[00:00] <nhandler> Yep akgraner
[00:00] <akgraner> nhandler, that reminds me is your how to contribute to the fridge guide ready to go to the wiki?
[00:01] <nhandler> akgraner: I have it on the wiki (link on the agenda). Can we bring up that agenda item?
[00:01] <akgraner> I wanted to include a link to the information in the meeting minutes  - I am going to send out later tonight
[00:01] <akgraner> yep one sec and we will be there :-)
[00:01] <nhandler> :)
[00:01] <akgraner> [TOPIC] Revising Ubuntu News Team Wiki Pages
[00:01] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Revising Ubuntu News Team Wiki Pages
[00:02] <akgraner> so as some of you maybe painfully aware there is a new wiki theme - and as such some of the pages really need a facelift
[00:02] <akgraner> also some of the pages haven't been touched since 2008
[00:02] <akgraner> many of the pages need to be consolidated or moved under a different page etc
[00:03] <akgraner> while none of the tasks are terrible hard - they are time consuming
[00:04] <akgraner> so I was thinking we need 1) a list of pages that need fixing so people can grab a task and just do it and 2) prior to that list being made come up with some sort of guidelines for how we want the team represented on the wikis
[00:04] <akgraner> thoughts?
[00:04] <cjohnston> I must go.. if something comes up that my input is needed (haha) call me
[00:05] <akgraner> cjohnston, thank you! and will do!
[00:05] <pleia2> akgraner: presumably these are all the pages under and linked to /NewsTeam ?
[00:05] <nhandler> One thing that I noticed the other day is that a lot of stuff is clumped under the UWN namespace. I think we definitely need to try and use the NewsTeam namespace as much as possible
[00:05] <nhandler> pleia2: We have UWN and Fridge namespaces as well
[00:06]  * pleia2 nods
[00:06] <akgraner> I agree
[00:06] <akgraner> I was just getting information on a page when I was updating stuff
[00:07] <akgraner> and figure it was easier for someone to change a namespace than create the wiki from scratch
[00:07] <nhandler> +1 akgraner
[00:07] <akgraner> nhandler, do you have time to work on News Team Wiki generic organization guide?
[00:08] <akgraner> so people who like working on wikis can see the suggested guide and know where they need to move stuff etc
[00:08] <nhandler> akgraner: I could create a basic guide
[00:09] <akgraner> or if someone is adding a page they sorta have a better idea of where something needs to go?  Or maybe I am just making it to complicated and we just need a todo list?
[00:09] <nhandler> akgraner: Most of it should be self-explanatory, but cleaning up the namespaces (maybe moving Fridge and UWN below NewsTeam might help)
[00:10] <akgraner> nhandler,  so let's go with an action item for you to cleanup namespaces and then go from there
[00:10] <akgraner> (I'll help where I can as well)
[00:10] <nhandler> Sounds good (and thanks)
[00:11] <akgraner> nhandler, thanks  - hope that wasn't a terrible volun-told thing - sorry if it sounded that way
[00:11] <akgraner> [ACTION] nhandler to cleanup news team wiki page namespaces
[00:11] <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  nhandler to cleanup news team wiki page namespaces
[00:12] <akgraner> [TOPIC] - How To Contribute to The Fridge Guide
[00:12] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  - How To Contribute to The Fridge Guide
[00:12] <akgraner> nhandler, the floor is yours
[00:12] <akgraner> :-)
[00:13] <nhandler> I copied the draft I had made over to the wiki yesterday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit
[00:13] <nhandler> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit
[00:13] <Mootbot-UK> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit
[00:13] <nhandler> We had talked about converting it to be more bullet list like (instead of paragraphs), but I haven't had the time
[00:13] <nhandler> It could also use more people looking it over and making corrections/suggestions where necessary
[00:14] <akgraner> nhandler, thank you so much for drafting this up.
