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Jordan_UGrr, losing my internet connection...01:32
rwwJordan_U: for what it's worth, I'd have used /at in autobleh there (10 minute timeout using +q). You should get around to setting it up, makes opping easy ;P01:34
Jordan_Urww: I've set it up, I just haven't memorized all of the commands. I'll remember that one.01:35
rww/help autobleh01:35
rwwI use /at, /ar, /abr, and /aq. forgot all the others >.>01:36
IdleOne/fbi  forward-ban-invite-to-ops01:39
Jordan_UHow do I confirm that autobleh knows that the -ops channel for #ubuntu is #ubuntu-ops?01:41
rwwJordan_U: banforward me from #ubuntu ;D01:42
LjLban me01:42
rwwNO ME01:42
LjLi'm going to bed anyway, won't bother rejoining ;(01:42
LjLME01:42
LjLok, ban rww01:42
LjLjust don't unban him after01:42
Jordan_USo "/af LjL This is a test" ?01:43
rwwI think so.01:43
Jordan_U"Error: forward channel for #ubuntu was not set..."01:44
rwwdid you set it in the configuration file?01:45
LjLmissed your chance!01:45
IdleOne/af #ubuntu-ops LjL this is a test should work01:45
IdleOnelol at ljl01:45
Jordan_UOdd it knows about #ubuntu-de and #ubuntu-de-offtopic by default but not #ubuntu.01:46
rwwmaybe the original author ops there ;\01:46
rwwinteresting choice of banmask on its part, but looks like it works.01:47
Jordan_UThere was no "This is a test" comment, so I'll need to figure that out.01:48
Jordan_UCan I just "/modeset -b rww" to undo it?01:49
rwwI removed it already, but I think you'd have done /modeset -b rww!*@ubuntu/member/rww$#ubuntu-ops01:50
Jordan_UThat's what I expected. Unbanning can't be as easy as banning :)01:50
rwwI just op up and use mode; only need speed (and thus scripts) for giving bans/quiets/removes, not removing them, imho.01:51
IdleOnedoesn't autoblen have a /bans that lists all your bans and then a /remove # or somesuch?01:51
rwwdon't think so01:51
IdleOneok, I dreamed it up01:52
IdleOnewould be a good feature01:52
rwwhuh. irssi has an /unban insertnumberinbanlisthere feature. didn't know that.01:53
Jordan_USo how do I add a nifty comment like "You should know better"?01:55
IdleOneI knew I saw it01:55
rww/ar rww you should know better, /ak rww you should know better. you can't add comments to bans (hence us having bantracker)01:55
Jordan_UAhh, ok.01:56
IdleOneyou can't add a kick/ban  message?01:56
rww/abk rww some message01:56
IdleOne you can't add comments to bans (hence us having bantracker) ???01:57
rwwkicks and bans are different. IRC supports messages attached to kicks and removes. it doesn't support attaching them to bans.01:57
IdleOneright01:57
IdleOneI got you01:57
IdleOneonly thing stopping me from using irssi is the channel/nick management02:00
IdleOneI need a channel list02:00
IdleOnenick list I don't need02:01
knomeIdleOne, i can imagine there is a channel list script. if not, you can easily create that yourself.02:01
rwwI used to have trouble remembering numbers. Was easier when I ordered my channels sanely, though.02:01
knomebasically, /window list does show an ugly channel list02:02
IdleOneknome: I am so used to clicking the channel I want02:03
Jordan_UI just /join #foo02:03
knomemee too. with alt+numver ;)02:03
knomev=b02:03
knomeJordan_U, that works as long as you don't have multiple networks02:03
Jordan_UAnd alt+# for channels I autojoin.02:03
* rww uses escape instead of alt, avoids silly terminal emulator keyboard shortcuts02:03
IdleOneJordan_U: some of our ubuntu* channels names are to long to type02:03
knomethen it gets a bit trickier02:03
knomeIdleOne, irssi has autocomplete02:03
IdleOnehmm02:04
knome#u[tab×n]02:04
IdleOneyou are started to convince me into giving irssi another shot02:04
knomeof course. ;)02:04
=== Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth
=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
IdleOneknome: how do i change the number of scroll back lines in irssi?02:47
rwwset scrollback_lines 2342, or /set scrollback_time 1day02:49
rwws#^#/#02:50
IdleOne2342? random number?02:51
