[03:28] <virtu> hi
[04:45] <virtu> http://www.4shared.com/audio/35XLDtYW/Ascension_-_Concert_Grand_and_.html
[07:32] <ailo> Anyone else testing Ubuntustudio alpha, here?
[07:33] <holstein> not yet
[07:34] <holstein> i hear the gnome session is a bit funky right now
[07:34] <holstein> with the unity switch happening in the main buntu
[07:36] <ailo> yeah. I just tried logging in into unity, but there was no panels. "Classic Desktop" worked fine, though.
[07:36] <holstein> yup
[07:36] <holstein> thats being updated AFAIK
[07:39] <ailo> I saw some new tasksel's, but choosing all of them did not work.
[07:40] <ailo> During install, I mean.
[07:41] <holstein> ailo: yeah
[07:41] <holstein> it'll be automatic
[07:41] <holstein> i think we'll lose unity
[07:41] <holstein> and stay with gnome
[07:41] <holstein> maybe have both
[07:42] <holstein> im not totally sure
[07:44] <holstein> ailo: im about to check out remmina
[08:08] <ailo> holstein: Where do we report bugs? Can't get Alessio's low-latency kernel to install. Apt complains about not being able to install headers.
[08:09] <ailo> The headers package is in the list, but for some reason it won't install.
[08:11] <ailo> I found https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio, where you can report bugs.
[08:12] <ailo> Alessio doesn't seem to have a "Report bug" option in his launchpad pages.
[15:23] <holstein> ailo: we just report in LP
[15:23] <holstein> same as normal ubuntu
[15:24] <holstein> ScottL: did you see ^^
[15:24] <holstein> 03:08 < ailo> holstein: Where do we report bugs? Can't get Alessio's low-latency kernel to install. Apt complains about not  being able to install headers.
[15:24] <holstein> ^
[15:24] <holstein> ailo: 32bit?
[15:28] <ScottL> thanks holstein
[15:28] <ScottL> i believe the -lowlatency he is talking about is pulled from abogani's ppa
[15:28] <ScottL> we will need to talk directly to him
[15:29] <ScottL> if someone does file a bug then we should _subscribe_ him to the bug (not assign him to the bug)
[15:29] <ScottL> otherwise we probably need to email alessio directly
[15:30] <ScottL> which can be accomplished from the "Contact This Person" button on his launchpad page
[15:31] <holstein> OIC
[15:31] <holstein> ailo: yeah, if you added abogani's PPA
[15:31] <holstein> we'll just have to get a message to him
[15:32] <holstein> and make sure he knows about it
[15:57] <ed__> hi everybody
[15:58] <ed__> I have a problem with ardour
[15:58] <holstein> hey ed__
[15:58] <holstein> whats up?
[15:59] <ed__> hi holstein, i'm trying to hook up hydrogen to ardour. i can record the track, but hear no output (unless i play the recorded track back)
[15:59] <holstein> ed__: you want to 'monitor' the hydrogen playback?
[16:00] <holstein> while recording?
[16:00] <ed__> holstein, yes, and monitor it when not recording or playing back
[16:00] <holstein> this can be done in ardour itself, but you would need to ask in #ardour for specifics
[16:00] <holstein> the way i do this
[16:00] <holstein> i just route the tracks
[16:00] <holstein> in jack control
[16:01] <holstein> to whatever im monitoring with
[16:01] <holstein> my sound card*
[16:01] <holstein> and route them to the tracks i want to record them on as well
[16:02] <holstein> spliting them so ardour and I can both hear them
[16:02] <ed__> holstein, i have hydrogen outs into audio1 in1 and in2. and the audio 1 out1 and out into master in1 and in2, master out1 and out2 to playback in1 and in2
[16:03] <holstein> right
[16:03] <holstein> ed__: but, those labels are not persistent
[16:03] <ed__> shouldn't i be able to hear hydrogen?