[00:14] <nhandler> So the agenda item was mainly just to toss the link out and ask people to look it over and provide feedback and help make changes
[00:14] <nhandler> akgraner: No problem. Thank you and pleia2 for looking it over earlier
[00:15] <nhandler> Any comments/questions?
[00:15] <akgraner> [ACTION] - News Team needs to review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit and give feedback
[00:15] <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  - News Team needs to review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit and give feedback
[00:16] <nhandler> akgraner: Once it is reviewd, it might be helpful to link to it from the actual fridge
[00:16] <akgraner> +1
[00:17]  * nhandler has nothing else for this topic tonight
[00:17] <akgraner> nhandler, can you email any questions, comments thoughts etc that I need to add to the list for IS about the test site?
[00:17] <nhandler> akgraner: Yeah. When are you sending that?
[00:18] <akgraner> Shooting for Monday
[00:18] <akgraner> is that doable for you?
[00:18] <akgraner> I can delay if I need too?
[00:18] <nhandler> akgraner: Should be. Just give me a poke over the weekend if I don't have it to you by then
[00:18] <akgraner> k thanks!
[00:18] <nhandler> If nobody else is around now, or if you want, we can bring some of my other agenda items to the ML
[00:19] <pleia2> I'm still here, but ML is fine too
[00:19] <akgraner> [TOPIC] - Request for feedback on Interview Script  on ubuntu-news.org/future fridge
[00:19] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  - Request for feedback on Interview Script  on ubuntu-news.org/future fridge
[00:19] <akgraner> nhandler, pleia2 yep was going to post these to ML as well :-)
[00:19] <internalkernel> im here too
[00:20] <akgraner> oh sorry internalkernel wasn't trying to leave ya out
[00:20] <internalkernel> lol... no worries
[00:20] <nhandler> The interview script parses https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Interviews for the most recent interview. If it is from a white-listed site, it is posted as a blog post to the fridge and added to http://ubuntu-news.org/interview/
[00:20] <nhandler> One issue I still can't think of a good solution for is dealing with stuff like FCM (that uses a pdf)
[00:20] <akgraner> nhandler, so you are needing the team to review this as well right?
[00:21] <nhandler> I'd also appreciate some feedback on whether the team thinks this script is useful and if anything should be changed
[00:21] <nhandler> akgraner: Yep
[00:21] <nhandler> And making them aware of its existance
[00:22] <akgraner> [ACTION] - News Team needs to review interview script and give nhandler feedback
[00:22] <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  - News Team needs to review interview script and give nhandler feedback
[00:22]  * sladen arrives, sorry for being late
[00:22] <akgraner> hi sladen no worries - thanks for joining!
[00:23] <akgraner> so there are two more topics do you all want to discuss them now or just add them to the minutes from the meeting as ask for feedback there?
[00:23] <akgraner> I can stick around for about 10 more minutes then I have to run
[00:23] <nhandler> akgraner: It might be best to have them as separate threads on the ML to keep things organized
[00:23] <internalkernel> either way for me
[00:24] <akgraner> nhandler, yep - I'll list the minutes then note for discussion there are separate discussion threads
[00:24] <nhandler> Thanks akgraner.
[00:25] <akgraner> well it is late and we've gone about 30 minutes longer than normal - so here is the big question before we end the meeting
[00:25] <akgraner> who would like to be the 1st rotating publishing editor to publish UWN on Monday
[00:26] <akgraner> (I can help train on Sunday and get it all ready for Monday, but I am traveling for work on Monday)
[00:27] <akgraner> ok - I'll ask in the meeting minutes/notes as well :-)
[00:27] <akgraner> anything else from anyone before we adjourn the meeting?
[00:27] <nhandler> akgraner: I can "publish" monday, but I would not be able to do the actual writing of the sections the editor normaly does for UWN
[00:28] <internalkernel> I'll help do the sections - is there anythign up for Monday yet?
[00:28] <internalkernel> I'll be available on Sunday for working with you akgraner
[00:28] <akgraner> nhandler, awesome! internalkernel nope but I'll get it all set up for everyone
[00:29] <internalkernel> if your gong to be at the wnclug on sat, we can go over some stuff there...
