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moetunescb--:  does the soundcard show when you run   aplay -l   ?00:12
cb--aplay -l gives **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****00:29
cb--card 0: V8237 [VIA 8237], device 0: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237]00:29
cb--  Subdevices: 4/400:29
cb--  Subdevice #0: subdevice #000:29
cb--  Subdevice #1: subdevice #100:29
cb--  Subdevice #2: subdevice #200:29
cb--  Subdevice #3: subdevice #300:30
cb--card 0: V8237 [VIA 8237], device 1: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237]00:30
cb--  Subdevices: 1/100:30
cb--  Subdevice #0: subdevice #000:30
cb--VIA 8237 is the card i think00:31
moetunesseems so - does     aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav     get you a sound?00:34
knome!pastebin | cb--, please use pastebin in the future;00:40
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cb--nope, no sound00:41
cb--my card is also listed when i run lspci -v | less00:42
cb--reading through the sound troubleshooting page from ubuntu now, maybe something will turn up00:42
moetunescb--:  in a terminal run   alsamixer   and turn everything all the way up00:43
cb--k00:44
cb--still nothing00:45
moetunescb--:  you could try in terminal   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp    - watch out it is loud - ctrl+c to stop it01:01
cb--moetunes: got bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied01:04
cb--trying as root01:05
moetunescb--:  it works here - are you in the audio group? use the command   groups   to check01:05
cb--moetunes: from groups got      <username> adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare01:09
moetunescb--:  you'll have to add yourself to the audio group then afaik01:10
cb--moetunes: afaik?01:21
moetunescb--:  afaik = as far as I know01:26
cb--added myself to audio, ran   cat/dev/urandom > /dev/dsp         got No such file or directory01:28
cb--ah yes, acronyms01:28
BlueEaglecb--: Did you log out and back in so that the permissions could take effect?01:28
cb--BlueEagle : no, i'll give it a shot01:29
BlueEaglecb--: Group memberships are cached at login. :)01:29
BlueEaglecb--: Did it work?01:34
cb--BlueEagle: i'm a member of the audio group now, not sure what the next step is01:34
cb--been trying to get the sound to work, as is i can't hear anything01:35
BlueEaglecb--: Well if you logged out and back in then you should be set tbh.01:36
cb--BlueEagle: hmm,01:37
moetunescb--:  time to check for sound modules   lsmod | grep snd01:37
cb--ok, got a whole bunch01:38
moetunesthat's good - try the aplay command I gave earlier01:39
moetunes aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav01:39
cb--moetunes: still nothing01:42
moetunesdoes it look like it plays and you get no sound?01:42
cb--ya, terminal says   Playing WAVE 'usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav01:43
moetunestry again   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp    - watch out it is loud - ctrl+c to stop it01:44
cb--nothing01:45
moetunesno error this time?01:46
cb--no, just a blank space, like it was playing. once i hit ctrl+c it went back to normal layout01:46
moetunescan you paste the return from   lsnod | grep snd   ?01:48
moetunes!paste01:48
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cb--ya, i'm new to xchat. give me a sec01:51
cb--so i pasted in pastebin, what now?01:52
cb--the url i got is http://paste.ubuntu.com/539234/01:53
moetunescb--:  there's a bug for your soundcard - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/297744 - try what the last post suggests or if that doesn't work try post #7's fix01:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 297744 in linux (Ubuntu) "No Sound with VIA 8237 (snd-via82xx) using pulseaudio" [Undecided,New]01:54
cb--cool. thanks for all the help btw01:59
moetunescb--:  is it working now?02:01
cb--not yet, should i reinstall alsa?02:01
moetunesI wouldn't - did you try what post number 7 said? - adding the modules02:02
cb--moetunes: added the line   options snd-via82xx dxs_support=2 to alsa.conf, ran modprobe -r snd-via82xx, got   FATAL module snd_via82xx is in use02:10
moetunescb--:  ok my bad - I checked your paste and it lists the module sorry - I don't know what else to suggest except adding to the bug02:13
cb--hmm, ok. thanks for your willingness02:14
moetunesnp :)02:14
coffeebeanhi03:03
n2diyAny suggestions for a replacement for xfdesktop?03:54
n2diymoetunes: are you available?03:55
moetunesn2diy:  yep I'm here03:56
