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nhandlerYep akgraner00:00
akgranernhandler, that reminds me is your how to contribute to the fridge guide ready to go to the wiki?00:00
nhandlerakgraner: I have it on the wiki (link on the agenda). Can we bring up that agenda item?00:01
akgranerI wanted to include a link to the information in the meeting minutes  - I am going to send out later tonight00:01
akgraneryep one sec and we will be there :-)00:01
nhandler:)00:01
akgraner[TOPIC] Revising Ubuntu News Team Wiki Pages00:01
Mootbot-UKNew Topic:  Revising Ubuntu News Team Wiki Pages00:01
akgranerso as some of you maybe painfully aware there is a new wiki theme - and as such some of the pages really need a facelift00:02
akgraneralso some of the pages haven't been touched since 200800:02
akgranermany of the pages need to be consolidated or moved under a different page etc00:02
akgranerwhile none of the tasks are terrible hard - they are time consuming00:03
akgranerso I was thinking we need 1) a list of pages that need fixing so people can grab a task and just do it and 2) prior to that list being made come up with some sort of guidelines for how we want the team represented on the wikis00:04
akgranerthoughts?00:04
cjohnstonI must go.. if something comes up that my input is needed (haha) call me00:04
akgranercjohnston, thank you! and will do!00:05
pleia2akgraner: presumably these are all the pages under and linked to /NewsTeam ?00:05
nhandlerOne thing that I noticed the other day is that a lot of stuff is clumped under the UWN namespace. I think we definitely need to try and use the NewsTeam namespace as much as possible00:05
nhandlerpleia2: We have UWN and Fridge namespaces as well00:05
* pleia2 nods00:06
akgranerI agree00:06
akgranerI was just getting information on a page when I was updating stuff00:06
akgranerand figure it was easier for someone to change a namespace than create the wiki from scratch00:07
nhandler+1 akgraner00:07
akgranernhandler, do you have time to work on News Team Wiki generic organization guide?00:07
akgranerso people who like working on wikis can see the suggested guide and know where they need to move stuff etc00:08
nhandlerakgraner: I could create a basic guide00:08
akgraneror if someone is adding a page they sorta have a better idea of where something needs to go?  Or maybe I am just making it to complicated and we just need a todo list?00:09
nhandlerakgraner: Most of it should be self-explanatory, but cleaning up the namespaces (maybe moving Fridge and UWN below NewsTeam might help)00:09
akgranernhandler,  so let's go with an action item for you to cleanup namespaces and then go from there00:10
akgraner(I'll help where I can as well)00:10
nhandlerSounds good (and thanks)00:10
akgranernhandler, thanks  - hope that wasn't a terrible volun-told thing - sorry if it sounded that way00:11
akgraner[ACTION] nhandler to cleanup news team wiki page namespaces00:11
Mootbot-UKACTION received:  nhandler to cleanup news team wiki page namespaces00:11
akgraner[TOPIC] - How To Contribute to The Fridge Guide00:12
Mootbot-UKNew Topic:  - How To Contribute to The Fridge Guide00:12
akgranernhandler, the floor is yours00:12
akgraner:-)00:12
nhandlerI copied the draft I had made over to the wiki yesterday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit00:13
nhandler[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit00:13
Mootbot-UKLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit00:13
nhandlerWe had talked about converting it to be more bullet list like (instead of paragraphs), but I haven't had the time00:13
nhandlerIt could also use more people looking it over and making corrections/suggestions where necessary00:13
akgranernhandler, thank you so much for drafting this up.00:14
nhandlerSo the agenda item was mainly just to toss the link out and ask people to look it over and provide feedback and help make changes00:14
nhandlerakgraner: No problem. Thank you and pleia2 for looking it over earlier00:14
nhandlerAny comments/questions?00:15
akgraner[ACTION] - News Team needs to review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit and give feedback00:15
Mootbot-UKACTION received:  - News Team needs to review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit and give feedback00:15
nhandlerakgraner: Once it is reviewd, it might be helpful to link to it from the actual fridge00:16
akgraner+100:16
* nhandler has nothing else for this topic tonight00:17
akgranernhandler, can you email any questions, comments thoughts etc that I need to add to the list for IS about the test site?00:17
nhandlerakgraner: Yeah. When are you sending that?00:17
akgranerShooting for Monday00:18
akgraneris that doable for you?00:18
akgranerI can delay if I need too?00:18
nhandlerakgraner: Should be. Just give me a poke over the weekend if I don't have it to you by then00:18
akgranerk thanks!00:18
nhandlerIf nobody else is around now, or if you want, we can bring some of my other agenda items to the ML00:18
pleia2I'm still here, but ML is fine too00:19
akgraner[TOPIC] - Request for feedback on Interview Script  on ubuntu-news.org/future fridge00:19
Mootbot-UKNew Topic:  - Request for feedback on Interview Script  on ubuntu-news.org/future fridge00:19
akgranernhandler, pleia2 yep was going to post these to ML as well :-)00:19
internalkernelim here too00:19
akgraneroh sorry internalkernel wasn't trying to leave ya out00:20
internalkernellol... no worries00:20
nhandlerThe interview script parses https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Interviews for the most recent interview. If it is from a white-listed site, it is posted as a blog post to the fridge and added to http://ubuntu-news.org/interview/00:20
nhandlerOne issue I still can't think of a good solution for is dealing with stuff like FCM (that uses a pdf)00:20
