[00:27] <stratos> hello guys
[00:27] <phillw> hiyas stratos
[00:28] <stratos> I am having a sudden problem with my Dell laptop could I ask here for help ?
[00:30] <phillw> stratos: if there is a dell user on, I'm sure they will jump in, but there is dedicated area on the main support forum for dell computers at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=342 you may find them faster to answer.
[00:31] <stratos> There are already threads there reffering to the problem but none replied to them till now :(
[00:32] <harrisonk> stratos did you see the topic?
[00:32] <zkriesse> !ask
[00:32] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[00:33] <stratos> which topic?
[00:34] <harrisonk>  /topic
[00:34] <harrisonk> that should get you what I want to show you
[00:35] <stratos> ????
[00:35] <harrisonk> !ask
[00:35] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[00:35] <harrisonk> stratos ^^
[00:36] <stratos> I lost you :P what do you want me to do?:P
[00:36] <harrisonk> stratos what is the problem?
[00:36] <harrisonk> ask your question!
[00:36] <harrisonk> ;-)
[00:37] <stratos> no sound when i connect my speakers on the line out
[00:37] <harrisonk> ah do you have more than 1 line out?
[00:37] <stratos> nope
[00:38] <harrisonk> is the volume turned up in ubuntu?
[00:38] <stratos> yes, it used to work till this morning
[00:38] <st33med> Has there been any updates or upgrades since then?
[00:38] <harrisonk> also is it a sound card or onboard audio?
[00:38] <stratos> no
[00:40] <stratos> I also tried installing kubuntu (I used to have mint) but the problem is still here, everything works fine in windows, other users with the same laptop have the same problem (Dell N5010)
[00:40] <stratos> onboard
[00:40] <harrisonk> ah its a lappy
[00:40] <stratos> ^^
[00:41] <harrisonk> under sound preferences are there any audio controlers?
[00:42] <stratos> I have kubuntu ,it recognises both hdmi and analog sound
[00:43] <st33med> Nice
[00:43]  * st33med didn't know HDMI was supported in Linux
[00:44] <stratos> I am not sure if HDMI sound works, I have only used it for visual output
[01:19] <firewall_03> anybody know anything about conky
[01:27] <firewall_03> this placed dead?
[01:27] <firewall_03> place rather
[01:33] <UndiFineD> firewall_03, no not dead
[01:33] <UndiFineD> I know nothing of conky
[01:33] <UndiFineD> but seen great results
[01:34] <firewall_03> UndiFineD,  ya, it is a pain imho trying to get it installed and working properly
[04:16] <firewall_03> anybody home?
[04:21] <aveilleux> !ask | firewall_03
[04:21] <ubot2> firewall_03: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[04:22] <firewall_03> I don't need to ask a question its been pretty quiet for a couple hours
[04:30] <ikt> It must be late over in the real world
[04:30] <ikt> mid-day over here in australia
[04:30] <ikt> well 3pm
[04:35] <tenach> hello ikt
[04:35] <tenach> and firewall_03
[04:36] <ikt> heya tenach :)
[04:40] <firewall_03> hey
[04:42] <tenach> How goes it ikt , firewall_03 ?
[04:46] <ikt> Not much atm, just trying to learn lua
[04:46] <tenach> lua is pretty nifty.
[05:10] <ikt> yeah definitely!
[05:10] <ikt> very similar to python it seems
[05:16] <Demolitio> I'm getting a "cannot parse" error when trying to browse the contents of my phone via bluetooth... anyone have any suggestions?
[05:17] <stlsaint> ikt: nothing is like python :P
[05:18] <ikt> Demolitio, what's the whole error?
[05:19] <ikt> stlsaint, sif, it's got + and == and stuff therefore lua = python
[05:19] <stlsaint> ikt: booleans do not make up python :P
[05:20] <Demolitio> ikt: "The Folder contents could not be displayed. Couldn't Parse the incoming data".
[05:21] <Demolitio> my memory card/phone memory checks out fine.. and my tower at my office can read it through bluetooth.
