[01:40] <surferdude> Hi all, I just tried to build Ubuntu 10.10 for my BeagleBoard xM. On the serial console I get a login prompt but I don't know what to type in. Does anyone know what the default is?
[01:50] <surferdude> I'm not even getting any video output on the hdmi port
[03:27] <GrueMaster> It depends on what image you used and what rev board you have.
[03:27] <GrueMaster> surferdude: ^^^
[04:04] <Sp0tter> are there any ebook readers taht run ubuntu?
[04:04] <Sp0tter> (v-ink displays, not tft)
[08:27] <hrw> morning
[08:28] <dex`> g.m.
[09:55] <ranjith> hi all
[10:05] <ranjith> is there only ubuntu netbook for omap4 blaze ..?
[10:05] <ranjith> or is there any noraml ubuntu image avalable for omap4 blaze .?
[10:08] <rsalveti> ranjith: you mean the default ui?
[10:08] <ranjith> yes
[10:08] <rsalveti> you can install whatever ui you want later on
[10:08] <rsalveti> the netbook efl is just the default
[10:09] <ranjith> ok. so that means only the netbook binaries are available for omap4 blaze..
[10:09] <rsalveti> yes
[10:09] <ranjith> but this is not that much different form default one..
[10:09] <rsalveti> it's the only image we're producing for arm
[10:10] <ranjith> so first i have to get the netbook prebuilt image running and then unstall the default ui if required..
[10:10] <rsalveti> yes
[10:10] <ranjith> one more doubt.. is there any reason that there is not arm ubuntu with the default ui ..?
[10:11] <ranjith> because I want to develope some applications that is intended to run in ubuntu running in omap4 blaze ..
[14:06] <ndec> ogra: rsalveti: hi! have you tried already a USB headset on panda?
[14:07] <rsalveti> hm, not yet, but can easily try
[14:07] <rsalveti> let's see
[14:07] <ogra_ac> nope, but it should just work
[14:07] <ndec> ogra: rsalveti: it does not work for me. I can see the the USB driver detects the USB peripheral, and the model (logitech), but PA does not see it.
[14:07] <ogra_ac> weird
[14:08] <ndec> if i compare when I plug the same headset in my laptop I have one extra debug mess in dmesg: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
[14:08] <ndec> perhaps something broken in the kernel config
[14:08] <ogra_ac> hmm
[14:08]  * ogra_ac checks
[14:08] <ndec> bug USB_AUDIO and SND_USB_AUDIO are set
[14:08] <ogra_ac> ah, crap, my panda isnt booted
[14:08] <ndec> ogra: that can be fixed easily ;-)
[14:09] <ogra_ac> no, i have to go to my office for that ;)
[14:09] <ndec> damn it!
[14:09] <rsalveti> currently I'm on natty, and my logitech usb headset worked fine
[14:10] <rsalveti> let my try on maverick
[14:11] <ogra_ac> hatty hs definitely all the fixes, probably ndec misses one on maverick
[14:11] <rsalveti> just booting maverick
[14:14] <ndec> rsalveti: ogra: well it looks like my panda does not my usb webcam too... crashed the board
[14:15] <ogra_ac> ouch
[14:15] <ogra_ac> that sounds like some more low level problem
[14:16] <rsalveti> ndec: also worked fine
[14:16] <rsalveti> same way as natty
[14:16] <ndec> rsalveti: for sound or cam?
[14:16]  * rsalveti currently listening absolute classic rock radio on rhythmbox
[14:17] <ndec> over wlan?
[14:17] <rsalveti> ndec: sorry, sound
[14:17] <rsalveti> nops, ethernet, but should be fine over wlan
[14:19] <rsalveti> ndec: are you using the default ubuntu kernel for panda?
[14:19] <ndec> rsalveti: ogra: ok. so ASOC detects it. i can see the headset in /proc/asound. so it's something with PA config ;-) since I am using a custom config, that might be the problem...
