I (more him than me) have been working on sophisticated gstreamer codec install magic | 19:41 |
| * apachelogger just needs to assemble the pieces | 19:41 | |
| * _Groo_ is afraid now :D | 19:41 | |
| rgreening | but will it make my mp3s work again | 19:42 |
| rgreening | cause not able to play mp3 with gstreamer+phonon in amarok sux | 19:43 |
| _Groo_ | but will in run crysis? | 19:43 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: which is still broken, QApt waits for authorization for eternity without any password dialog | 19:43 |
| * _Groo_ ducks... | 19:43 | |
| JontheEchidna | oh, if a password dialog never comes up that's policykit-kde's fault | 19:43 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: no dialog for paSSWORD COMES UP | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: we use kpackagekit | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | ... | 19:43 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: coling runs around here? or another channel? | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | kde-devel | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | or phonon | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | or mandriva | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | or pulseaudio | 19:43 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: was talking about- Quintasan's problem | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | (I suppose) | 19:43 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: k | 19:44 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: I'll also assume accidental caps :P | 19:44 |
| rgreening | :) | 19:44 |
| rgreening | of course | 19:44 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: but i see you all over the place in git? why coling when i have the real thing right here | 19:44 |
| * _Groo_ finds much more amusing to pester apachelogger then coling | 19:45 | |
| rgreening | phonon vlc should be the default | 19:45 |
| rgreening | :) | 19:45 |
| rgreening | least it works and allows me to play me mp3s | 19:45 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: we should use Muon now, really | 19:45 |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: phonon-vlc crashes on exit with pulseaudio | 19:45 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: and what can I do about it? :< | 19:45 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Actually it was Running with the Devil, wasn't it? | 19:45 |
| _Groo_ | best phonon so far is still xine unfortunaelly | 19:45 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: dunno, closed youtube already | 19:45 |
| * apachelogger fix0rs likeback | 19:46 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It also ocurred to me that you might do an extended AC/DC marathon in honor of our Scottish overload (long may his canoe stay upright) | 19:46 |
| rgreening | _Groo_: so does gstreamer | 19:46 |
| rgreening | gobject issue probably | 19:47 |
| rgreening | with ref to threading | 19:47 |
| rgreening | :) | 19:47 |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: yeah thats about it.. but doesnt ease the pain to know that | 19:47 |
| _Groo_ | rgreening: the patches apachelogger pointed me to in pulse where suposed to fix that, but for me at least they didnt | 19:47 |
| * _Groo_ wonders if the number of cores might influence pulseaudio threads in any way | 19:48 | |
| _Groo_ | it shouldnt in theory | 19:48 |
| rgreening | I had similar issues with PyQt porting of a PyGtk app which used gobject. THere are ways to properly make this work, but in the end, I wrote out the gobject stuff. | 19:48 |
| _Groo_ | but ive seen stranger things before | 19:48 |
| _Groo_ | brb | 19:49 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: have you upgraded to kde 4.6? I just remembered that the new libpolkit is binary-incompatible with the old version | 19:49 |
| JontheEchidna | the qaptworker is probably crashing when it tries to auth | 19:49 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: I think I did, and we have a solution | 19:49 |
| * ScottK leaves a dismissive comment in apachelogger's blog and gets back to work. | 19:49 | |
| JontheEchidna | I made QApt trunk compile for both libpolkit versions, but I don't think I"ve done a release since that point | 19:50 |
| * apachelogger turns on moderation | 19:50 | |
| JontheEchidna | I'll make a release this weekend | 19:50 |
| Quintasan | what the heck | 19:50 |
| JontheEchidna | I wanna get a gui for search in the Muon Software Center first before I do a qapt/muon release, though | 19:51 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: natty is still accepting feature requests for kubuntu? | 19:58 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: We are still implementing features. At this point I think the team knows mostly what they plan to do. If you want to do the work or can find someone willing, sure, but no guarantees. | 19:59 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: i would like to see if veromix could become the default audio mixer in kubuntu | 19:59 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: i can do the package and upload it to ninja or whatever | 20:00 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: since kubuntu is pulseaudio it would be an awesome feature | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | silly people -.- | 20:00 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: since it makes us feature parity with the new gnome audio mixer | 20:00 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Normally we'd want to get it in the archive and give people a chance to experiment with it. Also, kmix is part of the standard KDE distribution so we don't deviate from that without a significant reason. | 20:00 |
