=== jjohansen is now known as jj-afk [01:58] JFo, around? === xfaf is now known as zul [06:52] hi [06:52] I installed linux-image-server on 10.10 how do i make it default kernel ? [07:07] kaushal: change the grub defaults. but i guess you would better ask in the generic support channel, as this one is meant for kernel development. [07:07] kaushal: #ubuntu, or #ubuntu-{your language tag}, like #ubuntu-fr - for example. [07:13] Thanks LetoThe2nd [08:30] joshhunt, i think firmware is normally in there [08:36] kaushal, normally the latest kernel installed is the default kernel === smb` is now known as smb [08:37] apw: ok [08:39] apw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/539323/ [08:39] apw: I have rebooted it too [08:41] kaushal, i am confused, you only have one kernel installed according to that, so whatever you are running is the server kernel [08:41] or more specifically 'the kernel for server use' [08:42] which as you are running i386 is the generic-pae kernel [08:42] apw: basically I am needing server kernel [08:42] kaushal, needing in what sense? what is the kernel you have not doing for you [08:42] it says --generic and not --server ? [08:43] 2.6.24-28-server [08:43] for example [08:43] that kernel is still the kernel we recommend for i386 servers, hense you installed linux-image-server and you got the kernel we recommend for that use [08:43] ok [08:44] from lucid onwards that is no longer called -server, as it is also used for larger 'desktops' which were not supported [08:44] there is actually not much difference in configuration from -generic to -server for i386 on older releases either [08:47] apw: is there a way to know from /proc [08:47] the kernel version [08:48] cat /proc/version and /proc/version_signature [08:53] apw: Thanks [09:43] apw, Quick question on the pre-proposed stuff: are you looking at master-next only for the kernel or for lbm and meta as well? [09:43] smb, only for kernel, noone has mentioned changing to master-next for anything else yet [09:43] i don't care if we do change at all if thats less confusing [09:44] apw, Ok, cool. Then I am good. I have no strong preference there. Just was wondering after having added something to a meta package [09:44] no ... am assuming if there is a change somone will tell me [09:45] Likely so === doko_ is now known as doko [12:40] Intel Server System SR1600UR <-- machine has no disks when hardy scans it... is there a driver that didn't come along for this box until lucid/maverick timeframe? === amitk is now known as amitk-afk [13:02] lamont, there have been some new drivers for sure, or newer firmware for same ... what does lspci say it has [13:04] apw: let me get back there [13:11] apw: any options you want to lspci? [13:12] -nnvv to get the pci id's <- lamont [13:14] so here I sit in busybox from pxeboot with a 40kb file... suggestions on how to get it off the box? [13:15] lamont, well i only want the pci-ids for the disk controller [13:15] 00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA AHCI Controller [8086:27c1] (rev 02) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0]) [13:15] 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller [13:15] lamont, like on mine here i have that, the bit in []'s is the bit i want [13:15] that sort of beast? [13:15] that sounds like it yes [13:15] with -nnvv you'll have a [xxxs:yyy] thingy [13:15] 00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller [8086:3a20] (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO]) [13:16] Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device [8086:34de] [13:16] I think that second line is rather a smoking gun [13:16] that implies the kernel has no mapping for the system itself [13:16] it doesn't know what sort of server it is [13:17] which isn't supprising for hardy [13:17] to be fair, it's certified for 10.10 and later [13:17] well, 10.10 only atm [13:17] since 11.04 certification is kinda hard to claim at alpha1 [13:18] does it matter that it's NUMA [13:18] shouldn't no [13:18] nm. hardy did just fine figuring out that it was numa and all that [13:19] it would be most kewl if I could get hardy's xen