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RAOFOh, balls.  Nouveau's gained DRI2 vsync support, and it looks like it's going to crash in *exactly* the same way intel's and then radeon's did.05:21
hyperairintel's vsync crashed?05:22
RAOFYeah, on client close.05:23
RAOFBecause DRI2 buffers aren't reference counted, and get destroyed on client close, and the vsync event can occur after the request is queued and the client shutdown...05:25
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brycehRAOF, heh phoronix thinks you should enable gallium 3d for nouveau08:41
jcristauwait what?  phoronix thinks?09:33
brycehjcristau, I'm trying to figure out how to merge the words "phoronix" and "paparazzi"10:25
Ngpaphonorazzix!11:15
tjaalton"phoronazzi" ?-)11:15
Ngif in doubt, smush things together with as much force as possible ;)11:15
jcristautjaalton: sounds a bit too much like nazi11:15
brycehheh11:15
tjaaltonjcristau: meh :)11:16
brycehit's harder than it seems it should be11:23
brycehphopronozzi is best I've come up with but it has prono in it11:26
jcristaumaybe that's a good thing.  pr0n is good for page hits.11:27
brycehlol11:27
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Sarvattapw: ok there's more to it, every other boot with gfxpayload=keep is screwed in grub space still, it's stuck before the kernel selection screen16:12
apwSarvatt, i don't see that behaviour on any of my kit, i always get to a kernel before things go wrong16:13
apwnot that it supprised me there is some h/w which gets broken16:13
Sarvattsheesh, moving drm.so out of the way isn't helping anymore either, I guess it's just really racy and I got lucky because it was doing a fsck that one time. almost done building an i386  kernel with Sanitize modesetting registers.(v2)16:32
Sarvatthtop is fun on tangerine.buildd, guess you need 2560x1600 to use it with 64 cores :)16:36
Sarvattargh16:56
Sarvattapw: If I cold boot Sanitize modesetting registers.(v2) fixes it every time, 11 boots that way worked perfect16:56
Sarvattapw: but if I reboot instead, it hangs at GRUB loading.16:57
apwhrm16:57
apw(v2) ?16:57
Sarvattyeah from your bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3207816:57
ubot4`Freedesktop bug 32078 in DRM/Intel "Intel N10 graphics does not initialise correctly if GRUB hands off the display in a graphics mode" [Major,New]16:57
apwSarvatt, damn i'd started the previous one building and been on the release meeting ... and16:58
* apw restarts his build ... gah16:59
Sarvattcan you grab it from /home/sarvatt on tangerine?17:00
apwSarvatt, its nearly built again now anyhow ... but thanks17:05
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Sarvatti'm totally stumped now, cold boot with that patch for sure works right but a reboot hangs in grub every time17:18
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Sarvattusing vesafb sure does make VT's suck on the blobs17:49
Sarvattapw: I haven't heard any complaining about radeon yet, with intel fixed maybe this will work this cycle :)18:07
apwSarvatt, the vesafb stuff looooks _sooo_ bad :)18:07
apwbut yeah there is some hope perhaps18:07
Sarvattyeah wish we could kill it in a fire, I know I'll still be disabling it on all my systems by booting with vesafb.sucks=1 :)18:08
Sarvattit's not like it helps that much even with the blobs since they turn off the display when X starts unconditionally, I see the splash for all of 1 second18:09
Sarvatttext plugin progress dots loaded in the initramfs early for everyone looks best to me :) it's just the Ubuntu 10.10 words that look like crap in text mode18:11
Sarvattwell the Ubuntu 10.10 text looks nice on a drmfb at native res, but crappy on 80x2518:13
apwSarvatt, hehe yeah sometimes i wonder if that would be a better plan overall18:19
Sarvatthmm, if i boot an old kernel (2.6.35-23) then grub works after a reboot, if i boot 2.6.37-7-generic with or without that patch grub hangs after a reboot every time. 18:34
