/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/03/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

=== Francis1 is now known as Vanilla|Frz
Vanilla|Frzhi, can someone please teach me how to reformat ubuntu linux?00:12
head_victimVanilla|Frz: what do you want to reformat sorry. The whole drive, a new drive, a new installation?00:12
Vanilla|Frza new installation since my system is like corrupted00:13
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim:00:13
head_victimVanilla|Frz: all I would do if you're certain you want to start over is to just use the installation disk and install it again. This process will format the disk as required.00:13
Vanilla|Frzye I have the CD but it's not showing up00:14
head_victimYeah have you rebooted and selected to boot off the cd like you did to install it the first time?00:15
Vanilla|Frzmy dad isntalled this...00:15
head_victimAhh ok.00:15
Vanilla|Frzinstalled*00:15
Vanilla|Frzso i dont really know how and when to start :x00:15
head_victimOk just looking up some info for you to make it a little easier00:17
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: thanks00:17
head_victimhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation00:17
Vanilla|Frzthank you00:17
head_victimThat's a good place to start as it provides a detailed overview of it all00:18
Vanilla|Frzokies00:18
head_victimEssentially what it really comes down to is you have to download and burn an installation CD. You then have to boot the computer off the installation CD and follow the prompts. But the link earlier gives you all the details involved and different options.00:18
head_victimIf you have further problems or questions, please just let us know.00:18
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ok00:19
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: it's all gonna be useless if I dont get my CD drive to work00:25
head_victimVanilla|Frz: if you can boot off a USB drive you can use that instead.00:26
Vanilla|Frzhow about a blank cd?00:26
head_victimVanilla|Frz: but yes, you need either a bootable CD drive or USB drive to make it work.00:26
Vanilla|Frzi have a 10.04 Ubuntu CD00:27
Vanilla|Frzthat my teacher gave me this morning00:27
head_victimVanilla|Frz: is the CD drive working at all though?00:27
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: Ima try other CD00:27
head_victimVanilla|Frz: ok, might just be a fault with the CD00:28
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: i guess the CD drive isn't working at all, lol00:31
head_victimVanilla|Frz: that could be a problem then :)00:32
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: sad00:32
head_victimVanilla|Frz: but if you still want to re-install then you can see if a USB drive will work for you.00:32
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ok I'll try00:32
head_victimVanilla|Frz: I don't even have optical drives on 2 of my computers these days.00:32
head_victimJust depends on how hard it's going to be to make your computer boot off USB.00:32
Francis1head_victim: I get disconnected whenever i download or load something00:40
head_victimFrancis1: that's really odd behaviour.00:44
head_victimFrancis1: what version of Ubuntu are you using and is there any problems with your ISP at the moment?00:45
=== Francis is now known as Vanilla|Frz
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: it's at 70% right now01:07
Vanilla|Frzalmost done downloading :D01:07
head_victimVanilla|Frz: good stuff fingers crossed it works out01:08
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: :p I'd throw this laptop off the window if it doesn't work01:09
head_victimHah nah don't do that.01:09
head_victimSo did you get the cd drive working or you going to try the usb installation?01:09
Vanilla|Frzim going to try the usb installation01:10
Vanilla|Frzand yes, I'm seriously gonna do it, lol01:10
Vanilla|Frzthis laptop is garbage anyways so why not01:10
head_victimIt's surprisingly easy to make a USB installation drive these days. I knocked one up in about 5 minutes work (then just left it to format and do what it needed to).01:17
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ok i got it now01:21
Vanilla|Frzi mean it's done downloading01:21
head_victimVanilla|Frz: good, what version of Ubuntu are you currently running?01:21
Vanilla|Frz10.04?01:21
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: i downloaded that 10.1001:21
head_victimOk just checking it would have what I was thinking01:22
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: Im dragging it to my desktop01:22
head_victimVanilla|Frz: you need to go to System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator01:23
head_victimIt will pop up a window with all the options on how to make it, so easy.01:23
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ok hold on01:23
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ok I'm here01:24
Vanilla|Frzthen click Other>Ubuntu=10.10-desktop-i386.iso?01:24
head_victimThe "source disk" needs to be the ISO you just downloaded.01:24
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: yep01:25
Vanilla|Frzwhat do I do with "Disk to use:" ?01:25
head_victimTHe "disk to use" needs to be the USB drive you want to use01:25
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ij got it01:25
Vanilla|Frzok*01:25
head_victimIs the usb drive one that is blank?01:26
Vanilla|Frzit has 2.3 gb space01:26
