| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| * TheMuso finally works out that the unity panel is drawn by unity/nux, and the panel service only takes care of showing gtk elements when the correct region is clicked for an indicator/menu... | 05:30 | |
| RAOF | That seems slightly odd, but ok :) | 05:31 |
|---|---|---|
| TheMuso | RAOF: You're telling me. | 05:31 |
| RAOF | I guess that probably makes a11y that little bit more difficult. | 05:32 |
| TheMuso | Yeah, particularly when widget parents and children need to be considered. | 05:32 |
| TheMuso | Menus are app specific, but visuall exist outside the app. | 05:33 |
| TheMuso | visually exist | 05:33 |
| TheMuso | So does one include the menus in the application hierarchy, or the panel hierarchy? :) | 05:33 |
| TheMuso | I personally think menus should be a part of the application hierarchy, which is technically possible. The menus can be known to be a part of the app, so far as accessibility is concerned, yet visually exist outside the app window. | 05:34 |
| TheMuso | But there is still the issue of the indicators and what parent they belong to. | 05:35 |
| RAOF | I guess if you were only concerned with 100% blind a11y that would be the obvious answer. | 05:35 |
| TheMuso | THis is true. | 05:35 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:07 |
| cdbs | Good morning pitti | 06:08 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| pitti | kenvandine: please have a look at bug 627744; we mustn't fix stuff in SRUs and not fix it in the devel release | 07:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 627744 in tomboy (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "Tomboy note names are blank in the Application Indicator fallback menu (affects: 17) (dups: 2) (heat: 114)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627744 | 07:02 |
| hyperair | dobey: pigng | 07:35 |
| hyperair | *ping | 07:35 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:40 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 07:41 |
| didrocks | hey pitti :) | 07:42 |
| === njpatel is now known as njpatel_ | ||
| dpm | hi pitti, good morning!, just a FYI, I'm trying to find out what happened with the missing maverick langpack export with the LP guys now | 09:00 |
| pitti | dpm: thanks | 09:00 |
| pitti | and good morning! | 09:00 |
| dpm | :-) | 09:00 |
| dpm | pitti, I'll be away until Wed (long Bank Holiday in Spain \o/), so once we've figured it out, we might just want to delay the copy to -proposed and the call for testing for a week and wait for the normally scheduled export + langpack rather to generate a one-off export before | 09:02 |
| dpm | rather than | 09:02 |
| asac | mvo: can i disable update-manager to pop up without me asking for it? | 09:25 |
| asac | i want to keep it for dist-upgrades etc., but I dont want it to be used anymore | 09:26 |
| mvo | asac: you can use a gcofn key: /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch | 09:42 |
| mvo | asac: a lot of people complain about it | 09:42 |
| cdbs | Can someone kindly make an ubuntugtk3 branch of ~ubuntu-desktop/nautilus-sendto/ubuntu ? | 09:45 |
| cdbs | I have updated the package successfully to version 2.90.0 (which is latest upstream) | 09:45 |
| asac | mvo: it hangs all the time man ;) | 09:46 |
| asac | mvo: everytime i see the window its hanging!!!! | 09:46 |
| asac | ;) | 09:46 |
| asac | mvo: if you need any info for that let me know | 09:46 |
| asac | auto launch disabled. thanks mvo | 09:47 |
| mvo | asac: the update-manager window is hanging? on arm? | 09:49 |
| mvo | asac: hanging in what way? compiz making it gray? | 09:49 |
| asac | mvo: on my super old lenovo x61s | 09:54 |
| asac | mvo: yes ... not reacting ... grey and under unity i cannot close it even ... e.g. killall ftw | 09:54 |
| mvo | asac: no (maybe hidden) dialog or anything like this? mav or natty? | 09:54 |
| asac | mvo: i think it happens when i dont see the window and run apt-get update in the back ... but sometimes even without it if dont notice (guess when cron does apt-get update) | 09:54 |
| asac | mvo: i am maverick nowadays ;) | 09:55 |
| mvo | asac: if it happens next time, could you strace it? | 09:55 |
| asac | sure | 09:55 |
| mvo | asac: just to get a idea what is going on | 09:55 |
| asac | now its disabled though | 09:55 |
| asac | let me start it so its running | 09:55 |
| asac | ok its running ... will come back when it see it again ;) | 09:56 |
| mvo | thanks | 09:58 |
| cdbs | mvo: Could you make an ubuntugtk3 branch of lp:~ubuntu-desktop/nautilus-sendto/ubuntu ? Thanks! | 10:03 |
| pitti | mvo: do you plan to do an app-install-data upload for natty? | 10:19 |
| mvo | pitti: yes, the extraction is finished, I was reviewing it this morning, then pycompile crashed on me and distracted me | 10:24 |
| mvo | pitti: but a new version will be in today | 10:25 |