n2diymoetunes: hello, I don't think I can run xsnow with xfdesktop on board, so I'm looking into a replacement for it, suggestions?03:57
moetunesn2diy:  I would just kill it and set the background with something else03:58
moetunesall it does is the wallpaper and icons afaik03:59
moetunesfrom the man page it does the right click menu too04:00
n2diymoetunes: I don't seem to be able to kill it, killall -v xfdesktop says killed with sig 15, repeat the command, and I get the same response, it appears to be respawning?04:01
* jgould grumbles at his trackpad04:01
moetunesn2diy:  you might have to ask in #xfce about that - it shouldn't respawn afaik04:04
n2diymoetunes: ok, I'll ask them, but I won't hold my breath, I was over there two nights ago with another issue, and never got a reply. Thanks for your time mate.04:08
moetunesn2diy:  check in startup and sessions if xfdesktop is listed04:10
n2diymoetunes: ok.04:10
krisgbHi, may I ask for help on sound troubles in Xubuntu Maverick?06:52
krisgbI ran the alsa-info script and this is the output I got: http://pastebin.com/Y3teCDMF06:53
moetuneskrisgb:  so there is onboard sound and a soundcard - what's the issue?06:55
moetunes!intelhda06:55
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto06:55
krisgbI got no sound playing.06:56
krisgb I tried executing aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav in the terminal and couldn't hear a peep06:57
krisgbis there anything else I should be looking at?06:58
moetunesI have no experience on systems running pulseaudio - all I can recommend is running alsamixer in the terminal and turning everything all the way up06:58
krisgbwell, I checked the mixer, and I turned the volume as high as it could go06:59
moetuneskrisgb:  which mixer?07:00
krisgbxfce4-mixer07:01
krisgb(or should I be looking at something else?)07:01
moetunesI would try   alsamixer   in the terminal07:02
krisgbMaster and PCM are turned way up; I don't see other controls07:02
krisgbsame thing's showing up on alsamixer07:02
moetunesgo through the page ubottu mentioned before then07:02
krisgbso... worst case, I may have to recompile? :(07:03
moetunesno07:03
krisgb(sorry, I'm not that good with computers)07:04
moetunescheck this useful page out -  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto07:04
krisgbit's open now; any section of that long page I should be looking at first?07:04
krisgb(I'm not sure how to edit alsa-base.conf ; what should I be putting after "options snd-hda-intel model=" ?)07:06
krisgb(I've previously tried "auto", didn't work)07:06
krisgb(yes, I restarted after fiddling with alsa-base.conf)07:08
krisgb(it didn't work, I removed the line, restarted again, and now I'm here asking the xubuntu channel...)07:08
moetunesI guess it is pulseaudio getting in the way again - I would uninstall it if it were my system - but I can't say for sure'07:12
krisgbin case it's still screwed up after uninstalling pulseaudio, I can just apt-get it again, yes?07:13
moetunesyep07:13
moetunesgo through the steps you've just done first tho07:14
krisgbany other suggestions you can think of?07:14
moetunesonly have one sound card 'till things start working07:15
krisgband speaking of which, should I just leave alsa-base.conf alone now?07:15
krisgbit's a laptop... :(07:15
TheSheepkrisgb: in the mixer, at the top, you have a deropdown for different devices07:15
TheSheepkrisgb: make sure you unmuted all of them07:16
krisgbTheSheep: they aren't muted, and they're all turned up07:16
krisgband "HDA Intel" is selected, which also showed up in the output of the alsa-info script07:17
TheSheepkrisgb: other devices too?07:17
krisgbThe "HDA NVidia" is there as well (and also showed up in the alsa-info script output).07:17
TheSheepmake sure all of them are unmuted, including pulseaudio07:18
krisgbhow do I check if pulseaudio is unmuted? when I typed pulseaudio into the terminal, I got a "Daemon already running" error.07:19
TheSheepkrisgb: you don't have pulseaudio device in that dropdown in mixer?07:20
krisgbaha... yes, I found it, silly me.07:20
krisgbit's turned up to maximum as well07:20
TheSheepok07:21
krisgb(pardon me, as I said, I am rather inexperienced with this)07:21
TheSheepopen a terminal and try this (it should make noise, ctrl+c to end it): cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp07:22
krisgbuh... computer's not allowing me. sudo?07:23
TheSheepyes07:23
moetunesnot in the audio group then?07:24
Sysiinstall pavucontrol and select sound card you want to use07:24