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: installation is completed01:28
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: what do I do now?01:29
head_victimGetting a link :D01:30
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ah ok01:30
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: I dont really do anything on this pc but to play games lol01:30
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: so ya.. I dont really know much about Linux01:30
head_victimVanilla|Frz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStickQuick01:31
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: thanks01:31
head_victimYOu're up to the "Start the Ubuntu installer" part01:31
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ok ty01:32
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: Im gonna have to restart01:32
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: Thanks a lot and goodluck to me, lol01:33
=== Geo|wrk is now known as MrAnthrope
* head_victim crosses fingers.01:33
=== Francis is now known as Vanilla|Frz
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: FAIL lol01:36
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: thought the old files are gonna be removed after I installed it?01:36
head_victimVanilla|Frz: it should, that wasn't enough time. Did it boot off the USB?01:38
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: nooooooooooooo01:38
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: I'm gonna try again *sigh* hate linux01:39
=== Francis1 is now known as Vanilla|Frz
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: I give up01:50
head_victimVanilla|Frz: not working?01:50
head_victimSome computers, especially older ones, can't boot off USB easily.01:50
Vanilla|Frz.01:50
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: you do realized that I'm using Linux and not windows right01:51
head_victimYeah, that web page I linked seesm to think everyone is coming from windows but the steps are the same01:51
Vanilla|Frzand IDK how to boot or do things on this software *sigh*01:51
Vanilla|FrzI think Linux is created to frustrate people01:51
head_victimVanilla|Frz: ok, so was it booting up and giving you the purple screen?01:52
Vanilla|Frzi dont even know what you're talking about01:52
Vanilla|Frzwhat is booting?01:52
zkriesseVanilla|Frz: Turning on....01:53
Vanilla|Frzit doesn't01:53
head_victimOk when you reboot your computer and you have the USB drive plugged in you created does it go to a purple screen or just open up linux like it always has?01:53
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ok it says that I should download the universal USB thingy01:53
Vanilla|Frzand it's not even working when i tried installing01:53
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: it opens up linux like it always has01:54
head_victimVanilla|Frz: nah that universal USB thingy is what we went through with the menu System > administration > start up disk creator01:54
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: o ok.. but ya.. it starts up like it always has01:55
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: well, I dragged t hat ubuntu file in my desktop01:55
Vanilla|Frzand installed that (the one from the desktop(01:55
Vanilla|Frz)*01:55
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: I must have done it the wrong way or something01:56
head_victimOk, you have the ISO file on the desktop and a blank USB drive plugged in?01:56
Vanilla|Frznope I have ISO on the desktop and still have ISO on my usb File and it's not blanked01:57
Vanilla|Frzit has some files in it like english proj. and all that01:57
head_victimOk, you can't just copy it to the USB you have to install it.01:57
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: k you know what I did?01:58
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: I downloaded it from my mom's laptop (windows) and copied it to the USB01:58
head_victimVanilla|Frz: ahhhh ok. So now copy that to the desktop so it's stored on your linux computer.01:59
Vanilla|Frzthen I plugged in the USB to my Linux and Copied that ISO file to my desktop01:59
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: that's exactly what I did01:59
head_victimOk, so is the USB drive you moved the file with acceptable to erase or do you have another spare one?01:59
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: i still have a spare 1 in my usb drive02:00
Vanilla|Frzlike i said, I dragged it to my desktop, lol02:00
head_victimOk, for the USB install I think you're going to need an entire USB drive spare02:02
Vanilla|Frz*sigh*02:02
Vanilla|Frzgotta delete these important files then02:02
Vanilla|Frzlol02:02
head_victim(anything from 1 or 2 gb should do it)02:02
Vanilla|Frzwell02:03
Vanilla|Frzi have 2.3 gb free02:03
head_victimYeah but you need to install to it like a hard drive, you can't just copy files to it and boot off it.02:03
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: I'll brb just gonna copy these files to my mom's02:03
head_victimOk02:03
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: wow the files got wiped out02:05
Vanilla|Frz0.002:05
Vanilla|Frzmy mom's gonna kill me -.-02:05
head_victim?02:05
head_victimI thought you said you were only using the USB to copy the ISO to the desktop?02:06
Vanilla|Frzsorry got disconnected02:06