| pitti | ah, ok; just wondered for alpha-1 | 10:25 |
| * pitti hugs mvo | 10:25 | |
| mvo | yeah, I'm late | 10:25 |
| pitti | don't worry, no biggie | 10:25 |
| * mvo nods | 10:25 | |
| pitti | mvo: btw, the software-center startup speed spec has a WI "automatically run startup time test on reference hardware: TODO" | 10:26 |
| pitti | mvo: this might already have been done? | 10:26 |
| pitti | I thought I saw a chart somewhere | 10:26 |
| mvo | its "kind of" funny, the extractor was set to dapper (to generate some statistics), so it had to do a full extraction again | 10:26 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, I guess that takes a while -- it has to unpack the entire archive? | 10:26 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, its mostly done, just the "automate it" part is missing, i.e. setup cron and upload automatically | 10:26 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, exactly. it takes ~5h or so (last I checked) | 10:26 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 10:27 |
| pitti | thanks! | 10:27 |
| mvo | pitti: lots of room for improvement, especially *if* it could be interegrated with soyuz | 10:27 |
| mvo | speaking of wich, could we make the binarypkgmangler extract the changelogs during build and store them somewhere for e.g. rsync? | 10:28 |
| mvo | so that changelogs.ubuntu.com could just rsync them instead of doing a extraction dance on the resulting debs (once they hit the mirror)? | 10:28 |
| pitti | mvo: extraction and adding to the .changes is not a problem | 10:28 |
| pitti | it alraedy does that for _translations.tar.gz etc. | 10:29 |
| pitti | but it needs soyuz support | 10:29 |
| pitti | otherwise it'll just see the "changelog" entry and say "meh?" and probably fall over | 10:29 |
| mvo | ok, good to know. where are those files stored afterwards? | 10:29 |
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| pitti | mvo: in the librarian; you can get to them via the API | 10:29 |
| pitti | mvo: might be worth asking bigjools about this | 10:30 |
| pitti | perhaps we can "just do" this | 10:30 |
| mvo | ok, I think last I talked about this with him he was concerned about the amount of files | 10:30 |
| mvo | but I guess if we is not him there is a good chance it gets done ;) | 10:30 |
| mvo | its sounds not too compilicated | 10:30 |
| pitti | -EPARSE | 10:30 |
| pitti | mvo: no, if we can just add it to the .changes, it's easy to do; let me know when/if I should do that | 10:30 |
| mvo | ok, so its "just" soyuz support that is needed and API | 10:31 |
| mvo | to extract them afterwards | 10:31 |
| pitti | the API should be there already (mostly) | 10:31 |
| mvo | thanks pitti | 10:31 |
| mvo | cool | 10:31 |
| pitti | mvo: we had a similar case for the "static translations" | 10:31 |
| pitti | mvo: i. e. extracting translated gnome help files into a tarball, which langpack-o-matic then picks up from soyuz | 10:32 |
| pitti | istrorelease.getPackageUploads(created_since_date="XXXX-XX-XX", custom_type='raw-translations-static') | 10:32 |
| pitti | s/^/d/ | 10:32 |
| pitti | mvo: ^ the getPackageUploads() call will probably accept any kind of custom_type that you add to the .changes with dpkg-distaddfile | 10:33 |
| pitti | but I don't know what soyuz checks there; it had been quite picky in the past at least | 10:33 |
| pitti | mvo: so we could add a new type raw-app-data and bundle icon, .desktop, etc. in a new tarball | 10:34 |
| pitti | mvo: oh, changelogs, not app data | 10:34 |
| pitti | but same thing | 10:35 |
| mvo | yeah, same thing | 10:35 |
| pitti | mvo: we could probably bundle changelogs, copyright, *.desktop and /icons/* in a tarball | 10:35 |
| * mvo nods | 10:36 | |
| pitti | kenvandine: I'm a bit confused about the bzr for libdbusmenu; Vcs-Bzr: says https://code.launchpad.net/~dbusmenu-team/dbusmenu/ubuntu, but that seems to be an upstream PPA branch and is more recent than natty; are we using lp:ubuntu/libdbusmenu for the actual Ubuntu packagee? | 11:18 |
| pitti | kenvandine: at least it seems that seb128 committed into this | 11:18 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| seb128 | hey | 12:41 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 12:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, lut | 12:41 |
| seb128 | how are things going today? | 12:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: come on, your day is off! :) | 12:41 |
| didrocks | quit well actually, not very busy/"pingy" for me :) | 12:42 |
| * Nafallo turns sebs day back on | 12:42 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, hey, I just had a quick glance on emails and irc logs | 12:42 |
| seb128 | noticed that pitti seems to be on an upload mania against gir-repository for some reason | 12:42 |
| didrocks | hehe, right :) | 12:42 |