kernel working on these machines... two more ppas if we do [13:20] from natty> drivers/ata/ata_piix.c: { 0x8086, 0x3a20, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, ich8_sat [13:20] from hardy > [13:21] is it likely just a matter of adding the PCI ID? [13:22] lamont, looking now [13:22] eventually, if it's simple, you know I'm going to ask you to lob something into a ppa for me to grab and test... [13:23] lamont, heh, my ears they seem to have stopped working [13:23] lol [13:23] I didn't say lob something tested at it... :) [13:27] lamont, does a test kernel need to be in PPA or can i just give you a .deb [13:27] actually, I want the pxeboot kernel and initrd from netinst [13:27] lamont, erm, no idea how those are made [13:27] so if it's modules, it's more complicated [13:28] debs will do just fine [13:28] does a PPA build of a kernel make something you can consume in that context ? [13:28] phew [13:28] I might need all the debs, which means ppa, I suspect [13:28] debs or .udebs ? [13:29] lamont, is there a bug associated with this yet ? [13:29] no [13:30] rather, not that I know of. [13:30] and yeah, if you can make it a non-module in the kernel deb you give me, that will simplify my life greatly [13:30] i386 or amd64 ? [13:30] amd64 [13:31] flavour ? [13:31] lamont, ^ [13:32] 2.6.24-24-generic <-- that's what I'm running now... [13:32] for the final fix, I need 2.6.24-xx-xen [13:32] yep just interested in finding out if there is any hope [13:35] lamont, i'll let you know if it builds ... [13:35] ta. I have about 16 other things on my plate today, it may be sometime next week before I actually get to test it [13:37] lamont, sounds familiar [13:41] lamont, apw IIRC there was one guy sending a patch for Hardy to get N10 controllers supported... [13:42] smb, got a pointer to that ? [13:42] Re: Fwd: Dell PowerEdge R410 ICH10 SATA support in Ubuntu Hardy [13:42] On our mailing list [13:42] ok [13:43] We were a bit doubtful that only adding IDs is all thats needed [13:43] Then there was no comment back on that [13:43] Or we got distracted [13:43] One of the three [13:44] his attempt to claim copyright in code which was already upstream and only a backport seemed lame [13:44] anyhow, i've just pulle the upstream commit which added the support back [13:44] That applied cleanly to Hardy? [13:45] the original which applied them yes, they are linked as ich8 , they don't seem to be special ich10 code anywhere [13:46] Hm, ok. So with a simple backport from upstream it is more likely to accept it [13:46] smb, it applied without any fuzz even ... [13:46] and we have the advantage we can get lamont to test it [13:46] true [13:47] most of the recent updates for all the really new ICH stuff has just been id's too [13:48] Sounds simple enough to get those supported as soon as servers turn up using that [13:48] apw: and if you give me an initrd to go with that kernel, even if I need to boot with break to get reality, that's a bonus [13:49] meh. I can do that part easily enough [13:49] lamont, an initrd is harder for sure [13:50] smb, do you have a hardy box ? [13:50] * lamont does [13:50] I have a whole bucket full [13:50] so we could get the new kernel installed on one to get the initramfs built [13:50] apw, Not normally running Hardy [13:52] apw, Oh wait [13:53] I have the test environment for preventing xen explode again. That is a server install even [13:54] apw, Have you already started a test build for that on one of your machines? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:55] smb, yes build is done, image is uploading to rookery now [13:55] ok. lamont, if you need me to generate an initrd, let me know [13:56] smb: if you would, that would spare me abusing a machine that I shouldn't [13:57] lamont, sure [13:57] esp if this is, as I suspect, the same ABI number as current hardy-security/updates [13:57] smb, ok will let you know when the kernel is up [13:57] apw, ok [13:57] 24-28.83 [13:59] apw, Those are the lucky numbers? ;) [13:59] yep you win the lottery if you play those [14:00] * smb wonders how hardly apw would bite into his but is he played and won [14:09] I'm sure he