[00:01] pleia2: we even have a launchpad project for it: https://launchpad.net/logo-ubuntu-us-tn [00:01] nice [00:02] pleia2: with several other color combinations [00:02] pleia2: is that the kind of thing that might go on a loco approval application? [00:02] sure :) [00:03] nice [00:03] i'm out of here... will be back for the meeting [00:08] welp, I missed the last meeting but I am here for this one, sooo.. yeah.. :) [00:40] Good evening all! [00:42] yo! [01:02] What's up with the meeting? [01:04] And also how goes Kurisu_Yamato? [01:06] Hello pace_t_zulu [01:06] hey jfenn2199 [01:06] apologies for being late [01:06] I'm good. Gaming in and out while I wait for the meetup. [01:06] had a shelving emergency [01:07] who's here jfenn2199 and Kurisu_Yamato ? [01:07] anyone else? [01:07] cyberanger wrst netritious ping [01:07] Not that I've seen yet just got in on andChat [01:07] o/ [01:08] :\ [01:08] hello Svpernova09 [01:08] we've got 4 [01:08] we can give it 7 more minutes i suppose [01:09] Sounds good I'm at work right now so if I don't immediately respond that's why [01:10] Also next wed nigt I'll be in Nash again [01:14] chris4585 Dan9186[MM] electricus elijah-mbp Juzzy xTEMPLARx ping [01:15] hey hey [01:15] #startmeeting [01:15] Meeting started at 19:15. The chair is pace_t_zulu. [01:15] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [01:15] sorry, have been working on a customer issue in the background. [01:15] o/ [01:15] who is here? jfenn2199 Svpernova09 Kurisu_Yamato ping [01:15] aye [01:16] I'm still here, ready and waiting [01:16] Yep! [01:16] yep [01:18] 5 of us here... [01:18] better turnout than usual [01:18] anyone have a topic they'd like to discuss? [01:18] Well I actually had an early shift at work, so I was able to show up, for once. [01:18] Kurisu_Yamato: glad you could join [01:18] So when is the date this month for the loco council? [01:19] jfenn2199: i was under the impression that it was last month [01:19] I talked to cyberanger and he said that we postponed it to this month [01:19] i didn't get that memo [01:20] [link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam/ApprovalApplication [01:20] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam/ApprovalApplication [01:21] [topic]LoCo Approval Application [01:21] New Topic: LoCo Approval Application [01:21] [link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved [01:21] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved [01:21] [link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoExampleApplication [01:21] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoExampleApplication [01:24] anyone out there? [01:24] yeah, was reading first link [01:25] Svpernova09: :) [01:25] Yeah, I read it as well. [01:25] Svpernova09 Kurisu_Yamato +1 [01:25] [idea]add our team logo to the approval application [01:25] IDEA received: add our team logo to the approval application [01:26] Due to my lack of transportation, I can be at very few, if any events (havnt been to a GOLUM meeting ever, tho I want to, and its not even that far away). Well, that and my work schedule, but I am very active in places I physically am, to try to show off Ubuntu, and Linux as a whole, to anyone who may have use for it. [01:26] as per http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2010/12/03/%23ubuntu-us-tn.html [01:26] Kurisu_Yamato: where is that place? ... that you are physically [01:27] Memphis [01:28] Kurisu_Yamato: that's the best place to be in the state right now so far as the loco goes [01:28] anyone else here in nashville [01:29] Yeah, so I have noticed. I only live maybe 3-4 miles away from where the GOLUM meetings are, but I just can never get there. [01:29] Has anyone from the loco contacted HackerConsortium about getting involved? HC is Nashville's hackerspace [01:29] from the loco in Nashville* [01:29] Svpernova09: i am unfamiliar with hackerconsortium [01:29] oh snap [01:30] i will definitely look into that... [01:30] http://www.hackerconsortium.com/ [01:30] LINK received: http://www.hackerconsortium.com/ [01:30] #hackerconsortium here on Freenode [01:30] [link]http://www.hackerconsortium.com/location.php [01:30] LINK received: http://www.hackerconsortium.com/location.php [01:31] I think the people involved with GOLUM are pretty well aware of this group as well [01:31] Dan9186[MM] and I have also talked about this group at MidsothMakers meetings [01:32] Svpernova09: big thank you for that [01:32] Since a large part of MM seem to be tech / geek types that are either already involved with linux, or interested in it [01:32] We've done the same in the memphis 2600 meetings, which lately are largely just the MM group. [01:33] There is also discussion on the GOLUM list about a possible installfest [01:34] When that comes around I plan to try to show off my proxmox machine running multiple ubuntu VMs [01:36] MM? [01:36] midsouthmakers, the memphis group establishing a hackerspace here [01:36] This is the first I have heard of many of