[00:54] <rww> ithm !hash is <alias> md5sums
[01:21] <IdleOne> !hash
[01:21] <IdleOne> !hashes
[01:32] <Jordan_U> Grr, losing my internet connection...
[01:34] <rww> Jordan_U: for what it's worth, I'd have used /at in autobleh there (10 minute timeout using +q). You should get around to setting it up, makes opping easy ;P
[01:35] <Jordan_U> rww: I've set it up, I just haven't memorized all of the commands. I'll remember that one.
[01:35] <rww> /help autobleh
[01:36] <rww> I use /at, /ar, /abr, and /aq. forgot all the others >.>
[01:39] <IdleOne> /fbi  forward-ban-invite-to-ops
[01:41] <Jordan_U> How do I confirm that autobleh knows that the -ops channel for #ubuntu is #ubuntu-ops?
[01:42] <rww> Jordan_U: banforward me from #ubuntu ;D
[01:42] <LjL> ban me
[01:42] <rww> NO ME
[01:42] <LjL> i'm going to bed anyway, won't bother rejoining ;(
[01:42] <LjL> ME
[01:42] <LjL> ok, ban rww
[01:42] <LjL> just don't unban him after
[01:43] <Jordan_U> So "/af LjL This is a test" ?
[01:43] <rww> I think so.
[01:44] <Jordan_U> "Error: forward channel for #ubuntu was not set..."
[01:45] <rww> did you set it in the configuration file?
[01:45] <LjL> missed your chance!
[01:45] <IdleOne> /af #ubuntu-ops LjL this is a test should work
[01:45] <IdleOne> lol at ljl
[01:46] <Jordan_U> Odd it knows about #ubuntu-de and #ubuntu-de-offtopic by default but not #ubuntu.
[01:46] <rww> maybe the original author ops there ;\
[01:47] <rww> interesting choice of banmask on its part, but looks like it works.
[01:48] <Jordan_U> There was no "This is a test" comment, so I'll need to figure that out.
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Can I just "/modeset -b rww" to undo it?
[01:50] <rww> I removed it already, but I think you'd have done /modeset -b rww!*@ubuntu/member/rww$#ubuntu-ops
[01:50] <Jordan_U> That's what I expected. Unbanning can't be as easy as banning :)
[01:51] <rww> I just op up and use mode; only need speed (and thus scripts) for giving bans/quiets/removes, not removing them, imho.
[01:51] <IdleOne> doesn't autoblen have a /bans that lists all your bans and then a /remove # or somesuch?
[01:51] <rww> don't think so
[01:52] <IdleOne> ok, I dreamed it up
[01:52] <IdleOne> would be a good feature
[01:53] <rww> huh. irssi has an /unban insertnumberinbanlisthere feature. didn't know that.
[01:55] <Jordan_U> So how do I add a nifty comment like "You should know better"?
[01:55] <IdleOne> I knew I saw it
[01:55] <rww> /ar rww you should know better, /ak rww you should know better. you can't add comments to bans (hence us having bantracker)
[01:56] <Jordan_U> Ahh, ok.
[01:56] <IdleOne> you can't add a kick/ban  message?
[01:56] <rww> /abk rww some message
[01:57] <IdleOne>  you can't add comments to bans (hence us having bantracker) ???
[01:57] <rww> kicks and bans are different. IRC supports messages attached to kicks and removes. it doesn't support attaching them to bans.
[01:57] <IdleOne> right
[01:57] <IdleOne> I got you
[02:00] <IdleOne> only thing stopping me from using irssi is the channel/nick management
[02:00] <IdleOne> I need a channel list
[02:01] <IdleOne> nick list I don't need
[02:01] <knome> IdleOne, i can imagine there is a channel list script. if not, you can easily create that yourself.
[02:01] <rww> I used to have trouble remembering numbers. Was easier when I ordered my channels sanely, though.
[02:02] <knome> basically, /window list does show an ugly channel list
[02:03] <IdleOne> knome: I am so used to clicking the channel I want
[02:03] <Jordan_U> I just /join #foo
[02:03] <knome> mee too. with alt+numver ;)
[02:03] <knome> v=b
[02:03] <knome> Jordan_U, that works as long as you don't have multiple networks
[02:03] <Jordan_U> And alt+# for channels I autojoin.
[02:03]  * rww uses escape instead of alt, avoids silly terminal emulator keyboard shortcuts
[02:03] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: some of our ubuntu* channels names are to long to type
[02:03] <knome> then it gets a bit trickier
[02:03] <knome> IdleOne, irssi has autocomplete
[02:04] <IdleOne> hmm
[02:04] <knome> #u[tab×n]
[02:04] <IdleOne> you are started to convince me into giving irssi another shot
[02:04] <knome> of course. ;)
[02:47] <IdleOne> knome: how do i change the number of scroll back lines in irssi?
