surferdude | Hi all, I just tried to build Ubuntu 10.10 for my BeagleBoard xM. On the serial console I get a login prompt but I don't know what to type in. Does anyone know what the default is? | 01:40 |
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surferdude | I'm not even getting any video output on the hdmi port | 01:50 |
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GrueMaster | It depends on what image you used and what rev board you have. | 03:27 |
GrueMaster | surferdude: ^^^ | 03:27 |
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Sp0tter | are there any ebook readers taht run ubuntu? | 04:04 |
Sp0tter | (v-ink displays, not tft) | 04:04 |
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hrw | morning | 08:27 |
dex` | g.m. | 08:28 |
ranjith | hi all | 09:55 |
ranjith | is there only ubuntu netbook for omap4 blaze ..? | 10:05 |
ranjith | or is there any noraml ubuntu image avalable for omap4 blaze .? | 10:05 |
rsalveti | ranjith: you mean the default ui? | 10:08 |
ranjith | yes | 10:08 |
rsalveti | you can install whatever ui you want later on | 10:08 |
rsalveti | the netbook efl is just the default | 10:08 |
ranjith | ok. so that means only the netbook binaries are available for omap4 blaze.. | 10:09 |
rsalveti | yes | 10:09 |
ranjith | but this is not that much different form default one.. | 10:09 |
rsalveti | it's the only image we're producing for arm | 10:09 |
ranjith | so first i have to get the netbook prebuilt image running and then unstall the default ui if required.. | 10:10 |
rsalveti | yes | 10:10 |
ranjith | one more doubt.. is there any reason that there is not arm ubuntu with the default ui ..? | 10:10 |
ranjith | because I want to develope some applications that is intended to run in ubuntu running in omap4 blaze .. | 10:11 |
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ndec | ogra: rsalveti: hi! have you tried already a USB headset on panda? | 14:06 |
rsalveti | hm, not yet, but can easily try | 14:07 |
rsalveti | let's see | 14:07 |
ogra_ac | nope, but it should just work | 14:07 |
ndec | ogra: rsalveti: it does not work for me. I can see the the USB driver detects the USB peripheral, and the model (logitech), but PA does not see it. | 14:07 |
ogra_ac | weird | 14:07 |
ndec | if i compare when I plug the same headset in my laptop I have one extra debug mess in dmesg: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio | 14:08 |
ndec | perhaps something broken in the kernel config | 14:08 |
ogra_ac | hmm | 14:08 |
* ogra_ac checks | 14:08 | |
ndec | bug USB_AUDIO and SND_USB_AUDIO are set | 14:08 |
ogra_ac | ah, crap, my panda isnt booted | 14:08 |
ndec | ogra: that can be fixed easily ;-) | 14:08 |
ogra_ac | no, i have to go to my office for that ;) | 14:09 |
ndec | damn it! | 14:09 |
rsalveti | currently I'm on natty, and my logitech usb headset worked fine | 14:09 |
rsalveti | let my try on maverick | 14:10 |
ogra_ac | hatty hs definitely all the fixes, probably ndec misses one on maverick | 14:11 |
rsalveti | just booting maverick | 14:11 |
ndec | rsalveti: ogra: well it looks like my panda does not my usb webcam too... crashed the board | 14:14 |
ogra_ac | ouch | 14:15 |
ogra_ac | that sounds like some more low level problem | 14:15 |
rsalveti | ndec: also worked fine | 14:16 |
rsalveti | same way as natty | 14:16 |
ndec | rsalveti: for sound or cam? | 14:16 |
* rsalveti currently listening absolute classic rock radio on rhythmbox | 14:16 | |
ndec | over wlan? | 14:17 |
rsalveti | ndec: sorry, sound | 14:17 |
rsalveti | nops, ethernet, but should be fine over wlan | 14:17 |
rsalveti | ndec: are you using the default ubuntu kernel for panda? | 14:19 |
ndec | rsalveti: ogra: ok. so ASOC detects it. i can see the headset in /proc/asound. so it's something with PA config ;-) since I am using a custom config, that might be the problem... | 14:19 |
rsalveti | probably | 14:20 |
ndec | rsalveti: no, i am using a more recent kernel with power management ;-) | 14:20 |