krisgbmoetunes: I think I saw something about the "audio group" while searching, but couldn't understand it... :(07:24
moetuneskrisgb:  use the   groups   command to find out - and Sysi 's comment is a good one07:25
krisgbSysi: I've asked Synaptic to get it already07:25
krisgbmoetunes: "adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare" ... so, no "audio".07:26
moetunesmight be it then07:26
TheSheepkrisgb: system->users and groups07:27
TheSheepand add yourself07:27
moetunesthat should be "might" - I dunno how things go with pulseaudio07:27
Sysiwith pure alsa i had problems with two soundcards, pulseaudio is made for fixing that ind of problems07:27
moetunesSysi:  heh - the opposite here..07:28
krisgbOkay, turns out "use audio devices" was unchecked under "User Privileges"... I've checked it now and okayed the changes.07:29
krisgbshould I restart now, or something else?07:29
TheSheeprelogin07:30
krisgb(or maybe after Synaptic's done with pavucontrol, my connection is slow)07:30
moetuneswhen you change groups you have to logout/login for it to take affect07:30
moetunesthat's two ppl today that haven't been in the audio group - what's going on here07:33
krisgbdon't know. wouldn't have known about this group thing if it weren't for you guys...07:34
Sysimoetunes: (the soundcard i want to use don't like pulse, rmmod for driver of the other one)07:34
krisgbanyway... Sysi: how do I access pavucontrol when it's installed?07:34
Sysimenu07:34
krisgbokay it's done. I'll restart now. thanks for the help, and I'll report back.07:35
moetunesevery disro I've tried with pulseaudio as a default never gives me sound - every distro I've tried that doesn't have pulseaudio as a default I get sound - the choice seems simple to me07:38
moetunespulseaudio was just born bad07:39
lightahi, how can I add a program to be launch with alt+f2 ?07:43
krisgbyep, the groups thing did the trick. thanks a lot!07:43
moetuneswoot!07:46
moetuneslighta:  you type stuff into alt+F2 - what are you trying to do?07:47
krisgbanother question, if you don't mind... does anybody here have experience with using vmware on Xubuntu?07:47
moetunesI prefer vbox myself, I've never tried vmware07:48
lightaI used vmare to try xubuntu, but I think you want the opposite07:49
Sysii think it should work07:50
krisgbsee, I want to run Windows 7 just for Microsoft Office... apparently, you can set things up so that if the Windows gets borked, you can reset the system with minimal fuss07:50
Sysifor what do you need M$ office?07:50
lightamoetunes, well I want a proper installation. I tryed to put my prog in usr/lib but no change. wanted to appear in menu and etc07:50
krisgbI get sent a  lot of docx stuff07:50
moetuneslibreoffice works fine07:51
krisgband presentations don't work in OpenOffice07:51
krisgbso my idea is just to virtualize the windows07:51
krisgbso I don't worry about a thing if it gets nuked by a virus07:51
krisgbI was wondering if anybody has tried Xubuntu as a host OS07:52
Sysiit shouldn't be different for any *buntu07:52
moetuneslighta:  you need to put apps it in what the folders that are listed in $PATH - menu entries are .desktop files07:53
TheSheeplighta: the menu is built from files in /user/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications07:53
krisgbSysi: so in theory, it ought to work?07:54
TheSheepkrisgb: it ought to work in practice too07:54
moetunesI shouldn't multi task... - I just read what i typed earlier07:58
moetunesenglish is my first language07:58
moetuneslighta:  check ~/.bash_profile to see if it includes ~/bin and put the file in there so it will show at the cli08:00
lightamoetunes, no files found08:01
lightaI didn't quite understand the path thing08:02
lightaI found the . destock file in .usr/share/applications ok08:02
moetuneslighta:  in a terminal type   $PATH08:02
moetunesit shows the dirs that terminal searches for executables08:03
lightasure ? cause it point me on my desktop08:04
lightaso if I understand well I must put my app on desktop08:04
lightathen create an . desktop file and put in in /usr/share/app ?08:04
moetuneslighta:  not necessarily08:05
moetuneswhat does $PATH in terminal return?08:05
lightalighta@lighta-laptop:~/Bureau$ $path08:05
lightalighta@lighta-laptop:~/Bureau$08:05
lightaoops forget ase sensitive08:06
moetuneslighta:  in linux case is important - $PATH is diff to $path08:06
lightaye that what I just remenber xd08:06
moetunesheh :)08:06
lightalighta@lighta-laptop:~/Bureau$ $PATH08:06
lightabash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type08:06
lightaok this sound better I must copy my appli there then ?08:07