Sarvatt2.6.37-5 hangs18:34
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Sarvatt2.6.36-1 is the last good kernel that reboots right, fun18:38
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brycehSarvatt, have you tried any backports of -intel to maverick?  Is it at all feasible?18:42
Sarvattyeah just needs a newer xutils-dev, lowered of the xserver-xorg-dev build-dep to 1.9.0 and a natty libdrm backport18:43
Sarvattwant me to put it in x-updates while i'm bisecting?18:43
brycehSarvatt, yes that would be great18:45
brycehSarvatt, I'm thinking it might help on bug 68271218:45
ubot4`Launchpad bug 682712 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "x server crashes with: [drm:i915_gem_mmap_gtt_ioctl] *ERROR* Attempting to mmap a purgeable buffer (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68271218:45
Sarvattbut thats lucid?18:46
brycehsome of the reporters mention maverick18:46
brycehalthough they may be seeing different bugs18:46
Sarvattit fixes all of these https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/62696718:47
ubot4`Launchpad bug 626967 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[arrandale] GPU lockup 85a8ad2d (IPEHR: 0x01820000) (affects: 8) (dups: 20) (heat: 120)" [Medium,Confirmed]18:47
brycehSarvatt, that's a real good sign18:47
Sarvattwhich was fixed by http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=a44a63d2ff6c01c3dc61de6f736dd441ddd25e5218:47
brycehooh18:47
brycehSarvatt, well, a maverick build of that driver would probably help move things forward18:48
brycehif that works for the maverick folks, then if apw still needs it on lucid maybe we can look at building it for that too18:48
brycehSarvatt, is that worth considering backporting to maverick?18:52
Sarvattyes very much so just haven't had a chance to do it18:54
Sarvattapw: oh fun, it looks like some ubuntu specific patch is breaking the boot on this netbook. mainline 2.6.37-rc3 can reboot fine, 2.6.36-1 is the last ubuntu kernel that can reboot18:59
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Sarvattahh didn't try 2.6.37-2 or 2.6.37-3, whoops. 2.6.36-1.7 is good though19:01
Sarvattbingo, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2010-November/001282.html broke reboot for me19:16
Sarvattah darnit, 2.6.37-4.12 was broken that time, booted the wrong one19:19
Sarvattyep 2.6.37-3.11 is bad, 2.6.37-2.10 is good19:20
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jewsucanusehey sarvatt, is alpha broken on the stable intel/mesa bits for natty?19:42
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Sarvattnot on mine, booting is broken without disabling gfxpayload=keep in grub here though19:44
jewsucanusesarvatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/539524/19:49
jewsucanusewhite boxes and everything19:49
jewsucanusei945gm19:49
Sarvatthave you ever had the touhou game working in wine?19:50
Sarvattbecause i never have had any of them working19:50
jewsucanuseyes.19:50
Sarvattas far back as jaunty19:50
jewsucanuseif you have dx9 libs installed19:50
jewsucanusewhere are glx settings stored?19:52
Sarvattany idea where it stopped working? did it work in maverick?19:53
jewsucanuseyeah19:53
jewsucanusecould i downpin to maverick for drivers?19:53
Sarvatthave you tried changing the orm= options in winetricks to see if it works in one of the others by any chance?19:54
jewsucanuseyeah19:55
jewsucanusebackbuffer loads faster19:55
jewsucanusestill white boxes19:55
jewsucanuseno textures whatsoever19:56
jewsucanusewine 1.3.819:56
jewsucanuseglxgears is fine though19:57
jewsucanuselemme try 1.219:57
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Sarvattwhat gpu do you have? I can try it with a few mesa versions if its a 94520:04
Sarvatt[#Comiket](C78) Yousei Daisensou - Touhou 12.8 Sangessei - The Great Fairy Wars.zip ? using an english patch?20:04
jewsucanuseyeah20:04
jewsucanuse00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])20:06
jewsucanuseneed vendor id?20:06
