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| skaet_ | JFo, around? | 01:58 |
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| kaushal | hi | 06:52 |
| kaushal | I installed linux-image-server on 10.10 how do i make it default kernel ? | 06:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | kaushal: change the grub defaults. but i guess you would better ask in the generic support channel, as this one is meant for kernel development. | 07:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | kaushal: #ubuntu, or #ubuntu-{your language tag}, like #ubuntu-fr - for example. | 07:07 |
| kaushal | Thanks LetoThe2nd | 07:13 |
| apw | joshhunt, i think firmware is normally in there | 08:30 |
| apw | kaushal, normally the latest kernel installed is the default kernel | 08:36 |
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| kaushal | apw: ok | 08:37 |
| kaushal | apw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/539323/ | 08:39 |
| kaushal | apw: I have rebooted it too | 08:39 |
| apw | kaushal, i am confused, you only have one kernel installed according to that, so whatever you are running is the server kernel | 08:41 |
| apw | or more specifically 'the kernel for server use' | 08:41 |
| apw | which as you are running i386 is the generic-pae kernel | 08:42 |
| kaushal | apw: basically I am needing server kernel | 08:42 |
| apw | kaushal, needing in what sense? what is the kernel you have not doing for you | 08:42 |
| kaushal | it says --generic and not --server ? | 08:42 |
| kaushal | 2.6.24-28-server | 08:43 |
| kaushal | for example | 08:43 |
| apw | that kernel is still the kernel we recommend for i386 servers, hense you installed linux-image-server and you got the kernel we recommend for that use | 08:43 |
| kaushal | ok | 08:43 |
| apw | from lucid onwards that is no longer called -server, as it is also used for larger 'desktops' which were not supported | 08:44 |
| apw | there is actually not much difference in configuration from -generic to -server for i386 on older releases either | 08:44 |
| kaushal | apw: is there a way to know from /proc | 08:47 |
| kaushal | the kernel version | 08:47 |
| apw | cat /proc/version and /proc/version_signature | 08:48 |
| kaushal | apw: Thanks | 08:53 |
| smb | apw, Quick question on the pre-proposed stuff: are you looking at master-next only for the kernel or for lbm and meta as well? | 09:43 |
| apw | smb, only for kernel, noone has mentioned changing to master-next for anything else yet | 09:43 |
| apw | i don't care if we do change at all if thats less confusing | 09:43 |
| smb | apw, Ok, cool. Then I am good. I have no strong preference there. Just was wondering after having added something to a meta package | 09:44 |
| apw | no ... am assuming if there is a change somone will tell me | 09:44 |
| smb | Likely so | 09:45 |
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| lamont | Intel Server System SR1600UR <-- machine has no disks when hardy scans it... is there a driver that didn't come along for this box until lucid/maverick timeframe? | 12:40 |
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| apw | lamont, there have been some new drivers for sure, or newer firmware for same ... what does lspci say it has | 13:02 |
| lamont | apw: let me get back there | 13:04 |
| lamont | apw: any options you want to lspci? | 13:11 |
| apw | -nnvv to get the pci id's <- lamont | 13:12 |
| lamont | so here I sit in busybox from pxeboot with a 40kb file... suggestions on how to get it off the box? | 13:14 |
| apw | lamont, well i only want the pci-ids for the disk controller | 13:15 |
| apw | 00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA AHCI Controller [8086:27c1] (rev 02) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0]) | 13:15 |
| lamont | 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller | 13:15 |
| apw | lamont, like on mine here i have that, the bit in []'s is the bit i want | 13:15 |
| lamont | that sort of beast? | 13:15 |
| apw | that sounds like it yes | 13:15 |
| apw | with -nnvv you'll have a [xxxs:yyy] thingy | 13:15 |
| lamont | 00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller [8086:3a20] (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO]) | 13:15 |
| lamont | Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device [8086:34de] | 13:16 |
| lamont | I think that second line is rather a smoking gun | 13:16 |
| apw | that implies the kernel has no mapping for the system itself | 13:16 |
| apw | it doesn't know what sort of server it is | 13:16 |
| apw | which isn't supprising for hardy | 13:17 |
| lamont | to be fair, it's certified for 10.10 and later | 13:17 |
| lamont | well, 10.10 only atm | 13:17 |
| lamont | since 11.04 certification is kinda hard to claim at alpha1 | 13:17 |
| lamont | does it matter that it's NUMA | 13:18 |
| apw | shouldn't no | 13:18 |
| lamont | nm. hardy did just fine figuring out that it was numa and all that | 13:18 |