| pitti | hey seb128, I thought you were on holidays? :-) | 12:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, is there any reason to hurry and do upload for those? | 12:43 |
| seb128 | like gnome-games was pending work on the new version | 12:43 |
| Nafallo | seb128: yeah. he thought you were on holidays ;-) | 12:43 |
| pitti | seb128: I was on an upload mania for dropping changelogs anyway, and I want to get rid of that package | 12:43 |
| seb128 | dx things are pending on updates as well | 12:43 |
| pitti | seb128: I didn't upload dbusmenu or any DX stuff | 12:43 |
| seb128 | well I saw in the IRC log you were asking about it :p | 12:43 |
| pitti | seb128: right, but I just added the bug ref to bzr | 12:44 |
| seb128 | ok | 12:44 |
| pitti | seb128: I mostly dealt with stuff nobody else wanted to anyway, like gupnp-av | 12:44 |
| seb128 | I don't think it's an issue to wait a few extra days for uploads | 12:44 |
| seb128 | like gnome-games | 12:44 |
| pitti | seb128: right, gnome-games was perhaps not necessary | 12:44 |
| seb128 | but if you want to do those... | 12:44 |
| seb128 | I just dislike having to download updates daily on my not so fast internet for small reasons ;-) | 12:45 |
| seb128 | we really need apt to handle binaries deltas ;-) | 12:45 |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, I'm on holiday on Monday | 12:46 |
| pitti | travelling back to Dresden | 12:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, enjoy your 3 days we then :-) | 12:46 |
| pitti | I will! | 12:46 |
| seb128 | we -> WE | 12:46 |
| pitti | Need to get 13.3 MB of archives. | 12:47 |
| pitti | After this operation, 9849 kB disk space will be freed. | 12:47 |
| pitti | now, that's not bad for a morning's work :) | 12:47 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:48 |
| pitti | this was again for packages which will mostly not be resynced during natty anyway | 12:48 |
| seb128 | I often get some of those because local builds are replacing by ones which have translations etc stripped | 12:48 |
| seb128 | replaced | 12:48 |
| seb128 | I wondering a few times why it was freeing space when there was no real changes before figured that was the mangler work ;-) | 12:49 |
| pitti | I want to do a few rebuilds every week, to avoid a huge hit | 12:49 |
| pitti | but I still need to keep going with those | 12:50 |
| seb128 | is there many sources on the CD not rebuilt yet? | 12:50 |
| pitti | quite a few; look at /usr/share/doc/*/change* | 12:50 |
| pitti | I am doing an ls -lSr and work from the biggest ones | 12:51 |
| seb128 | indeed | 12:51 |
| pitti | which is of course mostly OO.o now | 12:51 |
| pitti | rebuilding OO.o would win us > 8 MB compressed | 12:51 |
| pitti | but I don't want to touch it really | 12:51 |
| pitti | (7 MB for dropping the NBS libicu42, 1.5 MB for changelogs) | 12:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh come on, you know you want to take over this one ;-) | 12:52 |
| Nafallo | lol. at least I'm not the only troll in this channel :-P | 12:52 |
| seb128 | ok, I was just passing by, going back to my holiday day | 13:16 |
| seb128 | have a nice we everybody | 13:16 |
| seb128 | see you next week :-) | 13:16 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| dpm | hi pitti, it's langpack questions day today! :) I was wondering if you had had the chance to activate the natty langpack builds in langpack-o-matic? | 13:20 |
| pitti | dpm: ah, if we have a full export, I can build them | 13:22 |
| pitti | seems we do | 13:23 |
| pitti | dpm: sure, I'll start it | 13:23 |
| dpm | pitti, yeah -> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+language-packs - thanks! | 13:24 |
| pitti | dpm: building now; I want to test the first ones locally before I actually upload them | 13:27 |
| dpm | pitti, ok. Thanks. Notice that the first ones will not contain FF translations. chrisccoulson, jtv and I have been in touch to see how we can get them into LP (the upstream xpi langpack packaging has changed a bit) | 13:28 |
| pitti | dpm: ah, ok; that was my main concern, since a mismatch tends to break Firefox completely | 13:29 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - it shouldn't break it hopefully, as the current language packs should just fail the compatibility check | 13:29 |
| dpm | pitti, ah, actually: the export might contain the old (3.6) ones | 13:29 |
| chrisccoulson | although, some users will disable the compatibility check to get extensions to work | 13:30 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: right; I mean once they are marked compatible | 13:30 |
| chrisccoulson | they shouldn't get marked compatible yet until we've imported the new template in to LP | 13:30 |
| chrisccoulson | for users who disable the compatibility check, the current language packs will probably have already destroyed their firefox install ;) | 13:31 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - we just need to check that the new language packs have the current maxVersion in their install.rdf files | 13:32 |
