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=== Geo|away is now known as MrAnthrope
stratoshello guys00:27
phillwhiyas stratos00:27
stratosI am having a sudden problem with my Dell laptop could I ask here for help ?00:28
phillwstratos: if there is a dell user on, I'm sure they will jump in, but there is dedicated area on the main support forum for dell computers at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=342 you may find them faster to answer.00:30
=== harrisonk_away is now known as harrisonk
stratosThere are already threads there reffering to the problem but none replied to them till now :(00:31
harrisonkstratos did you see the topic?00:32
zkriesse!ask00:32
ubot2Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:32
stratoswhich topic?00:33
harrisonk /topic00:34
harrisonkthat should get you what I want to show you00:34
stratos????00:35
harrisonk!ask00:35
ubot2Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:35
harrisonkstratos ^^00:35
stratosI lost you :P what do you want me to do?:P00:36
harrisonkstratos what is the problem?00:36
harrisonkask your question!00:36
harrisonk;-)00:36
stratosno sound when i connect my speakers on the line out00:37
harrisonkah do you have more than 1 line out?00:37
stratosnope00:37
harrisonkis the volume turned up in ubuntu?00:38
stratosyes, it used to work till this morning00:38
st33medHas there been any updates or upgrades since then?00:38
harrisonkalso is it a sound card or onboard audio?00:38
stratosno00:38
stratosI also tried installing kubuntu (I used to have mint) but the problem is still here, everything works fine in windows, other users with the same laptop have the same problem (Dell N5010)00:40
stratosonboard00:40
harrisonkah its a lappy00:40
stratos^^00:40
harrisonkunder sound preferences are there any audio controlers?00:41
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stratosI have kubuntu ,it recognises both hdmi and analog sound00:42
st33medNice00:43
* st33med didn't know HDMI was supported in Linux00:43
stratosI am not sure if HDMI sound works, I have only used it for visual output00:44
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firewall_03anybody know anything about conky01:19
firewall_03this placed dead?01:27
firewall_03place rather01:27
UndiFineDfirewall_03, no not dead01:33
UndiFineDI know nothing of conky01:33
UndiFineDbut seen great results01:33
firewall_03UndiFineD,  ya, it is a pain imho trying to get it installed and working properly01:34
firewall_03anybody home?04:16
aveilleux!ask | firewall_0304:21
ubot2firewall_03: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)04:21
firewall_03I don't need to ask a question its been pretty quiet for a couple hours04:22
iktIt must be late over in the real world04:30
iktmid-day over here in australia04:30
iktwell 3pm04:30
tenachhello ikt04:35
tenachand firewall_0304:35
iktheya tenach :)04:36
firewall_03hey04:40
tenachHow goes it ikt , firewall_03 ?04:42
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iktNot much atm, just trying to learn lua04:46
tenachlua is pretty nifty.04:46
iktyeah definitely!05:10
iktvery similar to python it seems05:10
DemolitioI'm getting a "cannot parse" error when trying to browse the contents of my phone via bluetooth... anyone have any suggestions?05:16
stlsaintikt: nothing is like python :P05:17
iktDemolitio, what's the whole error?05:18
iktstlsaint, sif, it's got + and == and stuff therefore lua = python05:19
stlsaintikt: booleans do not make up python :P05:19
Demolitioikt: "The Folder contents could not be displayed. Couldn't Parse the incoming data".05:20
Demolitiomy memory card/phone memory checks out fine.. and my tower at my office can read it through bluetooth.05:21
Demolitio(using Windows)05:21
iktstlsaint, i kno, i'm just a small town newb :P05:21
ikthrmm05:22
* stlsaint doesnt use bluetooth...sorry05:22
ikthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/31023105:23
ubot2Launchpad bug 310231 in gvfs (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Error "cannot parse incoming data" when browing or pushing files (affects: 3) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Triaged]05:23
Demolitiostlsaint: no worries. this is frustrating, heh.05:23
Demolitiogod... looks like that bug has been around for a long time.05:24
iktyeah that's what I was thinking05:24
iktThere doesn't seem to be anything specific though05:24
stlsaintnight folks05:24
iktlater stlsaint  :)05:24
Demolitiowell, unlike what other users are saying about it only affecting the music directories... everything is affected. photos, music, videos, docs... argh.05:25
Demolitiomounts the drive.... but just can't do anything with it.05:26