[14:20] <rsalveti> probably
[14:20] <ndec> rsalveti: no, i am using a more recent kernel with power management ;-)
[14:20] <ogra_ac> aha
[14:20] <ogra_ac> you didnt say that ;)
[14:20] <rsalveti> ndec: cool, is it working fine already?
[14:20] <ogra_ac> changed pulse config will very likely break it
[14:20] <ndec> not too bad.
[14:21] <ndec> you should be able to build from sebjan tree, btw.
[14:21] <ndec> or better, we should push a package in the PPA
[14:21] <rsalveti> true, just need to fine time to do some testing
[14:21] <rsalveti> *find
[14:21] <rsalveti> we should also ask cooloney to help testing this tree
[14:22] <ogra_ac> ndec, cooloney should just shove it into natty
[14:22] <ogra_ac> so we get wider user testing
[14:22] <rsalveti> at least for now it should be fine if we get into natty
[14:22] <ndec> sebjan: ^^^ any thoughts?
[14:22] <rsalveti> later on when we fully tested it we can port it to maverick
[14:23] <ndec> it's .35 based, still.
[14:23] <ndec> but you might be right... let's discuss in the call !
[14:23] <ndec> it will break the ducati stuff.
[14:24] <ogra_ac> oh, that will make robclark cry
[14:24]  * rsalveti runs to get some food before the call
[14:24] <ogra_ac> oh, good idea
[14:25] <ndec> ogra_ac: this is a 4PM call for you ;-) no need for food...
[14:25] <ogra_ac> ndec, i have a 2h release meeting right after it
[14:25] <ndec> ogra: ;-)
[14:25] <ogra_ac> (and then vacation til end of the year) ;)
[14:43] <janimo> ogra, rsalveti is there another call shortly?
[14:44] <Sp0tter> are there any ereaders with the e-ink displays taht work with ubuntu
[14:53] <armin76> Sp0tter: doubt there any armv7 ebooks
[14:53] <Sp0tter> drats
[14:54] <Sp0tter> i just bought a kindle3
[14:54] <Sp0tter> was hoping to do more with it than just read books :(
[14:54] <ogra_ac> armin76, there are
[14:54] <Sp0tter> really just wanted an ssh client
[14:54] <armin76> ogra_ac: examples?
[14:54] <ogra_ac> the nook is v7 based afaik
[14:55] <armin76> Sp0tter: you don't need ubuntu to have an ssh client...debian could do, for example
[14:56] <Sp0tter> yea taht would work fine too
[14:56] <Sp0tter> i don thave an ubuntu preference over debian
[14:56] <Sp0tter> i just figured thisis a good place to ask about linux on devices
[14:57] <armin76> ogra_ac: nookdevs.com/teardown says armv6
[14:57] <ogra_ac> the new one with the color display is supposed to be omap based
[14:57] <Sp0tter> seems to be more interest in the nook than kindle
[14:57] <Sp0tter> for third party devs
[14:57] <Sp0tter> why is that
[14:57]  * ogra_ac wonders why anyone would do anything beyond reading with an ebook reader
[14:58] <Sp0tter> why not?
[14:58] <ogra_ac> for arm development there are cheaper or more powerful systems
[14:58] <Sp0tter> people also hack ebooks to add more fonts and languages
[14:58] <Sp0tter> but if you are going to take your book somewhere, why not take IRC also
[14:59] <ogra_ac> because i usually have my ac100 in my bag anyway ;)
[14:59] <Sp0tter> you said people
[14:59] <Sp0tter> not you
[14:59] <Sp0tter> heh
[14:59] <robclark> ndec / ogra_ac: libdce (and therefore gst-ducati) already works with L24.11 kernel...  if the issue you were worried about breaking ducati was related to kernel migration..
[14:59] <ogra_ac> you said you above ;)
[14:59] <armin76> ogra_ac: right, the nook color is omap3621
[15:01] <ndec> robclark: if you are authorized to release ducati firmware for L24.11 then I should be too ;-)
[15:01] <Sp0tter> ogra_ac: what do you liek about th eAC100 over  a regualr asus EEE netbook
[15:01] <robclark> ndec: you don't need to change the codecs.. the only parts I had to update for L24.9->L24.11 was libdce which is already opensrc ;-)
[15:01] <ogra_ac> Sp0tter, its arm and i can do my development work on it
[15:02] <hrw> Sp0tter: size?