[02:49] <rww> set scrollback_lines 2342, or /set scrollback_time 1day
[02:50] <rww> s#^#/#
[02:51] <IdleOne> 2342? random number?
[02:51] <rww> ja. default is 500.
[02:54] <IdleOne> thank you btw
[02:54] <IdleOne> ahh it works
[02:55] <IdleOne> sorry for that
[02:55] <IdleOne> figured it was better to test here then in #u
[02:56] <rww> my bantracker record is amusing.
[02:56] <IdleOne> well I think I might use this for a few days
[02:57] <IdleOne> still would like an easier to use channel switching method
[04:02] <IdleOne> it would be nice if ops could get a bouncer account on a "stable" server somewhere as part of becoming an op
[04:04] <IdleOne> free of course
[04:05] <IdleOne> silly question maybe but how do I scroll back in irssi?
[04:10] <rww> IdleOne: page up...
[04:10] <IdleOne> that is so linuxy
[04:10] <IdleOne> heh
[04:12] <IdleOne> rww: how do i close a window?
[04:12] <IdleOne> I really should read the handbook I was given with this new toy
[04:12] <rww> IdleOne: /window close, aliased to /wc in the default settings file
[04:12] <rww> or aliased from, depending on how you see such things.
[04:13] <IdleOne> thank you
[04:13] <IdleOne> does /wc # work also?
[04:13] <rww> yes
[04:14] <IdleOne> ok
[04:14] <IdleOne> and now i just need to setup a highlight word list
[04:14] <rww> irssi spells it hilight for some reason
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> Fewer letters!
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> But yeah, that does annoy me when I have to remind myself to use real English.
[05:14] <IdleOne> does the /unban take multiple arguments?
[05:14] <IdleOne> like /unban 1 2 4
[05:14] <IdleOne> /help doesn't say
[05:14] <rww> let's find out!
[05:15] <IdleOne> ok!
[05:15] <rww> IdleOne: yes
[05:15] <IdleOne> cool
[05:15] <rww> i wonder if it can deal with five
[05:16] <IdleOne> also /kn is nice for timed bans
[05:16] <rww> also yes!
[05:16] <IdleOne> why have I not been using irssi for the past 12 years :(
[05:17] <rww> IdleOne: autobleh also has /at for timed +q
[05:17] <IdleOne> yup
[05:17] <IdleOne> that I knew
[05:18] <IdleOne> oh, how do I list +q's
[05:18] <rww> /mode #ubuntu q
[05:18] <IdleOne> ok
[05:18]  * rww ponders removing the rest of the proxy user bans
[05:19] <rww> FloodBots aren't banforwarding open proxies any more... so I think I will do that.
[05:20] <IdleOne> one thing I don't like is you have to provide $nick to /op
[05:21] <IdleOne> /op alone should op $me
[05:21] <rww> /alias opup msg chanserv op $C rww
[05:21] <rww> there's probably a variable for current nick. i don't know it.
[05:21] <IdleOne> I don't want to op you :P
[05:21] <rww> (open proxy bans removed)
[05:26] <rww> you should probably just make ##idleone or something ;P
[05:27] <IdleOne> rww: /alias opup msg chanserv op $C $N
[05:27] <rww> ta
[05:27] <IdleOne> and yeah I should
[05:27]  * tonyyarusso ponders the oddity of not having a personal channel
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: I don't know what your script does, but /quote chanserv op #channel ops me without a nick argument.  Nick is needed to deop, since ops can deop other ops.
[05:29] <rww> so it does. i am a noob.
[05:29] <IdleOne> ahhh need to edit my alias then
[05:30] <IdleOne> why does msg chanserv op $C $N send me a PM?
[05:30] <IdleOne> nm
[05:30] <IdleOne> lol
[05:30] <IdleOne> freak myself out sometimes
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> It doesn't; you opened a PM window with chanserv by using /msg.  This is why /quote wins.
[05:30] <IdleOne> yup
[05:30] <rww> hrm
[05:32] <IdleOne> thanks tonyyarusso
[06:19] <nhandler> IdleOne: If you do '^MSG Chanserv foo' (note the ^, a / is not needed), you won't get the PM window. If you are using irssi now, you might want to look into autobleh as well
[08:11] <rww> idoru is twitchy tonight.
[08:11] <Flannel> yeah, I noticed that.
[08:11] <rww> not that I'll miss that nickname, but still.
[08:11] <maco> wow
[08:12] <rww> My cat is powered by static electricity.
[08:12] <maco> i saw that nick in my all-chan thing and was about to come in here and say something when i saw idoru'd done something already
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> all-chan thing?
[08:14] <rww> tonyyarusso: quassel thing, pane at the top of the window with messages from all channels so you can keep an eye on things in general
[08:17] <Flannel> Look at that, h.u.c went back to non-UUID anchors!
[08:17] <maco> h?
