[01:40] Hi all, I just tried to build Ubuntu 10.10 for my BeagleBoard xM. On the serial console I get a login prompt but I don't know what to type in. Does anyone know what the default is? [01:50] I'm not even getting any video output on the hdmi port === asac_ is now known as asac [03:27] It depends on what image you used and what rev board you have. [03:27] surferdude: ^^^ === xfaf is now known as zul [04:04] are there any ebook readers taht run ubuntu? [04:04] (v-ink displays, not tft) === njpatel is now known as njpatel_ === hrw|gone is now known as hrw [08:27] morning [08:28] g.m. [09:55] hi all [10:05] is there only ubuntu netbook for omap4 blaze ..? [10:05] or is there any noraml ubuntu image avalable for omap4 blaze .? [10:08] ranjith: you mean the default ui? [10:08] yes [10:08] you can install whatever ui you want later on [10:08] the netbook efl is just the default [10:09] ok. so that means only the netbook binaries are available for omap4 blaze.. [10:09] yes [10:09] but this is not that much different form default one.. [10:09] it's the only image we're producing for arm [10:10] so first i have to get the netbook prebuilt image running and then unstall the default ui if required.. [10:10] yes [10:10] one more doubt.. is there any reason that there is not arm ubuntu with the default ui ..? [10:11] because I want to develope some applications that is intended to run in ubuntu running in omap4 blaze .. === dmart__ is now known as dmart === amitk is now known as amitk-afk [14:06] ogra: rsalveti: hi! have you tried already a USB headset on panda? [14:07] hm, not yet, but can easily try [14:07] let's see [14:07] nope, but it should just work [14:07] ogra: rsalveti: it does not work for me. I can see the the USB driver detects the USB peripheral, and the model (logitech), but PA does not see it. [14:07] weird [14:08] if i compare when I plug the same headset in my laptop I have one extra debug mess in dmesg: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio [14:08] perhaps something broken in the kernel config [14:08] hmm [14:08] * ogra_ac checks [14:08] bug USB_AUDIO and SND_USB_AUDIO are set [14:08] ah, crap, my panda isnt booted [14:08] ogra: that can be fixed easily ;-) [14:09] no, i have to go to my office for that ;) [14:09] damn it! [14:09] currently I'm on natty, and my logitech usb headset worked fine [14:10] let my try on maverick [14:11] hatty hs definitely all the fixes, probably ndec misses one on maverick [14:11] just booting maverick [14:14] rsalveti: ogra: well it looks like my panda does not my usb webcam too... crashed the board [14:15] ouch [14:15] that sounds like some more low level problem [14:16] ndec: also worked fine [14:16] same way as natty [14:16] rsalveti: for sound or cam? [14:16] * rsalveti currently listening absolute classic rock radio on rhythmbox [14:17] over wlan? [14:17] ndec: sorry, sound [14:17] nops, ethernet, but should be fine over wlan [14:19] ndec: are you using the default ubuntu kernel for panda? [14:19] rsalveti: ogra: ok. so ASOC detects it. i can see the headset in /proc/asound. so it's something with PA config ;-) since I am using a custom config, that might be the problem... [14:20] probably [14:20] rsalveti: no, i am using a more recent kernel with power management ;-) [14:20] aha [14:20] you didnt say that ;) [14:20] ndec: cool, is it working fine already? [14:20] changed pulse config will very likely break it [14:20] not too bad. [14:21] you should be able to build from sebjan tree, btw. [14:21] or better, we should push a package in the PPA [14:21] true, just need to fine time to do some testing [14:21] *find [14:21] we should also ask cooloney to help testing this tree [14:22] ndec, cooloney should just shove it into natty [14:22] so we get wider user testing [14:22] at least for now it should be fine if we get into natty [14:22] sebjan: ^^^ any thoughts? [14:22] later on when we fully tested it we can port it to maverick [14:23] it's .35 based, still. [14:23] but you might be right... let's discuss in the call ! [14:23] it will break the ducati stuff. [14:24] oh, that will make robclark cry [14:24] * rsalveti runs to get some food before the call [14:24] oh, good idea [14:25] ogra_ac: this is a 4PM call for you ;-) no need for food... [14:25] ndec, i have a 2h release meeting right after it [14:25] ogra: ;-) [14:25] (and then vacation til end of the year) ;) [14:43] ogra, rsalveti is there another call shortly? [14:44] are there any ereaders with the e-ink displays taht work with ubuntu [14:53] Sp0tter: doubt there any armv7 