| dpm | chrisccoulson, pitti, asac, after having had a call with Chris and jtv, I renamed the natty template from firefox-3.6 to firefox. I also changed the domain name in Launchpad from 'firefox-3.6' to 'firefox'. I'm not sure if this makes a difference in the version put in the language packs (i.e. if po2xpi uses that info), but it's something I thought I should mention just in case | 13:46 |
| dpm | (the translation domain name part) | 13:47 |
| pitti | dpm: I don't know, I'ma fraid | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | dpm - i think po2xpi gets the install.rdf from the template uploaded from the firefox source package | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i might be wrong though | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | and there's no new template after i disabled that in the firefox source package | 13:48 |
| dpm | pitti, no worries, just mentioning as a heds up, and in case any of you knew | 13:48 |
| dpm | ok | 13:49 |
| === mterry_ is now known as mterry | ||
| pitti | hey mterry | 13:53 |
| nessita | hi all! | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | pitti, i'll get that tomboy patch fixed and uploaded asap | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | guess it is a good reason to upload to devel first :) | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | looks like the fix was reverted in 1.5.2 when it was synced from debian | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | while the fix was still in -proposed | 13:55 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ah, thanks; I had hoped it was in 1.5.2 | 13:55 |
| pitti | kenvandine: good morning! | 13:55 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| kenvandine | :) | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | good afternoon :) | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | ugh... of course it FTBFS now... /me dives in | 13:57 |
| didrocks | hey mterry, nessita, kenvandine :) | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | he didrocks | 13:58 |
| nessita | didrocks: hey there, I don't want to be a PITA (though I might already be :-P), but I was wondering about the u1cp package... since is still on the NEW queue. Do I need to chase seb instead? can I ask some other package admin? | 13:59 |
| didrocks | nessita: it's in archive admin hands, not mine :) | 14:02 |
| didrocks | nessita: so seb or pitti maybe ;) | 14:02 |
| nessita | ah! pitti! :-D | 14:02 |
| pitti | hey nessita | 14:02 |
| pitti | we have daily archive admins.. | 14:02 |
| pitti | can you please poke those instead? :-) | 14:03 |
| pitti | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Archive%20days | 14:03 |
| pitti | jdstrand today | 14:03 |
| nessita | pitti: bien sur! | 14:03 |
| mterry | hi pitti and didrocks. :) | 14:04 |
| didrocks | nessita speaks in french to pitti… am I missing something or it's not just me to be terribly confused? :) | 14:06 |
| pitti | didrocks: ah, it's French? | 14:07 |
| pitti | I had expected it to be Spanish :) | 14:07 |
| didrocks | pitti: it's "bien sûr", but I doubt that to be Spanish :) | 14:08 |
| nessita | didrocks: in spanish, literally, means "good south". But I meant the french phrase, "of course" | 14:08 |
| nessita | didrocks: I like french. I speak 2 or 3 words in french a day | 14:09 |
| nessita | mostly "bien sur", "ca va", "je vous re merci" | 14:09 |
| didrocks | :) | 14:12 |
| didrocks | (really, I'm sure one day we will have french as the official #ubuntu-desktop language :)) | 14:13 |
| bcurtiswx_ | anyone using the desktop gtk3 PPA, do you have nautilus-sendto installed? | 14:19 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, are you using the desktop gtk3 ppa ? | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | nope | 14:21 |
| bcurtiswx_ | k thx | 14:21 |
| bcurtiswx_ | is seb128 off today? | 14:22 |
| cyphermox | hellp | 14:22 |
| cyphermox | *hello | 14:23 |
| cyphermox | bcurtiswx, yes, he is | 14:23 |
| bcurtiswx_ | cyphermox, thx | 14:23 |
| cyphermox | bcurtiswx, can I help you out with something ? | 14:23 |
| bcurtiswx_ | empathy 2.91.3 depends on nautilus-sendto and the desktop PPA deoesn't have it for 2.91.x so i can't install nautilus-sendto without complete breakage | 14:24 |
| bcurtiswx_ | i was hoping i could get someone to get that into the PPA | 14:25 |
| cyphermox | bcurtiswx, I can certainly prepare the package, though I'll need help to upload it to the ppa :) | 14:25 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, would you be able to put nautilus-sendto in the gtk3 PPA ? | 14:26 |
| didrocks | hum, does anyone knows why setting in the commit log "LP: #XXXX" doesn't anymore add "--fixes lp:XXXX"? | 14:26 |
| cyphermox | didrocks, even with (LP: #xxxx) ? | 14:26 |
