[00:02] <bryceh> Sarvatt, they opened port 80
[00:05] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, why can't libvdpau be moved to universe?
[00:15] <Sarvatt> there were things in main depending on it, but heck if I can find what it was now
[00:16] <Sarvatt> ffmpeg I think
[00:17] <Sarvatt> yep it build-deps on libvdpau-dev
[01:44] <bryceh> Sarvatt, hey I've got fglrx on natty now, if you still need testing
[01:44] <Sarvatt> any reason we need xorg-docs in main?
[01:45] <bryceh> can't seem to get unity running on it
[01:45] <Sarvatt> libservlet2.4-java (universe/libs)
[01:45] <Sarvatt> fop (universe/text)
[01:45] <Sarvatt> xml-commons-external (universe/libs)
[01:45] <Sarvatt> batik (universe/misc)
[01:45] <Sarvatt> ant1.7 (universe/java)
[01:45] <Sarvatt> xmlgraphics-commons (universe/libs) build deps :(
[01:45] <bryceh> Sarvatt, not something that seems to get a lot of use
[01:45] <Sarvatt> bryceh: any chance ya could try xorg-edgers and move your xorg.conf aside, or rebuild whats in git with the 105 patch enabled?
[01:46] <bryceh> sure
[01:46] <bryceh> are those new deps or did they get bumped out of main?
[01:46] <Sarvatt> new deps for pdf's
[01:47] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-docs/+bug/682621
[01:47] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 682621 in xorg-docs (Ubuntu) "FTBFS new dependency on fop (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Fix released]
[01:47] <bryceh> anything depend on xorg-docs?
[01:47] <Sarvatt> not sure that delta is worth carrying instead of just shoving it in universe, but need to look more
[01:47] <bryceh> if not, and if we don't ship it on the cd, then probably best to demote
[01:48] <bryceh> Sarvatt, btw did you ever manage to get unity up?
[01:49] <Sarvatt> yeah it's working fine now but was a major headache, dont even know how I fixed it and its getting broken again every update
[01:50] <Sarvatt> anything stick out in ~/.xsession-errors?
[01:52] <bryceh> nope
[01:55] <Sarvatt> ah xterm and xorg need xorg-docs, whoops
[01:57] <Sarvatt> bryceh: you already nuke ~/.config/compiz-1 and/or ~/compiz-1?
[01:57] <Sarvatt> do you see it trying to load stuff like the text plugin for compiz in ~/.xsession-errors?
[01:59] <bryceh> maybe those dependencies can be broken
[01:59] <bryceh> they might be there only to keep docs in the archive
[02:00] <bryceh> alright, test box is upgraded to xorg-edgers
[02:00] <bryceh> apt-
[02:01] <bryceh> root@dorset:~# apt-cache policy fglrx
[02:01] <bryceh> fglrx:
[02:01] <bryceh>   Installed: 2:8.780-0ubuntu3
[02:01] <bryceh>   Candidate: 2:8.780-0ubuntu3
[02:01] <bryceh>   Version table:
[02:01] <bryceh>  *** 2:8.780-0ubuntu3 0
[02:01] <bryceh>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/restricted i386 Packages
[02:01] <bryceh>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:01] <Sarvatt> fglrx version doesn't matter, just need 0ubuntu0sarvatt2 of xorg-servr
[02:01] <bryceh> fglrx didn't get updated?
[02:01] <bryceh> aha
[02:01] <Sarvatt> nah i only update that in x-updates
[02:01] <bryceh> ok, rebooting
[02:01] <Sarvatt> i use both ppas at once for blobs
[02:02] <bryceh> interesting
[02:02] <bryceh> this box takes a long time to reboot, I think there's a dead drive in it
[02:02] <Sarvatt> kinda why i dont like the artificial xserver abi's added to the nvidia and fglrx packages since they work on multiple abi's :)
[02:05] <Sarvatt> removing the xorg.conf install from fglrx/nvidia will be a jockey change
[02:06] <bjsnider> if someone still decides to use xorg.conf it will nbot break things in natty will it?