[08:17] <rww> help
[08:18] <rww> Canonical-hosted websites, stable URIs, etc.
[08:18] <maco> ah that
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> yeah.......
[08:18] <Flannel> maco: h.u.c vs w.u.c :)
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> I don't remember what it was, but I found a broken link to a pretty darn basic page recently.  :(
[08:18] <rww> although it's a wiki, so stable URIs are kinda out the window, but whatever.
[08:19] <Flannel> rww: yeah, but they used to be UUIDs, as opposed to #the-title-of-the-heading-with-dashes
[08:19] <rww> tonyyarusso: yeah, ubuntu.com got moved around when they changed the site theme. I'm still cranky about it ;P
[08:19] <Flannel> er, they were originally titles (which made them hooman readable), then they were UUIDs, now they're hooman readable again
[15:14] <tsimpson> so, I've been playing with ubottu.com and I put an https version up (https://ubottu.com)
[15:14] <tsimpson> it uses a self-signed certificate, so your browser will likely complain that it's invalid or something, but it should work anyway once you manually accept the certificate
[15:15] <tsimpson> the bot isn't setup to use any of the https links (yet), so if you want a secure connection, you'll need  to modify the url the bot gives you
[15:16]  * tsimpson hopes Myrtti can sleep a little better knowing there is a secure option available now
[15:23] <Myrtti> thank you
[15:24] <Myrtti> silly mobile keyboard
[15:24] <Myrtti> no smileys
[15:25] <Myrtti> I'm sure there are somewhere...
[15:25] <alabd> ikonia:  hello ,  don't you want remove ban ?
[15:29] <ikonia> alabd: no, or I would have done so
[15:30] <alabd> ikonia:can not get what you mean , do you mean it will be ban for ever ? it's about some months ...
[15:30] <ikonia> alabd: I have no intention of removing the ban.
[15:31] <alabd> ikonia: what should i-humble do ?
[15:31] <ikonia> alabd: not use #ubuntu, and use other Linux based channels as you have been doing
[15:32] <alabd> while i-humble am using ubuntu distro ,what channel should be used for support ?
[15:32] <ikonia> alabd: ##linux
[15:32] <ikonia> as you have been using
[15:33] <tsimpson> or try the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/
[15:33] <ikonia> excellent suggestion also
[15:33] <alabd> ##linux can be used for some issues not all , if linux was enough so why is #ubuntu for ?
[15:34] <alabd> tsimpson: http://ubuntuforums.org/ is not irc channel
[15:34] <ikonia> alabd: ##linux can be used for any linux issues
[15:34] <tsimpson> alabd: I am aware
[15:34] <ikonia> alabd: well, you have your answer, you can use ##linux or any other Linux based IRC channel you wish
[15:34] <ikonia> alabd: we are not here to help you find other channels,
[15:35] <alabd> ikonia: is there any rational reason behind banning a person from ubuntu channel for ever ?
[15:35] <ikonia> alabd: yes, I don't believe you can particiapte in the channel,
[15:36] <tsimpson> alabd: bans are never automatically removed, that are only removed when we have some evidence that the person can abide by the channel rules
[15:36] <alabd> particiapte ? how do you know that ? if yes how do i-humble could particiapte in ##linux ?
[15:37] <ikonia> alabd: because you are a persistnat issue in the channel, that got you banned, therefore I don't believe it's the right channel for you
[15:37] <tsimpson> ##linux is not affiliated with #ubuntu, a ban in one does not effect the other
[15:39] <alabd> tsimpson:  yes i-humble mean if ikonia believes that a person can not use #ubuntu truely how could that person  use ##linux truely ?
[15:40] <ikonia> alabd: because they have different rules
[15:40] <tsimpson> #ubuntu and ##linux have different rules, it's up to the operators in ##linux to decide what is and what is not appropriate for their channel
[15:40] <Myrtti> we're not affiliated with that channel and the operators of that channel make their decisions on their own about if you are a constructive member of the community
[15:42] <alabd> reason of my ban in #ubuntu in some month ago was asking unrelated question , i-humble mean if i-humble have asked unrelated questions in ##linux from that time they would ban me also
[15:43] <ikonia> alabd: ask the operators in ##linux
[15:43] <ikonia> alabd: we only control the #ubuntu channels
[15:43] <alabd> so this is an evidence
[15:43] <alabd> is not it ?
[15:43] <Myrtti> of what?
[15:43] <ikonia> alabd: let me make this clar and short
[15:43] <Myrtti> that they have different rules about unrelated questions?
[15:43] <Myrtti> yes, it would be evidence of that
[15:43] <ikonia> alabd: you are banned from the #ubuntu channel, you are welcome to use other channels
[15:44] <ikonia> (irony of miss-typing clear)
[15:46] <alabd> Myrtti:  evidence of that i-humble don't ask unrelated question again , so my behavior will be adapted with #ubuntu rules
[15:46] <ikonia> alabd: there is nothing more to discuss
[15:47] <Myrtti> alabd: no, it's not
[15:47] <ikonia> alabd: please leave this channel and use any other channels that you are not banned from
[15:47] <alabd> Myrtti:  tsimpson so what is evidence ?