| ScottK | So the first step would be packaging it and then we can see. | 20:01 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: no no, kmix will be there, veromix its a plasmoid | 20:01 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: we dont lose anything | 20:01 |
| ScottK | I see. | 20:01 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: it would juts show up as default | 20:01 |
| ScottK | So it replaces the U/I part of kmix. | 20:01 |
| ScottK | I'd say package it and we'll see. | 20:01 |
| ScottK | That's the first step anyway. | 20:01 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=116676 | 20:01 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: it doesnt "replace" in the strict sense of overwriting | 20:02 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: you can have both | 20:02 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: but its much better already | 20:02 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: and since its a python plasmoid its very easy to maintain and update if needed | 20:02 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: version 0.9 even adds nowplaying integration like gnome volume | 20:03 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: im working with the author , clementine as a few bugs with him cause of mpris. | 20:03 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: but it should be in good shape for natty | 20:03 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: anyway play with it, ill try to make a package this weekend | 20:04 |
| ScottK | OK | 20:04 |
| _Groo_ | and one for clock wallpaper.. but that one could go to backports too, its a awesome plasmoid too | 20:04 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Wallpaper+Clock?content=119563 | 20:04 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: https://launchpad.net/~quintasan/+archive/ppa/+packages <--- I published wrong version but this should work | 20:05 |
| _Groo_ | k ppl seeya all tomorrow | 20:05 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1203382 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ApplicationProxyModel.cpp Preseve Xapian search relevance when filtering search results | 20:06 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: is it pr0n? | 20:06 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: >https://launchpad.net/~quintasan | 20:06 |
| Quintasan | wtf | 20:06 |
| Quintasan | porn on my lp, where? | 20:06 |
| JontheEchidna | trollface.jpg | 20:07 |
| Quintasan | ffff | 20:07 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Probably just apachelogger needing to listen to some Grateful Dead. Don't mind him. | 20:07 |
| JontheEchidna | the real troll is that I just used .jpg | 20:08 |
| ScottK | That could be an online quiz show "The real Troll~" | 20:11 |
| Quintasan | I thinks it's time for a nap | 20:12 |
| Quintasan | Then I can work on something else | 20:12 |
| * apachelogger dances with Nightrose | 20:13 | |
| JontheEchidna | baww, ksshaskpass isn't working no more | 20:13 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1203386 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (2 files in 2 dirs) Only cast the source model to ApplicationModel once here | 20:15 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1203391 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationBackend.cpp ApplicationBackend.h) Debconf support in the Muon Software Center. (It doesn't use the CommitWidget from libmuon) | 20:25 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: I’d like to help with beta 2 packaging | 20:29 |
| cpatrick2008 | i did not think beta 2 came out until wednesday | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: do you need a tar? | 20:32 |
| apachelogger | cpatrick2008: packagers have exclusive pre-release access | 20:32 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: yes | 20:32 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: which one? | 20:33 |
| cpatrick2008 | oh ok | 20:33 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: https://launchpad.net/~bulldog98/+sshkeys The JonathansRechner one | 20:33 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: you are already in there? | 20:34 |
| apachelogger | twice actually | 20:34 |
| apachelogger | someone could not establish order it would seem | 20:35 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: ssh @ktown.kde.org I don’t know the username for us can you help me out | 20:36 |
| yofel | ftpubuntu | 20:36 |
| yofel | bulldog98: ^ | 20:36 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: thank that’ll go into my .ssh/config | 20:36 |
| * bulldog98 got access | 20:38 | |
| * apachelogger loves jt's way of handling silly bugs ^^ | 20:39 | |
| cpatrick2008 | i was wondering if anybody has used kdepim what they thought of it compaired to the orgional kde | 20:49 |
| yofel | anyone doing kdelibs now? | 21:11 |
| yofel | neversfelde: gave up? | 21:12 |
| neversfelde | yofel: bzr is not working for unknown reasons | 21:12 |
| yofel | hm, works fine here, then I'll try it after all | 21:15 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ping | 21:15 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: pong | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: say you have a widget that only contains a layout and 4 buttons, and you (currently) do not need the buttons after construction, would you hold them in the private object anyway? | 21:17 |