lightain one of this folder ?08:07
moetuneslighta:  make a dir called   bin   in your home folder and you can add apps there and they will be added to $PATH  - if things haven't changed - does ~/,bash_profile mention ~/bin?08:08
lightamention usr/bin not ~/bin08:10
moetunesI would add   # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists08:11
moetunesif [ -d ~/bin ] ; then08:11
moetunes    PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"08:11
moetunesfi08:11
moetunesdunno why that would be excluded in recent distros08:12
lightadunno either, whereshould I do this modify ?08:12
moetuneslighta:  do you know that ~ means your home folder? - there's no reason for ~/,bash_profile to mention /usr/bin08:17
lightawell ~ isn't my home directory ?08:17
moetunesdo    ls-a ~    and see if .bash_profile turns upp08:19
lightacommand not found08:20
lightalighta@lighta-laptop:~/Bureau$ ls-a ~08:20
lightals-a : commande introuvable08:20
Sysils -a08:21
moetunessorry do ls -a ~   I missed a space08:21
lightano reference to profile08:21
lightalighta@lighta-laptop:~/Bureau$ ls-a ~08:21
lightals-a : commande introuvable08:21
lightaoh shit08:21
lightalighta@lighta-laptop:~/Bureau$ sudo ls -a ~ | grep .bash08:22
lighta.bash_history08:22
lighta.bash_logout08:22
lighta.bashrc08:22
moetunesno .bash_profile at all - is this a default install lighta ? - Sysi can you confirm this?08:23
Sysion fedora atm08:24
lightafrom xubuntu 9.04 ye, updated in a while to 10.xx08:24
moetunesk - Archlinux here atm08:24
lighta:(08:25
moetuneslighta:  back to the orig prob I guess - for the menu entry you have to make a file in /usr/share/applications - but the executable must be in the dirs recognised by $PATH08:27
moetunesafaik08:28
lightaok, I did this point missing is how to do a desktop file08:29
lightato put it in /usr/share/app08:29
lightahmm q° when you said the executable must be in a dir recognize by $PATH could it be an under directory ? (e.g PATH mention /usr/bin my exe is in /usr/bin/my/*.exe)08:31
moetuneslighta:  I would copy one to my home dir an edit it to point to my app the copy it with sudo back to /us/share/applications08:32
lightaerf low batterie08:34
moetunesheh08:35
lightabut not clear for me sry. you want I create a link on /usr/share/app and the original folder on ~ ?08:35
lightaI had just the opposite from the begining08:36
moetuneslighta:  nope08:36
lightaah ok08:36
moetunescopy a file from /usr/share/app to use as a tmplate - change it so it opens your file and add it back to /usr/share/apps08:37
moetunescall it what you want to show in the menu08:38
lightaok I see =)08:41
lightaworking =)08:48
lightathx a lot08:48
moetuneswoot!08:51
lighta=) but not alt+f2 yet08:57
lightacan you tell me where I should look before battery end on me ?08:58
moetunesmight helpif you tell about the app - what sort of file it is and where it is etc09:08
moetunesand paste the .desktop file you made for it09:09
moetunes!paste09:09
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lightahttp://pastebin.com/DSFy5vyQ09:13
moetunesthat looks fine but i hve heard about issues with teamspeak - tried it from a terminal  so you can get error msgs?09:17
lightawell it's null return error09:27
lightano file from this type09:27
lightafrom menu it's working fine09:28
lightafrom amt+f2 TS3 no09:28
lightathink it missing a pointer somewhere09:28
lightawell thx anyway moetunes i'm gonnasleep09:37
nicofsI need help. I have several managers fighting over my power management. currently my display dims down instandtly and shuts down after a minute. In the settings it sais it shouldn't. please help...10:32
TheSheepnicofs: just kill one of them10:41
TheSheepnicofs: and disable it in autostarted applications10:41
nicofseasily said. which one?10:41
TheSheepnicofs: pick one10:42
nicofsTheSheep: from where?10:42
nicofsonly xfce power manager is in autostart10:43
ubuXubugood morning Xubuntu Technicians, Consultants, Coders,Engineers and Casual Observers...,,15:06
TheSheepand sheep15:07
charlie-tcaand just users15:08
charlie-tcaGood morning, ubuXubu15:09
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ubuXubuis everthing ok here17:03
charlie-tcayes17:06
charlie-tcaubuXubu, you just seemed to disappear for a while?17:06
ubuXubuthis new wireless service just dropped me off awhile ago?17:07
ubuXubuyet the hard wire part never fails17:07
ubuXubudrives me insane17:07
ubuXubui just dropped verizon DSL due to that17:08
ubuXubumaybe its this server doinf it? i dunno...17:08