[15:47] <Myrtti> moving on...
[15:47] <ikonia> alabd: there is nothing more to discuss
[15:48] <Myrtti> [17:43] <+Myrtti> that they have different rules about unrelated  questions?
[15:48] <tsimpson> alabd: your ban in #ubuntu is not going to be removed today, if there is nothing else, please leave this channel
[15:48] <alabd> tsimpson: ok no problem for today , my question is how and when will ban removed
[15:48] <ikonia> alabd: there is no set date
[15:51] <alabd> now it is about some months ... and i-humble am ubuntu user and need support in irc sometime , ...what should be done for removing ban ? waiting ? up to  ?
[15:51] <ikonia> alabd: there is no set time, you will not be unbanned at this time
[15:51] <tsimpson> access to #ubuntu is not a right, just because you happen to use Ubuntu does not give you automatic access to #ubuntu
[15:54] <jussi> alabd: if you participate correctly in other #ubuntu-* channels, there is a possiblity that you will be unbanned, but we need to see good evidence that you can follow the rules - in our channels
[15:54] <jussi> alabd: for now though, you will not be unbanned.
[15:55] <Hobbsee> possible heads up on Chaos2358.  he's silent in -devel right now, but who knows how long that will stay for
[15:55] <ikonia> Hobbsee: he's known
[15:55] <Hobbsee> ikonia: cool
[15:55] <alabd> jussi thanks but you should know your way is almost impossible because a normal user of ubuntu may require only #ubuntu for support ,are you agreee ?
[15:56]  * Hobbsee still doesn't get why people think insulting a gropu of people is a way to get support
[15:56] <jussi> alabd: no.
[15:56] <alabd> what other channels do you think a ubuntu user may require? jussi
[15:56] <tsimpson> that's besides the point
[15:57] <ikonia> alabd: you've been told ##linux is available
[15:57] <ikonia> alabd: we are not here here to help you find other channels
[15:57] <tsimpson> you are banned in #ubuntu, so you can not join there. you can join other channels if you wish
[15:59] <alabd> tsimpson:  ikonia me and jussi were talking about other ubuntu-* channels
[15:59] <charlie-tca> Hobbsee, +1
[15:59] <ikonia> alabd: the ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu
[16:00] <ikonia> there isn't another ubuntu support channel
[16:00] <ikonia> that's why ##linux was suggested
[16:01] <alabd> ikonia:  you know i-humble have tried to ask some specific ubuntu question in ##linux but they asked me to join #ubuntu , ##linux is not the same as #ubuntu in suorting ubuntu user
[16:02] <ikonia> alabd: stick with it, people will help you,
[16:03] <alabd> in fact ##linux is not equal to #ubuntu in suporting ubuntu user	
[16:03] <ikonia> that's not our issue
[16:03] <ikonia> alabd: you have a choice, use it or don't
[16:04] <ikonia> alabd: now, I think we've made this quiet clear, so if you'd like to leave this channel and go about your IRC day
[16:04] <alabd> ikonia:  :)  , what will be happened if you were persident
[16:04] <ikonia> alabd: I don't know, nor do I care, please leave this channel
[16:05] <alabd> anyway jussi would you answer that question
[16:05] <ikonia> alabd: no, there is nothing more to discuss
[16:05] <tsimpson> alabd: this is not a general discussion channel
[16:06] <alabd> tsimpson:  that was related to this issue see above
[16:06] <alabd> i-humble asked > alabd 12/04/2010 07:25:54 PM
[16:06] <alabd> jussi thanks but you should know your way is almost impossible because a normal user of ubuntu may require only #ubuntu for support ,are you agreee ?
[16:06] <ikonia> alabd: that's not an issue, we have told you the channels and your current situation
[16:06] <tsimpson> we have informed you that the ban will not be removed, there is nothing left to discuss alabd
[16:06] <tsimpson> alabd: he answered with "alabd: no"
[16:06] <alabd> yes
[16:06] <tsimpson> you have the answer, please leave
[16:07] <alabd> and he/she mean a normal user of ubuntu may not require only #ubuntu for support
[16:08] <ikonia> note to the channel he doesn't actually use a stock ubuntu OS, but a very modified version from his friend
[16:08] <Hobbsee> i'm starting to think there should be a drivers licence analogy.  if you lose your licence, it's your problem on how to get home.  the police officer doesn't need to offer you a lift.  as a factoid
[16:08] <Myrtti> ikonia: chaos?
[16:09] <ikonia> Hobbsee: think I've got him calm now
[16:09] <ikonia> alabd: any reason you've come back after you've just been removed from this channel ?