| apachelogger | (all is parented, so cleanup is also handled without having a reference) | 21:17 |
| JontheEchidna | are you asking if they should be made a private member object? | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: also, do you happen to know a fancy way to prevent multiple connections of one object to another with same signals and slots? | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: no, whether I should hold them at all | 21:18 |
| * apachelogger is not sure if it is wort the 4 pointers he would need ^^ | 21:19 | |
| JontheEchidna | They do need to be on the stack to survive after the function that constructs them ends, so only if the entire life of the widget happens in that function | 21:19 |
| JontheEchidna | *on the heap | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: it is more a style question | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | sec | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/539546/ | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | it is about the 4 buttons, likebutton, dislikebutton, bugbutton and featurebutton | 21:21 |
| apachelogger | they get created, hooked up, ditched into the layout and never ever looked at again | 21:21 |
| JontheEchidna | imo since they aren't ever needed in any other function there's no benefit to keeping the pointers around in the private class | 21:22 |
| apachelogger | but what if sometime in the future they are? :) | 21:22 |
| JontheEchidna | then they'd go in to the private class | 21:23 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | that means one will have to privatize them later on | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | oh well | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | suppose it doesnt matter anyway | 21:24 |
| * apachelogger drops the pointers | 21:24 | |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, unless you want to enable/disable the buttons in response to some event I don't think you'll ever need to access the buttons from another function | 21:25 |
| JontheEchidna | or perhaps change the text/icon | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | I do not think either will ever be the case | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | yay for more readable code \o/ | 21:25 |
| * apachelogger hugs JontheEchidna | 21:25 | |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | likebacks code is so horrible | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | there was a function called setVisibleBar(bool) | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | the strange naming aside .... what it really did was manipulate the activity of the bar -.- | 21:27 |
| JontheEchidna | m_theBar->hide() ? | 21:32 |
| JontheEchidna | if you really wanted to control visibility^ | 21:32 |
| JontheEchidna | but if it really didn't do that at all, then damn... | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | I was like | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | :O | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | so I merged that into a overloaded setVisibile(bool) | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | and ruphy told me the other day that git master now endlesly loops | 21:33 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | after squeezing my brain through the code I realized that the bugger was not meant to manipulate visibility at all | 21:33 |
| yofel | ScottK: I'm just doing kdelibs, you added a kubuntu_77_ksambashare.diff to the package in bzr r301, did you intentionally not add that to the quilt series? | 21:37 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=301&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 301 | Added more developers. | 21:37 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: where do you think that a package search box should go in this picture? http://imagebin.ca/view/vTQ8Cn.html' | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:46 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: most definitely top | 21:46 |
| * yofel is used at seeing that above the list | 21:46 | |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, let me be more specific: | 21:46 |
| apachelogger | probably at the right | 21:46 |
| apachelogger | most definitely not taking up all the width | 21:47 |
| JontheEchidna | should it go next to the back/foward buttons and the breadcrumbs, or below that but above the application view? | 21:47 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: next to, unless you have other good things to stick underneath the breadcrumbs | 21:47 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, thanks | 21:47 |
| JontheEchidna | I agree on the basis of saving space, itjust feels a bit werid putting a search bar in the BreadcrumbWidget, so I thought I'd get a second opinion. | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | well, quite honestly it is a compromise | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | you cannot really stick it anywhere else | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: how about chopping one breadcrumb entry btw? | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | namely the last one ;) | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | seems a bit redundant IMHO | 21:49 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, I had already navigated to lskat, then went back | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | oh | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | ah | 21:50 |