rwwja. default is 500.02:51
IdleOnethank you btw02:54
IdleOneahh it works02:54
IdleOnesorry for that02:55
IdleOnefigured it was better to test here then in #u02:55
rwwmy bantracker record is amusing.02:56
IdleOnewell I think I might use this for a few days02:56
IdleOnestill would like an easier to use channel switching method02:57
IdleOneit would be nice if ops could get a bouncer account on a "stable" server somewhere as part of becoming an op04:02
IdleOnefree of course04:04
IdleOnesilly question maybe but how do I scroll back in irssi?04:05
rwwIdleOne: page up...04:10
IdleOnethat is so linuxy04:10
IdleOneheh04:10
IdleOnerww: how do i close a window?04:12
IdleOneI really should read the handbook I was given with this new toy04:12
rwwIdleOne: /window close, aliased to /wc in the default settings file04:12
rwwor aliased from, depending on how you see such things.04:12
IdleOnethank you04:13
IdleOnedoes /wc # work also?04:13
rwwyes04:13
IdleOneok04:14
IdleOneand now i just need to setup a highlight word list04:14
rwwirssi spells it hilight for some reason04:14
tonyyarussoFewer letters!04:47
tonyyarussoBut yeah, that does annoy me when I have to remind myself to use real English.04:47
IdleOnedoes the /unban take multiple arguments?05:14
IdleOnelike /unban 1 2 405:14
IdleOne/help doesn't say05:14
rwwlet's find out!05:14
IdleOneok!05:15
rwwIdleOne: yes05:15
IdleOnecool05:15
rwwi wonder if it can deal with five05:15
IdleOnealso /kn is nice for timed bans05:16
rwwalso yes!05:16
IdleOnewhy have I not been using irssi for the past 12 years :(05:16
rwwIdleOne: autobleh also has /at for timed +q05:17
IdleOneyup05:17
IdleOnethat I knew05:17
IdleOneoh, how do I list +q's05:18
rww/mode #ubuntu q05:18
IdleOneok05:18
* rww ponders removing the rest of the proxy user bans05:18
rwwFloodBots aren't banforwarding open proxies any more... so I think I will do that.05:19
IdleOneone thing I don't like is you have to provide $nick to /op05:20
IdleOne/op alone should op $me05:21
rww/alias opup msg chanserv op $C rww05:21
rwwthere's probably a variable for current nick. i don't know it.05:21
IdleOneI don't want to op you :P05:21
rww(open proxy bans removed)05:21
rwwyou should probably just make ##idleone or something ;P05:26
IdleOnerww: /alias opup msg chanserv op $C $N05:27
rwwta05:27
IdleOneand yeah I should05:27
* tonyyarusso ponders the oddity of not having a personal channel05:27
tonyyarussoIdleOne: I don't know what your script does, but /quote chanserv op #channel ops me without a nick argument.  Nick is needed to deop, since ops can deop other ops.05:28
rwwso it does. i am a noob.05:29
IdleOneahhh need to edit my alias then05:29
IdleOnewhy does msg chanserv op $C $N send me a PM?05:30
IdleOnenm05:30
IdleOnelol05:30
IdleOnefreak myself out sometimes05:30
tonyyarussoIt doesn't; you opened a PM window with chanserv by using /msg.  This is why /quote wins.05:30
IdleOneyup05:30
rwwhrm05:30
IdleOnethanks tonyyarusso05:32
nhandlerIdleOne: If you do '^MSG Chanserv foo' (note the ^, a / is not needed), you won't get the PM window. If you are using irssi now, you might want to look into autobleh as well06:19
rwwidoru is twitchy tonight.08:11
Flannelyeah, I noticed that.08:11
rwwnot that I'll miss that nickname, but still.08:11
macowow08:11
rwwMy cat is powered by static electricity.08:12
macoi saw that nick in my all-chan thing and was about to come in here and say something when i saw idoru'd done something already08:12
tonyyarussoall-chan thing?08:12
rwwtonyyarusso: quassel thing, pane at the top of the window with messages from all channels so you can keep an eye on things in general08:14
FlannelLook at that, h.u.c went back to non-UUID anchors!08:17
macoh?08:17
rwwhelp08:17
rwwCanonical-hosted websites, stable URIs, etc.08:18
macoah that08:18
tonyyarussoyeah.......08:18
Flannelmaco: h.u.c vs w.u.c :)08:18
tonyyarussoI don't remember what it was, but I found a broken link to a pretty darn basic page recently.  :(08:18
rwwalthough it's a wiki, so stable URIs are kinda out the window, but whatever.08:18
