| cap_00 | ivoks you're awesome | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| cap_00 | i'm back up | 00:03 |
| cap_00 | where can i take a course on ubuntu or some trainning to know all that? | 00:04 |
| ivoks | training.canonical.com | 00:05 |
| ivoks | or #ubuntu-training | 00:05 |
| ivoks | that would be a good first step | 00:06 |
| cap_00 | awesome, i'll take one soon | 00:06 |
| ivoks | make that | 00:06 |
| ivoks | http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training | 00:06 |
| cap_00 | i'm sure work wouldn't be to happy if this had of happened on monday morning instead of saturday | 00:07 |
| ivoks | well, you were the all variables in equation.. so :) | 00:08 |
| cap_00 | yuuuup | 00:08 |
| cap_00 | one quick question for you before you go? | 00:08 |
| cap_00 | do i need to turn on a gui in order to log into kvm for the first time? i tried putting the openssh-server in the --addpkg but it never seemed to work for me unless i messed up the bridged network config | 00:10 |
| cap_00 | maybe not so quick lol | 00:13 |
| cap_00 | thanks a million ivoks, i owe you a beer or 10 | 00:18 |
| ivoks | nope | 00:21 |
| ivoks | ah, he left | 00:22 |
| ivoks | didn't have a change to mention vnc :) | 00:22 |
| ivoks | chance | 00:22 |
| cokegen | anyone knows how to configure compiz ? | 00:29 |
| cokegen | stupid question to ask here, I know | 00:30 |
| garymc | im upgrading ubuntu to latest version it now asking if I want to keep localy modified files or install package maintainers version? What should I do? | 00:46 |
| jgould | depends on what you've done to the local fiels | 00:47 |
| garymc | ok ill keep the current versions | 00:47 |
| jgould | I did that and kept my locally modified files so I didn't lose my samba config | 00:47 |
| garymc | god it goes on this upgrade | 00:48 |
| garymc | hope the whole thing doesnt come crashing down | 00:48 |
| jgould | I did that and lost a very customized samba config | 00:48 |
| jgould | Now if only I could get my NFS working, I'd be happy | 00:48 |
| garymc | system is rebooting. Fingers crossed | 00:59 |
| garymc | touching wood | 00:59 |
| garymc | It works.... well website does an stuff also fixed my previous date issue today | 01:13 |
| garymc | good night | 01:13 |
| garymc | Thanks ivoks | 01:13 |
| aarcane | anyone have a working extables-addons-source ? mien gives error messages every time I run m-a a-i xtables-addons-source :( | 02:26 |
| lucascastro | does someone know something about monitor authentications ? | 03:16 |
| databits | what is the default directory for the imap.conf, and smtpd.conf ? | 03:47 |
| jhansonxi | I have a pair of Apache2 sites (www, www-other). How do I restrict the BackupPC alias (in conf.d) so that /backuppc only exists in www? | 04:00 |
| === ktk_ is now known as KurtKraut | ||
| Starhero | Hello | 05:46 |
| Starhero | Anyone know of a twitter CLI app that actually works? Trying to through it into a script for an auto update... | 05:46 |
| Starhero | The ones i have tried give me a 401 unauth error | 05:46 |
| Starhero | the pass is correct with the username | 05:46 |
| Cromulent | Starhero: are you sure? 99% of times I have thought the app was broken it turned out I had done something wrong | 05:47 |
| Cromulent | recheck the password / username | 05:48 |
| Starhero | I have quite a few times | 05:48 |
| Starhero | What do you use? I'll do more testing on what app you speak of... | 05:48 |
| Starhero | even gotweet isnt working | 05:49 |
| Cromulent | Starhero: the app I referred too was a general app not a specifc - as in when one has a problem with a given app it is generally down to user error | 05:50 |
| Cromulent | sorry I should have been clearer | 05:50 |
| Starhero | hmm I trhink maybe it is because something called Oauth isn't installed....I have see referances to it ...but i think that is an embeded class or something i am not sure | 05:52 |
| CppIsWeird | I have a raid 5 setup using mdadm. My server has been on for a few days with little activity. All of the sudden I noticed the sound of my hard drives working a lot more then they should. I checked the state of the raid 5 and it says "clean, recovering" and has a rebuild status of 31%. this raid has been built and active for many months, what does this behavior mean? | 07:06 |