Sarvattnope, perfect20:07
Sarvattgrabbing Great Fairy Wars English Patch v1.120:07
jewsucanusejapanese version is messed up too20:10
jewsucanusedoesn't really matter20:10
jewsucanusebtw, brb restarting x20:13
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Sarvattjewsucanuse: well, works out of the box with wine 1.3.8 and mesa 7.10 from git, hm20:15
Sarvattheh outside of unity being screwed up http://sarvatt.com/downloads/Screenshot.png20:16
Sarvattoh I take that back, I'm using mesa from the archives20:17
erapplemanunity is a mess right now. it can't handle video player windows right.20:17
Sarvatt7.9+repack-1ubuntu320:17
erapplemanthey creep upwards.20:17
Sarvattthis is a 945GSE, it's the same gpu to mesa's eyes20:17
Sarvatt i have no dx overrides and no non standard config changes20:18
Sarvattdo I have to go into the actual game to have it screw up?20:18
erapplemanno20:18
erapplemanlemme screenie20:19
Sarvattmenus are fine, i'd put it down to a wine config problem20:19
erapplemani cleared the configs20:19
erapplemanwinetricks and wine20:19
Sarvatterappleman: do you have vertex shader support on none and unchecked allow pixel shader too?20:20
Sarvattmine's set to vista also20:20
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erapplemaneverything's default20:21
erapplemanhttp://img593.imageshack.us/img593/5980/screenshotyouseidaisens.png20:21
Sarvatthttp://pastebin.com/fCibRJ7620:21
Sarvatthmm20:22
Sarvatti've got an idea20:22
Sarvattwget -O ~/.drirc http://sarvatt.com/downloads/drirc.txt20:23
erapplemandriconf it?20:23
Sarvattdriconf cant adjust vblank_mode for dri2, gotta do it manualy20:23
Sarvattvblank_mode enabled screwed up with white screens like that with clutter apps for me sometimes and i'm using that, just a long shot20:24
erapplemandri2 on screen 0?20:24
erapplemanor should it be i915?20:25
Sarvattneeds to be dri220:25
Sarvattdriconf only adjusts the i915 driver and it doesn't work unless its for the dri2 driver20:25
erapplemanDriver "dri2" is not installed or does not support configuration.20:26
Sarvattsave your ~/.drirc and overwrite it with that one and move it back later if anything20:26
Sarvattyou adjust other things in there? that could screw it up too20:27
* Sarvatt tries to screw it up20:27
Sarvatthmm it doesn't fullscreen for you?20:28
erapplemanit does20:29
erapplemandri2 is my only drirc entry. doesn't fix it.20:30
Sarvattthis is slow as heck on this netbook20:30
Sarvattyou have window borders in that screenshot is why i was asking, theres a checkbox I can't read because no jp support in wine on this thing, maybe that toggles fullscreen20:30
erappleman1st option20:31
erapplemanlemme try edgers20:36
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erapplemando i sudo driconf?20:38
Sarvattnope that'd only change settings for root and running wine as root screws everything up20:40
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Sarvattdarn gnome classic session is all kinds of screwed up, gnome-panel segfaulting on start20:47
erapplemanunity: fixing what isn't broken20:48
brycehSarvatt, kees was complaining about that yesterday20:49
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Sarvatterappleman: yeah outside of being horribly slow on an atom cpu it's working fine here with stock natty packages outside of wine 1.3.8 even windowed, I'm stumped20:54
Sarvattthe error spam from wine is a red herring, I get it all even though it works20:55
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erapplemanwell, what i'm seeing is what i see whenever alpha channel is broken in the drivers yet doesn't always affect the gnome environment20:56
Sarvattahh enabling stub ARB_occlusion_query and ARB_fragment_shader support trying to break it is what killed the speed20:59
erapplemanlemme try the windows world of goo demo20:59
erapplemandoesn't that force glsl on 945gm?20:59
Sarvattyea20:59
Sarvattwas trying to screw with options to get it to mess up20:59
