[00:29] jono: yep [00:44] jcastro, hey [00:45] have you published the first bitesize bugs blog yet? [00:47] no [00:47] the list only has 4 bugs right now [00:47] jcastro, that's fine [00:47] I think you should use that as an opportunity [00:47] yep, dbarth and I plan to fix the instructions tomorrow [00:48] list those four bugs and say there must be more bugs and to encourage people to (a) test and (b) fix [00:48] ok so you will blog it tomorrow? [00:48] I can, sure [00:48] thanks jcastro [00:48] this is going to be awesome :-) [00:48] A1 feels great too [00:48] seems the compiz bugs are largely gone [00:49] hey try this [00:49] see if you can alt-drag a window past the top of the screen [00:51] jono: also sam sent me a list of compiz low hanging fruit as well [00:51] I figured it would be a good "if you run out of these here's another place to help" [00:54] jcastro, perfect [00:54] although I am keen for the real focus to be on unity [00:54] nod [00:57] jono: menu scrubbing is still kind of flaky, but neil mentioned in the bug that he knows how to fix it and it will be in the next release [00:57] sweet [00:57] well, next week's release [00:58] yeah, a pretty good start with A1 [00:58] there's one tomorrow [00:58] going to be a rocking release [00:58] yeah [00:58] the real work for you begins tomorrow, my friend :-) [00:59] get the world passionate about testing and fixing Unity :-) [00:59] http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/unity [00:59] no huge spike quite yet! [00:59] I suspect this weekend will be when they hit [00:59] (the incoming bugs I mean) [01:02] totally [01:04] jono: oh hey, I need a recommendation for a piece of text. [01:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/673257 [01:04] Launchpad bug 673257 in unity (Ubuntu) "Please consider renaming the Unity desktop to avoid naming conflict with Unity Linux (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Low,Triaged] [01:04] where do you recommend I put this? [01:06] put what? [01:06] oh I see [01:06] a clarification [01:06] right [01:06] something like "for unity linux the distro go here, blah blah" [01:07] jcastro, stick it in the footer [01:11] This site is about the Unity the desktop shell and is not related to Unity Linux. [01:11] how's that? [01:24] jcastro, cool [01:24] we also not Unity the 3D engine [01:24] :-) [01:30] oh, good point [08:06] good morning all! [08:12] * jussi yawns and waves to dpm [08:12] TGIF [08:12] hey jussi :) [08:14] morning everyone o/ [08:14] * jussi hides from kim0 [08:15] hehe [08:16] morning kim0! [08:16] dpm: morning man .. How was your teley yesterday :) [08:17] kim0, great, it was good fun :). Happy to see lots of participation, and the feedback was good [08:25] good morning! [08:27] dholbach: hey there .. How's the snow going :) [08:27] hey kim0 [08:27] kim0, it's still there, but it stopped snowing yesterday evening [08:27] cool [08:28] and it's still cold, even with the deicing spray I couldn't get my bicycle lock opened [08:28] so I had to walk again [08:28] oh! [08:34] dholbach, morning!, so no ice skating to work either? [08:36] dpm, I guess I'll see how thick the ice is Monday next week - I'll give it another weekend ;-) [08:36] dpm, I didn't see the rest of your show - how did it go? seemed like you had a bunch of people there [08:37] dholbach, it went very well, I was really pleased to see lots of participation. I was telling kim0 earlier, it was good fun! [08:38] excellent :) [08:42] aloha [08:43] hola czajkowski [08:43] whoo tis Friday :) [09:03] hey czajkowski [09:06] dpm: ello there [09:09] kim0, do you have an idea what's going wrong if "channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768" is the last thing I get when issuing scp on a machine? (it just sits there for ages doing nothing) [09:09] hmm [09:10] I think rwin 0 means the advertised tcp receive window from the server is 0 which means the machine is too busy to process any further packets ... so it tells clients to stop sending any data [09:10] dholbach: can you check if the server is healthy [09:10] really really weird [09:11] kim0, yes, it's the second machine I'm sitting in front :) [09:11] dholbach: any logs on server side [09:12] dholbach: does telnet server 22 work [09:12] ...session opened for user daniel by (uid=0) [09:13] telnet seems to work: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.6p1 Debian-2ubuntu1 [09:15] dholbach: can u ssh into some other box .. chinstrap maybe [09:15] yes [09:16] that works fine [09:16] I mean, I could just use a usb stick but still it's a bit weird :) [09:16] hehe [09:17] dholbach: well yeah .. not sure what's going there [09:17] thanks a lot anyway :) [09:19] mm .. server might be out of file descriptors [09:19] might wanna try rebooting it [09:19] I restarted it 15 minutes ago :) [09:20] ew [09:20] you must be using natty :) [09:20] I am :) [09:21] maybe I should restart the client :) [09:21] could be as well [09:21] brb [09:25] kim0, it worked [09:25] ah cool :) [09:25] WEIRD [09:25] yeah! [09:26] I hate it when restarting something resolves it [09:26] I hate it when the MSWindows approach works :) [09:26] haha [09:26] * dholbach hugs kim0 [09:26] hehe [09:51] whooo I love my job and new boss he just rang to say they are shutting the office down and work from home [09:51] :D [09:53] hola randa [09:56] morning all [09:57] hello everyone :) [10:34] kim0, I think here's something funny with the wifi - seems like over ethernet I don't have these problems - weird weird weird, I'll ask one of the other guys later on - maybe I'm not the first to complain :) [10:36] dholbach: you on battery or AC? [10:36] AC [10:37] popey, you read the part of the conversation about stalled scp transfers? :) [10:37] no [10:37] that's what I was referring to :) [10:37] * dholbach hugs popey [10:37] oookay [10:41] dholbach: do you have a broadcom card [10:41] no, intelsomething [10:41] there was some driver bug [10:42] well no idea then [10:42] i still think its power related :) [10:43] why should the scp connection initiate, then stall? :) [10:44] dholbach: does "sudo iwconfig power off" make any difference? [10:44] to disable power management on the wifi [10:45] SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported. [10:45] iiiinteresting [10:46] Has anyone here got an Intuos4 working under 10.10? [10:47] (I was told to ask here...) [10:47] * popey points domjohnson at doctormo [10:47] (he may be asleep) [10:47] Ok :) [10:47] Thanks [11:07] dpm, the leader of the basque translations team seems to do an internship in Berlin - he/she just asked me about bug jams of the berlin team :) [13:41] * dholbach hugs dpm [13:42] * dpm hugs dholbach :) [14:13] hey dpm [14:13] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/1648648635/getting-patch-contribution-back-into-shape#comment-106284827 [14:14] heya jcastro, on it [14:14] <3 [14:16] although that might have been a bit precipitated, I need to think of a good answer first :) Just a minute - btw, I haven't forgotten on checking the unity.u.c translation links, I'll get onto that in a minute [14:17] I need to get the announcement on opening Natty translations out first, just finishing off the draft [14:34] doctormo, thanks a lot for your work on this! [14:36] dholbach: Happy with the results? [14:36] http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/guide/introduction-to-ubuntu-development.html [14:38] dholbach's packaging guide? [14:39] I think I still have mine, it needs more editing, much shame. [14:39] doctormo, no, it's not going to stay there [14:39] I just wanted to put it up somewhere [14:41] Ah cool, nice work on the text, we should do that editing session we were talking about at UDS. [14:42] I hope that we can emulate that somehow with loads of merge proposals and getting the content out there so people can give us feedback [14:43] dholbach: The manual team did well I think by having organised, weekly reading sessions with quick turn arounds. [14:43] I'm not sure we could enthuse a lot of people to read devel docs any other way. [14:43] hello doctormo o/ [14:43] nice, that sounds great [14:43] hey duanedesign [14:49] I can't get this new black eyed peas song out of my head [14:51] jcastro, which one? [14:52] boom boom pow? [14:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwQZQygg3Lk [14:52] come on