these groups. Haha. [01:36] www.midsouthmakers.org [01:36] www.golum.org [01:36] I'm here for literally 60 secs...got something boiling on the stove [01:37] Ah, don't worry, I was able to find the sites easily, google is always your friend, after all. [01:37] o/ netritious [01:37] But I do appreciate the linkage. [01:45] Svpernova09: really good job bringing that up [01:46] So,random topic of interest, due to windows just refusing to re-install properly on my girlfriends laptop, she has switched to Ubuntu, and for a few months now has had nothing but good experiences, while the rest of her family is re-installing windows every few months because someone messes up the machines. Her only problem is she cannot run a game I make, because it is currently windows only. [01:46] nice [01:47] As for me, while yes, I am on my windows machine now, I do have a dedicated linux box, as well as a netbook that dual boots between 10.10 and winXP. Also a near-dead laptop I keep plugged in running 10.4 for special purposes (usually data processing at home, etc). Just setting the tone on my end. [01:47] Kurisu_Yamato: +1 [01:48] Kurisu_Yamato: what game are you making? [01:49] I have a custom game based on the Stepmania game engine (basically, it's a dance game ala DDR) : while that does have linux branches, and is open source, I currently have not been able to get my source to compile in Linux, but in all fairness, I haven't really tried too hard. [01:50] Gaming would be my main hobby, so yeah... [01:52] Kurisu_Yamato: is your game open source? [01:53] My branch is not: however, I have shared my code mods with other groups on their own branches, but my full source in and of itself is closed. It is due to my release model in this particular instance: I do have another branch in the works that would be just the engine itself, without some security code, for public release. [01:54] next loco council meeting is December 21st [01:55] [topic]next loco council meeting is December 21st [01:55] New Topic: next loco council meeting is December 21st [01:57] anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? [01:58] not I [01:58] newp [01:58] i motion to adjourn [01:58] anyone second that motion? [01:59] I second. [01:59] 2nded [01:59] thank you [01:59] #endmeeting [01:59] Meeting finished at 19:59. [01:59] dinner is on the table [01:59] later y'all [01:59] We all seemed to have a solid time, and I got a chance to see just how the group is. [01:59] Sorry about that I had to go input an order [02:00] it appears that i am late for the meeting [02:01] elijah-mbp: yes baby in march [02:01] wrst: awesome, ours is due april 16th. [02:01] cool elijah-mbp [02:01] the wife has gone nuts on getting things ready before christmas, have you experienced thatyet? [02:04] Take it easy every one [02:05] ppb1701: hello! [02:06] nope - though we do have our crib/changing table and mattress here waiting for me to put them together. [02:06] Turkey is so easy to cook with a real roasting pan [02:06] ah yes ours arived in cookeville today but i'm going to go do that saturday [02:06] i think the trick is that this is my first kid but not her first kid. so she's not nuts. [02:06] did i get here in time for cooking with netritious? [02:06] though - we have a friend who is on kid #4 and still nuts every time. [02:07] ha ha elijah-mbp well we are both crazy [02:07] kid 4??? yeah that would make me nuts :) [02:07] hehe nope...just finished inhaling it wrst :D [02:07] cool did you cook a complete turkey? [02:07] yeah [02:07] thanksgiving just wasn't enough netritious? :) [02:08] since we go all over town for actual thanksgiving holiday, we do ours when the turkey goes on sale ;) [02:08] y, same here [02:08] (re: being nuts already) [02:08] discount turkey!!! woot netritious [02:08] my wife scored a butterball for $8 at krogers this past Sat [02:08] wow that sounds very cheap [02:08] 18 lbs [02:08] can feed a lot of mouths for 8 bucks [02:08] whoops 15lbs [02:09] lol my family got a 27 pounder [02:09] that is a big arse turkey chris4585! [02:09] it certainly was [02:11] yes steroids on top of steroids for that gobbler [02:13] hello [02:15] hey [02:18] sleepiness starting to kick in already even with a healthy portion (not a gluttonous one) [02:18] cya guys later [02:18] later [02:40] Svpernova09: promoting the groups (ubuntu-us-tn included)? [02:41] trying :_D [07:25] * cyberanger hates it when annoying issues get in the way of his fun [13:31] cyberanger: i prefer this over facebook it hink :) [13:32] I prefer IRC and XMPP too ;-) [13:32] :) i had forgotten i had facebook up [13:33] * cyberanger wonders why these past few meetings my day turns to hell and gets in the way [13:34] <3 irc o/ [13:37] jfenn2199 covered the main issue, that I overshot the deadline last month for the applacation, opps [13:38] and everyone covered event planning, branching out more [13:39] I'm working on Computer Gaming with Chattacon again, allways try to use that as an event for us, 3rd year I