[01:42] <micahg> does reverse-build-depends work for anyone else?
[03:33] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:33] <ScottK> micahg: What's your problem?
[03:34]  * ScottK is going to guess it's that the version is hard coded in the script and so you have to edit it if you want a different one.
[04:33] <hyperair> jpds: ping
[05:03] <micahg> ScottK: I get a message about being unable to find source files
[05:03] <ScottK> micahg: That's the one.  If you go to the line number in the error message, you'll find the edit you need to make is pretty obvious I think.
[05:09] <micahg> ScottK: got it, I just need to pass --distribution maverick (or enable natty sources)
[05:09] <ScottK> I always just edit the file, but yes.
[05:10] <micahg> that's probably easier in case I forget
[05:12] <micahg> ScottK: thanks
[05:12] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[07:38] <spaceboy909> Are packaging questions ok in here?
[08:25] <dholbach> good morning!
[10:42] <Daviey> Hi, would someone be able to sponsor merge bug #683893 please ?
[10:48] <beerpages> Erstelle dir deine eigene Umfrage - Beispiel: http://www.beerpages.de/view/2H/Anti-%22Die%20%C3%84rzte%22%20Kampagne
[10:56] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[10:57] <EvaLuaTe> does ubuntu also take packages from PPAs?
[11:04] <EvaLuaTe> I mean, do they include packages from PPA's in their own repository? I currently have a RFS open on debian for my package and it seems it'll still gonna take some time until it gets uploaded. I have made a PPA for ubuntu though, and I was curios if those get "scanned" by the ubuntu team automatically or if someone has to explicitely submit such a PPA to be included in the ubuntu repos...
[11:14] <Laney> EvaLuaTe: who did you submit the RFS to? A packaging team or debian-mentors?
[11:14] <EvaLuaTe> Laney, debian-mentors...
[11:14] <Laney> and to answer your question: nobody looks on PPAs — you have to manually request inclusion
[11:15] <Laney> You may find a dedicated team more responsive and amenable to your request. :)
[11:15] <Laney> http://wiki.debian.org/Teams#Packagingteams
[11:16] <EvaLuaTe> hmm
[11:19] <EvaLuaTe> well, since I already submited a RFS to the debian-mentors list, I guess I can't submit another one to also pkg-gnome for example, or would this be acceptable?
[11:19] <EvaLuaTe> also, how would I request inclusion of my PPA into ubuntu?
[11:19] <Laney> just cross-reference them, it should be fine
[11:19] <Laney> !revu
[11:21] <EvaLuaTe> Laney, sorry but this is my first time "participating" in a mailing list. what exactly do you mean with cross-reference? Do you mean that when I contact the pkg-gnome team, I should tell them that there is also an open RFS for that pcakage on debian-mentors?
[11:21] <Laney> right. :)
[11:22] <Laney> you could go to #debian-gnome on OFTC
[11:22] <EvaLuaTe> oh, thank you very much for the help! :-)
[11:23] <EvaLuaTe> s/oh/ok/
[11:25] <hyperair> iulian: ping
[11:26] <hyperair> iulian: pidgin-facebookchat stopped working, and there's a new upstream release fixing it. could you update the package?
[11:26] <Laney> is that package necessary now that fb offers xmpp?
[11:40] <cdbs> bdrung: there?
[13:36] <geser> lucas: would it be easily possible to add to http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi when the last rebuild happened (on which date it was done)?
[15:14] <RainCT> Hey sebner
[15:17] <sebner> hola  RainCT =)
[15:18] <RainCT> sebner: Now you can ask me to sponsor stuff for you again :P
[15:20] <mok0> How can you prevent all kind of junk going into debian/patches/debian-changes-* ???
[15:20] <RainCT> mok0: Other than fixing your clean rule?
[15:20] <mok0> I am think specifically of gnu autotools stuff
[15:20] <mok0> RainCT: yeah
[15:21] <sebner> RainCT: Did I miss something? DD already? =)
[15:21] <mok0> I am having the problem because I maintain packaging in a bzr branch
[15:22] <mok0> and of course the branch does not include autotools files
[15:22] <mok0> .... but they are in the tar.gz file
[15:22] <mok0> ... which is made by doing "make dist"
[15:23] <mok0> I can't see any way out of this dilemma
[15:23] <bdrung> mok0: remove them on clean
[15:23] <mok0> bdrung: I guess
[15:23] <bdrung> mok0: removed files shouldn't end up in the diff (or do they?)