[16:03] <holstein> different for me
[16:03] <holstein> SO it might take me a minute to figure out what is what
[16:03] <holstein> ed__: i would say
[16:04] <holstein> on the right side
[16:04] <holstein> playback 1 and 2
[16:04] <holstein> *should* be your sound card
[16:04] <holstein> and going out from hydrogen to those *should* let you hear them
[16:04] <holstein> regardless of ardour
[16:04] <holstein> SO lets try and get that happening
[16:05] <holstein> and go from there
[16:05] <ed__> holstein, ok, but please note, i have system capture out1 and out2 routed the exact same way and i can hear my bass just fine
[16:05] <holstein> right
[16:05] <holstein> this should work
[16:05] <holstein> and could be a hydrogen bug
[16:05] <holstein> ive had issues with ht
[16:05] <holstein> it*
[16:05] <holstein> before
[16:05] <holstein> not often though
[16:06] <holstein> ed__: AFAIK hydrogen is always in RC status
[16:06] <holstein> like google or something ;)
[16:06] <holstein> ed__: i know there is a setting in hydrogen
[16:07] <holstein> to make a separate output per instrument
[16:07] <holstein> i like that
[16:07] <holstein> *preffer
[16:07] <ed__> holstein, ok thanx, but something must be buggy, because i think you should be able to monitor your tracks
[16:07] <holstein> not that that is going to fix the issue
[16:07] <holstein> ed__: you can
[16:07] <holstein> and i dont think its an issue in ardour
[16:07] <holstein> BUT i could be wrong
[16:07] <holstein> i just route
[16:08] <holstein> in JACK
[16:08] <holstein> and dont have ardour do that
[16:08] <holstein> but there is a button that i unclick
[16:08] <holstein> 'auto output' or something like that
[16:08] <holstein> its a green button on the ardour panel
[16:09] <holstein> and i think that routes to the 'audition' outputs
[16:09] <holstein> that show up in JACK
[16:10] <holstein> ed__: if i were you
[16:10] <ed__> holstein, i am routing with patchage, have been trying various routings, checking the routings in ardour and except for the source (capture or hydrogen) they are the same
[16:10] <holstein> i would close everything
[16:10] <holstein> open only JACK and hydrogen
[16:10] <holstein> and try to make those connections using JACK 'connect' instead of patchage
[16:10] <holstein> try to reduce the variables
[16:10] <holstein> and then go from there
[16:11] <ed__> holstein, already done that, in that scenario hydrogen works fine
[16:11] <holstein> ed__: cool
[16:11] <holstein> SO
[16:11] <holstein> you open ardour?
[16:11] <ed__> holstein, yes
[16:11] <holstein> and you cant hear hydrogen anymore?
[16:12] <holstein> again, i would try this without patchage
[16:12] <holstein> just to make sure
[16:12] <ed__> holstein, when i start hydrogen it automatically connect hydrogen outs to system playback
[16:14] <holstein> hydrogen is already running right?
[16:14] <holstein> with JACK running
[16:14] <holstein> without patchage open
[16:14] <holstein> get hydrogen running
[16:14] <holstein> making sounds
[16:14] <holstein> then
[16:14] <holstein> fire up ardour
[16:14] <holstein> and double check the connections in 'connect'
[16:15] <holstein> and see whats happening
[16:15] <ed__> when i then start ardour, system capture is automatically connect to adour audio1 in 1 and in2, master out and audition out routed to system playback
[16:15] <holstein> ed__: right
[16:15] <holstein> and thats probably what you want
[16:15] <holstein> i usually unplug everything
[16:15] <holstein> and do it myself
[16:17] <ed__> holstein, just a sec, i'm going to try something
[16:19] <ed__> holstein, well the level meters in the master bus are showing sound levels, but no sounds coming out on master bus out
[16:20] <ed__> holstein, master bus out -> system playback
[16:21] <holstein> ed__: so you get no sounds at all from ardour?
[16:21] <holstein> after recording something?
[16:22] <ed__> holstein, hydrogen can be recorded, and when you play it back you get sound. i just cannot here it while recording
[16:22] <holstein> ed__: you can hear hydrogen while ardour is not open>
[16:22] <holstein> ?
[16:22] <ed__> holstein, yes
[16:23] <holstein> and the routing is the same?
[16:23] <holstein> now?
[16:23] <holstein> double check hydrogens routing in JACK
[16:23] <holstein> ed__: for my workflow
[16:24] <holstein> i would have all the hydrogen outs routed to my card and to the tracks i want to record
[16:24] <holstein> ardour might change that when you launch it
[16:24] <ed__> no, i've routed hydrogen out to adour track1 in, and ardour track1 out to ardour moniter in, and ardour monitor out to system->playback. this works when i use system->capture for the input
[16:24] <holstein> ed__: right
[16:25] <holstein> just route hydrogen right to the card
[16:25] <holstein> split its outs
[16:25] <holstein> to both sources
[16:25] <ed__> holstein, yes, i guess that will be what i have to do
[16:25] <holstein> ed__: thats the way i preffer to do it
[16:25] <holstein> if you want to use ardour for monitoring, you should ask in #ardour
[16:25] <holstein> i cant remember why i didnt like it
[16:25] <ed__> holstein,  ok thanks for the help
[16:26] <holstein> OH, if i want to stick a reverb on
[16:26] <holstein> or something
[16:26] <holstein> just for tracking
[16:26] <holstein> this is easier i find
[16:26] <holstein> i get a seperated 'line' that i can mess with
[16:26] <holstein> that doesnt go to tape
[16:27] <holstein> ed__: also ask in #opensourcemusicians :)
[16:27]  * holstein gotta run to the LUG meeting :)
[16:27] <holstein> bbl..
[16:27] <ed__> holstein, ok, thanks again
[20:55] <domjohnson> Does Ubuntu Studio boot by default into the rt kernel?
[20:56] <holstein> domjohnson: nope
[20:56] <domjohnson> OK
[20:56] <holstein> domjohnson: theres a trick to getting a realtime kernel in 10.10
[20:56] <domjohnson> Just seems a little unstable
[20:57] <holstein> http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick
[20:57]  * holstein gotta run...
[20:57] <holstein> BBL