[16:09] <alabd> ikonia: yes
[16:09] <Hobbsee> ikonia: true.  wasn't meaning chaos, though
[16:09] <alabd>  i-humble was talking ... and jussi mean a normal user of ubuntu may not require only #ubuntu for support	
[16:09] <jussi> alabd: wheree are you from?
[16:10] <alabd> would you jussi name 1 other ubuntu-* channel that a ubuntu user may use to be evidence
[16:10] <jussi> alabd: where are you from?
[16:10] <alabd> iran
[16:10] <jussi> alabd: #ubuntu-ir
[16:10] <alabd> and who will show evidence to you?
[16:11] <jussi> Im there...
[16:11] <jussi> ;)
[16:11] <jussi> alabd: will there be anything else?
[16:11] <alabd> always ? some months ago i-humble was there almost everyday to answer people questions , you can check
[16:12] <ikonia> alabd: stop arguing it - accept it and move on
[16:12] <jussi> alabd: go back there, use it for support if you need to.
[16:14] <alabd> jussi no it is not good channel for support because skill users are few in there and they most of times don't know my answer , but i-humble was there in months to answer beginer questions  may be it is good evidence ,is not ?
[16:14] <jussi> no.
[16:14] <ikonia> this is wasting time
[16:14] <ikonia> alabd: you know the situation, accept it
[16:15] <Myrtti> what's with the i-humble?!?!?!!
[16:15] <ikonia> to finish what I was saing, alabd's ubuntu install isn't an clean install, it's modified to work with his odd TV card and other things
[16:15] <jussi> Myrtti: long story...
[16:15] <ikonia> Myrtti: it's his name "humble" it's just a language thing
[16:15] <jussi> it used to be "humble"
[16:15] <ikonia> I can't be bothered arguing the "its not ubuntu any more - so don't get support in #ubuntu" with him, as he just doesn't get it
[16:15] <tsimpson> he uses "humble" in place of "I"
[16:16] <ikonia> thats why I didn't mention it
[16:16] <Myrtti> right
[16:16] <tsimpson> alabd: you have been asked to leave
[16:16] <alabd> jussi was my talks finished ?
[16:16] <alabd> tsimpson:  wait
[16:16] <alabd> jussi said
[16:16] <alabd> jussi 12/04/2010 07:24:14 PM
[16:16] <alabd> alabd: if you participate correctly in other #ubuntu-* channels, there is a possiblity that you will be unbanned, but we need to see good evidence that you can follow the rules - in our channels	
[16:16] <alabd> and i-humble say you can check ubuntu-ir  for evidnece
[16:17] <Myrtti> I think he's down now, boys
[16:17] <tsimpson> meh, your script is fooey
[16:17] <IdleOne> my script is fooey
[16:17] <IdleOne> got a better one?
[16:18] <tsimpson> depends on your client I guess
[16:18] <IdleOne> irssi
[16:18] <tsimpson> then nope :)
[16:18] <jussi> autobleh?
[16:18] <IdleOne> yup
[16:18]  * Myrtti loves her aliases
[16:18]  * jussi huggles his quassel aliases
[16:18] <tsimpson> banning with the ident@cloak just mean they can change their user and evade the ban
[16:19] <IdleOne> I have to change that
[16:19]  * IdleOne gets on it
[16:21] <jussi> mrgh... seems my planet feed isnt working...
[16:21] <jussi> I wonder what happened
[16:22] <topyli> censorship!
[16:24] <Hobbsee> you need to sacrifice another chicken
[16:25] <jussi> meh, Ill fix it soon
[16:25] <Myrtti> or more herring to the holy Tux
[16:25] <jussi> Im going to change my url scheme to a sane one first
[16:26] <Hobbsee> i'd like to put forward http://squee.icanhascheezburger.com/ for the day's viewing
[16:26] <Hobbsee> and for general sanity purposes
[16:26] <jussi> :D
[16:27] <Hobbsee> soooo cute :)
[16:28] <jussi> Hobbsee: you are geting clucky...
[16:28] <Hobbsee> jussi: hehe, i don't want one
[16:28] <Hobbsee> they're just uber-cute
[16:28] <jussi> lol
[16:28] <Hobbsee> i'm forbidden from having a cat, anyway
[16:28] <Hobbsee> and that's my preferred form of cuteness
[16:28] <Hobbsee> so, pictures will do
[16:29] <jussi> so yeah, as my blog goodness is not making it to planet, Id like to point out: http://jussi01.com/
[16:29] <jussi> particularly the first post
[16:29] <Hobbsee> woot
[16:30]  * Hobbsee --> bed
[16:31] <jussi> nini
[16:52] <myrtti_test> that's funny, the user list seems mighty empty from empathy
[17:28] <IdleOne> ahh my window number changed!
[17:29] <IdleOne> is there a way to make them stay always the same?
[17:29] <jussi> /save  ??