| JontheEchidna | the lskat crumb would go away if you navigated to a different app | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | I see | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | ok | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: still would kick the crumb then | 21:50 |
| JontheEchidna | more specifically, if you went into "more details" of a different app | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | where you are now it does not make sense anymore | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | anyhow, what did I want to say | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | ah | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | right | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: maybe you should limit to 2 or 3 breadcrumbs? (I think dolphin does this) | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | ... foo -> bar -> foobar | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | [selecting game]: ... bar -> foobar -> game | 21:52 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I think that will help with the odd feeling of having search and breadcrumbs in the same widget | 21:52 |
| apachelogger | since the breadcrumbs do not feel like they are growing towards the search wiget | 21:53 |
| JontheEchidna | I meant from a programming/source code organization standpoint | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | ah, you programmers :P | 21:53 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: call it navigationwidget | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | search is a kind of navigation | 21:53 |
| JontheEchidna | this is true | 21:54 |
| JontheEchidna | that's probably what I'll do | 21:54 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: btw, from a design POV you probably want to make visual difference between breadcrumb and the sourrunding area | 21:54 |
| apachelogger | put them in a frame and have that frame lowered or something | 21:54 |
| JontheEchidna | different from e.g. the back/forward buttons? | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | yes | 21:55 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll experiment with that | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | needs some testing for sure | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | but I think that would animate people to use the breadcrumbs | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | oh, on that thought | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: isnt back and forth a bit of a redundant way of navigating WRT breadcrumbs? | 21:56 |
| apachelogger | also usability people liek breadcrumbs better anyway (seele vs. kickoff ;)) | 21:56 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 21:57 |
| * apachelogger just rememberd that maybe we should breadcrumbify it for real ^^ | 21:57 | |
| JontheEchidna | I'll have to think on that one | 21:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Oh, on the subject of framing... | 21:57 |
| JontheEchidna | do you think that framing could help in the app details widget? http://imagebin.ca/view/YebrS6.html | 21:58 |
| JontheEchidna | (good game btw) | 21:58 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | yes | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | absolutely | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I would put the remove button right of the title btw | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | bottom aligned | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | put everything other than the title in a frame | 22:00 |
| apachelogger | maybe also sunken or something | 22:00 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, I am proud to say that there are no .ui files at play here :) | 22:00 |
| JontheEchidna | trying to do layouting in designer drives me mad anyways | 22:00 |
| JontheEchidna | So I'm thinking that the remove button should go next to the title, bottom-right aligned. A KRatingWidget for the popcon could go right above it, and then put the stuff below it in a frame | 22:02 |
| apachelogger | sounds good | 22:03 |
| apachelogger | it is going to be a beauty | 22:04 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you should get hold of sheytan some time and ask him what he thinks about al the magic | 22:04 |
| ScottK | yofel: I added it to bzr because it was in the package. I assumed it was just a forgotten bzr add. | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | dantti_work: ping | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | or maybe dantti | 22:34 |
| dantti | apachelogger: hey :) | 22:34 |
| * apachelogger thinks dantti needs a quasselcore ^^ | 22:34 | |
| apachelogger | dantti: when will packagekit switch to cmake? ;) | 22:35 |
| dantti | what's that? | 22:35 |
| dantti | dunno, :P | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | dantti: the server part of quassel ;) | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | dantti: is it gonna happen though? | 22:35 |
| dantti | well it might happen when I port all of it | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | maybe I could help push that a bit forward ^^ | 22:36 |
| * apachelogger tries to sell cmake to zeitgeist | 22:36 | |
| dantti | apachelogger: and what does a server part of quassel do? cause I don't like quassel gui | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | dantti: it acts like an IRC bouncer | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | the server holds the IRC connection and the gui/client only connects to the server | 22:37 |
| * dantti is still confused :P english please | 22:37 | |