ogra_ac | aha | 14:20 |
ogra_ac | you didnt say that ;) | 14:20 |
rsalveti | ndec: cool, is it working fine already? | 14:20 |
ogra_ac | changed pulse config will very likely break it | 14:20 |
ndec | not too bad. | 14:20 |
ndec | you should be able to build from sebjan tree, btw. | 14:21 |
ndec | or better, we should push a package in the PPA | 14:21 |
rsalveti | true, just need to fine time to do some testing | 14:21 |
rsalveti | *find | 14:21 |
rsalveti | we should also ask cooloney to help testing this tree | 14:21 |
ogra_ac | ndec, cooloney should just shove it into natty | 14:22 |
ogra_ac | so we get wider user testing | 14:22 |
rsalveti | at least for now it should be fine if we get into natty | 14:22 |
ndec | sebjan: ^^^ any thoughts? | 14:22 |
rsalveti | later on when we fully tested it we can port it to maverick | 14:22 |
ndec | it's .35 based, still. | 14:23 |
ndec | but you might be right... let's discuss in the call ! | 14:23 |
ndec | it will break the ducati stuff. | 14:23 |
ogra_ac | oh, that will make robclark cry | 14:24 |
* rsalveti runs to get some food before the call | 14:24 | |
ogra_ac | oh, good idea | 14:24 |
ndec | ogra_ac: this is a 4PM call for you ;-) no need for food... | 14:25 |
ogra_ac | ndec, i have a 2h release meeting right after it | 14:25 |
ndec | ogra: ;-) | 14:25 |
ogra_ac | (and then vacation til end of the year) ;) | 14:25 |
janimo | ogra, rsalveti is there another call shortly? | 14:43 |
Sp0tter | are there any ereaders with the e-ink displays taht work with ubuntu | 14:44 |
armin76 | Sp0tter: doubt there any armv7 ebooks | 14:53 |
Sp0tter | drats | 14:53 |
Sp0tter | i just bought a kindle3 | 14:54 |
Sp0tter | was hoping to do more with it than just read books :( | 14:54 |
ogra_ac | armin76, there are | 14:54 |
Sp0tter | really just wanted an ssh client | 14:54 |
armin76 | ogra_ac: examples? | 14:54 |
ogra_ac | the nook is v7 based afaik | 14:54 |
armin76 | Sp0tter: you don't need ubuntu to have an ssh client...debian could do, for example | 14:55 |
Sp0tter | yea taht would work fine too | 14:56 |
Sp0tter | i don thave an ubuntu preference over debian | 14:56 |
Sp0tter | i just figured thisis a good place to ask about linux on devices | 14:56 |
armin76 | ogra_ac: nookdevs.com/teardown says armv6 | 14:57 |
ogra_ac | the new one with the color display is supposed to be omap based | 14:57 |
Sp0tter | seems to be more interest in the nook than kindle | 14:57 |
Sp0tter | for third party devs | 14:57 |
Sp0tter | why is that | 14:57 |
* ogra_ac wonders why anyone would do anything beyond reading with an ebook reader | 14:57 | |
Sp0tter | why not? | 14:58 |
ogra_ac | for arm development there are cheaper or more powerful systems | 14:58 |
Sp0tter | people also hack ebooks to add more fonts and languages | 14:58 |
Sp0tter | but if you are going to take your book somewhere, why not take IRC also | 14:58 |
ogra_ac | because i usually have my ac100 in my bag anyway ;) | 14:59 |
Sp0tter | you said people | 14:59 |
Sp0tter | not you | 14:59 |
Sp0tter | heh | 14:59 |
robclark | ndec / ogra_ac: libdce (and therefore gst-ducati) already works with L24.11 kernel... if the issue you were worried about breaking ducati was related to kernel migration.. | 14:59 |
ogra_ac | you said you above ;) | 14:59 |
armin76 | ogra_ac: right, the nook color is omap3621 | 14:59 |
ndec | robclark: if you are authorized to release ducati firmware for L24.11 then I should be too ;-) | 15:01 |
Sp0tter | ogra_ac: what do you liek about th eAC100 over a regualr asus EEE netbook | 15:01 |
robclark | ndec: you don't need to change the codecs.. the only parts I had to update for L24.9->L24.11 was libdce which is already opensrc ;-) | 15:01 |
ogra_ac | Sp0tter, its arm and i can do my development work on it | 15:01 |
hrw | Sp0tter: size? | 15:02 |
ogra_ac | Sp0tter, beyond that you need to physically compare them | 15:02 |