[17:29] <IdleOne> hmm
[17:29] <topyli>  /layout save
[17:29] <jussi> I dont remember - too long since i seriously used irssi
[17:29] <jussi> oh, almost
[17:29] <jussi> :)
[17:29] <IdleOne> thank you jussi and topyli
[17:30] <topyli> trust me, i'm having a beer
[17:30] <IdleOne> hehe
[17:30] <jussi> oh beer!!
[17:30] <IdleOne> follow topyli if you want to live
[17:30] <jussi> pass me one!
[17:30] <IdleOne> pass me two, so I don't bother you in 5 minutes
[17:30] <IdleOne> :-)
[17:32]  * topyli hoards
[17:33] <jussi> aawwww
[17:33]  * Jordan_U hurls an intercontinental ballistic beer
[17:34] <Myrtti> ewww beer
[17:34] <Myrtti> tea, or death!
[17:35] <IdleOne> is there alcoholic tea?
[17:35] <topyli> sure there is. just make some tea, add vodka
[17:35] <IdleOne> win!
[17:36] <IdleOne> profit!
[17:36] <IdleOne> start coding!
[17:37] <IdleOne> think I might need to alias qin win
[17:37] <IdleOne> heh
[17:41] <cdbs> oh hi all
[17:41] <IdleOne> morning cdbs
[17:41] <cdbs> Evening IdleOne :D
[17:41] <cdbs> Its best to say 'Good {morning,afternoon,evening}!'
[17:42] <cdbs> It suites all timezones :D
[17:42] <IdleOne> that would involve me typing more and possibly making more typos
[17:42] <Myrtti> UGT
[17:42] <cdbs> Anyone read what WikiLeaks leaked?
[17:42] <Myrtti> http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
[17:42] <IdleOne> So I stick to my time zone and others can do the temporal conversion for themself
[17:42] <Myrtti> !pm > Gabarus
[17:42] <Myrtti> "moin"
[17:43] <IdleOne> I don't read wikileaks, I heard they were going to be leaking some 2000 pages worth of Canadian Gov. docs this week
[17:44] <Myrtti> USA apparently dictated the new Spanish copyright law
[17:44] <cdbs> WikiLeaks.org is currently DDoSed
[17:44] <IdleOne> The secret will be out now. Canada is taking over Turkey and renaming it to Chicken.
[17:44] <cdbs> lol
[17:44] <Myrtti> cdbs: wikileaks.fi may or may not work
[17:44] <IdleOne> wikilieaks.ch
[17:44] <cdbs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_diplomatic_cables_leak read it in a much better format here :D
[17:45] <IdleOne> this is best suited for offtopic though
[17:45] <IdleOne> although I suppose a little chatter between team members is ok
[17:45] <cdbs> hmm
[17:45] <topyli> wer should use swatch time!
[17:45] <IdleOne> swatch? they still make those
[17:46] <jussi> jimmy wales is scary... and -ot is the way to go for this discussion :)
[17:46] <topyli> IdleOne: i doubt it, but i guess the time format is still good
[17:46] <cdbs> Swatch time?
[17:49] <topyli> http://www.timeanddate.com/time/internettime.html
[17:49] <topyli> metric!
[17:53] <IdleOne> so the BMT would be 536.81 beats topyli ?
[17:54] <topyli> right now? i don't know, my swatch is broken :(
[17:55] <topyli> http://www.swatch.com/zz_en/internettime.html
[17:55] <cdbs> :o
[17:59] <topyli> the gnome clock applet no longer has internet time as an option apparently :(
[18:00] <topyli> ah it does, just not in the gui
[18:02] <LjL> need to gconf? :(
[18:02] <LjL> why take away visibility from such an essential option
[18:03] <bazhang> cdbs, hi
[18:03] <cdbs> Hi bazhang
[18:03] <bazhang> cdbs, PM please
[18:03] <cdbs> LjL, topyli: Want me to re-implement it and put it in a PPA?
[18:04] <topyli> nah, the gconf key is enough
[18:04] <LjL> nah feel free to do something more useful :P
[18:04] <topyli> :)
[18:05] <mneptok> it's currently @795
[18:05]  * mneptok has Internet time in his irssi statusbar
[18:07] <topyli> i knew someone besides must be old enough to remember
[18:07] <topyli> besides myself
[18:07] <Myrtti> topyli: naula :-<
[18:07] <Myrtti> *cough*
[18:08] <topyli> oh yes you were in school already :)
[18:08]  * topyli hides
[18:08] <Myrtti> can I tell dallen to install mp3blaster :-D
[18:11] <topyli> well it's still supported!
[18:12] <IdleOne> it is in the repos
[18:13] <Myrtti> yes, sure, but it's a ncurses player ;-)
[18:15] <IdleOne> ncurses: because you will use it n curse
[18:17] <topyli> :)
[18:17] <bazhang> that grubed is a script that's been around since gutsy
[18:18] <Myrtti> bazhang: is it safe in any level?