| apachelogger | well, you have one server and can attach multiple clients to it | 22:37 |
| dantti | hmm well but I'd need a fixed ip for that no? | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | dyndns would do | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | dantti: you could also write another client gui I suppose | 22:38 |
| dantti | well I'm about to go live abroad so I guess I won't worry for that for now :P | 22:38 |
| dantti | apachelogger: nah, I'm happy with kvirc :P | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | kvirc | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | omg | 22:38 |
| * apachelogger faints | 22:38 | |
| dantti | hehe | 22:39 |
| yofel | Riddell: do you know where kubuntu_77_ksambashare.diff came from? | 22:39 |
| dantti | apachelogger: well dunno I guess I can better read the text here, I get lost in konversation and quassel... | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | well, as said, one could write another client UI | 22:40 |
| * apachelogger also finds quassel's default setup a bit heavy | 22:40 | |
| ScottK | yofel: I suspect rbelem is to blame. | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | bzr will know | 22:41 |
| yofel | and I need some help, kdelibs fails to build :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/539567/ | 22:41 |
| dantti | apachelogger: well that said, I guess I'll worry about other stuff :P I'll try to commit the cmake stuff to a git branch so you can take a look | 22:41 |
| yofel | the 4.5.85 upstream tar builds fine unpatched, but the package fails (I removed patches kubuntu 78 and 80 since they were applied upstream) | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | dantti: ok, cool | 22:43 |
| dantti | apachelogger: let me do that right now otherwise I'll forget again :P | 22:44 |
| rbelem | :-) | 22:45 |
| * rbelem wants his patch upstream :'( | 22:46 | |
| yofel | rbelem: that patch is supposed to be there? | 22:46 |
| rbelem | yofel, it is not in series, but i think that if upstream take so long to accept we will put there | 22:47 |
| yofel | ok | 22:48 |
| yofel | why do we build without FAM / gamin btw.? | 22:53 |
| dantti | apachelogger: done, take a look it builds large part of the code but the ifndefs are not all covered and the hardest part is to build the backends (ximion sent me a .cmake that would do that I can send you that too) http://gitorious.org/packagekit/packagekit/commits/cmake | 22:53 |
| * dantti is out for food | 22:54 | |
| ximion | apachelogger: Not necessarily the best piece of cmake-code, but it works perfectly well ^^ | 22:55 |
| ximion | apachelogger: Btw: Do I have to write a request for sync of PackageKit into Natty from Debian Experimental? | 22:55 |
| apachelogger | that depends on whether we have a ubuntuN version suffix | 22:56 |
| apachelogger | because then it will probably need a merge to maintain the delta | 22:56 |
| dantti | ximion: btw you could package libdebconf-kde which is in extragear at GIT :D | 22:57 |
| dantti | ximion: and I added the cmd line option so you can pass the socket path to the cmd line too | 22:58 |
| dantti | tool | 22:58 |
| ximion | dantti: sure | 22:58 |
| dantti | I'm waiting for admins to create a repo for apper now | 22:58 |
| ximion | apachelogger: I already did all the merging stuff in Debian. The package should work out-of-the-box. | 22:58 |
| ximion | apachelogger: The only Ubuntu-specific thing is the vendor patch, I prepared on for Ubuntu here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~packagekit/packagekit/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/vendor.patch | 22:59 |
| ximion | PackageKit does not show up on merges.ubuntu.com, that's why I ask. | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | hm | 23:00 |
| ximion | (Cause sharing code between Natty and unstable is easier if both packages have the same basis :P Also, the Debian-version is newer) | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | well | 23:01 |
| apachelogger | I think we are merging from unstable this cycle around | 23:01 |
| apachelogger | new packagekit is in experimental, is it not? | 23:01 |
| ximion | dantti: You need to provide a tarball of debconf-kde for me to package it... | 23:01 |
| ximion | apachelogger: Yes, it is in experimental | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | that is probably why it does not show up | 23:02 |
| ximion | the APTcc code requires at leas GLib 2.26, sid has 2.24, exp has 2.27, so it is in experimental at time | 23:02 |
| * yofel thinks he found the failing patch.. | 23:02 | |
| ximion | apachelogger: there's also a newer version of it in unstable | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | ximion: I'll take a look at over the weekend (hopefully) | 23:03 |
| ximion | apachelogger: See http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=packagekit | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna, Riddell, ScottK: ^ packagekit needs merging, in case either of you has time | 23:03 |
| ximion | ok, thanks! :) | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | ximion: thanks for the heads up | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | ximion: for debconf you could just use the ubuntu tar https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdebconf-kde | 23:03 |
| ximion | apachelogger: Some DD require a debian/watch file, that's why I'm asking for it... | 23:06 |