| cyphermox | it worked for me yesterday | 14:26 |
| pitti | didrocks: hm, last time I checked it worked | 14:26 |
| pitti | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/gupnp-av/natty/revision/13 | 14:27 |
| pitti | worked for me a couple of hours ago | 14:27 |
| pitti | plain "debcommit" | 14:27 |
| didrocks | waow, I even tried --fixes lp:XXXX and it doesn't work :/ | 14:28 |
| didrocks | something is broken locally then | 14:28 |
| didrocks | bzr launchpad-login works… | 14:28 |
| didrocks | bzr log shows it, isn't it? | 14:30 |
| pitti | didrocks: yes, bzr log mentions it | 14:30 |
| didrocks | hum, I moved .bazaar as well… | 14:30 |
| bcurtiswx_ | hmm seems there's an ubuntugtk3 nautilus-sendto already but a apt-cache policy nautilus-sendto doesn't show it | 14:30 |
| bcurtiswx_ | the build failed on my machine due to a standards version mismatch.. where's that stored? | 14:31 |
| didrocks | james_w: hey, do you have any idea what can be the cause? (seems I'm uptodate bzr-wise) ^^ | 14:32 |
| cyphermox | bcurtiswx, debian/control. | 14:32 |
| bcurtiswx_ | cyphermox, is there a specific thing i have to do to upgrade from 3.8.4 to 3.9.1 other than editing the file... | 14:33 |
| cyphermox | bcurtiswx, I don't recall off the top of my head, sorry ;) usually what you can do is try to build and fix lintian warnings as they come up | 14:34 |
| bcurtiswx_ | didrocks, do you know ^^ ? | 14:36 |
| bcurtiswx_ | the standards version | 14:36 |
| didrocks | bcurtiswx_: no, just check if lintian is complaining about something after building | 14:37 |
| bcurtiswx_ | didrocks, W: nautilus-sendto source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.8.4 (current is 3.9.1) thats all (even after editing the file) :-\ | 14:37 |
| cyphermox | bcurtiswx, that usually doesn't fail the build though | 14:38 |
| didrocks | bcurtiswx_: is there a debian/control and debian/control.in ? | 14:38 |
| cyphermox | ohh | 14:38 |
| bcurtiswx_ | didrocks, yes.. edited as well. thx :D | 14:38 |
| didrocks | yw :) | 14:38 |
| james_w | didrocks, bonjour, --fixes lp:something doesn't work? | 14:42 |
| bcurtiswx_ | hmm, rodrigo_ (who's not here) has a changelog already for nautilus-sendto, but has it as unreleased. anyone know why ? | 14:42 |
| bcurtiswx_ | in the desktop GTK3 PAP | 14:42 |
| bcurtiswx_ | PPA* | 14:42 |
| didrocks | james_w: no, it doesn't here, I tried to remove ~/.bazaar as well without any success | 14:46 |
| james_w | didrocks, no result, or an error? | 14:46 |
| didrocks | james_w: no result | 14:46 |
| james_w | didrocks, hmm, bzr --version, and "bzr plugins -v | grep launchpad"? | 14:47 |
| didrocks | james_w: http://paste.ubuntu.com/539424/ | 14:48 |
| james_w | didrocks, no idea, sorry, I suggest you file a bug | 14:49 |
| didrocks | james_w: ok, no worry, I will, thanks :) | 14:49 |
| bcurtiswx_ | would someone be able to add https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/natty/nautilus-sendto/nautilus-sendto-2.90.0/+merge/42630 to the GTK3 PPA ? | 15:05 |
| bcurtiswx_ | hmm, wait | 15:06 |
| bcurtiswx_ | nautilus conflicts with nautilus-sendto :-\ how? | 15:06 |
| fagan | the nm-applet is taking up 500MB of ram at the moment :-/ | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | fagan, I know :/ | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | working on it still | 15:16 |
| fagan | yeah I have 4 GB in this computer though so its ok :) | 15:17 |
| cyphermox | hehe | 15:20 |
| cyphermox | bcurtiswx, btw, major changes in nautilus 2.91.1: * Move the nautilus-sendto extension module in-tree | 15:20 |
| bcurtiswx_ | idk what in-tree means :-\ | 15:21 |
| cyphermox | bcurtiswx, that's in nautilus' NEWS file, and why it now conflicts | 15:21 |
| cyphermox | means it was integrated into nautilus proper | 15:21 |
| cyphermox | you should instead update empathy to not require nautilus-sendto, but perhaps nautilus >= 2.91.1 | 15:21 |
| bcurtiswx_ | cassidy, ^^ | 15:22 |
| cassidy | bcurtiswx_, can you file a bug please ? | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | fagan, I was able to reduce the number of X errors nm-applet triggers to just 2 batches, but I'm not sure it will fix the leaks | 15:24 |
| bcurtiswx_ | cassidy, sure. in the mean time i'll changelog a bump on the depends to 2.91.1 for 2.91.3 and see if it build OK | 15:24 |
| bcurtiswx_ | to nautilus 2.91.1 * | 15:24 |
| bcurtiswx_ | cassidy, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636377 | 15:27 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 636377 in General "Bump nautilus dep to >2.91.1 as -sendto is now in-tree" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 15:28 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I just spotted the nspluginwrapper karmic SRU you uploaded in September, for bug 410407 | 15:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 410407 in nspluginwrapper (Fedora) (and 17 other projects) "Adobe Flash Player does not respond to mouse clicks [READ DESCRIPTION] (affects: 1023) (dups: 58) (heat: 4366)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410407 | 15:37 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: it was declined for Karmic; is that upload still actually relevant | 15:38 |