[05:21] <Demolitio> (using Windows)
[05:21] <ikt> stlsaint, i kno, i'm just a small town newb :P
[05:22] <ikt> hrmm
[05:22]  * stlsaint doesnt use bluetooth...sorry
[05:23] <ikt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/310231
[05:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 310231 in gvfs (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Error "cannot parse incoming data" when browing or pushing files (affects: 3) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Triaged]
[05:23] <Demolitio> stlsaint: no worries. this is frustrating, heh.
[05:24] <Demolitio> god... looks like that bug has been around for a long time.
[05:24] <ikt> yeah that's what I was thinking
[05:24] <ikt> There doesn't seem to be anything specific though
[05:24] <stlsaint> night folks
[05:24] <ikt> later stlsaint  :)
[05:25] <Demolitio> well, unlike what other users are saying about it only affecting the music directories... everything is affected. photos, music, videos, docs... argh.
[05:26] <Demolitio> mounts the drive.... but just can't do anything with it.
[05:28] <ikt> yeah doesn't seem to have an easy fix
[05:29] <Demolitio> bah..
[05:31] <ikt> that's what I thought :<
[05:31] <head_victim> Demolitio & ikt I"m not certain but https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-vfs-obexftp/+bug/140478 might help
[05:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 140478 in gnome-vfs-obexftp " ENABLE_NAUTILUS_WORKAROUND not defined for Nautilus users" [Undecided,New]
[05:32] <head_victim> I assume you're using nautilus?
[05:33] <Demolitio> yes.
[05:33] <ikt> if it fixes it I wonder why it hasn't been merged upstream
[05:34] <head_victim> ikt: no idea, just saw it on a google so thought I'd add it in to see if it helps
[05:35] <Demolitio> well, it can either help or screw up my file browsing ;-)
[05:35] <Demolitio> either way, a test ;-)
[05:36] <Demolitio> only thing I'm a little iffy on... is that this was made in 2007... and the build of Nautilus that ships with 10.10 is much newer.
[05:36] <ikt> No option of connecting via a usb cable or something?
[05:37] <Demolitio> I have one.. (microUSB)... just was trying not to use it. I keep forgetting the stupid thing.
[05:37] <head_victim> I don't know about Demolitio but I hate using usb on my phone. I sync it with evolution over bluetooth, I'd never do it if it needed a cable.
[05:39] <Demolitio> there are obvious speed disadvantages... but Bluetooth is so much more convenient.
[05:43] <ikt> yeah true
[05:46] <head_victim> Demolitio: let us know how the patch goes if you try it.
[05:47] <Demolitio> will do... although, may be for another time. need to do a bit of research on it... see what's changed in versions of Nautilus since then. and it's nearly 1am where I am ;-)
[05:47] <Demolitio> hey... I rhymed.
[05:49] <Demolitio> well, night all.
[05:49] <Demolitio> and thanks for the help.
[10:44] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[10:46] <UndiFineD> o/
[10:46] <Silver_Fox_> Hello UndiFineD .  How are you?
[10:46] <UndiFineD> great
[10:47] <UndiFineD> bit busy with all my projects
[10:47] <UndiFineD> but having fun in general
[10:48] <Silver_Fox_> Good.
[15:12] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[15:12] <hajour> hai Silver_Fox_
[15:13] <Silver_Fox_> Hello hajour
[16:41] <MrAnthrope> I'm being told a lot that compiz is much more than pretty window effects. What else can it do?
[17:56] <zkriesse> hello again Robinux
[18:07] <Robinux> hello zkriesse
[18:12] <suprengr> boo!
[18:13] <zkriesse> AHHH!!!
[18:13]  * zkriesse runs away
[18:13]  * suprengr laughs
[18:20] <MrAnthrope> hey guys, non-ubuntu-related question... What are the drawbacks to mac filtering as opposed to putting a password on my network?
[18:25] <drubin> MrAnthrope: with outpasswords your network will NOT be encrypted
[18:25] <MrAnthrope> Right.
[18:25] <MrAnthrope> But unless they spoof a mac address that has access they can't connect and steal my bandwidth, right?
[18:25] <drubin> MrAnthrope: http://codebutler.github.com/firesheep/
[18:25] <MrAnthrope> I'm just trying to keep the neighbors out.
[18:26] <drubin> MrAnthrope: Sure and what about your back
[18:26] <drubin> bank*
[18:26] <MrAnthrope> They're not hackers.