[02:06] <Sarvatt> nope wont affect it at all
[02:06] <bjsnider> you mean it will be ignored?
[02:06] <Sarvatt> no it'll be used
[02:06] <bryceh> jockey-gtk didn't work for me, I had to use jockey-text for some reason
[02:07] <bryceh> wow, the boot logo is fuuugly with fglrx
[02:07] <bryceh> Sarvatt, ok, well it looks like X came up same as before
[02:07] <Sarvatt> \o/
[02:08] <Sarvatt> you removed your xorg.conf right?
[02:08] <bryceh> fglrx, no xorg.conf :-)
[02:08] <Sarvatt> yay
[02:09] <Sarvatt> bryceh: thanks a ton for testing that, my fglrx box is on lucid still and need to upgrade it
[02:09] <bryceh> bryce@dorset:~$ ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; dmesg | grep taints ; grep fglrx /var/log/Xorg.0.log | wc -l
[02:09] <bryceh> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[02:09] <bryceh> [  223.513489] fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
[02:09] <bryceh> 257
[02:09] <bryceh> bryce@dorset:~$ 
[02:09] <Sarvatt> can I see your xorg.0.log?
[02:09] <bryceh> sure
[02:10] <bryceh> http://pastebin.com/964PBpSD
[02:11] <Sarvatt> bryceh: cool, get a new GPU?
[02:11] <bryceh> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood [Radeon HD 5670]
[02:12] <bryceh> Sarvatt, this is just my test box
[02:12] <bryceh> I'm always chunking cards in and out of it
[02:15] <Sarvatt> hmm, just realized my gpu isn't supported by nouveau and nouveau probes before nvidia does in my xorg.0.log, need to test this on something nouveau supports to be sure it bails right
[02:16] <Sarvatt> actually it should be fine, kernel module wont load with nvidia there so it should bail always anyway
[02:16] <bryceh> yay, http://www.bryceharrington.org/cgi-bin/send_upstream.cgi back online
[02:16] <bryceh> (just had to reinstall bzutils... shoulda done that months ago)
[02:17] <Sarvatt> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/xserver/xorg-server.git;a=commit;h=a06d0a60a91b7eb2e6915a8721349106f5ed0e07 is the patch, its commented out in the series for now
[02:17] <bryceh> alright... unity
[02:18] <bryceh> Sarvatt, you going to post to ubuntu-x@ about confless fglrx?
[02:18] <bryceh> Sarvatt, betcha get your name on phoronix
[02:18] <Sarvatt> thats why I dont post there, we're all here :)
[02:19] <Sarvatt> (except tormod!)
[02:20] <bryceh> ok so what I'm seeing with unity is I get the background image and the mouse cursor, and I can launch (undecorated) client apps externally
[02:20] <Sarvatt> it was just the darn DefaultDepth option stopping the proprietary drivers from working
[02:20] <Sarvatt> yep that sounds on par with every failure i've had with it so far :)
[02:20] <Sarvatt> lemme see ~/.xsession-errors
[02:21] <bryceh> first I'm trying...  $ DISPLAY=:0 compiz
[02:21] <Sarvatt> actually, undecorated? so g-s-d crashed?
[02:21] <Sarvatt> thats what happened to me with today's updates
[02:21] <bryceh> it works fine with gnome classic tho
[02:22] <bryceh> bryce     1542  0.0  0.5  99836 11172 ?        Ssl  18:07   0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon
[02:22] <bryceh> appears to be running
[02:22] <Sarvatt> did compiz load at the beginning of your ~/.xsession-errors?
[02:22] <bryceh> .xsession-errors - http://pastebin.com/THBL2Nec
[02:22] <Sarvatt> it doesn't migrate you right if you werent using compiz before upgrading from what I saw
[02:23] <Sarvatt> yep you were using metacity before migrating
[02:23] <bryceh> aha
[02:23] <Sarvatt> gconf-editor, umm
[02:23] <Sarvatt>  /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager
[02:23] <Sarvatt> change to compiz
[02:24] <bryceh> alrighty
[02:25] <Sarvatt> saw people say making metacity work was an a2 target..