Flannelrww: yeah, but they used to be UUIDs, as opposed to #the-title-of-the-heading-with-dashes08:19
rwwtonyyarusso: yeah, ubuntu.com got moved around when they changed the site theme. I'm still cranky about it ;P08:19
Flanneler, they were originally titles (which made them hooman readable), then they were UUIDs, now they're hooman readable again08:19
ubottuhisto called the ops in #ubuntu (jdn)14:19
tsimpsonso, I've been playing with ubottu.com and I put an https version up (https://ubottu.com)15:14
tsimpsonit uses a self-signed certificate, so your browser will likely complain that it's invalid or something, but it should work anyway once you manually accept the certificate15:14
tsimpsonthe bot isn't setup to use any of the https links (yet), so if you want a secure connection, you'll need  to modify the url the bot gives you15:15
* tsimpson hopes Myrtti can sleep a little better knowing there is a secure option available now15:16
Myrttithank you15:23
Myrttisilly mobile keyboard15:24
Myrttino smileys15:24
MyrttiI'm sure there are somewhere...15:25
alabdikonia:  hello ,  don't you want remove ban ?15:25
ikoniaalabd: no, or I would have done so15:29
alabdikonia:can not get what you mean , do you mean it will be ban for ever ? it's about some months ...15:30
ikoniaalabd: I have no intention of removing the ban.15:30
alabdikonia: what should i-humble do ?15:31
ikoniaalabd: not use #ubuntu, and use other Linux based channels as you have been doing15:31
alabdwhile i-humble am using ubuntu distro ,what channel should be used for support ?15:32
ikoniaalabd: ##linux15:32
ikoniaas you have been using15:32
tsimpsonor try the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/15:33
ikoniaexcellent suggestion also15:33
alabd##linux can be used for some issues not all , if linux was enough so why is #ubuntu for ?15:33
alabdtsimpson: http://ubuntuforums.org/ is not irc channel15:34
ikoniaalabd: ##linux can be used for any linux issues15:34
tsimpsonalabd: I am aware15:34
ikoniaalabd: well, you have your answer, you can use ##linux or any other Linux based IRC channel you wish15:34
ikoniaalabd: we are not here to help you find other channels,15:34
alabdikonia: is there any rational reason behind banning a person from ubuntu channel for ever ?15:35
ikoniaalabd: yes, I don't believe you can particiapte in the channel,15:35
tsimpsonalabd: bans are never automatically removed, that are only removed when we have some evidence that the person can abide by the channel rules15:36
alabdparticiapte ? how do you know that ? if yes how do i-humble could particiapte in ##linux ?15:36
ikoniaalabd: because you are a persistnat issue in the channel, that got you banned, therefore I don't believe it's the right channel for you15:37
tsimpson##linux is not affiliated with #ubuntu, a ban in one does not effect the other15:37
alabdtsimpson:  yes i-humble mean if ikonia believes that a person can not use #ubuntu truely how could that person  use ##linux truely ?15:39
ikoniaalabd: because they have different rules15:40
tsimpson#ubuntu and ##linux have different rules, it's up to the operators in ##linux to decide what is and what is not appropriate for their channel15:40
Myrttiwe're not affiliated with that channel and the operators of that channel make their decisions on their own about if you are a constructive member of the community15:40
alabdreason of my ban in #ubuntu in some month ago was asking unrelated question , i-humble mean if i-humble have asked unrelated questions in ##linux from that time they would ban me also15:42
ikoniaalabd: ask the operators in ##linux15:43
ikoniaalabd: we only control the #ubuntu channels15:43
alabdso this is an evidence15:43
alabdis not it ?15:43
Myrttiof what?15:43
ikoniaalabd: let me make this clar and short15:43
Myrttithat they have different rules about unrelated questions?15:43
Myrttiyes, it would be evidence of that15:43
ikoniaalabd: you are banned from the #ubuntu channel, you are welcome to use other channels15:43
