[00:00] Yep akgraner [00:00] nhandler, that reminds me is your how to contribute to the fridge guide ready to go to the wiki? [00:01] akgraner: I have it on the wiki (link on the agenda). Can we bring up that agenda item? [00:01] I wanted to include a link to the information in the meeting minutes - I am going to send out later tonight [00:01] yep one sec and we will be there :-) [00:01] :) [00:01] [TOPIC] Revising Ubuntu News Team Wiki Pages [00:01] New Topic: Revising Ubuntu News Team Wiki Pages [00:02] so as some of you maybe painfully aware there is a new wiki theme - and as such some of the pages really need a facelift [00:02] also some of the pages haven't been touched since 2008 [00:02] many of the pages need to be consolidated or moved under a different page etc [00:03] while none of the tasks are terrible hard - they are time consuming [00:04] so I was thinking we need 1) a list of pages that need fixing so people can grab a task and just do it and 2) prior to that list being made come up with some sort of guidelines for how we want the team represented on the wikis [00:04] thoughts? [00:04] I must go.. if something comes up that my input is needed (haha) call me [00:05] cjohnston, thank you! and will do! [00:05] akgraner: presumably these are all the pages under and linked to /NewsTeam ? [00:05] One thing that I noticed the other day is that a lot of stuff is clumped under the UWN namespace. I think we definitely need to try and use the NewsTeam namespace as much as possible [00:05] pleia2: We have UWN and Fridge namespaces as well [00:06] * pleia2 nods [00:06] I agree [00:06] I was just getting information on a page when I was updating stuff [00:07] and figure it was easier for someone to change a namespace than create the wiki from scratch [00:07] +1 akgraner [00:07] nhandler, do you have time to work on News Team Wiki generic organization guide? [00:08] so people who like working on wikis can see the suggested guide and know where they need to move stuff etc [00:08] akgraner: I could create a basic guide [00:09] or if someone is adding a page they sorta have a better idea of where something needs to go? Or maybe I am just making it to complicated and we just need a todo list? [00:09] akgraner: Most of it should be self-explanatory, but cleaning up the namespaces (maybe moving Fridge and UWN below NewsTeam might help) [00:10] nhandler, so let's go with an action item for you to cleanup namespaces and then go from there [00:10] (I'll help where I can as well) [00:10] Sounds good (and thanks) [00:11] nhandler, thanks - hope that wasn't a terrible volun-told thing - sorry if it sounded that way [00:11] [ACTION] nhandler to cleanup news team wiki page namespaces [00:11] ACTION received: nhandler to cleanup news team wiki page namespaces [00:12] [TOPIC] - How To Contribute to The Fridge Guide [00:12] New Topic: - How To Contribute to The Fridge Guide [00:12] nhandler, the floor is yours [00:12] :-) [00:13] I copied the draft I had made over to the wiki yesterday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit [00:13] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit [00:13] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit [00:13] We had talked about converting it to be more bullet list like (instead of paragraphs), but I haven't had the time [00:13] It could also use more people looking it over and making corrections/suggestions where necessary [00:14] nhandler, thank you so much for drafting this up. [00:14] So the agenda item was mainly just to toss the link out and ask people to look it over and provide feedback and help make changes [00:14] akgraner: No problem. Thank you and pleia2 for looking it over earlier [00:15] Any comments/questions? [00:15] [ACTION] - News Team needs to review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit and give feedback [00:15] ACTION received: - News Team needs to review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Submit and give feedback [00:16] akgraner: Once it is reviewd, it might be helpful to link to it from the actual fridge [00:16] +1 [00:17] * nhandler has nothing else for this topic tonight [00:17] nhandler, can you email any questions, comments thoughts etc that I need to add to the list for IS about the test site? [00:17] akgraner: Yeah. When are you sending that? [00:18] Shooting for Monday [00:18] is that doable for you? [00:18] I can delay if I need too? [00:18] akgraner: Should be. Just give me a poke over the weekend if I don't have it to you by then [00:18] k thanks! [00:18] If nobody else is around now, or if you want, we can bring some of my other agenda items to the ML [00:19] I'm still here, but ML is fine too [00:19] [TOPIC] - Request for feedback on Interview Script on ubuntu-news.org/future fridge [00:19] New Topic: - Request for feedback on Interview Script on ubuntu-news.org/future fridge [00:19] nhandler, pleia2 yep was going to post these to ML as well :-) [00:19] im here too [00:20] oh sorry internalkernel wasn't trying to leave ya out [00:20] lol... no worries [00:20] The interview script parses https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Interviews for the most recent interview. If it is from a white-listed site, it is posted as a blog post to the fridge and added to http://ubuntu-news.org/interview/ [00:20] One issue I still can't think of a good solution for is dealing with stuff like FCM (that uses a pdf) [00:20] nhandler, so you are needing the