| ScottK | Just to pick one trivial example, debdonf doesn't currently support 2.7. | 00:00 |
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| ScottK | That one would be nice to fix before you change the default. | 00:00 |
| cjwatson | I can do that right now if you want | 00:01 |
| cjwatson | though there's a bit of an issue that it fails to build due to a missing MIR | 00:01 |
| ScottK | Sure, but it's just an example of how it's not nearly time to switch. | 00:01 |
| cjwatson | if somebody would like to respond to bug 681000 ... | 00:01 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 681000 in qt4-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qt4-perl (affects: 1) (heat: 505)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681000 | 00:01 |
| ScottK | I've got other work I'd planned for tonight than arguing for at least a rudimentary level of preparation before switching Python defaults. | 00:03 |
| cjwatson | I really don't mind, I just want to get moving. Can we enable 2.7 support tomorrow and aim for switching the default in time for Alpha 2? | 00:06 |
| doko | I'm open for suggestions to delay such a switch for a fixed amount of time if I know that people do work on solutions. But in the current state of development I do accept a certain breakage which can be fixed within days | 00:06 |
| ScottK | 2.7 support is already enabled. | 00:06 |
| doko | I'll upload ~350 rebuilds within the next hour | 00:07 |
| cjwatson | doko: skaet asked to wait for tomorrow | 00:07 |
| cjwatson | you agreed, I thought | 00:07 |
| doko | ahh, ok | 00:07 |
| cjwatson | er, by tomorrow I mean after the release meeting | 00:07 |
| doko | cjwatson: that was with 2.7 as the default, not just adding rebuilds to get support for 2.7. this won't break anything. either the builds succeeds, or not | 00:09 |
| ScottK | cjwatson: I agree that rebuilding with 2.6 default and 2.7 support is safe and sane. | 00:11 |
| ScottK | support/supported | 00:12 |
| cjwatson | doko: no cases where installability might temporarily suffer due to multi-binary packages with Architecture: all and any combined? | 00:13 |
| cjwatson | the reason skaet was asking for a bit of a delay was that some images unexpectedly slipped from alpha-1 and she was contemplating the possibility of releasing them late | 00:14 |
| cjwatson | speaking of which, having another go at building ubuntu-netbook/armel now ... | 00:14 |
| doko | cjwatson: afaik, no. pending build failures on some architectures introduced by the toolchain | 00:14 |
| doko | ok, I'll wait on this one | 00:15 |
| cjwatson | we can probably cope with rebuilds that more-or-less-provably won't cause CD build failures | 00:16 |
| doko | the thing is that CD sizes will increase, and I cannot tell easily which universe package may succeed to build without having the main rebuilds in the archive | 00:17 |
| cjwatson | we're already oversized and not caring about it for alpha-1 | 00:19 |
| doko | I'll just fire up a handful of builds which are known to be built first, I'll delay anything else for later | 00:20 |
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| barry | sorry, i was at dinner. "doing the archive test rebuild with python 2.7 as default" (and getting the results of that before switching to 2.7 as default permanently) was what i meant by "do it" | 01:05 |
| skaet_ | just back from dinner as well. Thanks cjwatson. doko would like to see if we can get an armel image, before things go into high churn mode. | 01:25 |
| * skaet_ just missed doko it appears. | 01:26 | |
| skaet_ | bjf, I think I've synched the links up with the master schedule now. Please let me know if you find others, I'm collecting a list ;) | 01:37 |
| bjf | skaet_, cool, have a good night | 01:51 |
| skaet_ | thanks bjf, you too | 01:51 |
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| cjwatson | ogra,GrueMaster: does http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/20101203/ work? | 10:04 |
| cjwatson | I built that last night just before going to bed | 10:04 |
| rsalveti | it should, but I'm downloading it to test | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | if it does, we can potentially release it and you can have an alpha-1 after all | 10:53 |
| rsalveti | cool, just writing it at the sd card and will report it back in some minutes | 10:56 |