ikonia(irony of miss-typing clear)15:44
alabdMyrtti:  evidence of that i-humble don't ask unrelated question again , so my behavior will be adapted with #ubuntu rules15:46
ikoniaalabd: there is nothing more to discuss15:46
Myrttialabd: no, it's not15:47
ikoniaalabd: please leave this channel and use any other channels that you are not banned from15:47
alabdMyrtti:  tsimpson so what is evidence ?15:47
Myrttimoving on...15:47
ikoniaalabd: there is nothing more to discuss15:47
Myrtti[17:43] <+Myrtti> that they have different rules about unrelated  questions?15:48
tsimpsonalabd: your ban in #ubuntu is not going to be removed today, if there is nothing else, please leave this channel15:48
alabdtsimpson: ok no problem for today , my question is how and when will ban removed15:48
ikoniaalabd: there is no set date15:48
alabdnow it is about some months ... and i-humble am ubuntu user and need support in irc sometime , ...what should be done for removing ban ? waiting ? up to  ?15:51
ikoniaalabd: there is no set time, you will not be unbanned at this time15:51
tsimpsonaccess to #ubuntu is not a right, just because you happen to use Ubuntu does not give you automatic access to #ubuntu15:51
jussialabd: if you participate correctly in other #ubuntu-* channels, there is a possiblity that you will be unbanned, but we need to see good evidence that you can follow the rules - in our channels15:54
jussialabd: for now though, you will not be unbanned.15:54
Hobbseepossible heads up on Chaos2358.  he's silent in -devel right now, but who knows how long that will stay for15:55
ikoniaHobbsee: he's known15:55
Hobbseeikonia: cool15:55
alabdjussi thanks but you should know your way is almost impossible because a normal user of ubuntu may require only #ubuntu for support ,are you agreee ?15:55
* Hobbsee still doesn't get why people think insulting a gropu of people is a way to get support15:56
jussialabd: no.15:56
alabdwhat other channels do you think a ubuntu user may require? jussi15:56
tsimpsonthat's besides the point15:56
ikoniaalabd: you've been told ##linux is available15:57
ikoniaalabd: we are not here here to help you find other channels15:57
tsimpsonyou are banned in #ubuntu, so you can not join there. you can join other channels if you wish15:57
alabdtsimpson:  ikonia me and jussi were talking about other ubuntu-* channels15:59
charlie-tcaHobbsee, +115:59
ikoniaalabd: the ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu15:59
ikoniathere isn't another ubuntu support channel16:00
ikoniathat's why ##linux was suggested16:00
alabdikonia:  you know i-humble have tried to ask some specific ubuntu question in ##linux but they asked me to join #ubuntu , ##linux is not the same as #ubuntu in suorting ubuntu user16:01
ikoniaalabd: stick with it, people will help you,16:02
alabdin fact ##linux is not equal to #ubuntu in suporting ubuntu user16:03
ikoniathat's not our issue16:03
ikoniaalabd: you have a choice, use it or don't16:03
ikoniaalabd: now, I think we've made this quiet clear, so if you'd like to leave this channel and go about your IRC day16:04
alabdikonia:  :)  , what will be happened if you were persident16:04
ikoniaalabd: I don't know, nor do I care, please leave this channel16:04
alabdanyway jussi would you answer that question16:05
ikoniaalabd: no, there is nothing more to discuss16:05
tsimpsonalabd: this is not a general discussion channel16:05
alabdtsimpson:  that was related to this issue see above16:06
alabdi-humble asked > alabd 12/04/2010 07:25:54 PM16:06
alabdjussi thanks but you should know your way is almost impossible because a normal user of ubuntu may require only #ubuntu for support ,are you agreee ?16:06
ikoniaalabd: that's not an issue, we have told you the channels and your current situation16:06
tsimpsonwe have informed you that the ban will not be removed, there is nothing left to discuss alabd16:06
tsimpsonalabd: he answered with "alabd: no"16:06
alabdyes16:06
tsimpsonyou have the answer, please leave16:06