[00:29] <akgraner> internalkernel, I'll see what I can do..
[00:29] <akgraner> Do we need to meet again this month or Just wait til January?
[00:30] <akgraner> (promise my last question)
[00:30] <nhandler> akgraner: Wait until January (we have the holidays). But we might want to try and use the ML a bit more to keep everyone on the same page
[00:30]  * nhandler is at fault there a bit
[00:30] <akgraner> nhandler, agree - I am guilty as well.
[00:31] <akgraner> [TOPIC] Next meeting January 6th, 2011
[00:31] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Next meeting January 6th, 2011
[00:31] <akgraner> who wants to chair the meeting?
[00:32] <nhandler> akgraner: Might be best to sort that out a bit closer to the meeting (things have a habit of coming up last minute for people here)
[00:32] <akgraner> not a problem just wanted everyone to start thinking about it :-)
[00:32] <nhandler> :)
[00:32] <akgraner> ok thanks everyone! Great Meeting!
[00:32] <akgraner> #endmeeting
[00:32] <Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 00:32.
[00:32] <pleia2> thanks akgraner
[00:32] <sladen> ta, and night night
[00:33] <internalkernel> thanks
[00:34] <akgraner> ok I am running away for a while - thanks again everyone and I'll get the minutes and logs out in a couple of hours - family time /homework is in full swing here atm :-)
[11:27] <nUboon2Age> Ubuntu Manual Officially Recognized By Canonical [Updated]; (& Ubuntu Dev Manual too) http://www.muktware.com/n/02/2010/547   akgraner
[11:30] <cjohnston> nUboon2Age: thats not completely correct
[11:30] <nUboon2Age> cjohnston: the article?
[11:31] <nUboon2Age> well the url is there if you want to update the update. :-)  cjohnston
[11:33] <cjohnston> This is Dinda's post: http://dindafoss.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/ubuntu-developer-manual-project/
[11:33] <cjohnston> Was something talked about quite a bit at UDS
[11:35] <nUboon2Age> cjohnston: well the url i gave is the one that popped up in a google news search, so that's the one most people will see, but thank you for the better url
[11:36] <cjohnston> there have been a ton of posts about it.. one of the things I love.. just like the rolling release thing.. people were still posting that ubuntu is going to a rolling release even after sabdfl posted that it isnt
[11:37] <cjohnston> nUboon2Age: she makes it clear in the (current) top comment that it isnt the same
[11:38] <nUboon2Age> yeah, that's the nature of 'news' :-) cjohnston
[11:40] <cjohnston> no sense in us using invalid info tho
[12:35] <nhandler> They updated the article based on popey's comment
[12:51] <akgraner> FYI - working on the email to the list from last nights meeting - I updated the UWN Archives page to reflect which issues weren't published and I'll have the new template up shortly reflecting the issue we should been on. - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Archive
[14:13] <akgraner> whew - information from last night's meeting sent to mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2010-December/001216.html
[14:14] <akgraner> logs from meeting can be found at - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Meetings/20100506/Log
[14:15] <akgraner> template and stuff will be a little while yet... (sorry)
[14:24] <Mirv> hi. first of all maybe in slight bigger letters on fridge.ubuntu.com that "please go to ubuntu-news.org", since the forwarding apparently takes some time
[14:25] <Mirv> secondly, since the news wasn't actually on hold, did my interview got lost or were my answers too poor? :P (mainly pointed at akgraner which I also pinged some time ago)
[14:26] <Mirv> not that it matters that much to me but I did spend some time with writing the answers, of course
[14:31] <akgraner> Mirv - I thought it was posted  - one sec let me check something
[14:36] <akgraner> Mirv, sorry about that  - Joeb454 added it dpm, reviewed it but, no-one (to include me) clicked Publish.  Thank you so much for letting us know.  I am so sorry about that
[15:20] <Mirv> ok, good that it got resolved :P