[02:25] <Sarvatt> you dont get a gnome-panel unless you start compiz (thats why classic works)
[02:25] <bryceh> ok so not worth reporting?
[02:25] <Sarvatt> or classic sets the panel to gnome-panel, can't remember which it was
[02:26] <bryceh> hmm, that didn't seem to do it
[02:26] <bryceh> should I also set panel to something other than gnome-panel?
[02:26] <bryceh> also, not seeing any compiz process
[02:27] <Sarvatt> you're starting a classic session?
[02:27] <bryceh> no, trying to get unity
[02:27] <Sarvatt> thought the panel should be '' in a gnome desktop (unity) session, hmm
[02:27] <bryceh> I'll try that
[02:27] <Sarvatt> i wouldn't..
[02:27] <bryceh> too late
[02:28] <bryceh> wow, didn't like that
[02:28] <Sarvatt> if it started a classic session again like i think it did you wont get a gnome-panel in it
[02:29] <bryceh> ah duh
[02:29] <bryceh> still no go
[02:30] <bryceh> and gnome-session[2810]: WARNING: Unable to find provider '' of required component 'panel'
[02:30] <Sarvatt> i get that in a unity session that works right
[02:33] <Sarvatt> you could try loading compiz, running ccsm and enabling the unity plugin just to try it out
[02:33] <bryceh> probably I should just do a reinstall
[02:33] <Sarvatt> i think the gconf changes need a reboot to stick now btw, last time I fixed it they did at least..
[02:34] <Sarvatt> well guess not since your panel change didn't
[02:35] <bryceh> aha, it's a compiz crash
[02:35] <bryceh> bryce@dorset:~$ DISPLAY=:0 compiz
[02:35] <bryceh> Couldn't find a perfect decorator match; trying all decorators
[02:35] <bryceh> Starting gtk-window-decorator
[02:35] <bryceh> compiz: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/compiz/libdecoration.so: undefined symbol: decor_property_to_quads
[02:36] <bryceh> bryce     3666  0.0  0.0   1896   492 ?        Ss   18:35   0:00 /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
[02:37] <Sarvatt> i dont even have a /usr/lib/compiz/libdecoration.so, its /usr/lib/libdeco.so
[02:37] <Sarvatt> libdecor.so
[02:38] <Sarvatt> dpkg -S /usr/lib/compiz/libdecoration.so
[02:38] <bryceh> compiz-plugins
[02:38] <Sarvatt> whats the version on that?
[02:38] <bryceh> compiz-plugins:
[02:38] <bryceh>   Installed: 1:0.8.6-0ubuntu12
[02:38] <bryceh>   Candidate: 1:0.9.2.1+glibmainloop2-0ubuntu4
[02:38] <bryceh> aha
[02:39] <bryceh> hmm
[02:39] <bryceh> The following packages have been kept back:
[02:39] <bryceh>   apport-gtk bind9-host binfmt-support compiz compiz-core compiz-fus...
[02:39] <Sarvatt> aptitude why-not compiz-plugins?
[02:39] <bryceh> I'm dist-upgrading
[02:39] <Sarvatt> err
[02:39] <Sarvatt> ah
[02:39] <bryceh> yeah
[02:40] <bryceh> silly incomplete upgrade :-/
[02:40] <Sarvatt> you didn't dist-upgrade to natty?