[18:26] <drubin> suite your self.
[18:27] <drubin> but you know the security issues...
[18:27] <MrAnthrope> How To: Avoid Getting Fleeced By Firesheep
[18:27] <MrAnthrope> lol
[18:29] <suprengr> how to avoid firesheep...  go to a public place: turn off your computer, go to a private place: turn off your computer... says batteries as well!
[18:30] <MrAnthrope> And is it possible/what would be the purpose of using mac filtering and a secured network?
[18:30] <suprengr> *saves
[18:30] <MrAnthrope> Also my router is horrible and stupid and old and microsoft. I was wondering if there's a way to throttle my roommate's bandwidth? She torrents constantly and our connection is slow as it is.
[18:31] <MrAnthrope> I can barely open web pages 90% of the time because she's torrenting.
[18:31] <MrAnthrope> And she isn't computer savvy enough to understand how to throttle herself, even though I have shown her how many times.
[18:31] <MrAnthrope> I told her to set her download limit to 100 and she set it to 5,000.
[18:32] <Robinux> zkriesse! hehe sorry man i'm just soo busy trying to make my speakers mute whenever i plug in my headphones
[18:33] <Robinux> zkriesse, you there?
[18:40] <bioterror> :o
[18:58] <drubin> MrAnthrope: look at ipcop but then you need a seperate firewall/server box
[18:59] <drubin> MrAnthrope: Is she also on linux?
[19:00] <MrAnthrope> Windows Vista laptop.
[19:00] <MrAnthrope> She's computer retarded.
[19:01] <drubin> then a server solution is your best bet ;/
[19:02] <drubin> unless your router supports it which I doubt
[19:02] <MrAnthrope> it does not.
[19:02] <drubin> ip cop is very simple to set up.
[19:02] <MrAnthrope> I have $1 in my bank account or I would buy a router that supported throttling.
[19:02] <MrAnthrope> And I only have this one very old crappy outdated computer I'm on.
[19:02] <drubin> MrAnthrope: http://www.smoothwall.org/
[19:03] <drubin> MrAnthrope: Then there is very little you can do other then asking in a Windows channel for how to trottle on a system level on the windows machien
[19:03] <drubin> or you can set up your desktop as a router... but then you need to keep it on all the time
[19:05] <MrAnthrope> It is on all the time. I was told setting up my desktop as the router would be extremely complicated.
[19:06] <MrAnthrope> But could you tell me what that would consist of? Would I still use the physical router to emit wifi for her laptop?
[19:06] <MrAnthrope> If so I can imagine that being very difficult as it is a Microsoft router.
[19:26] <zkriesse> Robinux: sorry was eating much desired food
[19:39] <drubin> MrAnthrope: not sure about the wifi from the router ;/
[19:39] <drubin> but it isn't that complicated! :)
[19:40] <drubin> You just set your router to ppoe and you dial up using network manager (similar to 56k dial up) only it dials your dsl.
[19:40] <MrAnthrope> lol
[19:40] <drubin> BUT you would need to setup dns/dhcp server but not hard
[19:40] <drubin> but I don't know if the wifi thing will work since I have a seperate wifi AP. (but other then that I have a similar setup)
[19:41] <MrAnthrope> Without wifi the whole thing's moot. My roommate would kill me if I took away her internet. lol.
[19:41] <MrAnthrope> I wish I could afford a nice router.
[19:42] <drubin> MrAnthrope: I didn't say it wasn't possible I said "I don't know"
[19:58] <zkriesse> wb Robinux
[19:58] <zkriesse> hallo to cap and Daniel0108
[19:58] <cap> hey
[19:59] <zkriesse> Horses!
[20:01] <Daniel0108> hi
[20:01] <Daniel0108> why hallo? xD
[20:01] <ithatcher123> hey
[20:02] <ithatcher123> im having trouble with my touchpad on my tx2
[20:03] <ithatcher123> my son turned the touchpad off the other day and when i turned it on the keyboard and trackpad never came back, i had to reset the computer to get the keyboard to work
[20:03] <zkriesse> Hmm
[20:04] <ithatcher123> still cant get the touchpad to work
[20:04] <zkriesse> Specs?