robclark | ndec: and btw, it already has some error recovery/cleanup that the official fw doesn't have ;-) | 15:02 |
ogra_ac | ac100 is a quater of the weight and has no moving parts inside | 15:02 |
Sp0tter | hrw: are you asking me? | 15:02 |
hrw | Sp0tter: ac100 (or efikasb) are ~half of atom netbooks | 15:02 |
ogra_ac | its as thin as a folder | 15:02 |
ndec | robclark: well, that's because you don't use OMX! | 15:03 |
robclark | it does simplify some things, doesn't it ;-) | 15:03 |
ndec | robclark: definitely. | 15:03 |
Sp0tter | i wodner if its really worth it to get a closed-device like a Kindle to have the e-ink over a regualr screen | 15:06 |
Sp0tter | was only $140 | 15:06 |
hrw | you can always sell it or give as a gift to someone | 15:08 |
Sp0tter | thats true | 15:08 |
Sp0tter | i think i can return it to amazon in 30 days with no restocking fee also | 15:08 |
Sp0tter | supposed to get here on monday | 15:08 |
Sp0tter | but i've been getting more skeptical since i ordered it heh | 15:09 |
hrw | or you will start to use it | 15:09 |
Sp0tter | yea i may love it, i just hate to know it could also use irc | 15:09 |
Sp0tter | but it can | 15:09 |
Sp0tter | cant | 15:09 |
hrw | Sp0tter: eink has slow refresh | 15:09 |
hrw | Sp0tter: it you want something for irc and such size then nook color (or other android tablet) would be better | 15:10 |
Sp0tter | i want ebook reader first | 15:10 |
Sp0tter | then other features second | 15:10 |
Sp0tter | i have a good netbook arleady | 15:10 |
hrw | netbooks... I have efikasb here and it is good only for light use. even with 2GHz dualcore x86-64 I would prefer to not use this size of device as main one | 15:11 |
Sp0tter | my main computer is a 4gh 6 core athlon | 15:12 |
Sp0tter | :) | 15:12 |
hrw | I am waiting for buldozer cpus | 15:13 |
Sp0tter | what's the best android tablet out? | 15:14 |
hrw | no idea | 15:14 |
ogra_ac | ndec, bug 664431 | 15:14 |
Sp0tter | why is that AC100 so expensive? | 15:14 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 664431 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "QT on armel is built with NEON by default (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 44)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664431 | 15:14 |
Sp0tter | it hoguht the arm based laptops were looking to be cheap | 15:14 |
Sp0tter | the kindle3 is $140 + free shipping on aazon, and its going on ebay for $180 shipped | 15:20 |
Sp0tter | ebay is retarded. | 15:20 |
ogra_ac | ndec, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-1/ | 15:45 |
rsalveti | cool, can see the link already :-) | 15:45 |
rsalveti | there we go, alpha-1 image for panda | 15:45 |
rsalveti | ogra_ac: change the topic :-) | 15:46 |
ogra_ac | yeah | 15:46 |
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ogra_ac | :) | 15:46 |
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rsalveti | ogra_ac: typo: aplha/alpha | 15:47 |
ogra_ac | oops | 15:48 |
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ogra_ac | sorry for the noise | 15:48 |
rsalveti | now it's fine :-) | 15:48 |
ogra_ac | bug 663642 | 15:56 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 663642 in linux-linaro (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "DVI doesn't work at BeagleBoard xM rev A3 (affects: 1) (heat: 97)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663642 | 15:56 |
ogra_ac | bug 673509 | 15:56 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 673509 in linux (Ubuntu) "Beagleboard-xm chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 1) (heat: 176)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673509 | 15:56 |
ogra_ac | bug 673504 | 15:57 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 673504 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Pandaboard chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 2) (heat: 192)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673504 | 15:57 |