let's go! [14:53] JFo: don't put it on, you'll just get addicted [14:54] heh [14:54] too late :-/ [14:54] dirty bit! [14:54] already have it and am addicted [14:54] :) [14:55] dirty bit! [14:56] I'm tellin you!... [14:59] dang, now I'll be singing that all day [14:59] * JFo preempts with some DJ Chuckie [15:01] JFo: that's rubbish, I got caught out by DJ Tripp's Dynamite Pressure. That's awesome. [15:02] * dholbach discovered the term "Electro Swing" yesterday - now I know what they play near the place where I live all the time :) [15:04] dholbach, :) [15:04] a bit crazy how people get mad about new music that has this "old" touch to it, but it's fun [15:05] dholbach: That's explainable, especially since a lot of the modern music scene has been about everything being new and fresh and little has been done with remixing and rerecording different styles (although that seems to be changing) [15:11] Natty is now open for translation! Please anyone feel free to retweet: http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntul10n/status/10710720010256384 [15:11] (it's on identi.ca as well, but it seems that the update from gwibber hasn't reached their servers?) [15:16] dpm, yeeeeehaw! [15:18] :-) [16:10] <-downloading the new dholbach hotness [16:11] JFo, thanks for the flowers :) [16:11] heh [16:14] I love html5 [16:15] its playing the new dholbach hawtness ;) [16:15] you're right, dholbach is the hawtness! [16:15] hehe [16:16] jono, ^ there is something seriously going wrong in this community [16:16] jono, I think we need some sort of Council to fix this [16:16] it's love I tell ya [16:16] Totally [16:16] the Council of Love [16:16] no no no no dholbach [16:16] I like it [16:16] what we need is some new governance [16:17] * nisshh laughs [16:17] jcastro: Governing love? [16:17] Love Governance? [16:17] :) [16:17] * nigelb ^5 JFo [16:17] Love Parliament? [16:17] :) [16:18] JFo, the senate of love? [16:18] Circle of Love! [16:18] nisshh, nice one :) [16:18] :) [16:18] tribal council of love? [16:18] JFo, i didnt know we were a tribe.... [16:19] Ubuntu tribe [16:19] :) [16:19] We aer a tribe [16:19] hehe [16:19] Haven't you read Carla Shroder yet? [16:20] nigelb, im 19, chances are i havent read anything that sounds posh like that :) [16:20] lol [16:20] She talks about the love in Ubuntu community in some article [16:21] * JFo spreads the love [16:21] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring-stats/ - we're below 40 [16:21] holy cow :) [16:21] Wow [16:22] nice [16:22] nigelb, see why we need to get the reviewers to add new stuff? :) [16:22] dholbach: I noticed [16:22] dholbach, lol [16:22] I wish I wasn't on bandnarrow [16:22] Can't build packages [16:23] nigelb? [16:23] dholbach: I've been trying to build a package with patches that jcastro pointed me to [16:23] Not much bandwidth at home [16:24] My parents have a 1Gb upper limit on total bandwidth [16:24] (I finished 600MB on day 1 of vacation :p) [16:24] ok, I see [16:24] I wonder if I can push this onto a ppa [16:24] nigelb: lol [16:24] but I wasn't expecting you to single-handedly move all those bugs with patches over :) [16:25] no, but setting an example wouldn't hurt and blogging about it :D [16:25] kim0: :D [16:25] jono: where's the graphic for branch, create, push rock? [16:25] right [16:25] hehe [16:25] nigelb: rock on [16:25] jcastro, on my flickr feed [16:26] one sec [16:26] jcastro, http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonobacon/5079758778/sizes/o/ [16:26] jono, introduction to Ubuntu draft with doctormo diagram goodness: http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/guide/introduction-to-ubuntu-development.html :) [16:27] it's the standard sphinx layout, but I'm sure we can beautify that at some later stage [16:27] dholbach, wow, that looks sweet! [16:27] doctormo, great work! [16:27] dpm makes good looking buttons :) [16:27] I'm just getting it user-tested [16:28] kim0, thanks, feel free to steal them if you like them :) I still need to put the SVG somewhere public [16:29] dholbach: love the mix mp3 :D [16:29] jcastro, dholbach, dpm, kim0 you are all rocking this release :) [16:29] oooh, sphinx ftw [16:29] nigelb, thanks for the flowers :) [16:29] \o/ [16:29] and yeah.. jono: thanks for the flowers too :) [16:30] dholbach, here's some more: great work, that looks awesome! [16:31] doctormo, good work on the graphics too! [16:32] dpm, the best thing about it is, look how easy it is: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach/%2Bjunk/ubuntu-packaging-guide/annotate/head%3A/introduction-to-ubuntu-development.rst :) [16:32] AlanBell: wow, looks like @theashes is actually watching cricket! [16:32] Wow wow, just wow [16:33] dholbach, no way! Really? [16:33] dholbach, no worries, thanks for the hard work :) [16:33] AlanBell: and she has 12K followers now O_O [16:33] dpm, and running "make html" afterwards [16:33] wow [16:33] dpm, same for getting pdf files: make latexpdf [16:33] nice [16:34] dpm, now we just need to get it all translated (which works, but just in the weird way I described to you) [16:34] dholbach, yeah. I didn't subscribe to the upstream bug. Has there been any progress there? [16:34] wow, those graphs are sweet [16:35] not yet, there's been a few commits but AFAICS they all were unrelated [16:36] I'll ask next week if I can be of any help there (I probably won't be of much help, the code is python, but it feels a bit outside my league :)) [16:36] Isn't sphinx a pocoo project? [16:36] it is [16:37] Gosh, 3rd pocoo project I'm running into this week ;) [16:37] ok my friends - I'm going to call it a day [16:37] have a great weekend everyone [16:37] g'nite dholbach [16:37] * dholbach hugs you all [16:42] jono: um, its 11.10 that's open for translations, not 11.04 [16:42] * nigelb changes jono's name to robbie (he always got it wrong :p) [16:42] bollocks [16:43] haha [16:43] :D [16:44] did jono just announce the Offensive Octopus was open for translations? [16:44] the obliviated oliphaunt? [16:44] nigelb, hang on 11.04 is open [16:44] not 11.10 [16:45] heh [16:45] you guys crack me up [16:45] I am going nuts [16:45] :-) [16:45] yeah, 11.04 is the natty narwhal [16:45] nigelb, what are you talking about? [16:46] jono: lol, you're awake ;) [16:46] kim0, great work on the Cloud portal and the introductory screencast [16:46] * jono is confused [16:46] nigelb is confused [16:46] * JFo is LMAO [16:46] * nigelb was originally confused [16:46] and managed to get jono confused [16:46] which is a very significant achievement [16:47] nigelb, hah, getting me confused is simple [16:47] happens all the time :) [16:47] * JFo points jono at something shiny [16:48] heh [16:48] welp. that's lunch [16:48] god [16:49] has paultag always been good at writing interesting blogs, or am i just noticing it now ;) [16:49] using the wiki is after using Ask Ubuntu is like a punch in the head [16:49] paultag: the tumblr post was neat! :) [16:49] apparently someone in IS has been asked to test the upgrade to moin 1.9 on a VM [16:50] so xapian can be turned on, and the wiki will suck less [16:51] dpm: thanks man :) [16:51] jcastro: hey, so nhandler seems to have trouble finding a mail server.. know anyone else who can host that? [16:51] vish: relay throught your existing mail client? [16:51] er, smtp gateway I mean? [16:52] yup.. [16:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallUSBKey [16:54] ok! [16:54] new rule, no more howtos in blogs! :) [16:55] heh [16:55] whaaa!! "As much as I dislike Unity,.." from http://blog.pault.ag/post/2082819050 [16:56] You probably haven't read his previous posts about unity [16:56] Or his ravings here about how much it sucks [16:56] we should force unity on flux ;p [16:57] nigelb: he's from Ohio, give him a break [16:57] lol, don't give him ideas. He might do it before tomorrow morning :p [16:57] the fact that he can speak at all is a rarity where he comes from [16:57] lol [17:13] jono: when you get a chance can you update your blog to mention "apt-get upgrade" and not dist-upgrade, during Natty that will probably break the person's key at some point [17:16] jcastro, will do [17:58] vish, :) [17:58] vish, thanks :) [17:59] vish, If you force Unity on Flux, I'm about to get all up in someone's biznas [17:59] ;) [18:00] BRB, changing my strings [18:07] vish: high 5 on the papercuts