team to review this as well right? [00:21] I'd also appreciate some feedback on whether the team thinks this script is useful and if anything should be changed [00:21] akgraner: Yep [00:21] And making them aware of its existance [00:22] [ACTION] - News Team needs to review interview script and give nhandler feedback [00:22] ACTION received: - News Team needs to review interview script and give nhandler feedback [00:22] * sladen arrives, sorry for being late [00:22] hi sladen no worries - thanks for joining! [00:23] so there are two more topics do you all want to discuss them now or just add them to the minutes from the meeting as ask for feedback there? [00:23] I can stick around for about 10 more minutes then I have to run [00:23] akgraner: It might be best to have them as separate threads on the ML to keep things organized [00:23] either way for me [00:24] nhandler, yep - I'll list the minutes then note for discussion there are separate discussion threads [00:24] Thanks akgraner. [00:25] well it is late and we've gone about 30 minutes longer than normal - so here is the big question before we end the meeting [00:25] who would like to be the 1st rotating publishing editor to publish UWN on Monday [00:26] (I can help train on Sunday and get it all ready for Monday, but I am traveling for work on Monday) [00:27] ok - I'll ask in the meeting minutes/notes as well :-) [00:27] anything else from anyone before we adjourn the meeting? [00:27] akgraner: I can "publish" monday, but I would not be able to do the actual writing of the sections the editor normaly does for UWN [00:28] I'll help do the sections - is there anythign up for Monday yet? [00:28] I'll be available on Sunday for working with you akgraner [00:28] nhandler, awesome! internalkernel nope but I'll get it all set up for everyone [00:29] if your gong to be at the wnclug on sat, we can go over some stuff there... [00:29] internalkernel, I'll see what I can do.. [00:29] Do we need to meet again this month or Just wait til January? [00:30] (promise my last question) [00:30] akgraner: Wait until January (we have the holidays). But we might want to try and use the ML a bit more to keep everyone on the same page [00:30] * nhandler is at fault there a bit [00:30] nhandler, agree - I am guilty as well. [00:31] [TOPIC] Next meeting January 6th, 2011 [00:31] New Topic: Next meeting January 6th, 2011 [00:31] who wants to chair the meeting? [00:32] akgraner: Might be best to sort that out a bit closer to the meeting (things have a habit of coming up last minute for people here) [00:32] not a problem just wanted everyone to start thinking about it :-) [00:32] :) [00:32] ok thanks everyone! Great Meeting! [00:32] #endmeeting [00:32] Meeting finished at 00:32. [00:32] thanks akgraner [00:32] ta, and night night [00:33] thanks [00:34] ok I am running away for a while - thanks again everyone and I'll get the minutes and logs out in a couple of hours - family time /homework is in full swing here atm :-) [11:27] Ubuntu Manual Officially Recognized By Canonical [Updated]; (& Ubuntu Dev Manual too) http://www.muktware.com/n/02/2010/547 akgraner [11:30] nUboon2Age: thats not completely correct [11:30] cjohnston: the article? [11:31] well the url is there if you want to update the update. :-) cjohnston [11:33] This is Dinda's post: http://dindafoss.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/ubuntu-developer-manual-project/ [11:33] Was something talked about quite a bit at UDS [11:35] cjohnston: well the url i gave is the one that popped up in a google news search, so that's the one most people will see, but thank you for the better url [11:36] there have been a ton of posts about it.. one of the things I love.. just like the rolling release thing.. people were still posting that ubuntu is going to a rolling release even after sabdfl posted that it isnt [11:37] nUboon2Age: she makes it clear in the (current) top comment that it isnt the same [11:38] yeah, that's the nature of 'news' :-) cjohnston [11:40] no sense in us using invalid info tho [12:35] They updated the article based on popey's comment [12:51] FYI - working on the email to the list from last nights meeting - I updated the UWN Archives page to reflect which issues weren't published and I'll have the new template up shortly reflecting the issue we should been on. - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Archive [14:13] whew - information from last night's meeting sent to mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2010-December/001216.html [14:14] logs from meeting can be found at - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Meetings/20100506/Log [14:15] template and stuff will be a little while yet... (sorry) [14:24] hi. first of all maybe in slight bigger letters on fridge.ubuntu.com that "please go to ubuntu-news.org", since the forwarding apparently takes some time [14:25] secondly, since the news wasn't actually on hold, did my interview got lost or were my answers too poor? :P (mainly pointed at akgraner which I also pinged some time ago) [14:26] not that it matters that much to me but I did spend some time with writing the answers, of course [14:31] Mirv - I thought it was posted - one sec let me check something [14:36] Mirv, sorry about that - Joeb454 added it dpm, reviewed it but, no-one (to include me) clicked Publish. Thank you so much for letting us know. I am so sorry about that [15:20] ok, good that it got resolved :P