ebooks [14:53] drats [14:54] i just bought a kindle3 [14:54] was hoping to do more with it than just read books :( [14:54] armin76, there are [14:54] really just wanted an ssh client [14:54] ogra_ac: examples? [14:54] the nook is v7 based afaik [14:55] Sp0tter: you don't need ubuntu to have an ssh client...debian could do, for example [14:56] yea taht would work fine too [14:56] i don thave an ubuntu preference over debian [14:56] i just figured thisis a good place to ask about linux on devices [14:57] ogra_ac: nookdevs.com/teardown says armv6 [14:57] the new one with the color display is supposed to be omap based [14:57] seems to be more interest in the nook than kindle [14:57] for third party devs [14:57] why is that [14:57] * ogra_ac wonders why anyone would do anything beyond reading with an ebook reader [14:58] why not? [14:58] for arm development there are cheaper or more powerful systems [14:58] people also hack ebooks to add more fonts and languages [14:58] but if you are going to take your book somewhere, why not take IRC also [14:59] because i usually have my ac100 in my bag anyway ;) [14:59] you said people [14:59] not you [14:59] heh [14:59] ndec / ogra_ac: libdce (and therefore gst-ducati) already works with L24.11 kernel... if the issue you were worried about breaking ducati was related to kernel migration.. [14:59] you said you above ;) [14:59] ogra_ac: right, the nook color is omap3621 [15:01] robclark: if you are authorized to release ducati firmware for L24.11 then I should be too ;-) [15:01] ogra_ac: what do you liek about th eAC100 over a regualr asus EEE netbook [15:01] ndec: you don't need to change the codecs.. the only parts I had to update for L24.9->L24.11 was libdce which is already opensrc ;-) [15:01] Sp0tter, its arm and i can do my development work on it [15:02] Sp0tter: size? [15:02] Sp0tter, beyond that you need to physically compare them [15:02] ndec: and btw, it already has some error recovery/cleanup that the official fw doesn't have ;-) [15:02] ac100 is a quater of the weight and has no moving parts inside [15:02] hrw: are you asking me? [15:02] Sp0tter: ac100 (or efikasb) are ~half of atom netbooks [15:02] its as thin as a folder [15:03] robclark: well, that's because you don't use OMX! [15:03] it does simplify some things, doesn't it ;-) [15:03] robclark: definitely. [15:06] i wodner if its really worth it to get a closed-device like a Kindle to have the e-ink over a regualr screen [15:06] was only $140 [15:08] you can always sell it or give as a gift to someone [15:08] thats true [15:08] i think i can return it to amazon in 30 days with no restocking fee also [15:08] supposed to get here on monday [15:09] but i've been getting more skeptical since i ordered it heh [15:09] or you will start to use it [15:09] yea i may love it, i just hate to know it could also use irc [15:09] but it can [15:09] cant [15:09] Sp0tter: eink has slow refresh [15:10] Sp0tter: it you want something for irc and such size then nook color (or other android tablet) would be better [15:10] i want ebook reader first [15:10] then other features second [15:10] i have a good netbook arleady [15:11] netbooks... I have efikasb here and it is good only for light use. even with 2GHz dualcore x86-64 I would prefer to not use this size of device as main one [15:12] my main computer is a 4gh 6 core athlon [15:12] :) [15:13] I am waiting for buldozer cpus [15:14] what's the best android tablet out? [15:14] no idea [15:14] ndec, bug 664431 [15:14] why is that AC100 so expensive? [15:14] Launchpad bug 664431 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "QT on armel is built with NEON by default (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 44)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664431 [15:14] it hoguht the arm based laptops were looking to be cheap [15:20] the kindle3 is $140 + free shipping on aazon, and its going on ebay for $180 shipped [15:20] ebay is retarded. [15:45] ndec, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-1/ [15:45] cool, can see the link already :-) [15:45] there we go, alpha-1 image for panda [15:46] ogra_ac: change the topic :-) [15:46] yeah === ogra_ac changed the topic of #ubuntu-arm to: Ubuntu ARM Discussion & Development | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM | Want to Submit a Bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | Build a rootfs from scratch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch | wanna cross build ? http://42.pl/u/2u8U | Natty aplha 1 at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-1/ [15:46] :) === prpplague^2 is now known as prpplague [15:47] ogra_ac: typo: aplha/alpha [15:48] oops === ogra_ac changed the topic of #ubuntu-arm to: Ubuntu ARM Discussion & Development | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM | Want to Submit a Bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | Build a rootfs from scratch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch | wanna cross build ? http://42.pl/u/2u8U | Natty alpha 1 at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-1/ [15:48] sorry for the noise [15:48] now it's fine :-) [15:56] bug 663642 [15:56] Launchpad bug 663642 in linux-linaro (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "DVI doesn't work at BeagleBoard xM rev A3 (affects: 1) (heat: 97)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663642 [15:56] bug 673509 [15:56] Launchpad bug 673509 in linux (Ubuntu) "Beagleboard-xm chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 1) (heat: 176)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673509 [15:57] bug 673504 [15:57] Launchpad bug 673504 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Pandaboard chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 2) (heat: 192)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673504 [15:57] rsalveti, GrueMaster, arent the latter two "fix released" ? [15:58] probably, let me check [15:58] I think they were in the .19 release kernel which is still in proposed. [16:00] ok [16:01] ogra: the first one, for beagle is not yet released [16:03] yeah, fine then [16:03] ogra: for panda is already on proposed, but not at updates yet [16:03] ok [16:06] ogra_ac: just to know, were you able to do some work on the alsa-utils update bug? [16:06] that got into main accidentally [16:06] rsalveti, nope, not yet [16:06] ok, np, just to know [16:07] thats why its still on the release report [16:07] (else i would have moved it from SRU to released) [16:07] yeah, that's why I wanted to check with you [16:07] ok [17:34] xdeb as mentioned in the topic breaks in the command "xdeb -aarmel --only-explicit --apt-source linux-linaro [17:35] LetoThe2nd, -> hrw [17:37] hrw: log/messages: http://pastebin.com/Vr9iUt8x [18:06] anyone know how when you get a disk check happening it updates plymouth with a multi-line, progress counter display rather than just the lame plymouth --message stuff I've been using? [18:07] is there a script somewhere in udev or initramfs-tools or something that does this? [18:21] LetoThe2nd: known, fixed in newer versions iirc [18:21] versions of linux-linaro [18:24] hrw: ok.. but the same or at least similar errors also occur if i just want to build some relatively simple thing, like screen for example. [18:50] hrw: like here, when trying bash. [20:33] asking again anyone know how plymouth is sent the messages from disk checks and so on, with updating percentage and multiple lines of text? [20:45] ohhhh I found it.. it's mountall === Neko is now known as NekoBeer [22:43] rsalveti: There? [22:49] It would appear that today's image does not have full networking capability. Unfortunately, I am working with limited testing capabilities while in downtown Portland with the PDX team. [22:49] Had originally planned to work on my blueprint today. Sigh. [22:58] got my chroot init program mostly working [22:59] might be useful for testing with Xephyr I don't know quite yet [23:00] it doesn't ptrace so it should work with qemu-arm [23:00] tmzt: hi! sounds good [23:00] congrats [23:00] dcordes: oh, and I had to build a new image, did the same instructions and launcher and panel work together perfectly [23:00] :) [23:01] yeah, now if it would just launch from the android app like it's supposed to [23:01] any new hacks we should document in htc linux wiki or in smartphone lp project ? [23:01] no, didn't need any [23:01] oh somebody added instructions on how to use adb in ubuntu ! [23:01] I have script that mostly converts an ubuntu-minimal though [23:01] nice [23:02] with usb_composite that should work well [23:02] http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu/Leo#ADB [23:02] adb+ether been waiting since g1 for that [23:02] could you publish the script ? [23:02] soon [23:02] that will be nice [23:02] have to tweak it a little bit [23:02] I tried to rootstock ubuntu-desktop recently and failed [23:03] did you use rootstock for the ubuntu-minimal ? [23:32] yes [23:32] just something -s ubuntu-minimal [23:32] dcordes: I have a vps to put a rootstock builder on, somebody just wrote some download code for us for the downloader