| ximion | I'll take the Ubuntu package as starting point, maybe there are only a few changes needed for Debian. | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | well, since there was no proper release yet, you cannot make one ;) | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | ximion: possibly you will need to create a get-orig-source target though | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | some odd people require them if a watch file is not possible | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | apachelogger is one of them I think... ;) | 23:07 |
| ximion | maybe dantti plans a release soon... if so, I'll finish the implementation in PackageKit (then PackageKit will support Debconf-KDE, which APT does not - strange world :P) | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | ximion: I wouldnt count on it, dantti is release shy ;) | 23:10 |
| ximion | apachelogger: Get-orig-source and debian/watch are both really useful, saves a lot of work. (Especially for people not knowing the application, who just want to upload the package with a small fix) | 23:10 |
| ximion | :P | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | I am harassing him for a printer manager release for weeks ... no movement there ... ;) | 23:10 |
| ximion | I'm really buisy with some other stuff here too, so I don't know when I'll finish this package... (There's also some code I want to develop for PK this weekend) | 23:13 |
| ximion | but if I'm ready, I think mvo will upload it | 23:13 |
| seele | apachelogger: +1 breadcrumbs | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 23:14 |
| ximion | apachelogger: I'll make a get-orig-source rule for the KDE Git | 23:15 |
| ximion | (if I found debconf-kde there!) | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | not sure if it moved yet | 23:16 |
| ximion | apachelogger: It did: git://git.kde.org/libdebconf-kde | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | so magic | 23:17 |
| ximion | really nice KDE uses Git now :) | 23:17 |
| Tm_T | KDE SC doesn't use yet | 23:18 |
| ximion | Tm_T: But they will ^^ IMO Git is | 23:19 |
| ximion | ...the best DVCS for large projects :P | 23:19 |
| yofel | better than bazaar at least *sigh* | 23:19 |
| ximion | (But I'm a Git-fan, Mercurial or DARCS people would strongly disagree) | 23:20 |
| Tm_T | ximion: will, thus my "yet" | 23:20 |
| ximion | yofel: Bzr really needs a git-like cherry-pick feature (The thing I miss the most) | 23:21 |
| ximion | Tm_T: Yes, I was wrong there, I first thought a lot more KDE SC projects would use Git now, but the "important" parts still is in SVN | 23:22 |
| yofel | it needs some general rework, when I checkout branches I have no idea how long it'll take since the estimate is corrected all the time, and having a bzr process that's using over half a GiB of memory is crazy | 23:22 |
| yofel | I only noticed some of the kdesupport stuff moving to git.kde.org, but even there not everything | 23:22 |
| Tm_T | each project do their own move | 23:23 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: kdelibs have rules finished for git move | 23:23 |
| yofel | \o/ | 23:23 |
| ximion | yofel: Python-tool :P Fortunately I only use Bazaar for the PackageKit packaging, since it is the only VCS Launchpad supports and it's easier to collaborate with Ubuntu there. | 23:23 |
| Quintasan | yofel: fooey, we still are unable to do anything :/ | 23:23 |
| bulldog98 | and they have a repro right now, but it wasn’t synced yet (it’s empty until tomorrow) | 23:23 |
| yofel | yeah... :'( | 23:24 |
| Quintasan | They'd better move this whole code before we get this bug in recipes fixed | 23:24 |
| ximion | need to leave now... | 23:24 |
| ximion | gn8 | 23:24 |
| Quintasan | Night ximion | 23:25 |
| yofel | gn ximion | 23:25 |
| bulldog98 | gn ximion | 23:25 |
| Quintasan | well, it's time for me too, I need some sleep. | 23:25 |
| bulldog98 | ng Quintasan | 23:25 |
| yofel | Quintasan: wanna look at policykit for lucid btw.? | 23:25 |
| yofel | I gave up | 23:25 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Ask me tomorrow, I still have at least two tests to prepare for and I'm dead tired now :P | 23:26 |
| yofel | Quintasan: sure, sleep well | 23:26 |
| Quintasan | See you later, as in 6-7 hours :P | 23:26 |
| yofel | heh | 23:27 |
| * yofel wants to finish kdelibs first | 23:27 | |
| yofel | YES, kdelibs built fine finally... | 23:33 |
| * bulldog98 hugs yofel | 23:36 | |
| Tm_T | I possibly have local KDE build done here | 23:37 |
| yofel | could anyone explain to me what purpose 23_solid_no_double_build.diff has? That's what made it fail to build | 23:38 |
| yofel | patch contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/539580/ | 23:38 |
| Tm_T | there (were?) some stuff built twice in different places | 23:39 |
| Tm_T | I guess it's possibly not needed anymore | 23:39 |
| yofel | I didn't remove it but disabled it for now | 23:40 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1203430 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (10 files in 4 dirs) Add a GUI for searching | 23:40 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1203432 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Hide the search edit if the view type cannot search | 23:48 |
| JontheEchidna | search is complete \o/ | 23:48 |
| JontheEchidna | http://imagebin.ca/view/HtxAH3Pe.html | 23:50 |
| CIA-24 | [muon] jmthomas * 1203434 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/CategoryView/CategoryViewWidget.cpp If there already is an existing search view, but we are at a higher place in the heirarchy, switch back to the search view when we search again | 23:54 |
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