iktyeah doesn't seem to have an easy fix05:28
Demolitiobah..05:29
iktthat's what I thought :<05:31
head_victimDemolitio & ikt I"m not certain but https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-vfs-obexftp/+bug/140478 might help05:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 140478 in gnome-vfs-obexftp " ENABLE_NAUTILUS_WORKAROUND not defined for Nautilus users" [Undecided,New]05:31
head_victimI assume you're using nautilus?05:32
Demolitioyes.05:33
iktif it fixes it I wonder why it hasn't been merged upstream05:33
head_victimikt: no idea, just saw it on a google so thought I'd add it in to see if it helps05:34
Demolitiowell, it can either help or screw up my file browsing ;-)05:35
Demolitioeither way, a test ;-)05:35
Demolitioonly thing I'm a little iffy on... is that this was made in 2007... and the build of Nautilus that ships with 10.10 is much newer.05:36
iktNo option of connecting via a usb cable or something?05:36
DemolitioI have one.. (microUSB)... just was trying not to use it. I keep forgetting the stupid thing.05:37
head_victimI don't know about Demolitio but I hate using usb on my phone. I sync it with evolution over bluetooth, I'd never do it if it needed a cable.05:37
Demolitiothere are obvious speed disadvantages... but Bluetooth is so much more convenient.05:39
iktyeah true05:43
head_victimDemolitio: let us know how the patch goes if you try it.05:46
Demolitiowill do... although, may be for another time. need to do a bit of research on it... see what's changed in versions of Nautilus since then. and it's nearly 1am where I am ;-)05:47
Demolitiohey... I rhymed.05:47
Demolitiowell, night all.05:49
Demolitioand thanks for the help.05:49
Silver_Fox_Hello.10:44
UndiFineDo/10:46
Silver_Fox_Hello UndiFineD .  How are you?10:46
UndiFineDgreat10:46
UndiFineDbit busy with all my projects10:47
UndiFineDbut having fun in general10:47
Silver_Fox_Good.10:48
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Silver_Fox_Hello.15:12
hajourhai Silver_Fox_15:12
Silver_Fox_Hello hajour15:13
MrAnthropeI'm being told a lot that compiz is much more than pretty window effects. What else can it do?16:41
zkriessehello again Robinux17:56
Robinuxhello zkriesse18:07
suprengrboo!18:12
zkriesseAHHH!!!18:13
* zkriesse runs away18:13
* suprengr laughs18:13
MrAnthropehey guys, non-ubuntu-related question... What are the drawbacks to mac filtering as opposed to putting a password on my network?18:20
drubinMrAnthrope: with outpasswords your network will NOT be encrypted18:25
MrAnthropeRight.18:25
MrAnthropeBut unless they spoof a mac address that has access they can't connect and steal my bandwidth, right?18:25
drubinMrAnthrope: http://codebutler.github.com/firesheep/18:25
MrAnthropeI'm just trying to keep the neighbors out.18:25
drubinMrAnthrope: Sure and what about your back18:26
drubinbank*18:26
MrAnthropeThey're not hackers.18:26
drubinsuite your self.18:26
drubinbut you know the security issues...18:27
MrAnthropeHow To: Avoid Getting Fleeced By Firesheep18:27
MrAnthropelol18:27
suprengrhow to avoid firesheep...  go to a public place: turn off your computer, go to a private place: turn off your computer... says batteries as well!18:29
MrAnthropeAnd is it possible/what would be the purpose of using mac filtering and a secured network?18:30
suprengr*saves18:30
MrAnthropeAlso my router is horrible and stupid and old and microsoft. I was wondering if there's a way to throttle my roommate's bandwidth? She torrents constantly and our connection is slow as it is.18:30
MrAnthropeI can barely open web pages 90% of the time because she's torrenting.18:31
MrAnthropeAnd she isn't computer savvy enough to understand how to throttle herself, even though I have shown her how many times.18:31
MrAnthropeI told her to set her download limit to 100 and she set it to 5,000.18:31
Robinuxzkriesse! hehe sorry man i'm just soo busy trying to make my speakers mute whenever i plug in my headphones18:32
Robinuxzkriesse, you there?18:33
bioterror:o18:40
drubinMrAnthrope: look at ipcop but then you need a seperate firewall/server box18:58
drubinMrAnthrope: Is she also on linux?18:59
MrAnthropeWindows Vista laptop.19:00
MrAnthropeShe's computer retarded.19:00
drubinthen a server solution is your best bet ;/19:01
drubinunless your router supports it which I doubt19:02
MrAnthropeit does not.19:02
drubinip cop is very simple to set up.19:02
MrAnthropeI have $1 in my bank account or I would buy a router that supported throttling.19:02
MrAnthropeAnd I only have this one very old crappy outdated computer I'm on.19:02
drubinMrAnthrope: http://www.smoothwall.org/19:02
