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surferdudeHi all, I just tried to build Ubuntu 10.10 for my BeagleBoard xM. On the serial console I get a login prompt but I don't know what to type in. Does anyone know what the default is?01:40
surferdudeI'm not even getting any video output on the hdmi port01:50
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GrueMasterIt depends on what image you used and what rev board you have.03:27
GrueMastersurferdude: ^^^03:27
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Sp0tterare there any ebook readers taht run ubuntu?04:04
Sp0tter(v-ink displays, not tft)04:04
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hrwmorning08:27
dex`g.m.08:28
ranjithhi all09:55
ranjithis there only ubuntu netbook for omap4 blaze ..?10:05
ranjithor is there any noraml ubuntu image avalable for omap4 blaze .?10:05
rsalvetiranjith: you mean the default ui?10:08
ranjithyes10:08
rsalvetiyou can install whatever ui you want later on10:08
rsalvetithe netbook efl is just the default10:08
ranjithok. so that means only the netbook binaries are available for omap4 blaze..10:09
rsalvetiyes10:09
ranjithbut this is not that much different form default one..10:09
rsalvetiit's the only image we're producing for arm10:09
ranjithso first i have to get the netbook prebuilt image running and then unstall the default ui if required..10:10
rsalvetiyes10:10
ranjithone more doubt.. is there any reason that there is not arm ubuntu with the default ui ..?10:10
ranjithbecause I want to develope some applications that is intended to run in ubuntu running in omap4 blaze ..10:11
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ndecogra: rsalveti: hi! have you tried already a USB headset on panda?14:06
rsalvetihm, not yet, but can easily try14:07
rsalvetilet's see14:07
ogra_acnope, but it should just work14:07
ndecogra: rsalveti: it does not work for me. I can see the the USB driver detects the USB peripheral, and the model (logitech), but PA does not see it.14:07
ogra_acweird14:07
ndecif i compare when I plug the same headset in my laptop I have one extra debug mess in dmesg: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio14:08
ndecperhaps something broken in the kernel config14:08
ogra_achmm14:08
* ogra_ac checks14:08
ndecbug USB_AUDIO and SND_USB_AUDIO are set14:08
ogra_acah, crap, my panda isnt booted14:08
ndecogra: that can be fixed easily ;-)14:08
ogra_acno, i have to go to my office for that ;)14:09
ndecdamn it!14:09
rsalveticurrently I'm on natty, and my logitech usb headset worked fine14:09
rsalvetilet my try on maverick14:10
ogra_achatty hs definitely all the fixes, probably ndec misses one on maverick14:11
rsalvetijust booting maverick14:11
ndecrsalveti: ogra: well it looks like my panda does not my usb webcam too... crashed the board14:14
ogra_acouch14:15
ogra_acthat sounds like some more low level problem14:15
rsalvetindec: also worked fine14:16
rsalvetisame way as natty14:16
ndecrsalveti: for sound or cam?14:16
* rsalveti currently listening absolute classic rock radio on rhythmbox14:16
ndecover wlan?14:17
rsalvetindec: sorry, sound14:17
rsalvetinops, ethernet, but should be fine over wlan14:17
rsalvetindec: are you using the default ubuntu kernel for panda?14:19
ndecrsalveti: ogra: ok. so ASOC detects it. i can see the headset in /proc/asound. so it's something with PA config ;-) since I am using a custom config, that might be the problem...14:19
rsalvetiprobably14:20
ndecrsalveti: no, i am using a more recent kernel with power management ;-)14:20
ogra_acaha14:20
ogra_acyou didnt say that ;)14:20
rsalvetindec: cool, is it working fine already?14:20
ogra_acchanged pulse config will very likely break it14:20
ndecnot too bad.14:20
ndecyou should be able to build from sebjan tree, btw.14:21
ndecor better, we should push a package in the PPA14:21
rsalvetitrue, just need to fine time to do some testing14:21
rsalveti*find14:21
rsalvetiwe should also ask cooloney to help testing this tree14:21
ogra_acndec, cooloney should just shove it into natty14:22
ogra_acso we get wider user testing14:22
rsalvetiat least for now it should be fine if we get into natty14:22
ndecsebjan: ^^^ any thoughts?14:22
rsalvetilater on when we fully tested it we can port it to maverick14:22
ndecit's .35 based, still.14:23
ndecbut you might be right... let's discuss in the call !14:23
ndecit will break the ducati stuff.14:23
ogra_acoh, that will make robclark cry14:24
* rsalveti runs to get some food before the call14:24
ogra_acoh, good idea14:24
ndecogra_ac: this is a 4PM call for you ;-) no need for food...14:25
ogra_acndec, i have a 2h release meeting right after it14:25
ndecogra: ;-)14:25