[15:23] <mok0> bdrung: but it's kludgy
[15:24] <bdrung> mok0: then add the files to your branch
[15:24] <mok0> bdrung: because we never know when autotools change and decides to put new files in there
[15:24] <mok0> bdrung: no, they don
[15:24] <mok0> don
[15:24] <mok0> don't belong in the branch
[15:24] <bdrung> mok0: you could use helper tools to update the autotools files
[15:25] <bdrung> mok0: maybe separate packaging branch?
[15:25] <mok0> bdrung: I have that
[15:25] <mok0> bdrung: but the auto generated files keep changing and I don't want them in the repo
[15:25] <mok0> bdrung: I run autoreconfig at build time
[15:26] <mok0> (in principle)
[15:26] <mok0> I like best deleting them in the clean target
[15:26] <bdrung> mok0: then remove the autogenerated files on clean (maybe some helper tools may help)
[15:26] <mok0> hrpmåh
[15:26] <RainCT> sebner: Yeah!
[15:27] <mok0> bdrung: yes :-)
[15:27] <sebner> RainCT: congrats!
[15:27] <RainCT> Thanks :)
[15:27] <mok0> RainCT: nice going
[15:50] <hakermania> hello all, may I ask something? In most of the programs in the Ubuntu Software Center there are pictures (an external picture and a picture shown when you click More Info and usually shows some functions) . What about these pictures? After I finish packaging should I do something to show them if REVU accept my package?
[15:52] <hakermania> [did I post here? (if yes, sorry I reconnected): hello all, may I ask something? In most of the programs in the Ubuntu Software Center there are pictures (an external picture and a picture shown when you click More Info and usually shows some functions) . What about these pictures? After I finish packaging should I do something to show them if REVU accept my package?
[15:52] <ScottK> The screen shots are from screenshots.debian.net
[15:53] <ScottK> So get your package in Debian and then submit a screenshot there is, AFAIK, the answer.
[15:55] <hakermania> "get your package in Debian" ? My package is designed for ubuntu only!
[15:59] <geser> why is it Ubuntu only?
[16:01] <superm1> it doesnt have to be in debian to get the screenshot submitted
[16:01] <superm1> if it's in just ubuntu, it still works if there a screenshot at screenshots.debian.net (which allows uploads for packages not in debian)
[16:13] <hakermania> ok, so, let's say I upload a screenshot to screenshots.debian, how do I declare it in order to be used with my package submitted to REVU?
[16:18] <hakermania> my package hasn't yet been approved by REVU, so it isn't in the list of screenshots.debian (http://screenshots.debian.net/upload) should i wait my package to be accepted to be able to upload an image?
[16:20] <hakermania> I'll be back in 1.30 hours. You'let me know then.... :/
[18:17] <hakermania> hello all, I have packaged my application for REVU, but I need to know how exactly the image of the package will be defined. I've heard about debian.screenshots.net but (of course) my package cannot be found in http://screenshots.debian.net/upload because REVU hasn't accepted it yet! What's the process I have to follow?
[18:20] <hyperair> the REVU process brings your package into Ubuntu, not into Debian
[18:33] <hakermania> yes I know but I was told 2 hours ago in this channel that I have to go to sreenshots.debian.net and have my screenshot there for ubuntu too.
[18:37] <hakermania> anybody to help out there?
[18:46] <hakermania> 208 people and nobody willing to help me out? --_--'
[18:57] <AnAnt> Hello, is binutils-gold part of the toolchain for Natty ?
[18:58] <micahg> AnAnt: I think some of the features are, idk if it is specifically
[19:01] <AnAnt> ok
[19:01] <hyperair> hakermania: sorry, it's exam period at the moment for me. you'll just have to wait a while, people don't stare at their irc clients all the time.
[19:02] <hakermania> I'm half an hour here :/
[19:02] <micahg> hakermania: and not everyone is familiar with how screenshots.d.o works
[19:03] <hakermania> one in 207 in the appropriate channel should be :/
[19:03] <AnAnt> ?
[19:04] <micahg> hakermania: what makes this channel appropriate for such a question?