| CppIsWeird | listed under "Active Devices : 4, Working Devices : 4, and Failed Devices : 0" | 07:07 |
| Doble | whats the uptime of your server cppisweird? | 07:09 |
| Doble | is it possible it has crashed or had a power failure ? | 07:09 |
| CppIsWeird | no, it does not boot back up after a power failure | 07:28 |
| CppIsWeird | uptime is 4 days | 07:29 |
| aarcane | CppIsWeird, check your smart status, there should be something in there. | 08:12 |
| a1fa | anyone familiar with taskset? | 08:21 |
| a1fa | i split two processes across two different cores, but only one is crunching while other one is idle? | 08:22 |
| joschi | anyone familiar with octopussy (http://www.8pussy.org/)? | 09:16 |
| ckvcom | register | 09:28 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #685426 in tftp-hpa (main) "package tftpd-hpa 5.0-11ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso script post-removal instalado devolvió el código de salida de error 127" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685426 | 09:41 |
| Sparsh | Hello, I have a ubuntu 10.04 64 bit server which is used to server as much as 40Million web requests per day | 09:56 |
| Sparsh | the request ranges from all over the world and ofcourse involved millions of different IP addresses | 09:57 |
| Sparsh | I am not sure how to best configure the server as far as IP conncetions setting is involved | 09:57 |
| ivoks | sunday is perfect timing for that question :) | 09:58 |
| ivoks | are there any problems with current setup? | 09:59 |
| ivoks | Sparsh: ^ | 09:59 |
| Sparsh | there are some problems btu I am not sure if they are because of this issue | 10:00 |
| Sparsh | last night we had 504s | 10:00 |
| Sparsh | and a lot of connections were refused | 10:00 |
| Sparsh | so I guess we reached the saturation and our server wasnt accepting more connections from IPs | 10:01 |
| Sparsh | but I dont know where to start investigation and fix | 10:01 |
| ivoks | web server is? | 10:01 |
| Sparsh | yea. it got Varnish Cache on it | 10:02 |
| Sparsh | only varnish and pound cache on it.. with backend connected with 5 apache servers on a round robin basis | 10:02 |
| ivoks | so... http error messages are above ip | 10:02 |
| ivoks | if you get http error messages, then your ip communication is ok | 10:03 |
| Sparsh | possible SYN flooding on port 80. Sending cookies | 10:03 |
| Sparsh | this is one of the error we got | 10:03 |
| ivoks | you'll get those all the time | 10:03 |
| Sparsh | and also our monitoring scripts reported 504s (Gateway Timeout) | 10:03 |
| Sparsh | what does this error mean | 10:03 |
| ivoks | nothing to worry about unless you get it bunch of times and no one can access the web | 10:03 |
| ivoks | let's start all over again | 10:04 |
| Sparsh | hmm.. but how to check the IP tables / IP connections related configuration | 10:04 |
| Sparsh | sure | 10:04 |
| ivoks | we are talking about varnish or apache machine? | 10:04 |
| Sparsh | varnish machine to start with | 10:04 |
| ivoks | so, that machine reports 504 when accessing apache? | 10:05 |
| Sparsh | Yes, | 10:06 |
| ivoks | then you have a problem | 10:06 |
| Sparsh | http://monitor.wingify.com/munin/visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/varnish.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com.html#Varnish | 10:06 |
| Sparsh | this is a munin graph | 10:06 |
| Sparsh | there were a lot f backend conn failures | 10:06 |
| ivoks | yes | 10:08 |
| ivoks | and you have a very bad cache hit/miss ratio | 10:08 |
| Sparsh | all we know is something went very wrong yesterday.. but what exactly is something I have jst started investigation | 10:08 |
| Sparsh | its usually around 70 | 10:09 |
| Sparsh | because we ourselves force pass to a few web requests | 10:09 |
| Sparsh | our config demands hit for only one specific type of request | 10:09 |
| ivoks | well, have you seen your 'connection through firewall'? | 10:09 |
| Sparsh | how exactly to see that | 10:09 |
| ivoks | http://monitor.wingify.com/munin/visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/varnish.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com-fw_conntrack.html | 10:10 |
| Sparsh | ohh sorry.. | 10:10 |