would charge a nominal fee smb [14:10] :) [14:10] smb, http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lamont-ich10-hardy/ [14:26] so cking that ATI BIOS issue is a breakage in the BIOS or in GRUB2? [14:31] apw, In my home on people there is a initrd.img-2.6.24-28-generic. Could you add that to your lamont-ich10? [14:35] JFo, dunno [14:35] k :) [14:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/683775 [14:36] Launchpad bug 683775 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Natty Alpha 1, i915 has blank screen after boot (affects: 5) (dups: 1) (heat: 32)" [High,In progress] [14:36] smb ^ [14:38] smb, were you the person working that NFS bug we got pinged a bout yesterday? [14:38] * JFo can't remember [14:38] :) [14:39] JFo, Seems in the end I got myself assigned (stupid!) :) [14:39] sorry about that :) [14:39] I'll have a look when I can hear myself thinking again. :) [14:39] JFo, Meh, life [14:39] yeh [14:40] lamont, see http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lamont-ich10-hardy/ for all you initrd desires [14:40] apw: coolness. you ok with leaving it there until next week? (and do you want me to leave it or nuke it when I grab it? [14:42] just leave it, it will expire by iteself over time [14:42] lamont, let me know how it works out [14:42] as i will completely forget about it shortly [14:42] lamont, You will have the honor to open a bug for it... [14:46] heh [14:47] nod [14:48] <- need coffee. brb [14:52] mmmm, coffee [14:54] * apw slaps Jfo [14:55] :-( [14:55] why? [14:55] * JFo cries [14:55] JFo, You mentioned coffee [14:55] without sharing [14:55] we're about to lose about 5 man hours as we all run off to get some :) [14:55] heh [14:55] sorry about that [15:17] JFo, HEY [15:18] apw. yo [15:31] apw do the 2 old bugs on this list seem to apply to the gfxpayload issue? http://goo.gl/U9BCr [15:35] JFo, http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.html [15:36] cking, JFo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty [15:38] thanks apw [16:48] <-lunch [17:36] bjf: I'm going to push my Lucid fsl-imx51 branch if that's ok. [17:36] ogasawara, sorry, yes please! [17:37] ogasawara, we don't really care about those branches :-) [17:37] heh [17:37] bjf: should I go ahead and upload the package to our PPA? [17:40] ogasawara, you can if you want, i've not uploaded the mvl-dove one though i have one ready, i'm waiting on the discussion with pitti just to see if there are going to be issues [17:41] bjf: that's a good point, I'll hold off for now. [17:41] ogasawara, oh, the other thing for mvl-dove is, there is already a build "baking" in -proposed for some time [17:42] ogasawara, and ... just the fact the branches are "up to date" is better than we've been in a while :-) [17:42] bjf: probably good to holf off on mvl-dove then if there's still one baking in -proposed. [17:45] ogasawara, don't say push too loudly [17:45] hehe [17:59] smb, emailed you the info I was talking about [18:06] apw, you are echoing badly [18:06] apw, heh [18:54] * apw wanders off to find beer [19:27] * cking wanders off to get a life [19:27] * smb found some [19:27] (beer) [19:28] no life then? [19:28] anyone have any recommendations on which commits to start reverting from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2010-November/001282.html that might make grub stop loading after a reboot (but works on a cold boot)? 2.6.37-2.10 and earlier work fine, everything later hangs at the grub loading screen after rebooting on my i386 netbook. mainline kernels all work fine [19:28] cking, If there is beer there is life [19:28] smb, the two mutually exclusive then? [19:29] cking, I did not think I said that, did I [19:29] Rather inclusive [19:29] But proabably not strictly [19:29] :-) [19:29] gotta go.. seeya all [19:29] have a good one [20:00] jjohansen, around ? [20:06] yep [20:06] manjo: whats up? [20:22] brb [20:56] yay I have heat once again in my house [21:32] * jjohansen lunch [21:37] * charlie-tca really likes heat. It is is very nice to have when it is cold. [21:40] indeed it is charlie-tca [22:09] * ogasawara lunch === bjf is now known as bjf[afk]