[15:02] <ogra_ac> Sp0tter, beyond that you need to physically compare them
[15:02] <robclark> ndec: and btw, it already has some error recovery/cleanup that the official fw doesn't have ;-)
[15:02] <ogra_ac> ac100 is a quater of the weight and has no moving parts inside
[15:02] <Sp0tter> hrw: are you asking me?
[15:02] <hrw> Sp0tter: ac100 (or efikasb) are ~half of atom netbooks
[15:02] <ogra_ac> its as thin as a folder
[15:03] <ndec> robclark: well, that's because you don't use OMX!
[15:03] <robclark> it does simplify some things, doesn't it ;-)
[15:03] <ndec> robclark: definitely.
[15:06] <Sp0tter> i wodner if its really worth it to get a closed-device like a Kindle to have the e-ink over a regualr screen
[15:06] <Sp0tter> was only $140
[15:08] <hrw> you can always sell it or give as a gift to someone
[15:08] <Sp0tter> thats true
[15:08] <Sp0tter> i think i can return it to amazon in 30 days with no restocking fee also
[15:08] <Sp0tter> supposed to get here on monday
[15:09] <Sp0tter> but i've been getting more skeptical since i ordered it heh
[15:09] <hrw> or you will start to use it
[15:09] <Sp0tter> yea i may love it, i just hate to know it could also use irc
[15:09] <Sp0tter> but it can
[15:09] <Sp0tter> cant
[15:09] <hrw> Sp0tter: eink has slow refresh
[15:10] <hrw> Sp0tter: it you want something for irc and such size then nook color (or other android tablet) would be better
[15:10] <Sp0tter> i want ebook reader first
[15:10] <Sp0tter> then other features second
[15:10] <Sp0tter> i have a good netbook arleady
[15:11] <hrw> netbooks... I have efikasb here and it is good only for light use. even with 2GHz dualcore x86-64 I would prefer to not use this size of device as main one
[15:12] <Sp0tter> my main computer is a 4gh 6 core athlon
[15:12] <Sp0tter> :)
[15:13] <hrw> I am waiting for buldozer cpus
[15:14] <Sp0tter> what's the best android tablet out?
[15:14] <hrw> no idea
[15:14] <ogra_ac> ndec, bug 664431
[15:14] <Sp0tter> why is that AC100 so expensive?
[15:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 664431 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "QT on armel is built with NEON by default (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 44)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664431
[15:14] <Sp0tter> it hoguht the arm based laptops were looking to be cheap
[15:20] <Sp0tter> the kindle3 is $140 + free shipping on aazon, and its going on ebay for $180 shipped
[15:20] <Sp0tter> ebay is retarded.
[15:45] <ogra_ac> ndec, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-1/
[15:45] <rsalveti> cool, can see the link already :-)
[15:45] <rsalveti> there we go, alpha-1 image for panda
[15:46] <rsalveti> ogra_ac: change the topic :-)
[15:46] <ogra_ac> yeah
[15:46] <ogra_ac> :)
[15:47] <rsalveti> ogra_ac: typo: aplha/alpha
[15:48] <ogra_ac> oops
[15:48] <ogra_ac> sorry for the noise
[15:48] <rsalveti> now it's fine :-)
[15:56] <ogra_ac> bug 663642
[15:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 663642 in linux-linaro (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "DVI doesn't work at BeagleBoard xM rev A3 (affects: 1) (heat: 97)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663642
[15:56] <ogra_ac> bug 673509
[15:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 673509 in linux (Ubuntu) "Beagleboard-xm chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 1) (heat: 176)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673509
[15:57] <ogra_ac> bug 673504
[15:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 673504 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Pandaboard chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 2) (heat: 192)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673504
[15:57] <ogra_ac> rsalveti, GrueMaster, arent the latter two "fix released" ?