alabdand he/she mean a normal user of ubuntu may not require only #ubuntu for support16:07
ikonianote to the channel he doesn't actually use a stock ubuntu OS, but a very modified version from his friend16:08
Hobbseei'm starting to think there should be a drivers licence analogy.  if you lose your licence, it's your problem on how to get home.  the police officer doesn't need to offer you a lift.  as a factoid16:08
Myrttiikonia: chaos?16:08
ikoniaHobbsee: think I've got him calm now16:09
ikoniaalabd: any reason you've come back after you've just been removed from this channel ?16:09
alabdikonia: yes16:09
Hobbseeikonia: true.  wasn't meaning chaos, though16:09
alabd i-humble was talking ... and jussi mean a normal user of ubuntu may not require only #ubuntu for support16:09
jussialabd: wheree are you from?16:09
alabdwould you jussi name 1 other ubuntu-* channel that a ubuntu user may use to be evidence16:10
jussialabd: where are you from?16:10
alabdiran16:10
jussialabd: #ubuntu-ir16:10
alabdand who will show evidence to you?16:10
jussiIm there...16:11
jussi;)16:11
jussialabd: will there be anything else?16:11
alabdalways ? some months ago i-humble was there almost everyday to answer people questions , you can check16:11
ikoniaalabd: stop arguing it - accept it and move on16:12
jussialabd: go back there, use it for support if you need to.16:12
alabdjussi no it is not good channel for support because skill users are few in there and they most of times don't know my answer , but i-humble was there in months to answer beginer questions  may be it is good evidence ,is not ?16:14
jussino.16:14
ikoniathis is wasting time16:14
ikoniaalabd: you know the situation, accept it16:14
Myrttiwhat's with the i-humble?!?!?!!16:15
ikoniato finish what I was saing, alabd's ubuntu install isn't an clean install, it's modified to work with his odd TV card and other things16:15
jussiMyrtti: long story...16:15
ikoniaMyrtti: it's his name "humble" it's just a language thing16:15
jussiit used to be "humble"16:15
ikoniaI can't be bothered arguing the "its not ubuntu any more - so don't get support in #ubuntu" with him, as he just doesn't get it16:15
tsimpsonhe uses "humble" in place of "I"16:15
ikoniathats why I didn't mention it16:16
Myrttiright16:16
tsimpsonalabd: you have been asked to leave16:16
alabdjussi was my talks finished ?16:16
alabdtsimpson:  wait16:16
alabdjussi said16:16
alabdjussi 12/04/2010 07:24:14 PM16:16
alabdalabd: if you participate correctly in other #ubuntu-* channels, there is a possiblity that you will be unbanned, but we need to see good evidence that you can follow the rules - in our channels16:16
alabdand i-humble say you can check ubuntu-ir  for evidnece16:16
MyrttiI think he's down now, boys16:17
tsimpsonmeh, your script is fooey16:17
IdleOnemy script is fooey16:17
IdleOnegot a better one?16:17
tsimpsondepends on your client I guess16:18
IdleOneirssi16:18
tsimpsonthen nope :)16:18
jussiautobleh?16:18
IdleOneyup16:18
* Myrtti loves her aliases16:18
* jussi huggles his quassel aliases16:18
tsimpsonbanning with the ident@cloak just mean they can change their user and evade the ban16:18
IdleOneI have to change that16:19
* IdleOne gets on it16:19
jussimrgh... seems my planet feed isnt working...16:21
jussiI wonder what happened16:21
topylicensorship!16:22
Hobbseeyou need to sacrifice another chicken16:24
jussimeh, Ill fix it soon16:25
Myrttior more herring to the holy Tux16:25
jussiIm going to change my url scheme to a sane one first16:25
Hobbseei'd like to put forward http://squee.icanhascheezburger.com/ for the day's viewing16:26
Hobbseeand for general sanity purposes16:26
jussi:D16:26
Hobbseesoooo cute :)16:27
jussiHobbsee: you are geting clucky...16:28
Hobbseejussi: hehe, i don't want one16:28
Hobbseethey're just uber-cute16:28
jussilol16:28
Hobbseei'm forbidden from having a cat, anyway16:28
Hobbseeand that's my preferred form of cuteness16:28
Hobbseeso, pictures will do16:28
jussiso yeah, as my blog goodness is not making it to planet, Id like to point out: http://jussi01.com/16:29
