[10:37] ivanka: aww, no worries. especially as i totally failed to take care about the design center thing since uds :) [10:38] ivanka, vish: so what to do? extend the artwork team logo submission period until when? [10:38] thorwil: thanks - I am hoping to get the survey going today - have to put handwritten notes into electronic format and take it from there [10:39] thorwil: vish, I don't know [10:39] thorwil: first we decide what we want to be, and then we decide how long to extend it.. [10:40] vish: i don't think "what do we want to be?" asked to the team will lead to any actionable result [10:41] thorwil: not asking the team.. i meant wait for the survey results and then.. [10:42] thorwil: afaik, the survey is to give us a clue.. [10:56] * thorwil sends mail, suggesting new deadline begin of february, for another evaluation [11:02] regarding the BR thing, i'm pretty sure "logo oficial do Time de Arte Ubuntu BR" means official logo for the Ubuntu BR Artwork Team [11:03] reminds me of the sad fact that there is no communication between various regional efforts and us [11:11] thorwil, simple enough logo [11:12] coz_: hmm? [11:13] thorwil, the ubuntu -br logo [11:17] thorwil: there is nothing BR about it, we can just use it as well... ;) [11:18] thorwil: but you have a wicked eye!, brush in the face! ;p [17:56] good day all [17:56] ello coz_ [17:56] darkmatter, hey guy :) [18:04] thorwil: i think you just made powerful enemies ;p [18:05] you extended the logo deadline, now baer will write to you more ;p [18:06] enemy* [18:40] vish: powerful? [18:40] thorwil: and he'll also trivial edit wiki ;p [18:41] guess what my wiki options say [18:41] thorwil: i unsubscribed to the projects wiki.. [18:41] i was earlier subscribed to it and then :s [18:43] thorwil: did you know about the plan for the final selection for the team logo ? [18:43] his three options? [18:43] vish: i saw them, but didn't know of any plan [18:44] thorwil: hmm, this is the first time i heard about them.. very odd making someone else pick your shirt ;p [18:44] your==team's [18:44] especially since the team is the artwork team o.0 [18:45] vish: i just misunderstood you [18:45] he mentioned the options earlier in private mail [18:45] ah! [18:46] i dont see any rationale in three of his options [18:47] each has its flaws.. first two seem totally wrong, other's can suggest options, but i dont think the final decision must lie on them [18:48] s/lie/rely [18:48] vish: i disagree. first 2 would be sensible in case we could pick few candidates, where each would be acceptable to us [18:49] thorwil: thats what i meant.. they can suggest the final options from where team chooses the one they want [18:49] that's backwards from what i meant :) [18:49] hmm, oh! :D [18:51] thorwil: yea, and what's with the private mails.. he sent the mails for the logo to all my id's o.0 [18:51] my old mac_v id.. not sure where he found that, maybe in breathe … [18:51] vish: frequency and content of his mails to me have been perfectly acceptable [18:52] vish: well, tell him which single address you prefer ;) [18:52] thorwil: yea, he has slowed down since last meeting.. [18:52] this whole circus is so damn silly [18:52] exactly!! [18:54] vish: on lo-marketing, i saw a whole bunch of people who all misunderstood my proposed vision/mission statement to somehow be about audience-facing communication and went on to propose slogans [18:55] hehe! :) [18:56] guess how even more valuable it is to see someone who applies my strategies in a meaningful way, thereby implying that he does a bit more than to understand what i'm about [18:56] and then at the same time all these communication and sync hickups [18:57] they should have had a separate ML, rather than marketing , i guess thats where the confusion starts.. [18:58] there is a design list [18:58] but in theory, what i proposed there belongs to marketing, too [18:58] just that the list seems to be full of people with a marketing->slogan shortcut in their head [18:58] :) [19:00] oh, and the definition of marketing that allows one guy to claim marketing would be about serving the customer/user ... delicious [19:00] let's define everything as broad as possible and turn the meaning around 180° for maximal clarity [19:01] more on topic, wonder what has to happen to see xubuntu wallpaper submissions that are not something blue on blue with a little blue [19:03] heh, yea.. i