Sarvattthanks for giving me an excuse to play touhou at work btw :)21:00
erapplemanworld of goo is screwed up too21:00
erapplemanlemme see native linu21:00
Sarvattworld of goo native is fine here21:01
erapplemannative is fine here too21:01
erapplemangoo on wine isn't21:02
Sarvatthmm, you on amd64?21:02
brycehhmm, the wayland mesa fails to build on natty21:02
erapplemani68621:03
Sarvattjust a thought that you have old mesa in ia32-libs21:03
Sarvattdarn21:03
brycehnouveau_context.c:132:9: error: too many arguments to function 'nouveau_channel_alloc'21:03
bryceh/usr/include/nouveau/nouveau_channel.h:51:1: note: declared here21:03
brycehmake[7]: *** [nouveau_context.o] Error 121:03
brycehhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/60063332/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.mesa_7.10.0%2Bgit20101118.3dcc3153-0ubuntu1~bryce9~natty_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz21:03
Sarvattyeah need git libdrm21:03
brycehlook familiar to anyone?  21:03
erapplemani need the git?21:03
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Sarvattnatty libdrm doesn't have the nouveau stuff from post 2.4.2221:03
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bryceh2.4.22+git20101127.1443bea4-0ubuntu0sarvatt  new enough?21:03
Sarvatterappleman: was talking to bryce sorry21:03
erapplemanah21:03
Sarvattbryceh: yeah21:04
Sarvattthat already in there?21:04
brycehok thanks21:04
brycehI happened to copy it in while waiting for mesa to build :-P21:04
erapplemanwhat's making nouveau 3d still a no-go? i know it wasn't ready for lucid or maverick, but why not natty?21:04
bryceherappleman, upstream is not yet supporting it (no bug reports)21:06
bryceherappleman, as well, it feels like something that's going to have a lot of weird random bugs for oddball hardware or strange corner cases, and we're not sure the group of us have the skillz/time for solving them21:07
erapplemanloldebian21:07
bryceherappleman, huh?21:07
erapplemanisn't debian our upstream?21:07
bryceherappleman, nouveau upstream at fdo21:08
erapplemanoh21:08
brycehfor Xorg the debian guys prefer us to work directly with X.org upstream if it's issues unrelated to just packaging21:09
erapplemanah. sarvatt.21:18
erapplemandx7 works21:18
erapplemannot dx8 or dx921:18
Sarvatthow are you changing dx modes?21:19
erapplemandxdiag in wine21:19
erapplemanBINGO21:21
erapplemandowngraded wine to 1.0.x21:21
erapplemannice.21:21
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Sarvattbryceh: ok intel in x-updates, sorry that took so long21:28
brycehSarvatt, awesome thanks21:31
erapplemanthanks sarvatt21:33
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AzelphurHi I'm having a problem with X crashes, I recently replaced my nvidia 6600GT with a 9500GT, now X has started crashing. I followed the Obtaining backtraces instructions and got a backtrace, which is here http://azelphur.com/crashlog.txt.zip22:29
AzelphurI had to zip it because it's a pretty large backtrace (17MB)22:29
AzelphurIt looks like libarecord is doing something crazy and recursive that's causing X to crash :s22:30
SarvattAzelphur: guessing you were using nvidia-173 for the 6600GT and left it installed when you switched?22:42
AzelphurI did originally, then I uninstalled anything to do with nvidia and reinstalled using jockey to ensure I had the right driver22:42
Sarvattcan ya pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log of it trying to start up?22:43
Azelphuroh hey, I do have nvidia-173-modaliases22:43
AzelphurSarvatt: sorry, it does start up, it just crashes after a few hours22:43
Sarvattthats ok, modaliases are needed for jockey to work22:43
Sarvattah22:43
Sarvattwhat version is the nvidia driver and what ubuntu release are you using?22:44
Azelphureven if the machine is left idle it'll crash all by itself, so I don't think there's anything I'm doing to trigger the crash22:44
Sarvattit could be a ton of things, there should be some trace of the crash in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old22:44