[02:41] <bryceh> guess not
[02:44] <Sarvatt> ppa-purge works again on natty in case you go to downgrade btw
[02:48] <bryceh> aha, the currently active user on bug 682712 is on lucid with natty kernel too
[02:48] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 682712 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "x server crashes with: [drm:i915_gem_mmap_gtt_ioctl] *ERROR* Attempting to mmap a purgeable buffer (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682712
[02:50] <bryceh> bit of irony in his last comment about not wanting to jeopardize stability
[02:53] <Sarvatt> bryceh: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=a44a63d2ff6c01c3dc61de6f736dd441ddd25e52 fixes a really specific hang that I notice through the IPEHR and the intel_error_decode output, I dont think its related to that bug
[02:55] <Sarvatt> IPEHR is 0x01820000 (or similar) and the batchbuffer always hangs in MI_WAIT_FOR_EVENT
[02:55] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/683992
[02:55] <Sarvatt> they all look exactly like that
[02:55] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 683992 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[arrandale] GPU lockup 9ce07484 (IPEHR: 0x01820000) (dup-of: 626967)" [Undecided,New]
[02:55] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 626967 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[arrandale] GPU lockup 85a8ad2d (IPEHR: 0x01820000) (affects: 8) (dups: 20) (heat: 120)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[02:58] <bryceh> Sarvatt, oh, I must have misunderstood when you mentioned it previously
[02:58] <Sarvatt> sorry about that, I probably mentioned it when you were talking about the other bug
[03:08] <Sarvatt> jcristau: you may want to pick up that commit for squeeze, we've had a crazy amount of bugs about it
[03:08] <Sarvatt> ah hah!
[03:09] <Sarvatt> IPEHR: 0x01800002 is the same thing on GM45
[03:13] <Sarvatt> cool, here comes another 30-40 dupes on that bug
[03:14] <xelister> hello
[03:14] <xelister> it seems Ubuntu provides a broken version of fglrx
[03:14] <xelister> doesnt work properly with OpenCL it seems
[03:18] <ion> Are non-broken versions of fglrx supposed to exist?
[03:20] <Sarvatt> opencl is a separate download afaik, you have to install it yourself http://developer.amd.com/gpu/ATIStreamSDK/Pages/default.aspx#five
[03:25] <Sarvatt> bryceh: would you mind accepting the nominations on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/626967 so I can close natty as fix released?
[03:25] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 626967 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "MASTER: Hang in MI_WAIT_FOR_EVENT on framebuffer switch. (affects: 11) (dups: 23) (heat: 170)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[03:26] <bryceh> Sarvatt, done
[03:27] <Sarvatt> thanks a ton
[03:29] <Sarvatt> oh hell, closing the natty bug makes it stop showing up in a default search even though the maverick one is open?!
[03:29] <bryceh> yes
[03:29] <Sarvatt> guess I better bookmark it then
[03:31] <xelister> ion: debian appears to not have this bug
[03:32] <xelister> how to get a catalyst 10.10 (not-beta)  driver (fglrx) for ubuntu 10.10 x64 installed?
[03:38] <bryceh> weird, keyboard repeat just now quit working
[03:39] <bryceh> that's annoying
 xelister: the bug is ubuntu is a bunch of fags who DEMAND AMD hand over broken drivers so they can package them and ship them out
[03:41] <xelister> lol >_>
[03:41] <xelister> no seriously, can we get proper 10.10 driver in ubuntu? some stuff is broken with current fglrx
[05:15] <vish_> !test
[05:15] <ubot4`> Failed!
[05:15] <vish_> ha!
[05:16] <vish_> i'm trying to debug a freeze,  i'm looking at : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing#Debugging%20Hangs%20/%20Freezes%20/%20Lockups
[05:17] <vish_> after gdb breakpoint , is it gdb cont or gdb run?
[05:19] <vish_> also, xorg.0.log does not mention anything helpful :s , but the freeze occurs mainly when i'm scrolling..   any clue as to what the function-name can be?
[05:35] <bjsnider> xelister, i'm shocked that naything is broken in fglrx, or any linux graphics driver. but especially fglrx, which is known for its supreme stability and excellent features, not to mention timely delivery.
[05:36] <bjsnider> if there are any bugs in fglrx, this will be the first i've ever heard of it
[05:37] <xelister> bjsnider: are you kidding me
[05:37] <xelister> bjsnider: lockups very often. even on switching virtual terminals
[05:38] <xelister> and opencl bitcoin miners is giving wrong results it seems (so opencl -> AMD stream support appears broken) on radeon 5790
[05:41] <bjsnider> well, i'll have to go and re-evaluate my worldview, because my faith in the world has been deeply shaken
[07:19] <bryceh> bjsnider, ;-)
[10:50] <jcristau> Sarvatt: thanks for the heads up
[11:55] <xelister> so.. how to use the 10.11 catalyst drivers on ubuntu?