mention on omg [18:07] vish: I am going to blog the bitesize bugs in a few hours [18:11] hmmm, is it me or does the new planet theme kind of feel too ...... sanitized for planet. [18:11] * vish ^5 jcastro [18:11] doesn't feel as homey or as laid back as it should I think [18:11] ooh, bitesize!! [18:11] a bit too formal [18:12] jcastro: do you want them in papercuts? [18:17] vish: I think every papercut can be bitesize, but not the other way around [18:17] so sure, tag em up [18:18] vish: just add the tag to anything in unity you feel is bitesizeable [18:18] jcastro, ok, I've replied to the comment on your blog re: patch pilot and translations. And here's the reviewed list of links for translations on http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/539492/ [18:18] jcastro: yea, was just wondering since you and sense were discussing it and i dint catch the end of the discussion.. [18:18] dpm: thanks man! I'll update it now, and have a good week off! [18:18] jcastro, thanks, I most certainly will :) [18:25] jcastro: I agree, the hackergotchis should be bigger to give it more personality [18:26] yea, cant really appreciate doctormo drinking tea :( [18:26] you can have personality without animated gifs [18:26] nah, cant see the cup.. too small ;p [18:27] jcastro: agree, but my comment still stands ;) [18:29] jcastro: btw, your avatar on askubuntu looks better when viewed small.. than on your profile page ;p [18:30] heh [18:35] oddly when its small, it seems like you're holding one of those classic old cameras [18:37] but really I AM ROCKING OUT [19:08] vish: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16085/what-do-i-need-to-know-in-order-to-help-with-bug-papercut-fixing [19:09] jcastro: huh, i guess he wants a listing of programming languages.. :) [19:10] vish: I think a link to the getting started pages or whatever would be what he wants [19:11] and something like "you need to know how to code" [19:11] hahah [19:11] ;) [20:11] nice to see the photos of the team on the team loco dir page http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie [20:13] very cool [20:13] how does that work? [20:15] the tags [20:16] there are flicker and pixie ones set up for global events [20:16] so ubuntu hour and global jams are ones that get used [20:16] and appear on each teams pages if they have accounts set up [20:16] :D [20:20] czajkowski: thats neat! just a few mins ago, someone from ireland lug came to -artwork and requested a review for a new logo :) http://www.foopics.com/show/0ed294a90e6e25e97f813b91b7a57b5e [20:21] aye seen it nice [20:21] we do have a cool small team [20:21] miss them :( [20:21] which also reminds me if we can become an active loco others can [20:22] we're spread out and a lot only happens in one area but we do try, mixing up this xmas by teaming up with other user groups having a geeky pub quiz [20:25] hmm, so what tags do we need to use to get them to show up for our team? the lp name of the team? [20:26] jcastro: the unity menu icon is work, somewhat, outstanding [20:29] pleia2: for the UH http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/17/detail/ [20:29] explains it there [20:29] for the global jam http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/567/detail/ [20:29] thank you :) [20:30] np [20:30] I tweet that every so often to help remind folks [20:30] hmm, so my flickr image that I tagged with #ubuntuhour shows up [20:30] how do I get it to show up on the team page? [20:31] had a really cool afternoon yesterday in canonical offices doing some looking at Ubuntu.com site with Alejandra [20:31] pleia2: team ac [20:31] so pics will show up globally on those pages [20:32] but for a team page it needs a team ac set up, which you can edit the team page and enter [20:32] or add a person ac who will add the pics [20:32] ah, I see [20:32] thanks :) [20:32] np [20:33] * czajkowski hugs pleia2 [20:33] * pleia2 hugs [20:45] jono: I need a retweet in about 30 seconds. [20:48] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/2084859426/getting-started-working-on-unity [20:50] jcastro, will do [20:52] tweeted [20:52] now facebooking [20:53] jcastro: nice blog post [20:53]