[20:04] <zkriesse> !touchpad
[20:04] <ubot2> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[20:05] <ithatcher123> its a  hp touchsmart tx2 and im running ubuntu 10.10 thats about all i know
[20:08] <cap> alright, so yesterday I was having trouble installing.  I reset my cmos (as suggested) and it seemed to work fine.  Install completed without a hitch
[20:09] <cap> but now when i try to boot up, i just get a black screen.
[20:27] <Robinux> zkriesse, haha and here i am one hour right after you talked
[20:27] <zkriesse> lolz
[20:30] <Robinux> hehe
[20:31] <zkriesse> anyhoo
[20:32] <Robinux> come to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-beginners-team or #freenode or somethin cuz i don't think its a good idea to chat here
[20:32] <Robinux> lolz you're already there :P
[21:13] <baughb> I don't really have a 'beginner' question per se; can I still ask it here?
[21:14] <yax51> sure why not?
[21:14] <baughb> woot!
[21:14] <Silver_Fox_> baughb,  Ask the question
[21:14] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[21:14] <baughb> bahaha
[21:14] <baughb> hey silver.
[21:15] <baughb> anyways, I'm having some trouble getting back into ubuntu
[21:15] <baughb> it insists that my init isn't there
[21:15] <baughb> and leaves me in busybox
[21:15] <baughb> I tried fsck the partition in livecd
[21:16] <baughb> which doesn't help, because it insists that my partition is mounted or opened exclusively elsewhere
[21:19] <baughb> just so you know, whenever there's this kind of silence, i always imagine a group of wizened old men huddling and occasionally casting me sidelong glances, then retuning to the huddle.
[21:19] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[21:19] <MrAnthrope> No I'm just staring at you with a blank look on my face.
[21:19] <kristian-aalborg> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:770
[21:19] <MrAnthrope> You lost me at "init"
[21:19] <baughb> lol
[21:19] <kristian-aalborg> just put 10.4 minimal on this, can't get the resolution right
[21:20] <yax51> I'm not that old.....
[21:20] <baughb> you're the one with a fake beard.
[21:21] <yax51> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386549
[21:21] <yax51> this might help...
[21:24] <baughb> thanks yaz51
[21:24] <yax51> yax51
[21:24] <baughb> lol, sorry
[21:24] <baughb> i'm using my emergency netbook
[21:24] <baughb> and the keyboard is cramped
[21:24] <yax51> suck
[21:24] <baughb> very much so.
[21:25] <baughb> it looks like what i'm seeing from everyone else
[21:25] <baughb> that fsck won't work from an Ubuntu livecd or disk, just from non-debian ones
[21:25] <baughb> maybe i'll see if  a slax rescue disck can help
[21:27] <yax51> what about doing a fresh reinstall?
[21:29] <baughb> i super need this one file that's sitting on my desktop
[21:30] <baughb> otherwise i'd toss this miserable beast.
[21:30] <yax51> lame!
[21:30] <baughb> exceedingly.
[21:30] <thewrath> hey all!
[21:30] <yax51> and it won't boot at all with ubuntu liveCD?
[21:32] <yax51> did you check out reply #8 of that thread?
[21:33] <baughb> yeah.  first thing i tried.
[21:33] <baughb> well, after weeping uncontrollably.
[21:33] <yax51> hmmm
[21:34] <yax51> and the fsck command still wont work?
[21:36] <yax51> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1635890&highlight=ubuntu+liveCD+fsck
[21:36] <yax51> this also might help
[21:38] <baughb> thanks, i'll give that a shot after this
[21:38] <MrAnthrope> How come in my Network Connections Auto eth0 says "Last Used never" even though I'm using it right now?
[21:39] <yax51> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610145&highlight=ubuntu+liveCD+fsck
[21:39] <yax51> baughb: check htis one out as well
[21:39] <yax51> *this
[21:40] <baughb> MrAntrope: are you using wired or wireless?
[21:40] <baughb> because eth0 is ethernet
[21:40] <baughb> (wired)
[21:41] <MrAnthrope> Wired.
[21:42] <baughb> well then that's a bug.
[21:42] <MrAnthrope> I did sudo lshw -h or something and it's active.
[21:42] <baughb> ooh, unless you're using a modem?
[21:42] <MrAnthrope> A modem and a router.