drubinMrAnthrope: Then there is very little you can do other then asking in a Windows channel for how to trottle on a system level on the windows machien19:03
drubinor you can set up your desktop as a router... but then you need to keep it on all the time19:03
MrAnthropeIt is on all the time. I was told setting up my desktop as the router would be extremely complicated.19:05
MrAnthropeBut could you tell me what that would consist of? Would I still use the physical router to emit wifi for her laptop?19:06
MrAnthropeIf so I can imagine that being very difficult as it is a Microsoft router.19:06
zkriesseRobinux: sorry was eating much desired food19:26
drubinMrAnthrope: not sure about the wifi from the router ;/19:39
drubinbut it isn't that complicated! :)19:39
drubinYou just set your router to ppoe and you dial up using network manager (similar to 56k dial up) only it dials your dsl.19:40
MrAnthropelol19:40
drubinBUT you would need to setup dns/dhcp server but not hard19:40
drubinbut I don't know if the wifi thing will work since I have a seperate wifi AP. (but other then that I have a similar setup)19:40
MrAnthropeWithout wifi the whole thing's moot. My roommate would kill me if I took away her internet. lol.19:41
MrAnthropeI wish I could afford a nice router.19:41
drubinMrAnthrope: I didn't say it wasn't possible I said "I don't know"19:42
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zkriessewb Robinux19:58
zkriessehallo to cap and Daniel010819:58
caphey19:58
zkriesseHorses!19:59
Daniel0108hi20:01
Daniel0108why hallo? xD20:01
ithatcher123hey20:01
ithatcher123im having trouble with my touchpad on my tx220:02
ithatcher123my son turned the touchpad off the other day and when i turned it on the keyboard and trackpad never came back, i had to reset the computer to get the keyboard to work20:03
zkriesseHmm20:03
ithatcher123still cant get the touchpad to work20:04
zkriesseSpecs?20:04
zkriesse!touchpad20:04
ubot2For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad20:04
ithatcher123its a  hp touchsmart tx2 and im running ubuntu 10.10 thats about all i know20:05
capalright, so yesterday I was having trouble installing.  I reset my cmos (as suggested) and it seemed to work fine.  Install completed without a hitch20:08
capbut now when i try to boot up, i just get a black screen.20:09
Robinuxzkriesse, haha and here i am one hour right after you talked20:27
zkriesselolz20:27
Robinuxhehe20:30
zkriesseanyhoo20:31
Robinuxcome to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-beginners-team or #freenode or somethin cuz i don't think its a good idea to chat here20:32
Robinuxlolz you're already there :P20:32
baughbI don't really have a 'beginner' question per se; can I still ask it here?21:13
yax51sure why not?21:14
baughbwoot!21:14
Silver_Fox_baughb,  Ask the question21:14
Silver_Fox_:)21:14
baughbbahaha21:14
baughbhey silver.21:14
baughbanyways, I'm having some trouble getting back into ubuntu21:15
baughbit insists that my init isn't there21:15
baughband leaves me in busybox21:15
baughbI tried fsck the partition in livecd21:15
baughbwhich doesn't help, because it insists that my partition is mounted or opened exclusively elsewhere21:16
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baughbjust so you know, whenever there's this kind of silence, i always imagine a group of wizened old men huddling and occasionally casting me sidelong glances, then retuning to the huddle.21:19
kristian-aalborghi all21:19
MrAnthropeNo I'm just staring at you with a blank look on my face.21:19
kristian-aalborghttp://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:77021:19
MrAnthropeYou lost me at "init"21:19
baughblol21:19
kristian-aalborgjust put 10.4 minimal on this, can't get the resolution right21:19
yax51I'm not that old.....21:20
baughbyou're the one with a fake beard.21:20
yax51http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138654921:21
yax51this might help...21:21
baughbthanks yaz5121:24
yax51yax5121:24
baughblol, sorry21:24
baughbi'm using my emergency netbook21:24
baughband the keyboard is cramped21:24
yax51suck21:24
baughbvery much so.21:24
baughbit looks like what i'm seeing from everyone else21:25
baughbthat fsck won't work from an Ubuntu livecd or disk, just from non-debian ones21:25
baughbmaybe i'll see if  a slax rescue disck can help21:25
yax51what about doing a fresh reinstall?21:27
baughbi super need this one file that's sitting on my desktop21:29
baughbotherwise i'd toss this miserable beast.21:30
yax51lame!21:30
baughbexceedingly.21:30
thewrathhey all!21:30
yax51and it won't boot at all with ubuntu liveCD?21:30
yax51did you check out reply #8 of that thread?21:32
baughbyeah.  first thing i tried.21:33