[19:04] <hakermania> A lot of people here had their programs uploaded to REVU and know the answer
[19:04] <micahg> hakermania: REVU has nothing to do with screenshots.d.o
[19:05] <Nafallo> hakermania: what are you trying to achieve?
[19:05] <AnAnt> maybe guys  #debian-mentors @ OFTC can help ?
[19:05] <Nafallo> (the full 9 yards plan)
[19:06] <hakermania> What I am trying to do is to know how programs in Ubuntu Software Center have their pics declared and where (has nothing to do with packaging)
[19:07] <AnAnt> hakermania: I thought you want to upload some screenshots
[19:07] <hakermania> Yes, in debian.screenshots.net as i was told a couple of hours ago.
[19:07] <Nafallo> hakermania: so first of, it's wouldn't be about programs in REVU, but in Ubuntu itself. second of, I would say #ubuntu-desktop is better for Ubuntu Software Center than this channel.
[19:08] <hakermania> --_--' I hate being sent from channel to channel. Anyway, ty
[19:08] <AnAnt> hakermania: I never tried to upload a screenshot, did you try there ?
[19:09] <hakermania> AnAnt: I can't upload a screenshot there. The program hasn't yet be accepted and debian.screenshots.net lists only the programs that have been accepted. Anyway, I'm changing channel
[19:09] <Nafallo> hakermania: well, I believe the question is out of scope for this channel, and being sent to another channel that might be able to give you an answer shouldn't be that far-fetched :-)
[19:09] <hakermania> ok
[19:09] <hakermania> bb
[19:09] <AnAnt> hakermania: I am using elinks to browse http://screenshots.debian.net/upload, I don't see a dropdown list
[19:10] <hakermania> AnAnt: try to write out a package-name in the Package name: field that doesn't exist plz
[19:10] <hakermania> like: sdfasdfas
[19:12] <hakermania> bb
[19:13] <AnAnt> ah, so you'll have to wait till it is accepted in Ubuntu
[19:14] <AnAnt> I don't understand what he wants to achieve
[19:15]  * micahg thinks he wants SC images from a package in a PPA
[19:15] <Nafallo> not PPA, REVU from what I understand.
[19:15] <AnAnt> why the rush ?
[19:16] <Nafallo> I believe the answer is that the package has to land in Debian first.
[19:16] <Nafallo> but I don't know that for certain.
[19:16] <AnAnt> Nafallo: I don't think so, I just tried for a package that's in Ubuntu only, and the upload got accepted
[19:16] <AnAnt> Nafallo: but still awaiting review though
[19:16] <Nafallo> ah. so at least be in a proper archive somewhere then :-)
[19:17] <AnAnt> yup
[20:29] <iulian> hyperair: Sure mate.  I'm going to upload it either tonight or tomorrow morning.
[20:32] <maxb> How is pycentral's /var/lib/pycentral/<package>.pkgremove file supposed to be used?
[20:33] <iulian> hyperair: I don't know why I'm not getting bug mail.
[20:33] <maxb> As far as I can see, the old package's prerm has run before there's anything a new version of the package could do to create a signal file
[20:33] <iulian> Oh yea.  I'm co-maintaining it.
[20:47] <iulian> Laney_: Not sure about it as I'm not using pidgin-fb myself.  I'm not even on facebook so I cannot say much.  Take a look at http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/wiki/XMPPDifferences.
[21:00] <hyperair> iulian: because you're not the Maintainer.
[21:00] <hyperair> iulian: you'll need to subscribe at packages.qa.debian.org/pidgin-facebookchat
[21:01] <iulian> hyperair: <iulian> Oh yea.  I'm co-maintaining it.
[21:02] <hyperair> Laney_: i use pidgin-fbchat because my university's panel of monkeys somehow managed to have a 99% hit rate on cutting unencrypted XMPP connections short halfway.
[21:02] <hyperair> Laney_: at least when pidgin attempts it. it succeeds with empathy, but empathy doesn't quite meet my expectations yet, so i don't use it
[21:02] <hyperair> iulian: ah right.
[21:02] <hyperair> iulian: sorry, i'm sleepy and the red stuff really stands out so that's all i saw. =p
[21:04] <iulian> hyperair: It's alright.  I'm gonna upload it in a couple of minutes.  Would you like to co-maintain it as well?
[21:28] <iulian> hyperair: Uploaded.  Thanks for bringing it up.
[21:28] <hyperair> thanks for uploading =)