jussiparticularly the first post16:29
Hobbseewoot16:29
* Hobbsee --> bed16:30
jussinini16:31
myrtti_testthat's funny, the user list seems mighty empty from empathy16:52
IdleOneahh my window number changed!17:28
IdleOneis there a way to make them stay always the same?17:29
jussi/save  ??17:29
IdleOnehmm17:29
topyli /layout save17:29
jussiI dont remember - too long since i seriously used irssi17:29
jussioh, almost17:29
jussi:)17:29
IdleOnethank you jussi and topyli17:29
topylitrust me, i'm having a beer17:30
IdleOnehehe17:30
jussioh beer!!17:30
IdleOnefollow topyli if you want to live17:30
jussipass me one!17:30
IdleOnepass me two, so I don't bother you in 5 minutes17:30
IdleOne:-)17:30
* topyli hoards17:32
jussiaawwww17:33
* Jordan_U hurls an intercontinental ballistic beer17:33
Myrttiewww beer17:34
Myrttitea, or death!17:34
IdleOneis there alcoholic tea?17:35
topylisure there is. just make some tea, add vodka17:35
IdleOnewin!17:35
IdleOneprofit!17:36
IdleOnestart coding!17:36
IdleOnethink I might need to alias qin win17:37
IdleOneheh17:37
cdbsoh hi all17:41
IdleOnemorning cdbs17:41
cdbsEvening IdleOne :D17:41
cdbsIts best to say 'Good {morning,afternoon,evening}!'17:41
cdbsIt suites all timezones :D17:42
IdleOnethat would involve me typing more and possibly making more typos17:42
MyrttiUGT17:42
cdbsAnyone read what WikiLeaks leaked?17:42
Myrttihttp://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html17:42
IdleOneSo I stick to my time zone and others can do the temporal conversion for themself17:42
Myrtti!pm > Gabarus17:42
Myrtti"moin"17:42
IdleOneI don't read wikileaks, I heard they were going to be leaking some 2000 pages worth of Canadian Gov. docs this week17:43
MyrttiUSA apparently dictated the new Spanish copyright law17:44
cdbsWikiLeaks.org is currently DDoSed17:44
IdleOneThe secret will be out now. Canada is taking over Turkey and renaming it to Chicken.17:44
cdbslol17:44
Myrtticdbs: wikileaks.fi may or may not work17:44
IdleOnewikilieaks.ch17:44
cdbshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_diplomatic_cables_leak read it in a much better format here :D17:44
IdleOnethis is best suited for offtopic though17:45
IdleOnealthough I suppose a little chatter between team members is ok17:45
cdbshmm17:45
topyliwer should use swatch time!17:45
IdleOneswatch? they still make those17:45
jussijimmy wales is scary... and -ot is the way to go for this discussion :)17:46
topyliIdleOne: i doubt it, but i guess the time format is still good17:46
cdbsSwatch time?17:46
topylihttp://www.timeanddate.com/time/internettime.html17:49
topylimetric!17:49
IdleOneso the BMT would be 536.81 beats topyli ?17:53
topyliright now? i don't know, my swatch is broken :(17:54
topylihttp://www.swatch.com/zz_en/internettime.html17:55
cdbs:o17:55
topylithe gnome clock applet no longer has internet time as an option apparently :(17:59
topyliah it does, just not in the gui18:00
LjLneed to gconf? :(18:02
LjLwhy take away visibility from such an essential option18:02
bazhangcdbs, hi18:03
cdbsHi bazhang18:03
bazhangcdbs, PM please18:03
cdbsLjL, topyli: Want me to re-implement it and put it in a PPA?18:03
topylinah, the gconf key is enough18:04
LjLnah feel free to do something more useful :P18:04
topyli:)18:04
mneptokit's currently @79518:05
* mneptok has Internet time in his irssi statusbar18:05
topylii knew someone besides must be old enough to remember18:07
topylibesides myself18:07
Myrttitopyli: naula :-<18:07
Myrtti*cough*18:07
topylioh yes you were in school already :)18:08
* topyli hides18:08
Myrttican I tell dallen to install mp3blaster :-D18:08
topyliwell it's still supported!18:11
IdleOneit is in the repos18:12
Myrttiyes, sure, but it's a ncurses player ;-)18:13
IdleOnencurses: because you will use it n curse18:15
topyli:)18:17
bazhangthat grubed is a script that's been around since gutsy18:17
Myrttibazhang: is it safe in any level?18:18
bazhangMyrtti, not sure about safe, but not very capable/usable compared with grub2 (even the gui PPA are better at this point)18:18