| Sparsh | the big chunk of data missing is because we switched the website to our backup server cluster | 10:10 |
| ivoks | i have a website with half the traffic you get | 10:11 |
| Sparsh | when we realized that something is going bad with it | 10:11 |
| ivoks | but with only 2 apaches | 10:11 |
| Sparsh | do you also use some sort of caching system ? | 10:11 |
| Sparsh | for us response times is the most critical thing. | 10:11 |
| ivoks | and with bigger cache hit/miss ratio | 10:11 |
| ivoks | i use varnish too | 10:12 |
| Sparsh | okay, we have recently moved to varnish and still trying to learn | 10:12 |
| Sparsh | 2 days back we moved completely from nginx based load balancing to varnish front | 10:12 |
| ivoks | it takes time | 10:12 |
| ivoks | was there a reason for that? | 10:12 |
| ivoks | was nginx failing? :) | 10:13 |
| Sparsh | well nginx was sending request to apache servers | 10:13 |
| Sparsh | then we installed varnihs | 10:13 |
| Sparsh | and started routing traffic via varnish | 10:13 |
| Sparsh | so it was nginx->varnish->apache which is a waste.. so we removed nginx and let varnish face the traffic | 10:14 |
| ivoks | ok | 10:14 |
| Sparsh | and suddenly we realized http://monitor.wingify.com/munin/visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/varnish.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com-fw_forwarded_local.html has shot up | 10:14 |
| Sparsh | and still increasing | 10:14 |
| Sparsh | and I wonder we arent doing something correctly.. maybe ip connections are active for a lot longer then required | 10:15 |
| ivoks | there's no single anwser for this setups | 10:15 |
| ivoks | every setup is customized to your needs | 10:15 |
| Sparsh | http://paste.org/pastebin/view/25768 | 10:16 |
| ivoks | this isn't unusal graph | 10:16 |
| Sparsh | this is the varnish settings we have at the moment | 10:16 |
| ivoks | on my less frequent web, it's ~18k | 10:16 |
| Sparsh | hmm | 10:17 |
| ivoks | so, when you used nginx | 10:18 |
| ivoks | i guess your servers had public ips? | 10:18 |
| ivoks | nginx wasn't doing nating, right? | 10:19 |
| Sparsh | yes | 10:19 |
| Sparsh | it was again a very basic kinda default setup and there wasnt any NATing | 10:19 |
| ivoks | and now there is NATing? | 10:20 |
| ivoks | varnish has public ip, while apaches have private ips | 10:20 |
| ivoks | that explains ipconntrack | 10:21 |
| ivoks | if you don't do NAT, then there aren't connections to track | 10:21 |
| Sparsh | hmm.. sorry but I am not exactly aware of this | 10:21 |
| Sparsh | is ipconntrack bad ? | 10:21 |
| ivoks | no | 10:21 |
| Sparsh | what exactly is it | 10:21 |
| ivoks | that's a normal thing | 10:21 |
| ivoks | when your machines does NAT, it tracks the connections | 10:22 |
| Sparsh | if there is any efficiency issues here | 10:22 |
| ivoks | looking at your graph, you don't have that many connections | 10:23 |
| ivoks | you have 10x less than i do | 10:23 |
| Sparsh | well during peak its around 400 req/sec | 10:23 |
| ivoks | i'm talking about ipconntrack | 10:24 |
| Sparsh | okay | 10:24 |
| ivoks | your peek is 2k | 10:24 |
| ivoks | which is... low | 10:24 |
| Sparsh | okay. | 10:24 |
| Sparsh | anything else which is unusual in the graphs which you can spot | 10:24 |
| Sparsh | or any other variable / config on the server which might be important to the type of setup we have | 10:25 |
| ivoks | no, everythin looks fine | 10:26 |
| ivoks | you should look at your apache servers | 10:26 |
| ivoks | one thing i'm missing on this graphs | 10:26 |
| ivoks | if varnish server is doing NAT, why do you have only eth0 | 10:27 |
| Sparsh | what does it mean | 10:27 |
| ivoks | you know what NAT is? | 10:27 |
| Sparsh | I have some idea YES, but ofcourse wont say I know it all | 10:28 |
| ivoks | so, if you have private network on eth0 | 10:28 |
| ivoks | your kernel does NAT to eth1 | 10:28 |
| ivoks | or eth1 to eth0 | 10:28 |
| ivoks | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation | 10:28 |
| ivoks | or you don't do NAT? | 10:29 |
| Sparsh | my /etc/network/interfaces | 10:29 |
| ivoks | does your varnish server have a public ip? | 10:29 |
| Sparsh | auto lo | 10:29 |
| Sparsh | iface lo inet loopback | 10:29 |
| Sparsh | auto eth0 eth0:1 | 10:29 |
| Sparsh | iface eth0 inet dhcp | 10:29 |