ogra_ac(and then vacation til end of the year) ;)14:25
janimoogra, rsalveti is there another call shortly?14:43
Sp0tterare there any ereaders with the e-ink displays taht work with ubuntu14:44
armin76Sp0tter: doubt there any armv7 ebooks14:53
Sp0tterdrats14:53
Sp0tteri just bought a kindle314:54
Sp0tterwas hoping to do more with it than just read books :(14:54
ogra_acarmin76, there are14:54
Sp0tterreally just wanted an ssh client14:54
armin76ogra_ac: examples?14:54
ogra_acthe nook is v7 based afaik14:54
armin76Sp0tter: you don't need ubuntu to have an ssh client...debian could do, for example14:55
Sp0tteryea taht would work fine too14:56
Sp0tteri don thave an ubuntu preference over debian14:56
Sp0tteri just figured thisis a good place to ask about linux on devices14:56
armin76ogra_ac: nookdevs.com/teardown says armv614:57
ogra_acthe new one with the color display is supposed to be omap based14:57
Sp0tterseems to be more interest in the nook than kindle14:57
Sp0tterfor third party devs14:57
Sp0tterwhy is that14:57
* ogra_ac wonders why anyone would do anything beyond reading with an ebook reader14:57
Sp0tterwhy not?14:58
ogra_acfor arm development there are cheaper or more powerful systems14:58
Sp0tterpeople also hack ebooks to add more fonts and languages14:58
Sp0tterbut if you are going to take your book somewhere, why not take IRC also14:58
ogra_acbecause i usually have my ac100 in my bag anyway ;)14:59
Sp0tteryou said people14:59
Sp0tternot you14:59
Sp0tterheh14:59
robclarkndec / ogra_ac: libdce (and therefore gst-ducati) already works with L24.11 kernel...  if the issue you were worried about breaking ducati was related to kernel migration..14:59
ogra_acyou said you above ;)14:59
armin76ogra_ac: right, the nook color is omap362114:59
ndecrobclark: if you are authorized to release ducati firmware for L24.11 then I should be too ;-)15:01
Sp0tterogra_ac: what do you liek about th eAC100 over  a regualr asus EEE netbook15:01
robclarkndec: you don't need to change the codecs.. the only parts I had to update for L24.9->L24.11 was libdce which is already opensrc ;-)15:01
ogra_acSp0tter, its arm and i can do my development work on it15:01
hrwSp0tter: size?15:02
ogra_acSp0tter, beyond that you need to physically compare them15:02
robclarkndec: and btw, it already has some error recovery/cleanup that the official fw doesn't have ;-)15:02
ogra_acac100 is a quater of the weight and has no moving parts inside15:02
Sp0tterhrw: are you asking me?15:02
hrwSp0tter: ac100 (or efikasb) are ~half of atom netbooks15:02
ogra_acits as thin as a folder15:02
ndecrobclark: well, that's because you don't use OMX!15:03
robclarkit does simplify some things, doesn't it ;-)15:03
ndecrobclark: definitely.15:03
Sp0tteri wodner if its really worth it to get a closed-device like a Kindle to have the e-ink over a regualr screen15:06
Sp0tterwas only $14015:06
hrwyou can always sell it or give as a gift to someone15:08
Sp0tterthats true15:08
Sp0tteri think i can return it to amazon in 30 days with no restocking fee also15:08
Sp0ttersupposed to get here on monday15:08
Sp0tterbut i've been getting more skeptical since i ordered it heh15:09
hrwor you will start to use it15:09
Sp0tteryea i may love it, i just hate to know it could also use irc15:09
Sp0tterbut it can15:09
Sp0ttercant15:09
hrwSp0tter: eink has slow refresh15:09
hrwSp0tter: it you want something for irc and such size then nook color (or other android tablet) would be better15:10
Sp0tteri want ebook reader first15:10
Sp0tterthen other features second15:10
Sp0tteri have a good netbook arleady15:10
hrwnetbooks... I have efikasb here and it is good only for light use. even with 2GHz dualcore x86-64 I would prefer to not use this size of device as main one15:11
Sp0ttermy main computer is a 4gh 6 core athlon15:12
Sp0tter:)15:12
hrwI am waiting for buldozer cpus15:13
Sp0tterwhat's the best android tablet out?15:14
hrwno idea15:14
ogra_acndec, bug 66443115:14
Sp0tterwhy is that AC100 so expensive?15:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 664431 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "QT on armel is built with NEON by default (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 44)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66443115:14
Sp0tterit hoguht the arm based laptops were looking to be cheap15:14
Sp0tterthe kindle3 is $140 + free shipping on aazon, and its going on ebay for $180 shipped15:20
Sp0tterebay is retarded.15:20
ogra_acndec, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-1/15:45
rsalveticool, can see the link already :-)15:45
rsalvetithere we go, alpha-1 image for panda15:45
rsalvetiogra_ac: change the topic :-)15:46