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: I'm so confused now..02:07
head_victimMe to.02:07
head_victimI thought you had not installed Ubuntu to the USB just copied the ISO over.02:07
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: ok.. Im gonna tell u again what I did02:08
Vanilla|FrzI downloaded the Ubuntu 10.10 from my mom's laptop (windows)02:08
Vanilla|Frzthen I copied it to the USB02:08
head_victimVanilla|Frz: my wife left her lunch at home so I'm going to have to head out for about 30 minutes. I can help you again when I get back if that's ok if not there might be someone else in here that can pick up from here02:08
Vanilla|FrzFML02:09
Vanilla|Frzok sir thanks anyways02:09
Vanilla|Frzwhy does ubuntu always gotta ruin my day02:09
Vanilla|Frzseriously02:09
head_victimVanilla|Frz: sorry mate I will be back though02:09
Vanilla|Frzhead_victim: later02:09
Vanilla|Frzcan any of you please help me?02:18
MrAnthropeMy android phone comes with more sound effects than Ubuntu :(04:32
Cheri703your android phone is also designed as a device intended to audibly alert you to various things04:33
Cheri703:)04:33
MrAnthropeI like audible alerts for things :(04:33
* Cheri703 is more of a blinky alert person04:34
* zkriesse agrees with Cheri703 04:34
Cheri703I usually keep my computer as quiet as possible04:34
zkriesseMaybe just a little beep or something but a pop up is better04:34
zkriesseThe only time my pc is loud is when Im either watching a really cool action/shooter/WWII/scary movie or playing a shooter game...04:35
zkriesseHearing each shell drop is just awesome04:35
head_victimThe first thing I always do is turn all sound events off.04:39
head_victimI run 3 computers through a mixer into the one set of speakers, you know how disorientating it is looking through all screens to see what blipped :)04:39
iliekubuntuhey, is "Getting time from a network time server" on installation supposed to take really long?04:51
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: Not usually04:54
iliekubuntui think its been 5 minutes now04:55
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: Is the rest of the system responding?04:55
iliekubuntuyes, cause im typing here04:55
zkriessethen it may be just lagging a bit04:56
zkriessecan happen although rare04:56
iliekubuntureally? how long would you expect it then04:57
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: Ah, I didn't know if you were on a second system :P04:57
iliekubuntuhaha live ftw04:57
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: Sometimes the servers lag; I haven't seen it that bad though.04:57
iliekubunturight now is 10 minutes so far04:58
iliekubuntuis it possible to skip it04:58
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: That's a bit much. I think you should restart the install.04:58
iliekubuntualright04:58
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: or tell it to ignore time from the network for now; I think that's an option (I use the Alternate install so I don't know much about the Live installer)04:58
iliekubuntuhmm can you tell me how to do that?04:59
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: ...I don't know how that "or" got there.05:00
iliekubuntuhmm?05:00
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: I think you can skip fetching the network time as an option in the Live installer (You can do it in the alternate install)05:00
Cheri703how are you chatting if you're installing ubuntu right now?05:01
iliekubuntuacually i dont think im in live right now05:01
Cheri703or are you installing other software?05:01
iliekubuntuno im installing ubuntu05:01
Cheri703ok, so how are you chatting from that computer? perhaps I'm missing something?05:02
iliekubuntuuh firefox popped up :D05:02
iliekubuntuso hey is it possible to skip time fetching?05:02
Cheri703while installation is running? I've never had that option...*shrug* learn something new every day05:03
bioterrormight be a kubuntu thingie :D05:03
Cheri703possible05:04
iliekubuntuno its definately ubuntu05:04
iliekubuntuaveilleux: do you recomend rebooting first?05:04
Cheri703I have enough computers floating around that if I have to, I can get online to ask questions while the others are down :)05:04
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: Just restart the installer program itself.05:04
aveilleuxiliekubuntu: Rebooting is uneccesary.05:05
iliekubuntuhuh05:05
iliekubuntuXD05:05
iliekubuntuhey what do you mean05:06
iliekubuntuyeah i think im going to reboot05:07
iliekubuntudoes "detecting file systems..." come after getting time in installation?05:27
iliekubuntudoes "detecting file systems..." come after getting time in installation?05:36
head_victimiliekubuntu: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/973-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx-step-by-step-installation-for-newbies-howto has a pretty good setup to show pictures of each of the steps.05:38
iliekubuntuI am just seeing if my installation crashed.05:39
iliekubuntuhow long should it take on a normal computer?05:39
iliekubuntui think its about 25 minutes onw05:41
iliekubuntutnow05:41
iliekubuntutnow05:41
iliekubuntunow05:41
iliekubuntulol05:41
head_victimiliekubuntu: depends on the computer, how old is it, how much ram does it have and how quick is the cpu?05:41
iliekubuntuits a pretty fast one05:42
head_victimAnd also, how big is the hard drive it's trying to partition?05:42