AzelphurI'm using maverick (specifically mythbuntu) and I'm using nvidia-glx-18522:44
AzelphurSarvatt: yea, I checked there and there's literally nothing, which makes it weird22:45
AzelphurI can only guess that X is crashing before it has a chance to write anything to the log file22:45
Azelphurwell not literally nothing, but nothing related to the crash22:45
Sarvatthow does it crash?22:46
Sarvattscreen go blank and not come back? does X restart?22:46
AzelphurX restarts, so I end up at the login screen22:46
Sarvattthere should definitely be something in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old when that happens, hmm22:47
Azelphurhttp://pastebin.com/WFiVW0eM22:48
AzelphurI don't see anything :(22:48
Sarvattcan ya cat /var/log/Xorg.*.log | pastebinit22:48
Sarvatterr wait22:48
Azelphurhaha, beat you to it22:48
Sarvattcat /var/log/Xorg* | pastebinit22:48
Azelphurpastebin above is that22:49
Sarvattmaybe its /var/log/Xorg.1.log.old or something22:49
Azelphuryea, I did Xorg*22:49
Sarvattoh hmm22:49
brycehlook in /var/log/gdm22:49
Azelphurbryceh: there's a lot of files in there, anything in particular?22:50
Sarvattsudo cat /var/log/gdm/:0* | pastebinit ?22:50
Azelphurhttp://pastebin.com/j29tsTbQ22:51
brycehAzelphur, usually can pick it out by last change timestamp on the file22:51
Sarvatti'm stumped, no traces of you even logging out ever22:52
AzelphurD:22:52
brycehdmesg?22:53
Sarvatthas it happened since you booted last?22:53
Azelphurbryceh: nothing, checked that :(22:53
Azelphuronly 4 messages for the entire day, none of them relevant22:53
AzelphurSarvatt: yes22:53
Sarvattcan ya pastebin the dmesg just in case?22:53
Sarvatt~/.xsession-errors might be handy too but you might not want to pastebin that in case there is anything sensitive in it22:54
Azelphurhttp://pastebin.com/WM8HaB0S got a bit longer since I checked it at 4 lines, but nothing interesting I can see22:55
Azelphurthat's all of today, and it's crashed a few times today22:55
AzelphurI don't have a ~/.xsession-errors22:55
Azelphuroh wait derp, logged in as root when I was looking at the gdm folder22:55
Azelphurhttp://pastebin.com/dNs0sm53 there's xsession-errors22:56
brycehAzelphur, have you tried reinstalling the driver?22:58
Azelphurbryceh: yes22:58
brycehthis bit's interesting:22:59
bryceh#22:59
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42 Scroll Detection: -scrollcopyrect mode is in effect to22:59
bryceh#22:59
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42   use RECORD extension to try to detect scrolling windows22:59
bryceh#22:59
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42   (induced by either user keystroke or mouse input).22:59
bryceh#22:59
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42   If this yields undesired behavior (poor response, painting22:59
bryceh#22:59
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42   errors, etc) it may be disabled via: '-noscr'22:59
bryceh#22:59
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42   Also see the -help entry for tuning parameters.22:59
Sarvattwell I see it crashing there but nothing about why it happened.. are you sure you don't have logout mapped to a button on the remote or something maybe?22:59
bryceh#22:59
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42   You can press 3 Alt_L's (Left "Alt" key) in a row to22:59
bryceh#22:59
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42   repaint the screen, also see the -fixscreen option for22:59
bryceh#23:00
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42   periodic repaints.23:00
bryceh#23:00
bryceh03/12/2010 19:09:42 X FBPM extension not supported.23:00
AzelphurSarvatt: nope, as I said I've seen it do it while all input devices where a good 5 meters are from any people :)23:00
brycehit'd help to have symbols installed23:02
Azelphurbryceh: what's the package for the symbols?23:03