[21:43] <MrAnthrope> Shouldn't there be something in DSL? I mean I"m using DSL.
[21:43] <baughb> nm, meant one of those really old phone cable things
[21:43] <MrAnthrope> I hate networking. I'm really confused as to how I'm connecting right now lol.
[21:44] <yax51> well as long as it works right?
[21:44] <baughb> haha, at least your computer works, bud.
[21:44] <MrAnthrope> yeah :/
[21:44] <Cheri703> MrAnthrope: mine says auto_eth0 last used never, and I have used it MANY times, last was friday
[21:44] <Cheri703> juat fyi
[21:44] <MrAnthrope> Okay.
[21:44] <Cheri703> the wired connection that I manually created says last used friday
[21:45] <Cheri703> so perhaps just an auto_eth0 error
[21:45] <MrAnthrope> manually created...
[21:45] <Cheri703> gave it a name and specific ip address settings
[21:45] <Cheri703> for certain wired connections
[21:45] <Cheri703> vs dhcp
[21:45] <MrAnthrope> What's MTU mean?
[21:46] <Cheri703> not sure
[21:47] <thewrath> maximum trasmission unit
[21:47] <thewrath> dont worry about it
[21:47] <MrAnthrope> Wired connection last used now :)
[21:47] <MrAnthrope> It's a little disconcerting that I stopped using auto eth0 and swapped connections without dropping IRC.
[21:48] <MrAnthrope> Windows would have flipped out.
[21:48] <thewrath> MrAnthrope, you must not done it pretty quick
[21:48] <thewrath> there is a timeout
[21:49] <cap> hey guys
[21:49] <MrAnthrope> Someone recomended this firewall ... smooth wall. But I found some instructions and it says it will reformat the drive you install it to. That doesn't help me.
[21:50] <cap> another question: installing 10.10 with snow leopard dual booted?
[21:50] <MrAnthrope> If I reformat my drive for a firewall there will be nothing to firewall lol.
[21:50] <thewrath> MrAnthrope, that is a good industrial firewall
[21:51] <MrAnthrope> This is what I get for asking newb questions in #Ubuntu :( Is there a regular-person firewall that won't reformat my drive?
[21:52] <thewrath> UFW
[21:52] <thewrath> that comes w/ ubuntu
[21:54] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Linux comes with a feature called "iptables" which is a universal firewall system (it's a lot more complex than that, but most people use it as a firewall). UFW (uncomplicated firewall), as thewrath mentioned, is an iptables configuration tool.
[21:54] <thewrath> iptables can be quite powerful if you know how to use it
[21:57] <MrAnthrope> lol wow uncomplicated. "on or off".
[21:58] <MrAnthrope> iptables-based Linux firewall ipkungfu?
[22:00] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: I haven't looked at it
[22:00] <MrAnthrope> Would something like netscript-2.4 allow me to throttle my roommate's bandwidth?
[22:19] <thewrath> MrAnthrope,  why do you want to throttle his connection?
[22:19] <kristian-aalborg> what do I risk by disabling AppArmor?
[22:20] <MrAnthrope> Her. Because she is a computer retard. She is constantly torrenting on our already slow connection. I have taught her several times how to throttle herself and she doesn't understand or won't do it I'm not sure.
[22:20] <MrAnthrope> 90% of the time I can't open web pages. I might have to kill her.
[22:22] <cap> with empathy messenger, is there a way to show if the contact is signed in on a phone or not?
[22:26] <thewrath> anyone know anything about sabayon ? just curious
[22:27] <aveilleux> cap: Not that I'm aware of. (Empathy is a little... immature.)
[22:27] <cap> what do you prefer?
[22:27] <cap> or what's the main one people use for chat/email clients
[22:27] <aveilleux> cap: I use Pidgin, now that libpurple has worked out the kinks in MSN.
[22:30] <MrAnthrope> Is there any way to set the delay of a depressed key to like 1 minute?
[22:32] <MrAnthrope> Even with key delay on the longest and key speed on the slowest it's way too fast.
[22:34] <cap> cool thankk aveilleux
[23:53] <thewrath> wats up
[23:57] <stlsaint> what up
[23:58] <thewrath> nothing much
[23:58] <thewrath> just curious what do you guys think of the whole wikileaks thing?