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228104&page=2618:19
IdleOnethat thread says it doesn't work with grub2 anyway18:21
bazhangyeppers18:21
bazhangthat would be last non-supported way to go. omgubuntu or webupd8 would precede that18:22
IdleOnethe !nvidia factoid should point to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers (or whatever it is called now) before sending to binary howto.18:50
jribIdleOne: the page points to that (doesn't it)18:51
IdleOnenot sure18:51
jribit does18:51
IdleOneok18:51
IdleOnenever mind me then18:51
jribIdleOne: mentioning it in the factoid wouldn't hurt18:52
IdleOneyou have the correct path to add to the edit? I'm running +118:53
IdleOnenot to mention I don't have factoid edit rights18:53
IdleOneHow dare they ask for a distro recommendation other the Ubuntu!18:56
IdleOneUBUNTU 4 LIFE!18:56
bazhangmint!18:56
jribIdleOne: on Lucid, it's what you said, I don't know about lucid18:58
IdleOnejrib: for now the factoid does point to the "default" way of installing nvidia drivers. I'll make a note to look up and make edit later18:59
jribk, sounds good19:00
IdleOnewrong X?19:00
IdleOneheh19:00
jussiknome: #ubuntu-offtopic!!19:01
Tm_T!19:27
* Tm_T hides19:27
bazhangtrojanised version?19:43
IdleOne"hacked"19:47
IdleOnebut I doubt it made it into the repos even if it was hacked19:48
bazhanghe's trolling two channels (well one now)20:02
IdleOnewho?20:03
bazhangiBeef20:04
IdleOneoh20:05
IdleOnehe's harassing #windows now?20:05
bazhanglots of entries for very close IP addy's20:05
IdleOnepatience is definitely something they should teach in school20:05
rwwmornin'20:06
bazhanghi20:07
IdleOnemorning to you sir20:07
IdleOne!lubuntu is <reply> /win 3420:08
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, IdleOne said: !lubuntu is <reply> /win 3420:08
IdleOneoops20:08
ubottuIn ubottu, IdleOne said: lubuntu is <reply> lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu20:10
IdleOnedamn it!20:10
IdleOnecan someone add << /join #lubuntu >> to that20:10
bazhang!lubuntu20:10
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu20:10
IdleOnemy irssi skills are failing me :)20:10
nhandlerubottu: !lubuntu =~ s/$/ . \/join #lubuntu for lubuntu support./20:12
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, nhandler said: ubottu: !lubuntu =~ s/$/ . \/join #lubuntu for lubuntu support./20:12
nhandlerubottu: !lubuntu =~ s/$/ . \/join #lubuntu for lubuntu support./20:12
ubottuIn ubottu, IdleOne said: lubuntu is <reply> lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu. Support in #lubuntu << /join #lubuntu >>/win 3520:12
IdleOnehahaha20:12
IdleOneok I'm done20:12
bazhang:020:13
IdleOnethank you nhandler20:13
nhandler!lubuntu | IdleOne20:14
ubottuIdleOne: lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.20:14
IdleOnelooks good and thanks again20:14
nhandlerYou're welcome IdleOne20:15
IdleOnebtw chanserv.py now has timed bans and +q20:40
IdleOnegit your new version20:41
topyliooh20:41
bazhangreally?20:45
bazhang!chanserv.py20:45
ubottuchanserv.py is a ChanServ helper script for !XChat | http://www.kaarsemaker.net/downloads/code/chanserv.py20:45
IdleOnethat isn't good20:46
IdleOnehttps://github.com/seveas/chanserv.py/raw/master/chanserv.py20:46
IdleOnebazhang: yes, really20:46
IdleOne/cs b -tSECONDS nick and /cs mute -tSECONDS NICK20:47
IdleOneso I spent all night setting up irssi to come back to xchat20:48
IdleOneoh, how I missed you xchat *huggles*20:48
rww>.>20:48
nhandlerIdleOne: I thought you said you'd give irssi a fair chance ;)20:48
IdleOnenhandler: I will20:48
IdleOneI still have it setup and running :P20:49
IdleOnetwo clients one nick20:49
IdleOnegotta love bouncers20:49
* rww sshes into IdleOne's computer, installs KDE and Quassel20:49
IdleOnelol20:49
IdleOneI have a no kde block20:49
rwwheh. I have no libgtk stuff on mine ;P20:50
IdleOnebesides you will never guess my password is rwwisthebestest120:50
IdleOnehey that show be ***********20:50
IdleOneshould*20:50