know of xubuntu being used (I wish to change that to lubuntu if I can, the installs are old, the machines are too) [13:39] so, things are moving strong it'd sound like, from the logs [13:42] well, off to the future, a new day [13:42] bbl [17:01] o/ [17:01] howdy locotn [17:02] hows it goin [17:02] what is the best device and service if you want an android based phone for tethering? [17:02] purty good Svpernova09...tired [17:03] You can tether to sprint for $30? I think a month. Free if you root froyo. [17:03] I'm too chicken to root my Evo though :_) [17:04] I hear ya [17:04] buddy of mine just called asking [17:05] AT&T is telling him an additional $75 a month for tethering [17:10] checking sprint again [17:12] hmm I dunno [18:00] hello netritious, Svpernova09 [18:01] p/ [18:02] o/ rather [18:03] hey wrst how's it goin'? [18:03] good netritious [18:03] you? [18:04] I feel tired but I shouldn't, otherwise doing well [18:06] netritious: you may need a nap? [18:07] maybe :) [18:27] ha ha you should go for it! [18:33] hey netritious [18:33] for tethering, best device for what network [18:34] t-mobile says they'll charge, but if you get the plan prior to then, you'll be grandfathered in, supposedly, they have yet to cap [18:35] well, a 10gb soft cap, where it's just slow after that [18:35] the T-Mobile G2 has the update, saved my butt twice already, in less than a month [18:36] (I've owned it for a month and a half) [18:36] the additional fee is supposed to be 30 bucks, if they do charge [18:36] and you can get it sans contract also [18:37] oh, and 4g in memphis [18:37] (well, marketing 4g, the technical term atm is 3.9G) [18:38] There's definetely no 4g in Memphis. [18:38] nashville and knoxville might by now, they are on the drawing board (and I speculate chattanooga will, sooner or later, due to a fairly big call center) [18:38] Svpernova09: with T-Mobile? [18:38] oh sorry. [18:38] Was stuck in sprint mode [18:39] yeah, no Clear WiMax = no sprint 4g [18:40] but I know t-mobile's wired for it, their gear has the updates [18:41] their site says it's there, only question is throwing a switch [18:41] cool thanks for the info cyberanger, Svpernova09 [18:41] back in august it appeared they had, when I drove through [18:42] netritious: T-Mobile might change, but they have a good history on grandfathering old policies, no charge atm, even with the current pending change, they'll be the cheapest and 4g to boot [18:43] are their android phones unlocked? [18:44] oh, and rooting the G2 isnt that bad [18:44] sim subisidy lock, have an account in good standing for 40 days and they'll remove it [18:44] mine is now unlocked [18:45] they may remove it if you buy it outright too [18:45] but by default no [18:47] you can buy a HTC Desire Z unlocked (2gb less storage is the only difference with the T-Mobile G2, G2 has 4gb, Desire Z has 2Gb) [18:47] and an Mini SD card makes that moot [18:49] so there are ways to get an android phone unlocked and working on t-mo, and they have no policy against it, unlike AT&T and the iphone [18:49] netritious: are you wanting to buy one unlocked? [18:50] I wouldn't mind one, but it is for a friend that is not technically savvy [18:50] rephrasing, must the phone be unlocked? [18:51] no was just curious [18:51] ah [18:52] is it the G2 that has the built-in wifi router to allow say a laptop with wifi to connect and share the data connection? [18:53] I was gonna say, that's easy to work with, all my GSM phones (minus one, I don't like it, waiting on a request to unlock and then sell) are unlocked [18:53] and I know how to get them unlocked or buy them that way (legally) [18:54] the G2 has USB tethering and can be a wifi AP [18:54] most froyo devices can do that actually [18:57] netritious: wifi ap = yes [18:58] and it can be secured with wpa2 (or protected from avg joe with wpa or wep) have it's ssid changed too [18:58] so "tethering" becomes unnecessary? [18:58] I think you can choose the channel, but I'm not certain [18:59] tethering with a cable, usb cable [18:59] not needed, but still good to support [18:59] kinda hard to hack wifi when ther isn't any [19:00] and it allowed me to use my G2 as a wifi card (faster data) for half a week while my laptop card was in limbo [19:05] I'm wondering if the phone couldn't be used as a wifi AP and any client connected to the AP is routed through the phone's 3G/4G connection versus the phone being a wifi client AND a wifi AP [19:07] Imagine you are in a car driving around and no wifi hotspots are accessible but need internet access and don't want to bother with wires...that's what I'm getting at [19:08] more specifiaclly your laptop needs internet access and you have a phone capable of providing a wifi ap [19:08] but there is no "upstream" wifi provider...will the 3G/4G cellular data connection be used? [19:09] client and ap, but not at the same time [19:09] ap will run over celluar data [19:10] usb tethering can run over wifi and celluar, if both, wifi is used [19:11] when wifi is in master mode, it cannot also be in client mode, so it insures it [19:11] so the phone in wifi ap mode will or will not (or can or can not) route packets thru the 3G data connection on behalf of the phone's wifi clients? [19:11] will be celluar data or no data [19:11] depending on settings and coverage (you can turn off data in froyo, useful for prepaid) [19:12] laptop->phone in wifi AP mode->3G <-- possible? [19:12] laptop > phone in ap mode = celluar [19:12] ah [19:12] celluar could be slower than 3g or faster [19:13] t-mobile in your area could be 4g [19:13] yeah I get that...it's more about is it possible [19:13] yes, I've done it [19:13] 4G is not available here [19:13] yet [19:13] in memphis, or your area of it? [19:13] in Memphis 4G is not available according to T-Mobile's web site [19:14] only in Nashville [19:14] brb [19:17] their site lists plans for nashville [19:17] http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/hspa-mobile-broadband [19:18] knoxville was planning, they brought it up last month it seems [19:18] and on that list is memphis, one of the first [19:21] (they use the word hspa, idk if that's 3g or 4g or both (depending on the backend) I suspect both, in a way, hspa is 3g and hspa+ is 4g, since I've been on hspa in chattanooga, and hspa+ in knoxville and memphis [19:23] owning the G2 and pulling up it's status page is kinda the only clear way to know [19:23] that and a speed test [19:44] back === pace_t_zulu changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-tn to: Next Meeting Jan. 6th at 8 PM EDT/7 PM CDT | Welcome to the Ubuntu Tennessee Team IRC Channel | Members add your info http://tr.im/nogt | Ask about our Wiki Jams [19:45] either way it's all good [19:45] hey pace_t_zulu [19:45] I actually didn;t postpone the applacation as much as overshot the deadline [19:45] if it will allow 3G routes to wifi ap connected clients then that's what I was curious about [19:45] hi pace_t_zulu [19:46] but, netritious all celluar data [19:46] and that's fine for what my buddy wants to do [19:46] hey cyberanger netritious [19:49] pace_t_zulu: the only thing that the meeting didn't cover is we've got a member going to support some xubuntu machines, my 3rd year doing it [19:49] at chattacon [19:49] cyberanger: i was unaware... it was not communicated to me [19:49] netritious: yeah, it'll do what's needed, and much much more [19:49] cyberanger: we didn't have an agenda ahead of the meeting [19:50] I metioned it when you and jfenn was here, not the chattacon bit (was just an announcement, could wait till january or a mailing post) [19:51] the other part was just continue maintaining our applacation, and apply this month (that I thought I told everyone, coulda sworn jfenn2199 and you were both told at the same time) [19:51] i didn't here that [19:51] but we did mention it during the meeting [19:52] next loco council meeting is dec 21st ... i made a point of mentioning that during the meeting [19:52] cyberanger: have you seen the log from the meeting? i just posted the mootbot stuff on the wiki [19:52] cyberanger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam/Meeting [19:52] so it's fine, the two things that I had were just an announcement (saw that in the logs, coulda sworn I did, but I guess I missed you somehow) [19:53] yeah, read them from my client's logs as soon as I got back, about 2am [19:54] past 2 days days were lousy, interferred with this meeting, rather frustrating, read the logs and slept [19:54] chaos [19:56] next month should be better, at least I should be out of town, away from these issues [19:56] extremely good meeting I thought [19:56] looks like alot happened [20:01] pace_t_zulu: I hadn't though of hackerspaces (partly cause we don't have one here, then 4 more are about tied, 2 more in ga, one in alabama, one in nashville [20:05] pace_t_zulu: I'm sorry I didn't inform you when it happend (idk why I thought I did, maybe I just metioned it in channel and you were idling, maybe I just mistakely thought I did, idk) [20:07] they had a deadline of three days prior to the meeting, I worked on it a little then and another day, thinking I had another day, two days before the meeting [20:07] messed things up [20:56] cyberanger: ping [20:56] cyberanger: we can add our ubuntu-tennessee.org and our logo to the approval application [21:01] ok [21:01] I'll have to add that from a better browser, not a mobile one [22:58] w00t! My new laptop upgraded from 1 GB ddr2/60 GB hdd to 4 GB ddr2/500 GB hdd!!! [22:59] haven't performed extended diag on the drive or the ram but feel pretty good about it [23:02] will start the looooong process of installing everything I need tonight...XP/7/10.04 [23:03] also got a little usb dongle that provides RS323 (DB9) serial connection so I can finally connect via serial console again [23:04] now to get ready for my first ever Father-Daughter dance! Been a pretty good Friday so far.. [23:04] have a good one too you guys and gals...l8r