akgranernhandler, so you are needing the team to review this as well right?00:20
nhandlerI'd also appreciate some feedback on whether the team thinks this script is useful and if anything should be changed00:21
nhandlerakgraner: Yep00:21
nhandlerAnd making them aware of its existance00:21
akgraner[ACTION] - News Team needs to review interview script and give nhandler feedback00:22
Mootbot-UKACTION received:  - News Team needs to review interview script and give nhandler feedback00:22
* sladen arrives, sorry for being late00:22
akgranerhi sladen no worries - thanks for joining!00:22
akgranerso there are two more topics do you all want to discuss them now or just add them to the minutes from the meeting as ask for feedback there?00:23
akgranerI can stick around for about 10 more minutes then I have to run00:23
nhandlerakgraner: It might be best to have them as separate threads on the ML to keep things organized00:23
internalkerneleither way for me00:23
akgranernhandler, yep - I'll list the minutes then note for discussion there are separate discussion threads00:24
nhandlerThanks akgraner.00:24
akgranerwell it is late and we've gone about 30 minutes longer than normal - so here is the big question before we end the meeting00:25
akgranerwho would like to be the 1st rotating publishing editor to publish UWN on Monday00:25
akgraner(I can help train on Sunday and get it all ready for Monday, but I am traveling for work on Monday)00:26
akgranerok - I'll ask in the meeting minutes/notes as well :-)00:27
akgraneranything else from anyone before we adjourn the meeting?00:27
nhandlerakgraner: I can "publish" monday, but I would not be able to do the actual writing of the sections the editor normaly does for UWN00:27
internalkernelI'll help do the sections - is there anythign up for Monday yet?00:28
internalkernelI'll be available on Sunday for working with you akgraner00:28
akgranernhandler, awesome! internalkernel nope but I'll get it all set up for everyone00:28
internalkernelif your gong to be at the wnclug on sat, we can go over some stuff there...00:29
akgranerinternalkernel, I'll see what I can do..00:29
akgranerDo we need to meet again this month or Just wait til January?00:29
akgraner(promise my last question)00:30
nhandlerakgraner: Wait until January (we have the holidays). But we might want to try and use the ML a bit more to keep everyone on the same page00:30
* nhandler is at fault there a bit00:30
akgranernhandler, agree - I am guilty as well.00:30
akgraner[TOPIC] Next meeting January 6th, 201100:31
Mootbot-UKNew Topic:  Next meeting January 6th, 201100:31
akgranerwho wants to chair the meeting?00:31
nhandlerakgraner: Might be best to sort that out a bit closer to the meeting (things have a habit of coming up last minute for people here)00:32
akgranernot a problem just wanted everyone to start thinking about it :-)00:32
nhandler:)00:32
akgranerok thanks everyone! Great Meeting!00:32
akgraner#endmeeting00:32
Mootbot-UKMeeting finished at 00:32.00:32
pleia2thanks akgraner00:32
sladenta, and night night00:32
internalkernelthanks00:33
akgranerok I am running away for a while - thanks again everyone and I'll get the minutes and logs out in a couple of hours - family time /homework is in full swing here atm :-)00:34
nUboon2AgeUbuntu Manual Officially Recognized By Canonical [Updated]; (& Ubuntu Dev Manual too) http://www.muktware.com/n/02/2010/547   akgraner11:27
cjohnstonnUboon2Age: thats not completely correct11:30
nUboon2Agecjohnston: the article?11:30
nUboon2Agewell the url is there if you want to update the update. :-)  cjohnston11:31
cjohnstonThis is Dinda's post: http://dindafoss.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/ubuntu-developer-manual-project/11:33
cjohnstonWas something talked about quite a bit at UDS11:33
nUboon2Agecjohnston: well the url i gave is the one that popped up in a google news search, so that's the one most people will see, but thank you for the better url11:35
cjohnstonthere have been a ton of posts about it.. one of the things I love.. just like the rolling release thing.. people were still posting that ubuntu is going to a rolling release even after sabdfl posted that it isnt11:36
cjohnstonnUboon2Age: she makes it clear in the (current) top comment that it isnt the same11:37
nUboon2Ageyeah, that's the nature of 'news' :-) cjohnston11:38
cjohnstonno sense in us using invalid info tho11:40
nhandlerThey updated the article based on popey's comment12:35
akgranerFYI - working on the email to the list from last nights meeting - I updated the UWN Archives page to reflect which issues weren't published and I'll have the new template up shortly reflecting the issue we should been on. - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Archive12:51
akgranerwhew - information from last night's meeting sent to mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2010-December/001216.html14:13
akgranerlogs from meeting can be found at - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Meetings/20100506/Log14:14
akgranertemplate and stuff will be a little while yet... (sorry)14:15
Mirvhi. first of all maybe in slight bigger letters on fridge.ubuntu.com that "please go to ubuntu-news.org", since the forwarding apparently takes some time14:24
Mirvsecondly, since the news wasn't actually on hold, did my interview got lost or were my answers too poor? :P (mainly pointed at akgraner which I also pinged some time ago)14:25
Mirvnot that it matters that much to me but I did spend some time with writing the answers, of course14:26
akgranerMirv - I thought it was posted  - one sec let me check something14:31
akgranerMirv, sorry about that  - Joeb454 added it dpm, reviewed it but, no-one (to include me) clicked Publish.  Thank you so much for letting us know.  I am so sorry about that14:36
Mirvok, good that it got resolved :P15:20

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