hadnt even checked out the guidelines, so i'm not even sure the color i modified was the right blue ;p [19:14] hello there anybody around? [19:15] i want to know what do you think of my logo for ubuntu ireland: [19:16] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1463311 [19:19] its looking like the lights are on but nobodys home.... [19:19] hi [19:20] ugh, one thing i really don't like about the forum is having to be logged in to see attachments [19:20] sorry about that... [19:20] is there any good picture uplaoding site? [19:22] foopics.com [19:22] (for temporary things) [19:22] cool thanks [19:22] wait up a sec... [19:24] well i ment a minute... [19:25] http://www.foopics.com/show/0ed294a90e6e25e97f813b91b7a57b5e [19:25] thanks [19:25] no problem... [19:26] hughbert: the knot idea has huge potential [19:26] hughbert: i think you should leave the heads as circles, becomes too busy, otherwise [19:26] really i went to my local Lug and they were like its a bit too OTT [19:27] I dont agree though so.... [19:27] you like it anyway.... [19:27] well, i like the knots [19:27] alright will do.... [19:28] hughbert: try to render the segments as rope. only [19:28] that is, not inside another shape [19:28] oo right... [19:28] overlayed [19:28] ?? [19:29] no, just single shapes, solid fill [19:30] ooo i see.... [19:30] could you maybe change it there for me because my wacom is'nt working.... [19:31] hughbert: no [19:31] thats fine [19:32] hughbert: there's at least one long thread on the ubuntu forum regarding getting your wacom to work ... [19:32] ill be getting a new one anyway soon [19:32] i steped on it... [19:32] so its fecked... [19:32] hughbert: but later on, once you are sure about the geometry, the logo should be realized in svg, with inkscape [19:33] ah ok, the forum thread can't help with things you stepped on :) [19:33] ya that would look good alright i was thinking of doing that alright.... [19:34] can i count on this being half official? [19:34] hughbert: this is not one bit official [19:35] ha ha thats grand... [19:35] hughbert: you will have to convince those in charge of the team that shall use it [19:36] hughbert: i don't belong to the canonical design team, but it would make no difference if i did, because that's how it's being handled [19:36] the teams decide themselves [19:36] i see... [19:36] i'd say that won't be too hard i got 802 views on ubuntu fourms... [19:37] the number of views don't mean a thing [19:37] thats grand... flip it anyway.... [19:37] i know the fella doing up the new site so its grand... [19:38] sure, direct contact to those who do the work is key [19:38] ya am where are you from by the by? [19:39] germany [19:39] o really cool... [19:40] particularly now, when we got lots of snow [19:41] hughbert: you are from ireland? [19:42] any way i'd better be off im working on a poster for my local LUG [19:42] If you want to take a look its: www.clarelug.blogspot.com [19:43] ya born and bred... [19:43] hughbert: he, take it easy on me, i'm not familiar with that slang :) [19:44] hughbert: nm, now i get it [19:45] in the west coast.... [19:45] ha ha .... [19:45] sorry about that... [19:45] ill try in and talk in good english... [19:45] ha ha im still laughing.. [19:45] im on the floor... [19:46] hughbert: lol, no actually at i first failed to see it was the answer to my question. so a problem of context, not so much the expression :) [19:47] but glad to be entertaining :) [19:47] you shoud come over sometime.... [19:47] ever been to ireland? [19:48] nope [19:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Clare [19:48] you should come over during the spring or summer... [19:49] we have our own airport and everything.... [19:50] maybe some day ... [19:50] your snowed in??? [19:50] we have only 3 cm of snow.... [19:51] but in the east they have 60cm its very bad over there.... [19:51] only few cm here too, it's just very early. as always, it gets worse to the south [19:51] oo right.... [19:51] it's enough to mess up the traffic [19:51] we're not used to it.... [19:52] its the worst in generations.... [19:53] anyway you can pop over anytime, your welcome to.... [19:53] thanks :) [19:53] we might have a LUG meeting.... [19:54] Stallman came to Clare back in 2001 had a big drinking session.... [19:56] thanks for your help... good luck!!! [19:56] np :) [19:57] Gute Nacht! [19:58] hughbert: good night to you, too!