[18:18] <bazhang> Myrtti, not sure about safe, but not very capable/usable compared with grub2 (even the gui PPA are better at this point)
[18:19] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228104&page=26
[18:21] <IdleOne> that thread says it doesn't work with grub2 anyway
[18:21] <bazhang> yeppers
[18:22] <bazhang> that would be last non-supported way to go. omgubuntu or webupd8 would precede that
[18:50] <IdleOne> the !nvidia factoid should point to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers (or whatever it is called now) before sending to binary howto.
[18:51] <jrib> IdleOne: the page points to that (doesn't it)
[18:51] <IdleOne> not sure
[18:51] <jrib> it does
[18:51] <IdleOne> ok
[18:51] <IdleOne> never mind me then
[18:52] <jrib> IdleOne: mentioning it in the factoid wouldn't hurt
[18:53] <IdleOne> you have the correct path to add to the edit? I'm running +1
[18:53] <IdleOne> not to mention I don't have factoid edit rights
[18:56] <IdleOne> How dare they ask for a distro recommendation other the Ubuntu!
[18:56] <IdleOne> UBUNTU 4 LIFE!
[18:56] <bazhang> mint!
[18:58] <jrib> IdleOne: on Lucid, it's what you said, I don't know about lucid
[18:59] <IdleOne> jrib: for now the factoid does point to the "default" way of installing nvidia drivers. I'll make a note to look up and make edit later
[19:00] <jrib> k, sounds good
[19:00] <IdleOne> wrong X?
[19:00] <IdleOne> heh
[19:01] <jussi> knome: #ubuntu-offtopic!!
[19:27] <Tm_T> !
[19:27]  * Tm_T hides
[19:43] <bazhang> trojanised version?
[19:47] <IdleOne> "hacked"
[19:48] <IdleOne> but I doubt it made it into the repos even if it was hacked
[20:02] <bazhang> he's trolling two channels (well one now)
[20:03] <IdleOne> who?
[20:04] <bazhang> iBeef
[20:05] <IdleOne> oh
[20:05] <IdleOne> he's harassing #windows now?
[20:05] <bazhang> lots of entries for very close IP addy's
[20:05] <IdleOne> patience is definitely something they should teach in school
[20:06] <rww> mornin'
[20:07] <bazhang> hi
[20:07] <IdleOne> morning to you sir
[20:08] <IdleOne> !lubuntu is <reply> /win 34
[20:08] <IdleOne> oops
[20:10] <IdleOne> damn it!
[20:10] <IdleOne> can someone add << /join #lubuntu >> to that
[20:10] <bazhang> !lubuntu
[20:10] <IdleOne> my irssi skills are failing me :)
[20:12] <nhandler> ubottu: !lubuntu =~ s/$/ . \/join #lubuntu for lubuntu support./
[20:12] <nhandler> ubottu: !lubuntu =~ s/$/ . \/join #lubuntu for lubuntu support./
[20:12] <IdleOne> hahaha
[20:12] <IdleOne> ok I'm done
[20:13] <bazhang> :0
[20:13] <IdleOne> thank you nhandler
[20:14] <nhandler> !lubuntu | IdleOne
[20:14] <IdleOne> looks good and thanks again
[20:15] <nhandler> You're welcome IdleOne
[20:40] <IdleOne> btw chanserv.py now has timed bans and +q
[20:41] <IdleOne> git your new version
[20:41] <topyli> ooh
[20:45] <bazhang> really?
[20:45] <bazhang> !chanserv.py
[20:46] <IdleOne> that isn't good
[20:46] <IdleOne> https://github.com/seveas/chanserv.py/raw/master/chanserv.py
[20:46] <IdleOne> bazhang: yes, really
[20:47] <IdleOne> /cs b -tSECONDS nick and /cs mute -tSECONDS NICK
[20:48] <IdleOne> so I spent all night setting up irssi to come back to xchat
[20:48] <IdleOne> oh, how I missed you xchat *huggles*
[20:48] <rww> >.>
[20:48] <nhandler> IdleOne: I thought you said you'd give irssi a fair chance ;)
[20:48] <IdleOne> nhandler: I will
[20:49] <IdleOne> I still have it setup and running :P
[20:49] <IdleOne> two clients one nick
[20:49] <IdleOne> gotta love bouncers
[20:49]  * rww sshes into IdleOne's computer, installs KDE and Quassel
[20:49] <IdleOne> lol
[20:49] <IdleOne> I have a no kde block
[20:50] <rww> heh. I have no libgtk stuff on mine ;P
[20:50] <IdleOne> besides you will never guess my password is rwwisthebestest1
[20:50] <IdleOne> hey that show be ***********
[20:50] <IdleOne> should*
[20:51] <rww> That's mc44's nickserv password. More proof that you're the same person :(
[20:51] <topyli> IdleOne: that's a pretty common password here, you might want something more difficult to guess
[20:51]  * IdleOne changes pass to rwwmakesmewanna_punchhim
[20:51] <bazhang> IdleOne, /cs m -t300 nick for five minutes then?