baughbwell, after weeping uncontrollably.21:33
yax51hmmm21:33
yax51and the fsck command still wont work?21:34
yax51http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1635890&highlight=ubuntu+liveCD+fsck21:36
yax51this also might help21:36
baughbthanks, i'll give that a shot after this21:38
MrAnthropeHow come in my Network Connections Auto eth0 says "Last Used never" even though I'm using it right now?21:38
yax51http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610145&highlight=ubuntu+liveCD+fsck21:39
yax51baughb: check htis one out as well21:39
yax51*this21:39
baughbMrAntrope: are you using wired or wireless?21:40
baughbbecause eth0 is ethernet21:40
baughb(wired)21:40
MrAnthropeWired.21:41
baughbwell then that's a bug.21:42
MrAnthropeI did sudo lshw -h or something and it's active.21:42
baughbooh, unless you're using a modem?21:42
MrAnthropeA modem and a router.21:42
MrAnthropeShouldn't there be something in DSL? I mean I"m using DSL.21:43
baughbnm, meant one of those really old phone cable things21:43
MrAnthropeI hate networking. I'm really confused as to how I'm connecting right now lol.21:43
yax51well as long as it works right?21:44
baughbhaha, at least your computer works, bud.21:44
MrAnthropeyeah :/21:44
Cheri703MrAnthrope: mine says auto_eth0 last used never, and I have used it MANY times, last was friday21:44
Cheri703juat fyi21:44
MrAnthropeOkay.21:44
Cheri703the wired connection that I manually created says last used friday21:44
Cheri703so perhaps just an auto_eth0 error21:45
MrAnthropemanually created...21:45
Cheri703gave it a name and specific ip address settings21:45
Cheri703for certain wired connections21:45
Cheri703vs dhcp21:45
MrAnthropeWhat's MTU mean?21:45
Cheri703not sure21:46
thewrathmaximum trasmission unit21:47
thewrathdont worry about it21:47
MrAnthropeWired connection last used now :)21:47
MrAnthropeIt's a little disconcerting that I stopped using auto eth0 and swapped connections without dropping IRC.21:47
MrAnthropeWindows would have flipped out.21:48
thewrathMrAnthrope, you must not done it pretty quick21:48
thewraththere is a timeout21:48
caphey guys21:49
MrAnthropeSomeone recomended this firewall ... smooth wall. But I found some instructions and it says it will reformat the drive you install it to. That doesn't help me.21:49
capanother question: installing 10.10 with snow leopard dual booted?21:50
MrAnthropeIf I reformat my drive for a firewall there will be nothing to firewall lol.21:50
thewrathMrAnthrope, that is a good industrial firewall21:50
MrAnthropeThis is what I get for asking newb questions in #Ubuntu :( Is there a regular-person firewall that won't reformat my drive?21:51
thewrathUFW21:52
thewraththat comes w/ ubuntu21:52
aveilleuxMrAnthrope: Linux comes with a feature called "iptables" which is a universal firewall system (it's a lot more complex than that, but most people use it as a firewall). UFW (uncomplicated firewall), as thewrath mentioned, is an iptables configuration tool.21:54
thewrathiptables can be quite powerful if you know how to use it21:54
MrAnthropelol wow uncomplicated. "on or off".21:57
MrAnthropeiptables-based Linux firewall ipkungfu?21:58
aveilleuxMrAnthrope: I haven't looked at it22:00
MrAnthropeWould something like netscript-2.4 allow me to throttle my roommate's bandwidth?22:00
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thewrathMrAnthrope,  why do you want to throttle his connection?22:19
kristian-aalborgwhat do I risk by disabling AppArmor?22:19
MrAnthropeHer. Because she is a computer retard. She is constantly torrenting on our already slow connection. I have taught her several times how to throttle herself and she doesn't understand or won't do it I'm not sure.22:20
MrAnthrope90% of the time I can't open web pages. I might have to kill her.22:20
capwith empathy messenger, is there a way to show if the contact is signed in on a phone or not?22:22
thewrathanyone know anything about sabayon ? just curious22:26
aveilleuxcap: Not that I'm aware of. (Empathy is a little... immature.)22:27
capwhat do you prefer?22:27
capor what's the main one people use for chat/email clients22:27
aveilleuxcap: I use Pidgin, now that libpurple has worked out the kinks in MSN.22:27
MrAnthropeIs there any way to set the delay of a depressed key to like 1 minute?22:30
MrAnthropeEven with key delay on the longest and key speed on the slowest it's way too fast.22:32
capcool thankk aveilleux22:34
thewrathwats up23:53
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stlsaintwhat up23:57
thewrathnothing much23:58
thewrathjust curious what do you guys think of the whole wikileaks thing?23:58

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