brycehguessing librecord is capturing some event from a window, then triggering a callback via CallCallbacks, then when that's written to the client it triggers a librecord event23:04
brycehbut hard to guess without line numbers23:04
brycehAzelphur, xserver-xorg-core-dbg maybe23:05
SarvattAzelphur: what's the version of your xserver-xorg-core package?23:06
Azelphurgot that installed, next time it crashes I'll get another backtrace in here :)23:06
AzelphurSarvatt: 2:1.9.0-0ubuntu723:07
Sarvatti'm going to go out on a limb and say some part of mythtv uses qt somewhere and you're hitting the bug fixed in maverick-updates23:07
Sarvattbecause you're using xinerama too23:07
Azelphurmythtv is pretty much entirely qt, so yea...23:07
SarvattAzelphur: ahhh enable maverick-updates23:07
Azelphurshiny :D23:07
Sarvattor is xorg-server not in -updates yet? :(23:07
Sarvattxorg-server (2:1.9.0-0ubuntu7.1) maverick-proposed; urgency=low23:08
Sarvatt  * debian/patches/207_Xext_panoramiXprocs_fix_typo.patch:23:08
Sarvatt    - This prevents Qt applications from crashing when using23:08
Sarvatt      Xinerama multi-head with drivers such as nvidia (LP: #650539).23:08
AzelphurI'm not using xinerama though23:08
Sarvattmaybe when mythtv crashes because of that it restarts the session in mythbuntu23:08
Azelphurat least I shouldn't be, it's a single display23:08
Sarvattyour log said you were I thought23:08
Azelphurthat's odd then, there is only one display23:09
Sarvatt03/12/2010 19:09:42 Xinerama is present and active (e.g. multi-head).23:09
Sarvatt03/12/2010 19:09:42 Xinerama: number of sub-screens: 123:09
Sarvatt03/12/2010 19:09:42 Xinerama: no blackouts needed (only one sub-screen)23:09
Azelphurfun, maybe it's an s-video out thing23:09
brycehwonky23:09
AzelphurI have maverick-updates enabled, did you mean maverick-proposed or backports?23:09
SarvattAzelphur: ahh darn, I was hoping it migrated to -updates already :(23:10
Sarvattyeah it's in proposed for sure if its not there23:10
Azelphurok, got myself on -updates and running an upgrade now, will keep an eye on it and see if it does it again, if it does hopefully I'll have a better backtrace with symbols this time :)23:11
Sarvatti'd enable proposed, apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (just to see what packages are offered, hit n) then upgrade the ones you need. should be xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-core-dbg xserver-common23:11
AzelphurI'm cool with -proposed, I use -proposed on my PC anyway23:12
Sarvattanyone happen to have a machine using fglrx on natty or maverick handy that could try xorg-edgers? need to know if fglrx works without an xorg.conf with it before trying to push that into natty :)23:18
Sarvattnvidia has been working fine for the past week of me trying to break things with no xorg.conf23:18
Sarvattwould be nice to not have things broken because of the old xorg.conf when people remove nvidia or fglrx outside of jockey23:21
Sarvattugh yeah we need a fixed up libvdpau for 32 bit flash acceleration to work on amd64, it works in debian23:28
Sarvattbjsnider: install http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libv/libvdpau/lib32vdpau1_0.4.1-2_amd64.deb :)23:29
Sarvattwe can't build that package because ia32-libs is in universe and libvdpau in main..23:29
brycehyay, finally no more 8080's in my urls23:40
brycehhttp://www.bryceharrington.org/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/versions-current.html23:40
Sarvatthuh, how does wine manage to build-dep on ia32-libs yet be on the livecd?23:47
Sarvattwine1.2 in universe, wine dummy package in main, hmm23:48
Sarvattbryceh: nice, did they open port 80 or did ya fix it another way?23:48
bjsniderSarvatt, would that work for 64-bit flash on amd64?23:59
Sarvattbjsnider: yea23:59
Sarvatterr23:59
Sarvattno23:59
Sarvattno acceleration in the 64 bit flash release23:59
Sarvattworks for 32 bit flash on amd64 thogh23:59
bjsnideri don't use that23:59

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