[20:52] <IdleOne> bazhang: yes but you need to use mute and not m
[20:52] <IdleOne> for some reason it doesn't work with m
[20:52] <bazhang> IdleOne, thanks
[20:52] <IdleOne> if you use m it will -t the channel
[20:52] <bazhang> hehe
[20:52] <IdleOne> yeah
[20:52] <IdleOne> not good
[20:53] <IdleOne> chanserv would kick in and set it again though
[20:53] <IdleOne> but still not good
[20:53]  * rww snuggles /at
[20:54] <nhandler> Yep, autobleh lets you set a default timeout as well as specify a per-quiet timeout
[20:55] <rww> How do you do per-quiet ones?
[20:56] <topyli> something like /at 5 rww
[20:56] <topyli> five minutes
[20:57] <nhandler> Nah, looks like it would be /at rww 300
[20:58] <nhandler> Yep, that is it
[20:59] <topyli> ah
[21:27] <knome> jussi, wut?
[21:27] <jussi> knome: nothing anymore. all good.
[21:28] <knome> jussi, right... now it got interesting?
[21:29] <jussi> knome: we were collecting finns in -ot. nothing more.
[21:29] <knome> jussi, a-ha... :P too bad i was away :P
[21:31] <knome> jussi, i mean saturday evening @9pm, who is ircing then? ;)
[21:31] <jussi> lol, me - sari is at work and Im stuck at home without a car
[21:32] <knome> now wait a sec - we don't even have a car !
[21:32] <jussi> yeah, but you live in the city...
[21:32] <knome> yeah. but it's 7 minutes walking to the train station!
[21:33] <knome> from where it takes 10 minutes to be at absolute city centre of helsinki!
[21:33] <knome> (way too far!!)
[21:33] <jussi> haha
[21:33] <jussi> its 6km to the bus stop and 25km to the city for me...
[21:33] <knome> another choice is to take the 5 minute walk to the bus stop plus a 15 minute bus trip, but that's a bit slow...
[21:37] <IdleOne> the time you guys spent talking about it on irc you could of been there already
[21:37] <IdleOne> just saying :)
[21:37]  * IdleOne pokes jussi in the stomach with a knome 
[21:38]  * jussi sits on IdleOne
[21:38]  * IdleOne rocks back and forth singing lullaby to jussi 
[21:38] <knome> IdleOne, nah, i only just came home ;) with train from a city not next to helsinki ;)
[21:38] <jussi> lol
[21:39] <IdleOne> go to sleep, my little jussi, time for daddy to start drinking.....la lala la la lala
[21:40] <knome> aww
[21:49] <rww> IdleOne: could have :(
[22:12] <IdleOne> heh
[23:41] <ikonia> emma is actually ban dodging in #xubuntu (although I don't think it's intentional as the ban appears to be old and on emma) as she is currently using the nickname em
[23:49] <ikonia> and in #ubuntu-women
[23:49] <ikonia> not sure if it's intended at emma or another issue
[23:52] <IdleOne> just looks like old bans
[23:52] <IdleOne> I don't recall her being banned recently
[23:52] <IdleOne> in -women
[23:53] <ikonia> well, that's what I'm trying to find out, as they are old bans, she wouldn't need to be banned as she would be banned if she was using the nickname that's banned
[23:56] <rww> I don't see her as banned in #ubuntu-women?
[23:56] <Pici> me either.
[23:56] <ikonia> BT shows her as
[23:56] <rww> BT is wrong, then ;)
[23:57] <Pici> If ubottu missed the unban, then it'll be innacurate.
[23:57] <ikonia> add offtopic, I agree that's probably wrong from what you're saying
[23:57] <ikonia> I can see it in the ban list in #xubuntu
[23:58] <ikonia> it's obvious she's reading the logs as she's just changed nicks and rejoined #xubuntu and #ubuntu-women, but she won't respond to my request to see if she knows what this was about
[23:58] <rww> logs for this channel haven't updated since you brought it up
[23:58] <Pici> ikonia: knows if what was about?
[23:59] <IdleOne> she has also just changed her ident
[23:59] <Pici> She was banned across the entire namespace at one point.
[23:59] <rww> (though they will in the next < 5 minutes)
[23:59] <ikonia> Pici: if she knew if it was her that had been banned or not
[23:59] <ikonia> Pici: yes, but not sure if that's the same thing in #xubuntu
[23:59] <Pici> ikonia: it likely is.
[23:59] <ikonia> it does look quite old
[23:59] <IdleOne> hmm wait, I;m wrong
[23:59] <Pici> IdleOne: you need to reconnect to change your ident.