ogra_acyeah15:46
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ogra_ac:)15:46
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rsalvetiogra_ac: typo: aplha/alpha15:47
ogra_acoops15:48
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ogra_acsorry for the noise15:48
rsalvetinow it's fine :-)15:48
ogra_acbug 66364215:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 663642 in linux-linaro (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "DVI doesn't work at BeagleBoard xM rev A3 (affects: 1) (heat: 97)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66364215:56
ogra_acbug 67350915:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 673509 in linux (Ubuntu) "Beagleboard-xm chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 1) (heat: 176)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67350915:56
ogra_acbug 67350415:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 673504 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Pandaboard chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 2) (heat: 192)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67350415:57
ogra_acrsalveti, GrueMaster, arent the latter two "fix released" ?15:57
rsalvetiprobably, let me check15:58
GrueMasterI think they were in the .19 release kernel which is still in proposed.15:58
ogra_acok16:00
rsalvetiogra: the first one, for beagle is not yet released16:01
ogra_acyeah, fine then16:03
rsalvetiogra: for panda is already on proposed, but not at updates yet16:03
ogra_acok16:03
rsalvetiogra_ac: just to know, were you able to do some work on the alsa-utils update bug?16:06
rsalvetithat got into main accidentally16:06
ogra_acrsalveti, nope, not yet16:06
rsalvetiok, np, just to know16:06
ogra_acthats why its still on the release report16:07
ogra_ac(else i would have moved it from SRU to released)16:07
rsalvetiyeah, that's why I wanted to check with you16:07
rsalvetiok16:07
LetoThe2ndxdeb as mentioned in the topic breaks in the command "xdeb -aarmel --only-explicit --apt-source linux-linaro17:34
ogra_acLetoThe2nd, -> hrw17:35
LetoThe2ndhrw: log/messages: http://pastebin.com/Vr9iUt8x17:37
Nekoanyone know how when you get a disk check happening it updates plymouth with a multi-line, progress counter display rather than just the lame plymouth --message stuff I've been using?18:06
Nekois there a script somewhere in udev or initramfs-tools or something that does this?18:07
hrwLetoThe2nd: known, fixed in newer versions iirc18:21
hrwversions of linux-linaro18:21
LetoThe2ndhrw: ok.. but the same or at least similar errors also occur if i just want to build some relatively simple thing, like screen for example.18:24
LetoThe2ndhrw: like here, when trying bash.18:50
Nekoasking again anyone know how plymouth is sent the messages from disk checks and so on, with updating percentage and multiple lines of text?20:33
Nekoohhhh I found it.. it's mountall20:45
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GrueMasterrsalveti: There?22:43
GrueMasterIt would appear that today's image does not have full networking capability.  Unfortunately, I am working with limited testing capabilities while in downtown Portland with the PDX team.22:49
GrueMasterHad originally planned to work on my blueprint today.  Sigh.22:49
tmztgot my chroot init program mostly working22:58
tmztmight be useful for testing with Xephyr I don't know quite yet22:59
tmztit doesn't ptrace so it should work with qemu-arm23:00
dcordestmzt: hi! sounds good23:00
dcordescongrats23:00
tmztdcordes: oh, and I had to build a new image, did the same instructions and launcher and panel work together perfectly23:00
dcordes:)23:00
tmztyeah, now if it would just launch from the android app like it's supposed to23:01
dcordesany new hacks we should document in htc linux wiki or in smartphone lp project ?23:01
tmztno, didn't need any23:01
dcordesoh somebody added instructions on how to use adb in ubuntu !23:01
tmztI have script that mostly converts an ubuntu-minimal though23:01
tmztnice23:01
tmztwith usb_composite that should work well23:02
dcordeshttp://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu/Leo#ADB23:02
tmztadb+ether been waiting since g1 for that23:02
dcordescould you publish the script ?23:02
tmztsoon23:02
dcordesthat will be nice23:02
tmzthave to tweak it a little bit23:02
dcordesI tried to rootstock ubuntu-desktop recently and failed23:02
dcordesdid you use rootstock for the ubuntu-minimal ?23:03
tmztyes23:32
tmztjust something -s ubuntu-minimal23:32
tmztdcordes: I have a vps to put a rootstock builder on, somebody just wrote some download code for us for the downloader23:32

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