| pitti | ? | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, i'd forgotten about that | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, the upload is relevant for karmic too | 15:38 |
| pitti | ok | 15:38 |
| didrocks | asac: what's the trick with ubuntu-mir? :p | 16:01 |
| didrocks | seems I'm an innocent victim :) | 16:02 |
| pitti | dpm: natty langpacks working fine for me, uploading now | 16:07 |
| dpm | pitti, \o/ thanks | 16:08 |
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| pitti | dpm: the gnome ones will take quite a bit more time to build, FTR, due to the png compression | 16:25 |
| pitti | but at the same time they are quite a bit smaller now :) | 16:25 |
| dpm | ok, sounds good! | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | pitti, can you look at the MIR for ubuntu-geoip? bug 676510 | 16:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 676510 in ubuntu-geoip (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ubuntu-geoip (affects: 1) (heat: 255)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676510 | 16:42 |
| kenvandine | i want to upload indicator-datetime today which depends on it | 16:43 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I'm in meeting now; and not in ~ubuntu-mir any more :) | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | oh... didn't know that | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | any suggestions who to poke about it? | 16:44 |
| asac | didrocks: did doko add you? ;) | 16:44 |
| pitti | kenvandine: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir/+members :) | 16:45 |
| didrocks | asac: yeah, I was quite surprised! it's mean :) | 16:45 |
| pitti | oh, didrocks is a MIR reviewer now? | 16:45 |
| kenvandine | woot... didrocks can you look at ubuntu-geoip? | 16:45 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: hum, "no" :) | 16:46 |
| didrocks | well, not in the short time :) | 16:46 |
| asac | didrocks: drop in the hot and cold water approach ;) | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | added 3 hours ago... woot | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | oh, mterry is a MIR reviewer too | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | mterry, got a few minutes to look at ubuntu-geoip? | 16:47 |
| mterry | kenvandine, I can do it today, but I have a meeting shortly, so can't be right now | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | sure | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | today is good enough :) | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | anxious to get indicator-datetime off my plate :) | 16:48 |
| didrocks | heeee, and the banshee MIR? :) | 16:48 |
| didrocks | asac: don't go away like that :p | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | but i am still blocked on tedg getting me an actual tarball :) | 16:48 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Sorry getting distracted :( | 16:50 |
| kenvandine | yeah, i am getting distracted from appindicator too | 16:51 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 16:51 |
| asac | didrocks: you want to start your duties before monday? ;) | 16:51 |
| didrocks | asac: you mean, the banshee MIR is on my plate? now :) | 16:52 |
| asac | lol | 16:52 |
| didrocks | not a nice gift :p | 16:52 |
| didrocks | and I'm biased, I can't review it :p | 16:52 |
| asac | didrocks: right. so let me look | 16:53 |
| kenvandine | haha | 16:53 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 16:53 |
| didrocks | thanks asac | 16:53 |
| asac | didrocks: so ... monday 9am? | 16:58 |
| asac | i scheduled a talk on mumble there | 16:58 |
| asac | i have to run on another call now etc. | 16:58 |
| asac | and on weekend i want to stay off | 16:58 |
| didrocks | asac: sure, no worry :) | 16:58 |
| asac | sure so enjoy your MIR free time ;) | 16:59 |
| didrocks | asac: just send me an invite | 16:59 |
| didrocks | one week-end \o/ | 16:59 |
| didrocks | and then, the hell begins :) | 16:59 |
| asac | didrocks: i sent, did you receive? | 16:59 |
| * kenvandine -> lunch | 17:00 | |
| didrocks | asac: received, perfect, thanks! | 17:00 |
| mvo | mpt: thanks for s-c commit | 17:03 |
| mvo | pitti: when you have time after the meeting, could you quickly tell me why msttcorefonts was rejected? | 17:06 |
| pitti | mvo: I said so in the bug | 17:07 |
| pitti | mvo: it was the same version as the maverick update | 17:07 |
| mvo | pitti: meh, right. thanks for spotting this | 17:07 |
| pitti | mvo: well, LP did :) | 17:07 |
| mvo | thanks LP | 17:08 |