rwwThat's mc44's nickserv password. More proof that you're the same person :(20:51
topyliIdleOne: that's a pretty common password here, you might want something more difficult to guess20:51
* IdleOne changes pass to rwwmakesmewanna_punchhim20:51
bazhangIdleOne, /cs m -t300 nick for five minutes then?20:51
IdleOnebazhang: yes but you need to use mute and not m20:52
IdleOnefor some reason it doesn't work with m20:52
bazhangIdleOne, thanks20:52
IdleOneif you use m it will -t the channel20:52
bazhanghehe20:52
IdleOneyeah20:52
IdleOnenot good20:52
IdleOnechanserv would kick in and set it again though20:53
IdleOnebut still not good20:53
* rww snuggles /at20:53
nhandlerYep, autobleh lets you set a default timeout as well as specify a per-quiet timeout20:54
rwwHow do you do per-quiet ones?20:55
topylisomething like /at 5 rww20:56
topylifive minutes20:56
nhandlerNah, looks like it would be /at rww 30020:57
nhandlerYep, that is it20:58
topyliah20:59
knomejussi, wut?21:27
jussiknome: nothing anymore. all good.21:27
knomejussi, right... now it got interesting?21:28
jussiknome: we were collecting finns in -ot. nothing more.21:29
knomejussi, a-ha... :P too bad i was away :P21:29
knomejussi, i mean saturday evening @9pm, who is ircing then? ;)21:31
jussilol, me - sari is at work and Im stuck at home without a car21:31
knomenow wait a sec - we don't even have a car !21:32
jussiyeah, but you live in the city...21:32
knomeyeah. but it's 7 minutes walking to the train station!21:32
knomefrom where it takes 10 minutes to be at absolute city centre of helsinki!21:33
knome(way too far!!)21:33
jussihaha21:33
jussiits 6km to the bus stop and 25km to the city for me...21:33
knomeanother choice is to take the 5 minute walk to the bus stop plus a 15 minute bus trip, but that's a bit slow...21:33
IdleOnethe time you guys spent talking about it on irc you could of been there already21:37
IdleOnejust saying :)21:37
* IdleOne pokes jussi in the stomach with a knome 21:37
* jussi sits on IdleOne21:38
* IdleOne rocks back and forth singing lullaby to jussi 21:38
knomeIdleOne, nah, i only just came home ;) with train from a city not next to helsinki ;)21:38
jussilol21:38
IdleOnego to sleep, my little jussi, time for daddy to start drinking.....la lala la la lala21:39
knomeaww21:40
rwwIdleOne: could have :(21:49
IdleOneheh22:12
ikoniaemma is actually ban dodging in #xubuntu (although I don't think it's intentional as the ban appears to be old and on emma) as she is currently using the nickname em23:41
ikoniaand in #ubuntu-women23:49
ikonianot sure if it's intended at emma or another issue23:49
IdleOnejust looks like old bans23:52
IdleOneI don't recall her being banned recently23:52
IdleOnein -women23:52
ikoniawell, that's what I'm trying to find out, as they are old bans, she wouldn't need to be banned as she would be banned if she was using the nickname that's banned23:53
rwwI don't see her as banned in #ubuntu-women?23:56
Picime either.23:56
ikoniaBT shows her as23:56
rwwBT is wrong, then ;)23:56
PiciIf ubottu missed the unban, then it'll be innacurate.23:57
ikoniaadd offtopic, I agree that's probably wrong from what you're saying23:57
ikoniaI can see it in the ban list in #xubuntu23:57
ikoniait's obvious she's reading the logs as she's just changed nicks and rejoined #xubuntu and #ubuntu-women, but she won't respond to my request to see if she knows what this was about23:58
rwwlogs for this channel haven't updated since you brought it up23:58
Piciikonia: knows if what was about?23:58
IdleOneshe has also just changed her ident23:59
PiciShe was banned across the entire namespace at one point.23:59
rww(though they will in the next < 5 minutes)23:59
ikoniaPici: if she knew if it was her that had been banned or not23:59
ikoniaPici: yes, but not sure if that's the same thing in #xubuntu23:59
Piciikonia: it likely is.23:59
ikoniait does look quite old23:59
IdleOnehmm wait, I;m wrong23:59
PiciIdleOne: you need to reconnect to change your ident.23:59

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