| lamont | it would be most kewl if I could get hardy's xen kernel working on these machines... two more ppas if we do | 13:19 |
| apw | from natty> drivers/ata/ata_piix.c: { 0x8086, 0x3a20, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, ich8_sat | 13:20 |
| apw | from hardy > | 13:20 |
| lamont | is it likely just a matter of adding the PCI ID? | 13:21 |
| apw | lamont, looking now | 13:22 |
| lamont | eventually, if it's simple, you know I'm going to ask you to lob something into a ppa for me to grab and test... | 13:22 |
| apw | lamont, heh, my ears they seem to have stopped working | 13:23 |
| lamont | lol | 13:23 |
| lamont | I didn't say lob something tested at it... :) | 13:23 |
| apw | lamont, does a test kernel need to be in PPA or can i just give you a .deb | 13:27 |
| lamont | actually, I want the pxeboot kernel and initrd from netinst | 13:27 |
| apw | lamont, erm, no idea how those are made | 13:27 |
| lamont | so if it's modules, it's more complicated | 13:27 |
| lamont | debs will do just fine | 13:28 |
| apw | does a PPA build of a kernel make something you can consume in that context ? | 13:28 |
| apw | phew | 13:28 |
| lamont | I might need all the debs, which means ppa, I suspect | 13:28 |
| apw | debs or .udebs ? | 13:28 |
| apw | lamont, is there a bug associated with this yet ? | 13:29 |
| lamont | no | 13:29 |
| lamont | rather, not that I know of. | 13:30 |
| lamont | and yeah, if you can make it a non-module in the kernel deb you give me, that will simplify my life greatly | 13:30 |
| apw | i386 or amd64 ? | 13:30 |
| lamont | amd64 | 13:30 |
| apw | flavour ? | 13:31 |
| apw | lamont, ^ | 13:31 |
| lamont | 2.6.24-24-generic <-- that's what I'm running now... | 13:32 |
| lamont | for the final fix, I need 2.6.24-xx-xen | 13:32 |
| apw | yep just interested in finding out if there is any hope | 13:32 |
| apw | lamont, i'll let you know if it builds ... | 13:35 |
| lamont | ta. I have about 16 other things on my plate today, it may be sometime next week before I actually get to test it | 13:35 |
| apw | lamont, sounds familiar | 13:37 |
| smb | lamont, apw IIRC there was one guy sending a patch for Hardy to get N10 controllers supported... | 13:41 |
| apw | smb, got a pointer to that ? | 13:42 |
| smb | Re: Fwd: Dell PowerEdge R410 ICH10 SATA support in Ubuntu Hardy | 13:42 |
| smb | On our mailing list | 13:42 |
| apw | ok | 13:42 |
| smb | We were a bit doubtful that only adding IDs is all thats needed | 13:43 |
| smb | Then there was no comment back on that | 13:43 |
| smb | Or we got distracted | 13:43 |
| smb | One of the three | 13:43 |
| apw | his attempt to claim copyright in code which was already upstream and only a backport seemed lame | 13:44 |
| apw | anyhow, i've just pulle the upstream commit which added the support back | 13:44 |
| smb | That applied cleanly to Hardy? | 13:44 |
| apw | the original which applied them yes, they are linked as ich8 , they don't seem to be special ich10 code anywhere | 13:45 |
| smb | Hm, ok. So with a simple backport from upstream it is more likely to accept it | 13:46 |
| apw | smb, it applied without any fuzz even ... | 13:46 |
| apw | and we have the advantage we can get lamont to test it | 13:46 |
| smb | true | 13:46 |
| apw | most of the recent updates for all the really new ICH stuff has just been id's too | 13:47 |
| smb | Sounds simple enough to get those supported as soon as servers turn up using that | 13:48 |
| lamont | apw: and if you give me an initrd to go with that kernel, even if I need to boot with break to get reality, that's a bonus | 13:48 |
| lamont | meh. I can do that part easily enough | 13:49 |
| apw | lamont, an initrd is harder for sure | 13:49 |
| apw | smb, do you have a hardy box ? | 13:50 |
| * lamont does | 13:50 | |
| lamont | I have a whole bucket full | 13:50 |
| apw | so we could get the new kernel installed on one to get the initramfs built | 13:50 |
| smb | apw, Not normally running Hardy | 13:50 |
| smb | apw, Oh wait | 13:52 |
| smb | I have the test environment for preventing xen explode again. That is a server install even | 13:53 |
| smb | apw, Have you already started a test build for that on one of your machines? | 13:54 |
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| apw | smb, yes build is done, image is uploading to rookery now | 13:55 |
| smb | ok. lamont, if you need me to generate an initrd, let me know | 13:55 |
| lamont | smb: if you would, that would spare me abusing a machine that I shouldn't | 13:56 |
| smb | lamont, sure | 13:57 |
| lamont | esp if this is, as I suspect, the same ABI number as current hardy-security/updates | 13:57 |
| apw | smb, ok will let you know when the kernel is up | 13:57 |
| smb | apw, ok | 13:57 |
| apw | 24-28.83 | 13:57 |
| smb | apw, Those are the lucky numbers? ;) | 13:59 |
| apw | yep you win the lottery if you play those | 13:59 |
| * smb wonders how hardly apw would bite into his but is he played and won | 14:00 | |
| JFo | I'm sure he would charge a nominal fee smb | 14:09 |
| JFo | :) | 14:10 |