[15:58] <rsalveti> probably, let me check
[15:58] <GrueMaster> I think they were in the .19 release kernel which is still in proposed.
[16:00] <ogra_ac> ok
[16:01] <rsalveti> ogra: the first one, for beagle is not yet released
[16:03] <ogra_ac> yeah, fine then
[16:03] <rsalveti> ogra: for panda is already on proposed, but not at updates yet
[16:03] <ogra_ac> ok
[16:06] <rsalveti> ogra_ac: just to know, were you able to do some work on the alsa-utils update bug?
[16:06] <rsalveti> that got into main accidentally
[16:06] <ogra_ac> rsalveti, nope, not yet
[16:06] <rsalveti> ok, np, just to know
[16:07] <ogra_ac> thats why its still on the release report
[16:07] <ogra_ac> (else i would have moved it from SRU to released)
[16:07] <rsalveti> yeah, that's why I wanted to check with you
[16:07] <rsalveti> ok
[17:34] <LetoThe2nd> xdeb as mentioned in the topic breaks in the command "xdeb -aarmel --only-explicit --apt-source linux-linaro
[17:35] <ogra_ac> LetoThe2nd, -> hrw
[17:37] <LetoThe2nd> hrw: log/messages: http://pastebin.com/Vr9iUt8x
[18:06] <Neko> anyone know how when you get a disk check happening it updates plymouth with a multi-line, progress counter display rather than just the lame plymouth --message stuff I've been using?
[18:07] <Neko> is there a script somewhere in udev or initramfs-tools or something that does this?
[18:21] <hrw> LetoThe2nd: known, fixed in newer versions iirc
[18:21] <hrw> versions of linux-linaro
[18:24] <LetoThe2nd> hrw: ok.. but the same or at least similar errors also occur if i just want to build some relatively simple thing, like screen for example.
[18:50] <LetoThe2nd> hrw: like here, when trying bash.
[20:33] <Neko> asking again anyone know how plymouth is sent the messages from disk checks and so on, with updating percentage and multiple lines of text?
[20:45] <Neko> ohhhh I found it.. it's mountall
[22:43] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: There?
[22:49] <GrueMaster> It would appear that today's image does not have full networking capability.  Unfortunately, I am working with limited testing capabilities while in downtown Portland with the PDX team.
[22:49] <GrueMaster> Had originally planned to work on my blueprint today.  Sigh.
[22:58] <tmzt> got my chroot init program mostly working
[22:59] <tmzt> might be useful for testing with Xephyr I don't know quite yet
[23:00] <tmzt> it doesn't ptrace so it should work with qemu-arm
[23:00] <dcordes> tmzt: hi! sounds good
[23:00] <dcordes> congrats
[23:00] <tmzt> dcordes: oh, and I had to build a new image, did the same instructions and launcher and panel work together perfectly
[23:00] <dcordes> :)
[23:01] <tmzt> yeah, now if it would just launch from the android app like it's supposed to
[23:01] <dcordes> any new hacks we should document in htc linux wiki or in smartphone lp project ?
[23:01] <tmzt> no, didn't need any
[23:01] <dcordes> oh somebody added instructions on how to use adb in ubuntu !
[23:01] <tmzt> I have script that mostly converts an ubuntu-minimal though
[23:01] <tmzt> nice
[23:02] <tmzt> with usb_composite that should work well
[23:02] <dcordes> http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu/Leo#ADB
[23:02] <tmzt> adb+ether been waiting since g1 for that
[23:02] <dcordes> could you publish the script ?
[23:02] <tmzt> soon
[23:02] <dcordes> that will be nice
[23:02] <tmzt> have to tweak it a little bit
[23:02] <dcordes> I tried to rootstock ubuntu-desktop recently and failed
[23:03] <dcordes> did you use rootstock for the ubuntu-minimal ?
[23:32] <tmzt> yes
[23:32] <tmzt> just something -s ubuntu-minimal
[23:32] <tmzt> dcordes: I have a vps to put a rootstock builder on, somebody just wrote some download code for us for the downloader