| mvo | pitti: I created a LP lib based script for the changelogs extraction now, if that works well, I don't think we need a custom upload format (at least for changelogs) | 17:09 |
| pitti | mvo: nice, you take the data from +changelog ? | 17:11 |
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| mvo | pitti: no, when I tried this for the kernel it oopsed | 17:15 |
| mvo | pitti: I use the sourceUriUrls() | 17:16 |
| pitti | good night everyone | 17:28 |
| pitti | I'll be on holiday on Monday | 17:29 |
| didrocks | see you pitti! | 18:15 |
| kenvandine | tedg, uhoh... doko uploaded indicator-application to natty to force a rebuild with python 2.7... and of course it doesn't build on natty | 18:16 |
| mterry | kenvandine, approved ubuntu-geoip | 18:17 |
| kenvandine | mterry, woot... thx! | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | ok tedg, now i am waiting on indicator-datetime | 18:18 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Did the python bindings fail? Uhg. | 18:19 |
| kenvandine | no... not that | 18:19 |
| tedg | kenvandine, I'm working on that tarball as we... speak? | 18:19 |
| kenvandine | the gir problem i hit yesterday | 18:19 |
| kenvandine | that problem wasn't related to making it build for gtk3 | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | it just doesn't build on natty | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | although i wouldn't be surprised if it fails building for python 2.7 too :) | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | The GObject name 'AppIndicator' isn't compatibile | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | with the configured identifier prefixes: | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | ['AppIndicator'] | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | The class would have no name. | 18:20 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Ah, okay. Hmph. | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | that's the build failure | 18:20 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Tell doko just to use Maverick -- it's WAY better ;) | 18:21 |
| kenvandine | still think that is because appindicator doesn't have a namespace? | 18:21 |
| kenvandine | haha | 18:21 |
| tedg | That's my guess... though I couldn't get my Natty test drive to work yesterday :( | 18:21 |
| kenvandine | so why doesn't appindicator have a namepsace? | 18:21 |
| kenvandine | or even a namespace | 18:21 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Well, what would it be? | 18:21 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 18:21 |
| tedg | kenvandine, It seems unfair to take the namespace "App" :) | 18:22 |
| kenvandine | hehe :) | 18:22 |
| kenvandine | appindicator ? | 18:22 |
| tedg | Then all the functions would have to be appindicator_indicator_foo() | 18:22 |
| kenvandine | yeah, so? | 18:22 |
| tedg | I don't like to type that much :) | 18:23 |
| kenvandine | your a C guy, you like lots of typing :) | 18:23 |
| tedg | See, we solve this by not having tons of namespaces :) | 18:23 |
| kenvandine | well the functions are named app_indicator_foo now | 18:23 |
| * kenvandine does a big sed on tedg's code | 18:23 | |
| kenvandine | ugh... api breakage | 18:24 |
| didrocks | ok, week-end time now! | 18:36 |
| didrocks | see you guys | 18:36 |
| hakermania | hello all, I have packaged my application for REVU, but I need to know how exactly the image of the package will be defined. I've heard about debian.screenshots.net but (of course) my package cannot be found in http://screenshots.debian.net/upload because REVU hasn't accepted it yet! What's the process I have to follow? | 19:09 |
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| tedg | kenvandine, FIRE IN THE HOLE! Merge request en route. | 19:52 |
| kenvandine | woot | 19:52 |
| czajkowski | kenvandine: you'll be happy to know Gwibber runs faster on unity than my regular desktop version :s | 20:51 |
| kenvandine | :) | 20:52 |
| czajkowski | kenvandine: it hates my column layout for some unknown reason | 20:54 |
| kenvandine | what about it? | 20:56 |
| czajkowski | much slower and crashes on scrolling, but doesnt under unity. :( | 20:57 |
| czajkowski | kenvandine: is this your sublte way of telling me to use unity ;) | 20:57 |
| * kenvandine sends subliminal messages over the pond | 20:58 | |
| czajkowski | icey snowed in pond! | 20:58 |
| czajkowski | heading to stuttgart on sunday and it's warmer there! | 20:59 |
| kenvandine | mterry, whoops... geoclue needs an mir too... ubuntu-geoclue needs it | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | mterry, mind reviewing that one? once i file the mir bug? | 21:19 |
| mterry | kenvandine, uh, I may not get to it today? but I can do it this weekend | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | ok, whenever | 21:20 |
| kenvandine | sorry i missed that before | 21:20 |