iliekubuntumore than 2.605:42
iliekubuntugb05:42
iliekubuntui think about 200 gb05:42
head_victimWell those things are all factors as well as network speed.05:43
iliekubuntuis network required on detecting file systems?05:43
head_victimI wouldn't have thought so but if there is no network that would cause the ntp delay you were talking about before I guess.05:44
iliekubuntuoh hey, the terminal moved!05:46
iliekubuntui think its fine now05:47
iliekubuntuhow long does an install take?05:47
iliekubuntujust wondering05:47
iliekubuntuhmm not more than an hour or two acording to a forum05:50
iliekubuntuthat makes me so happy :|05:51
iliekubuntuoh well see ya looking foward to an open system05:51
=== MrAnthrope is now known as Geo|zzz
marxhi09:35
marxI need help on my Synaptic Package Manager09:36
marxgives an error: E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2: No such file or directory) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.09:36
marxwhen I look for status* in /var/lib/dpkg, it's not there09:37
marxeven in my home directory09:37
marxplease help09:37
marxguys09:56
marxneed help09:56
marxabout Synaptics Package Manager09:56
UndiFineDmarx, hold on10:26
UndiFineDi have seen such before10:27
marxI lost my file status in /var/lib/dpkg10:28
UndiFineDthis might help you: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2935310:28
marxany status file is missing10:28
marxthanks for that.. I already came accross that thread, and it seems to be so complicated for me10:32
marxis there any way I can restore my dpkg/status from /var/backups??10:33
UndiFineDhmmm10:34
UndiFineDhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+question/6782310:37
UndiFineDthe bottom 3 comments10:37
marxI mange to open synaptic now10:56
marxmanage*10:56
marx:)10:56
marxran sudo apt-get update10:57
marxfailed10:57
marxW: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783 E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:57
marxstill working.. thanks for helping10:58
marxwill update after10:58
marxthank you <UndiFineD>11:24
UndiFineDnp marx11:34
UndiFineDdoes it work now >?11:35
marxyes11:35
marxi'm updating now11:35
marx:D11:35
marxjust fixing error:11:35
marxW: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A278311:35
UndiFineDhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61394611:40
UndiFineDactually, i should resolve some of my own gpg errors too11:47
marxgud luck my friend12:47
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genupulasneed help ....i wanna run an asm file using yasm/tasm,dont give me links ,just  give execution steps13:31
genupulasPuck`: ^^^13:32
genupulasanyone!13:34
Puck`genupulas: hi, i never heard of such files ..13:36
Puck`and if you won't learn through links, i dunno, i guess you should wait some more for anyone who has done such things before ..13:36
genupulasPuck`:  ok  i will13:37
genupulasbioterror: check logs13:38
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UndiFineDlost my MeMenu because of gwibber breakage after reinstall : http://paste.ubuntu.com/539459/15:59
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=== Guest4825 is now known as karthick87
Guest56305Heres one for the lot of you... I have a remote Ubuntu server that is accessed by SSH there is no desktop or anything pretty... How would I set up a VNC that I could connect to from my computer and receive a desktop interface?17:35
=== Geo|zzz is now known as MrAnthrope
ashand79Hello Ubuntu beginners20:06
ashand79I have a question about Launchpad and pgp keys20:07
aveilleux!ask | ashand7920:10
ubot2ashand79: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:10
ashand79I setup an account on launchpad when I realised that I had to do this to supply bug reports, soon after I setup a pgp key and signed the Ubuntu Code of conduct with it however since then I have lost the key as my harddisk died what is the procedure I should follow to remedy this situation.20:14
aveilleuxashand79: There's no real reason to re-sign the CoC.20:23
aveilleuxashand79: unless you backed up the private key (or registered it somewhere), that key is lost. Not a huge loss; you can just generate another PGP key. As long as you're not getting, say, encrypted email, you should be fine.20:25
ashand79Just wondered if it was a problem if I added a new key to my launchpad account if the fact that it didn't match the one used to sign the CoC20:27
aveilleuxashand79: Not that I'm aware of.20:27
=== MrAnthrope is now known as Geo|wrk
Geo|wrkUhg. When I plug in my phone (android, samsung moment) my SD card no longer shows up on my desktop. I don't think I changed anything so I'm not sure what's going on.20:39
Geo|wrkIt used to do this on windows sometimes too. Just randomly for a few days I couldn't access my SD card on my phone by plugging it in a USB on my computer.20:40
ashand79Ok just wanted a bit of confirmation first before going ahead with anything. I wanted to get this sorted before taking my participation to a new level. I have been answering questions in the forum, Launchpad  and now Ask Ubuntu on the stack Overflow but I wanted to get into something more fulfilling. Thank you for the advice.20:41
Geo|wrktime for wrk :(20:45
sw0rdfish_hey guys, why does the sound still continue to come out of my laptop's speakers when i plug in my headphones?22:07
=== sw0rdfish_ is now known as sw0rdfish

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