ogra_ac | rsalveti, GrueMaster, arent the latter two "fix released" ? | 15:57 |
rsalveti | probably, let me check | 15:58 |
GrueMaster | I think they were in the .19 release kernel which is still in proposed. | 15:58 |
ogra_ac | ok | 16:00 |
rsalveti | ogra: the first one, for beagle is not yet released | 16:01 |
ogra_ac | yeah, fine then | 16:03 |
rsalveti | ogra: for panda is already on proposed, but not at updates yet | 16:03 |
ogra_ac | ok | 16:03 |
rsalveti | ogra_ac: just to know, were you able to do some work on the alsa-utils update bug? | 16:06 |
rsalveti | that got into main accidentally | 16:06 |
ogra_ac | rsalveti, nope, not yet | 16:06 |
rsalveti | ok, np, just to know | 16:06 |
ogra_ac | thats why its still on the release report | 16:07 |
ogra_ac | (else i would have moved it from SRU to released) | 16:07 |
rsalveti | yeah, that's why I wanted to check with you | 16:07 |
rsalveti | ok | 16:07 |
LetoThe2nd | xdeb as mentioned in the topic breaks in the command "xdeb -aarmel --only-explicit --apt-source linux-linaro | 17:34 |
ogra_ac | LetoThe2nd, -> hrw | 17:35 |
LetoThe2nd | hrw: log/messages: http://pastebin.com/Vr9iUt8x | 17:37 |
Neko | anyone know how when you get a disk check happening it updates plymouth with a multi-line, progress counter display rather than just the lame plymouth --message stuff I've been using? | 18:06 |
Neko | is there a script somewhere in udev or initramfs-tools or something that does this? | 18:07 |
hrw | LetoThe2nd: known, fixed in newer versions iirc | 18:21 |
hrw | versions of linux-linaro | 18:21 |
LetoThe2nd | hrw: ok.. but the same or at least similar errors also occur if i just want to build some relatively simple thing, like screen for example. | 18:24 |
LetoThe2nd | hrw: like here, when trying bash. | 18:50 |
Neko | asking again anyone know how plymouth is sent the messages from disk checks and so on, with updating percentage and multiple lines of text? | 20:33 |
Neko | ohhhh I found it.. it's mountall | 20:45 |
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GrueMaster | rsalveti: There? | 22:43 |
GrueMaster | It would appear that today's image does not have full networking capability. Unfortunately, I am working with limited testing capabilities while in downtown Portland with the PDX team. | 22:49 |
GrueMaster | Had originally planned to work on my blueprint today. Sigh. | 22:49 |
tmzt | got my chroot init program mostly working | 22:58 |
tmzt | might be useful for testing with Xephyr I don't know quite yet | 22:59 |
tmzt | it doesn't ptrace so it should work with qemu-arm | 23:00 |
dcordes | tmzt: hi! sounds good | 23:00 |
dcordes | congrats | 23:00 |
tmzt | dcordes: oh, and I had to build a new image, did the same instructions and launcher and panel work together perfectly | 23:00 |
dcordes | :) | 23:00 |
tmzt | yeah, now if it would just launch from the android app like it's supposed to | 23:01 |
dcordes | any new hacks we should document in htc linux wiki or in smartphone lp project ? | 23:01 |
tmzt | no, didn't need any | 23:01 |
dcordes | oh somebody added instructions on how to use adb in ubuntu ! | 23:01 |
tmzt | I have script that mostly converts an ubuntu-minimal though | 23:01 |
tmzt | nice | 23:01 |
tmzt | with usb_composite that should work well | 23:02 |
dcordes | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu/Leo#ADB | 23:02 |
tmzt | adb+ether been waiting since g1 for that | 23:02 |
dcordes | could you publish the script ? | 23:02 |
tmzt | soon | 23:02 |
dcordes | that will be nice | 23:02 |
tmzt | have to tweak it a little bit | 23:02 |
dcordes | I tried to rootstock ubuntu-desktop recently and failed | 23:02 |
dcordes | did you use rootstock for the ubuntu-minimal ? | 23:03 |
tmzt | yes | 23:32 |
tmzt | just something -s ubuntu-minimal | 23:32 |
tmzt | dcordes: I have a vps to put a rootstock builder on, somebody just wrote some download code for us for the downloader | 23:32 |
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