| rsalveti | cjwatson: installed fine here, and I'm now at the efl interface | 11:29 |
| rsalveti | working nicely | 11:29 |
| rsalveti | ogra: the audio worked fine, but just after the second reboot (the first boot, after finishing the installer didn't recognize the sound card) | 11:29 |
| rsalveti | cjwatson: but I believe we can release it as a-1 | 11:30 |
| ScottK | ara: Do you take care of updating ISO test procedures for iso.qa.ubuntu.com? | 11:43 |
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| pitti | are we going to have a release meeting today? | 13:14 |
| skaet_ | pitti, yes | 14:49 |
| skaet_ | There's an agenda up, but probably more important at this stage is to get some understanding of how python2.7 transition is going to happen, and make sure everyone has chance to comment. | 14:52 |
| pitti | skaet_: *nod* | 14:54 |
| cjwatson | skaet_: OK, sounds like we can release that new netbook armel image for alpha-1, if you're OK with that. It looks like I forgot to put it on the tracker - I've done that now so that publish-image-set can see it | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | skaet_: want me to just push it out now? | 15:29 |
| ogra_ac | oh, that would be cool | 15:29 |
| ogra_ac | it looks very good | 15:29 |
| skaet_ | ogra_ac, great. | 15:36 |
| skaet_ | cjwatson, go ahead and push it | 15:36 |
| skaet_ | I'll go in and update the technical overview so it has reference to it again. | 15:36 |
| skaet_ | ogra_ac, any overview information and things to watch out for that should be added? | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | mkdir: cannot create directory `/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-1': No space left on device | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | oh FFS | 15:39 |
| ogra_ac | nothing, it seems to behave identical to the maverick release (even better in some areas) | 15:39 |
| ogra_ac | i havent seen any issues yet | 15:39 |
| * cjwatson nukes the www.prev backup tree | 15:39 | |
| * ScottK makes a note of that acronym for future use. | 15:39 | |
| ogra_ac | you mean "FFS (full free software)" ? | 15:40 |
| ogra_ac | :) | 15:40 |
| * skaet_ needs to figure out that acronym... | 15:40 | |
| pitti | skaet_: for f***'s sake | 15:40 |
| skaet_ | pitti, lol. thanks! | 15:41 |
| pitti | skaet_: I know, not exactly the classical British understatement :) | 15:41 |
| cjwatson | that's OK, I'm not British ;-) | 15:42 |
| cjwatson | (well, I am. kind of. but.) | 15:42 |
| cjwatson | ok, I've pushed that image out now | 15:42 |
| rsalveti | awesome, thanks a lot :-) | 15:43 |
| cjwatson | is there any reason to consider the archive still semi-closed at this point? | 15:43 |
| cjwatson | (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-1/, when it's finished mirroring) | 15:43 |
| pitti | cjwatson: oh, do we? | 15:43 |
| cjwatson | well, I was avoiding syncs and the like in case we needed to respin late images. but I think that's pretty unlikely at this point, right? | 15:44 |
| pitti | I saw the "released" and threw a lot of rebuilds against the archive (mostly for space reduction, but also some bug fixes) | 15:44 |
| ScottK | cjwatson: It would, however, to be nice to avoid the now almost traditional post-milestone that breaks the archive just as most everyone who could do something about it vanishes for the weekend. | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | yeah, keeping the archive semi-closed is more or less impossible :) | 15:44 |
| pitti | and #u-devel topic said "open", so sorry if that was premature | 15:44 |
| ScottK | post-milestone upload ... | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html is looking basically no worse than just before the alpha | 15:46 |
| GrueMaster | cjwatson: I am just now waking up, and I have a meeting downtown in an hour, so I won't be able to do any testing on the image until later today. | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | GrueMaster: rsalveti has run it through and declared it OK, so I released it | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | (on top of the ad-hoc testing from yesterday) | 15:49 |
| apw | skaet_, i assume the milestone freeze came off today ? | 18:45 |
| ScottK | It did | 18:46 |
| apw | ScottK, thanks | 18:49 |
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