| apw | smb, http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lamont-ich10-hardy/ | 14:10 |
| JFo | so cking that ATI BIOS issue is a breakage in the BIOS or in GRUB2? | 14:26 |
| smb | apw, In my home on people there is a initrd.img-2.6.24-28-generic. Could you add that to your lamont-ich10? | 14:31 |
| cking | JFo, dunno | 14:35 |
| JFo | k :) | 14:35 |
| apw | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/683775 | 14:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 683775 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Natty Alpha 1, i915 has blank screen after boot (affects: 5) (dups: 1) (heat: 32)" [High,In progress] | 14:36 |
| apw | smb ^ | 14:36 |
| JFo | smb, were you the person working that NFS bug we got pinged a bout yesterday? | 14:38 |
| * JFo can't remember | 14:38 | |
| JFo | :) | 14:38 |
| smb | JFo, Seems in the end I got myself assigned (stupid!) :) | 14:39 |
| JFo | sorry about that :) | 14:39 |
| smb | I'll have a look when I can hear myself thinking again. :) | 14:39 |
| smb | JFo, Meh, life | 14:39 |
| JFo | yeh | 14:39 |
| apw | lamont, see http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lamont-ich10-hardy/ for all you initrd desires | 14:40 |
| lamont | apw: coolness. you ok with leaving it there until next week? (and do you want me to leave it or nuke it when I grab it? | 14:40 |
| apw | just leave it, it will expire by iteself over time | 14:42 |
| apw | lamont, let me know how it works out | 14:42 |
| apw | as i will completely forget about it shortly | 14:42 |
| smb | lamont, You will have the honor to open a bug for it... | 14:42 |
| JFo | heh | 14:46 |
| lamont | nod | 14:47 |
| JFo | <- need coffee. brb | 14:48 |
| JFo | mmmm, coffee | 14:52 |
| * apw slaps Jfo | 14:54 | |
| JFo | :-( | 14:55 |
| JFo | why? | 14:55 |
| * JFo cries | 14:55 | |
| smb | JFo, You mentioned coffee | 14:55 |
| smb | without sharing | 14:55 |
| apw | we're about to lose about 5 man hours as we all run off to get some :) | 14:55 |
| JFo | heh | 14:55 |
| JFo | sorry about that | 14:55 |
| apw | JFo, HEY | 15:17 |
| JFo | apw. yo | 15:18 |
| JFo | apw do the 2 old bugs on this list seem to apply to the gfxpayload issue? http://goo.gl/U9BCr | 15:31 |
| apw | JFo, http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.html | 15:35 |
| apw | cking, JFo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty | 15:36 |
| JFo | thanks apw | 15:38 |
| JFo | <-lunch | 16:48 |
| ogasawara | bjf: I'm going to push my Lucid fsl-imx51 branch if that's ok. | 17:36 |
| bjf | ogasawara, sorry, yes please! | 17:36 |
| bjf | ogasawara, we don't really care about those branches :-) | 17:37 |
| ogasawara | heh | 17:37 |
| ogasawara | bjf: should I go ahead and upload the package to our PPA? | 17:37 |
| bjf | ogasawara, you can if you want, i've not uploaded the mvl-dove one though i have one ready, i'm waiting on the discussion with pitti just to see if there are going to be issues | 17:40 |
| ogasawara | bjf: that's a good point, I'll hold off for now. | 17:41 |
| bjf | ogasawara, oh, the other thing for mvl-dove is, there is already a build "baking" in -proposed for some time | 17:41 |
| bjf | ogasawara, and ... just the fact the branches are "up to date" is better than we've been in a while :-) | 17:42 |
| ogasawara | bjf: probably good to holf off on mvl-dove then if there's still one baking in -proposed. | 17:42 |
| apw | ogasawara, don't say push too loudly | 17:45 |
| ogasawara | hehe | 17:45 |
| manjo | smb, emailed you the info I was talking about | 17:59 |
| manjo | apw, you are echoing badly | 18:06 |
| manjo | apw, heh | 18:06 |
| * apw wanders off to find beer | 18:54 | |
| * cking wanders off to get a life | 19:27 | |
| * smb found some | 19:27 | |
| smb | (beer) | 19:27 |
| cking | no life then? | 19:28 |
| Sarvatt | anyone have any recommendations on which commits to start reverting from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2010-November/001282.html that might make grub stop loading after a reboot (but works on a cold boot)? 2.6.37-2.10 and earlier work fine, everything later hangs at the grub loading screen after rebooting on my i386 netbook. mainline kernels all work fine | 19:28 |
| smb | cking, If there is beer there is life | 19:28 |
| cking | smb, the two mutually exclusive then? | 19:28 |
| smb | cking, I did not think I said that, did I | 19:29 |
| smb | Rather inclusive | 19:29 |
| smb | But proabably not strictly | 19:29 |
| cking | :-) | 19:29 |
| cking | gotta go.. seeya all | 19:29 |
| smb | have a good one | 19:29 |
| manjo | jjohansen, around ? | 20:00 |
| jjohansen | yep | 20:06 |
| jjohansen | manjo: whats up? | 20:06 |
| JFo | brb | 20:22 |
| JFo | yay I have heat once again in my house | 20:56 |
| * jjohansen lunch | 21:32 | |
| * charlie-tca really likes heat. It is is very nice to have when it is cold. | 21:37 | |
| JFo | indeed it is charlie-tca | 21:40 |
| * ogasawara lunch | 22:09 | |
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