[01:09] <duanedesign> czajkowski: it is on my todo for Monday morning.
[06:14] <paultag> nigelb: I'm using node.js to play around :)
[06:15] <paultag> It's pretty awesome
[06:15] <paultag> I just wrote a templating engine for it, with data stored in JSON. I should really update it to actually, you know, do something
[08:11] <czajkowski> duanedesign: great
[08:11] <czajkowski> paultag: go to sleep
[10:12] <nigelb> paultag: neat
[10:36] <nigelb> paultag: gah, now I'm installing node.js too.
[15:56] <paultag> czajkowski: I did :)
[16:06] <paultag> nigelb: I have a sever where it can be running on port 80
[16:07] <paultag> nigelb: so I'm going to write something cool with nodejs, I think. I have it templating, so I need it to collaborate with something. Perhaps if I can work out the callbacks, I can make a pair-programming editor
[16:07] <paultag> have it auth'd, and then work off git or something. It'll clone it, filebrowse on the left, edit on the right, and let you commit and stuff
[16:08] <paultag> but only with local access :)
[16:10] <paultag> and a socket api, pretty please
[17:18] <nigelb> paultag: something like web-based gobby?
[17:18] <paultag> nigelb: like google docs, but with like vi syntax or something
[17:18] <nigelb> that's be sooooo cool ;)
[17:19] <nigelb> paultag: node.js overall seems to be very cool
[17:19] <paultag> nigelb: yeah, it's a tad wonky, but I like the webserver having a state
[17:19] <nigelb> heh
[17:19] <paultag> nigelb: so you can preload data, then start serving statc stuff, and re-work it on different events
[17:19] <paultag> nigelb: it's going to run a whole lot faster then php, imho
[17:19] <paultag> I've not tested it, but I have a feeling
[17:19] <nigelb> its probably faster than most languages
[17:20] <nigelb> Because particularly of its async loading
[17:20] <paultag> I've got to try client / server stuff. I think you have to vend out javascript in javascript
[17:20] <paultag> something about that seems dirty, I need to figure out how to do it right
[17:21] <nigelb> What I like best about node.js is that now you only need 1 language for client and server side
[17:21] <nigelb> which is like *awesome*
[17:21] <paultag> nigelb: i'm not convinced yet
[17:22] <paultag> nigelb: it's really awkward to do a lot of stuff
[17:22] <nigelb> paultag: well, true.  Callbacks and callbacks and more callbacks
[17:22] <paultag> nigelb: yeah, but if you can model it right, callbacks rock hard.
[17:22] <paultag> nigelb: what I don't like is that you have to smoosh it all into one file
[17:22] <paultag> nigelb: and that the js tree makes it hard to server actual things, like files
[17:23] <nigelb> paultag: You'e using 2.5?
[17:23] <paultag> nigelb: so you can't put a css file in with the js files, and serve it on a request to that file, y'know
[17:23] <paultag> nigelb: I'm using git
[17:23] <nigelb> There probably really active development
[17:23] <paultag> nigelb: yeah, I'm using the git head
[17:23] <paultag> nigelb: I have it installed to opt, and similinked in
[17:23] <nigelb> paultag: http://transloadit.com/
[17:23] <paultag>  f
[17:24] <paultag> whops!
[17:24] <paultag> gnome-do's not working
[17:24] <nigelb> I think I showed you before, its built with node.js and ffmeg and other open source stuff
[17:24] <paultag> nigelb: oh yes, you did
[17:25] <nigelb> paultag: Well, if they can do something so awesome . . .
[17:26] <nigelb> sky's the limit I'd reckon
[17:27] <paultag> nigelb: I'm worried about a few things. I think this is *great* as a secondary server, for tracking state ( you don't need a DB to hold "global" states ), but not great for doing the usual things
[17:27] <paultag> nigelb: I'm tempted to use the nodejs server as a json server, vend off php, and ajax state from node into the app
[17:27] <nigelb> paultag: that would totally rock
[17:28] <paultag> nigelb: that or re-write the webserver
[17:28] <nigelb> paultag: That makes sense from so many standpoints
[17:28] <paultag> nigelb: thanks :)
[17:28] <paultag> nigelb: I try and make sense :)
[17:28] <nigelb> You can always fork and people might be running paultag.node.js :p
[17:28] <paultag> Nah, I'd be nice and send in patches
[17:28] <paultag> I don't have time to maintain something like that
[17:28] <nigelb> heh
[17:29] <paultag> all I need to do is figure out to how barf json in javascript
[17:29] <paultag> it should be easy
[17:30] <nigelb> dude, json is javascript object notation remember?
[17:30] <paultag> nigelb: that just means that you can take json and it's valid javascript
[17:31] <nigelb> oh, well, use jquery then :p
[17:31] <paultag> nigelb: that does not mean javascript can make json, that'd be like saying that c can produce c code because it's written in c
[17:31] <paultag> nigelb: with nodejs ?
[17:31] <nigelb> or at least look at jquery source to see how they barf json
[17:31] <paultag> true that
[17:31] <paultag> ah, json.org has a json.js script
[17:32] <paultag> damnit, I can't inline that
[17:32] <paultag> nodejs, you're cramping my style. Please be built in
[17:32] <nigelb> Well, if you see jquery compressed, you'll know that anything is in-line-able
[17:34] <paultag> humm
[17:34] <paultag> nodejs has something called "JSON.stringify("
[17:34] <paultag> I wonder if that'll do it
[17:34] <nigelb> aha
[17:34] <nigelb> g31
[17:43] <paultag> nigelb: http://pastebin.com/EdrrVCrh
[17:43] <paultag> nigelb: that's what I just got off my netbook
[17:44] <paultag> nigelb: and I just got that json stuff to work. Now time to use it :)
[17:48] <nigelb> paultag: I can't believe its just that much!
[17:49] <paultag> nigelb: I need to figure out how to make it smarter
[17:49] <paultag> that and debian needs a patch
[17:50] <paultag> nodejs is really out of date
[17:50] <paultag> to the point where that won't run
[17:50] <nigelb> ew
[17:50] <paultag> ( and I knew my syntax was right )
[17:50] <paultag> so I tried git and it worked flawlessly
[17:50] <nigelb> heh
[17:50] <paultag> the only time i've blamed the compiler and won
[17:50] <nigelb> I just compiled from source - the stable version
[17:51] <nigelb> I wish there ws something like virtualenv
[17:51] <paultag> nigelb: I don't like running make install. I've just hacked it in
[17:51] <nigelb> ah
[17:51] <paultag> nigelb: I just used bits of my old package manager to do it
[19:30] <jcastro> wow
[19:30] <jcastro> with autohide on unity is really starting to be awesome
[19:33] <nisshh> jcastro, it needs an intellihide :)
[20:06] <popey> Intellihide(¢∞§¶•ªºœ∑åß∂®ƒ†©\˙µΩ≈ç√∫˙∆¨^˚¬π…“æ‘«  damnit! where's the TM symbol!
[20:10] <vish> ™
[22:16] <jcastro> nisshh: yeah, some day
[22:16] <jcastro> right now this will do the trick though
[22:17] <jcastro> ironically, for all the drama, with autohid on it looks just like 10.10 except minus the bottom panel
[22:32] <nisshh> jcastro, yeah, hehe