ubuXubuthe latest message was...diconnected (no such device or address)17:09
charlie-tca[08:21] * ubuXubu has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)17:10
charlie-tcanow it is [10:10]17:10
ubuXubuoh that one17:10
ubuXubuthats was when i came back in as as balsaq becasue my other wasa ghost or something17:10
ubuXubui had to use balsaq to get back cos ubuXubu was still here somehow17:11
ubuXubuthen ubuXubu dropped off on his own17:11
Sysiping timeout is not instant17:11
Sysifor timeout17:11
ubuXubuso i switched back to my new preferred name17:11
ubuXubusee when i came back in as balsaq...ubuXubu was just sitiin there even though i wasnt on a computer as him17:12
charlie-tcaum, actually, it was already disconnected. balsaq login was [09:52]17:15
ubuXubuahhhhhhhh17:22
ubuXubui dunno17:22
ubuXubualli know is every so many hours poof17:22
charlie-tcaMine resets at about 22 hours, I think17:23
ubuXubumy wireless politely drops me off17:23
charlie-tcaMight be more or less, but it does it on regular basis.17:23
ubuXubuthey are installing a new one sunday already17:23
charlie-tcasometimes it logs back in, and sometimes it leaves me hanging17:23
ubuXubuone thing i like about this new one...i dont have to run to the basement and reboot the router to log back on, like the one i replaced.17:26
charlie-tcaheh, that would be a plus17:40
charlie-tcabut... what about the exercise it provided?17:40
ubuXubuyes i will have to start jogging again18:49
shareei19:59
sharemy xubuntu doesnt shut down19:59
sharei click on shutdown then it keeps showing xubuntu logo19:59
dischargeyou can type in terminal "sudo shutdown -h 0" for shutdown20:01
dischargeor killall xfce4-panel; xfce4-panel&20:01
dischargeto restart the panel along with the menu20:02
sharedischarge: i just want to shutdown xubuntu20:02
sharebut it doesnt20:03
sharedischarge: i had to press shutdown button20:03
dischargewell, if the system was frozen, u could most times use <ctrl><alt>F120:03
sharedischarge: i have tried 'sudo shutdown' only before but didnt work20:03
dischargethen issue the shutdown command i mentioned above20:04
sharedischarge: i dont know it is frozen20:04
shareit just didnt shutdown20:04
sharevery strange20:04
dischargesudo shutdown -h 020:04
sharemaybe it's X20:04
shareyes i'll try later20:04
Sysipress powerbutton for some time20:04
dischargeu have to specify "halt" and 0 as time20:04
shareSysi: :P thats what i did20:04
sharedischarge: ok20:04
Sysiif it works next time, it works20:05
sharedischarge:20:05
sharei dunno if i could ctrdl alt f\20:05
sharef120:05
sharewith xubuntu logo showing up20:05
Sysi'poweroff' should be alias for that command btw20:05
sharehm20:06
sharei think i have tried poweroff before20:06
nicklas_hey, how do you get latest stable nvidia / ati driver without installing manually, is the backports or are there any repos?21:49
fructoseHi. I just installed the Xubuntu desktop and am wondering if there's anything extra I can do to improve performance on this sluggish 256MB machine21:54
charlie-tcause midori instead of firefox21:55
mneumonicDoes anyone here run xubuntu installed on a USB drive?22:03
mneumonici'm wondering how bad it will kill the drive22:03
Sysinow this is interesting / cool / nice22:30
Sysikwin with xfce22:30
Sysikwin don't like xfce session managment, otherly even betetr than KDE22:31
n2diymoetunes: I installed kde base on my test box, and xsnow won't play with that either!?23:07
Sysisame hw and xorg23:08
n2diySysi: nah, all the machines here are mutts off the street.23:22
n2diySysi: I ran killall xfdesktop on my backup box, and xsnow is now playing on that one! So, some success.23:23
moetunesn2diy:  kde would do the same thing as xfce in setting the background afaik - good to see you had some success23:50
n2diymoetunes: yes, then I'll try gnome on the test box, and see if that works.23:51
moetunesn2diy:  gnome will be the sane as kde and xfce23:51
n2diymoetunes: they all run xfdesktop?23:51
moetunesn2diy:  no they all control the root desktop the same way23:52
moetuneswhich doesn't let xsnow run23:52
n2diymoetunes: hmmm, then more study is needed, maybe it is time to try BSD? :)23:53
moetunesn2diy:  for xsnow I would try using just a window manager not a desktop environment like xfce or kde or gnome23:54
Caeli just installed via an monitor for display xubuntu 10.04 on my spare pc.. .but after boot using Svideo out its acting like its an PAL signal (no color and screen flipping) but i last left it @ 800x600 @60hz23:59

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