| kenvandine | been a while since i had looked at that | 21:20 |
| cyphermox | jasoncwarner, ping? | 21:31 |
| jasoncwarner | cyphermox: | 21:32 |
| jasoncwarner | hello | 21:32 |
| cyphermox | hey :) | 21:33 |
| jasoncwarner | afternoon! | 21:33 |
| devildante | any way to build empathy on natty? apt-get build-dep seems to miss a lot of deps | 21:34 |
| cyphermox | devildante, are you also using the rules from debian/rules to build it? | 21:40 |
| devildante | cyphermox: I'm trying to build it straight from git | 21:41 |
| cyphermox | devildante, you can check what configure complains about to find the missing deps? | 21:41 |
| devildante | Requested 'folks >= 0.3.2' but version of Folks is 0.1.17 | 21:42 |
| devildante | Requested 'folks-telepathy >= 0.3.2' but version of Folks Telepathy support library is 0.1.17 | 21:42 |
| devildante | No package 'gsettings-desktop-schemas' found | 21:42 |
| devildante | No package 'gtk+-3.0' found | 21:42 |
| devildante | No package 'libcanberra-gtk3' found | 21:42 |
| devildante | Requested 'libnotify >= 0.7.0' but version of libnotify is 0.5.0 | 21:42 |
| devildante | No package 'gcr-3' found | 21:42 |
| cyphermox | devildante, not so fast ;) | 21:42 |
| devildante | :p | 21:43 |
| * Tm_T hints of paste.ubuntu.com | 21:43 | |
| devildante | Tm_T: yeah, sorry for noise | 21:43 |
| cyphermox | devildante, some of those will already be available in the desktop team gnome-gtk3 builds, e.g. gtk+-3.0 and others. in fact, I think they're already uploaded too | 21:43 |
| devildante | cyphermox: you mean the gnome3-builds PPA? already tested on my native install and didn't work :( | 21:44 |
| devildante | about to try again on virtualized install though | 21:44 |
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| cyphermox | devildante, well, I don't think folks and folks-telepathy are up to date | 21:46 |
| devildante | :-/ | 21:46 |
| devildante | let's also build them, then :p | 21:47 |
| cyphermox | exactly ;) | 21:47 |
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| kenvandine | tedg, sent a merge proposal for which fixes the current build failures https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-application/gi-build-fixes/+merge/42697 | 22:17 |
| kenvandine | doesn't include the with-gtk=3 stuff yet | 22:17 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Cool | 22:18 |
| kenvandine | i'll get to that later... now i need to fix the package so it builds | 22:18 |
| tedg | kenvandine, I'll have to merge it at http://code.launchpad.net/libappindicator though :) | 22:18 |
| kenvandine | failing with the multiple python versions now | 22:18 |
| kenvandine | whatever floats your boat man :) | 22:18 |
| * kenvandine calls it a day... later folks! | 22:19 | |
| tedg | 'night kenvandine! | 22:22 |
| ebroder | I'm trying to hunt down a regression in...the X stack between Lucid and Maverick. I know that downgrading all of libdrm, libgl, the X server itself, and the Intel driver from Maverick's version to Lucid's fixes the issue I'm seeing, but...that's a lot of things with a lot of interdependencies to bisect across. Any tips? | 22:33 |
| fta | still no panel on startup with metacity :P | 22:46 |
| cyphermox | fta, classic desktop? | 23:06 |
| fta | cyphermox, yes. i have to manually start it | 23:10 |
| fta | cyphermox, but it messes up everything. apps launched from that panel appear on a random workspace | 23:11 |
| fta | started 2 or 3 days ago | 23:11 |
| cyphermox | heh, I can't remember if I had to kill gnome-panel again when I started with classic this morning | 23:11 |
| cyphermox | I'll look at it tonight on a live session and fix it if I can | 23:12 |
| fta | i'm currently with unity, but it breaks my workflow, so i'll quickly return to metacity | 23:13 |
| cyphermox | fta, breaks your workflow? | 23:14 |
| fta | cyphermox, can't do anything, my launchers are all gone, replaced by old launchers i haven't seen in years. no menu | 23:15 |
| fta | a 24" almost empty panel | 23:15 |
| cyphermox | ok | 23:15 |
| cyphermox | well we can at least figure out how to import the launchers you have... where? | 23:15 |
| fta | global menu unusable in follow focus mode | 23:15 |
| fta | etc.. | 23:15 |
| cyphermox | oh right, follow focus, yeah that's not too great :/ | 23:16 |
| fta | it seems to ignore my default apps too | 23:17 |
| cyphermox | fta, maybe as a first step, where are your launchers? in the panel? | 23:17 |
| fta | yes | 23:17 |
| cyphermox | ah, ok | 23:18 |
| fta | i see grey question marks icons in unity | 23:18 |
| cyphermox | oh | 23:18 |
| cyphermox | they're imported but not with the icons? | 23:18 |
| fta | seems so | 23:19 |
| cyphermox | ah right | 23:19 |
| cyphermox | icons were an issue as we tested a1, unity would crash in 20101201 because of it | 23:19 |
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