| Sparsh | iface eth0:1 inet static | 10:29 |
| Sparsh | address 192.168.162.141 | 10:29 |
| Sparsh | netmask 255.255.128.0 | 10:29 |
| ivoks | don't paste here | 10:30 |
| ivoks | and what address does it get from dhcp? public or private? | 10:30 |
| Sparsh | public | 10:30 |
| Sparsh | But I would want to confirm | 10:31 |
| Sparsh | how can I do that | 10:31 |
| Sparsh | any particular commands I should run on the server | 10:31 |
| ivoks | ip a | 10:31 |
| ivoks | if it's a public, then you have an ok design for small office, but a bad one for serious web sites | 10:32 |
| Sparsh | http://paste.org/pastebin/view/25770 | 10:32 |
| Sparsh | consider this as a serious website | 10:33 |
| ivoks | then get your self additional ethernet card | 10:33 |
| Sparsh | and ? | 10:33 |
| ivoks | connect your private machines to isolated, private network | 10:33 |
| ivoks | don't have them all on the same swith (public and private) | 10:34 |
| Sparsh | okay | 10:34 |
| Sparsh | right now we have a hosting on Linode | 10:34 |
| ivoks | that's a basic thing to do | 10:34 |
| Sparsh | okay | 10:34 |
| ivoks | this all is on linode? | 10:34 |
| Sparsh | yes | 10:34 |
| Sparsh | around 12 servers on linode | 10:34 |
| Sparsh | we are thinking of moving dedicated | 10:34 |
| ivoks | then i must say i'm surprised it works so well :) | 10:34 |
| ivoks | 40 milion visitors per month... | 10:35 |
| ivoks | that's 10x my country has citizens :D | 10:35 |
| Sparsh | haha, where are you from | 10:35 |
| ivoks | croatia | 10:35 |
| ivoks | anyway... separate private from public | 10:36 |
| Sparsh | well we have struggled to get this setup working but we are struggling even more now | 10:36 |
| Sparsh | okay | 10:36 |
| ivoks | linode hosts virtual machines | 10:36 |
| Sparsh | yes | 10:36 |
| ivoks | so you have additional overhead there | 10:36 |
| Sparsh | hmm.. | 10:36 |
| ivoks | i use linode too, but not for stuff like this | 10:36 |
| ivoks | for stuff like this we use, almost, dedicated DC :) | 10:36 |
| Sparsh | hmm | 10:37 |
| ivoks | linode is awesome, but you have to be aware of its limitations | 10:37 |
| ivoks | i doubt it can handle that many requests | 10:38 |
| Sparsh | yea i guess now we have started realizing the limitations | 10:38 |
| Sparsh | If you odnt mind, can I add you on skype. YOu have been very very helpful to me. I am working with wingify which develops visualwebsiteoptimizer.com and this all setup is for this website | 10:39 |
| Sparsh | we have some script which gets added to clients website which this setup sends. | 10:39 |
| ivoks | well, we can stay on IRC and I can help you when i have time | 10:40 |
| ivoks | or... we can go skype, but that will become serious, not pro bono :) | 10:40 |
| Sparsh | sure whatever you prefer | 10:40 |
| ivoks | *not pro bono* | 10:40 |
| ivoks | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono | 10:41 |
| ivoks | :) | 10:41 |
| Sparsh | aah :) | 10:41 |
| garymc | HI I upgraded ubuntu to latest version last night but now my LTSP doesnt work no more :( | 10:49 |
| ivoks | :) | 10:50 |
| garymc | hi ivoks you still here | 10:50 |
| garymc | well its broken my system | 10:50 |
| garymc | any idea how I can get this fixed? | 10:51 |
| ivoks | yes, for a minute... i'll be out for next 10 | 10:51 |
| garymc | Website works etc which is a plus, but now nobody in the office can log into the LTSP side of the server | 10:51 |
| garymc | :( | 10:51 |
| ivoks | do you know what's the problem? | 10:51 |
| ivoks | on a tech level, not on a 'user' level | 10:52 |
| garymc | no | 10:52 |
| garymc | all i know is when we turn a Computer on that runs off the LTSP it now says BOOT DISK FAILURE | 10:53 |
| garymc | which means it isnt booting from the LTSP server no more | 10:53 |
| garymc | normaly get that when the cable is unplugged | 10:53 |
| ivoks | ok | 10:53 |
| ivoks | that's a good start | 10:53 |
| ivoks | i guess ltsp boots from nfs? | 10:53 |
| garymc | its like a year since I touched it.... n | 10:53 |
| garymc | yes i think so, that rings a bell | 10:54 |
| ivoks | check if nfs is running on your server | 10:54 |
| garymc | how | 10:55 |
| ivoks | ps ax | grep nfs | 10:55 |
| garymc | 3910 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep nfs | 10:55 |
| ivoks | so, it's not | 10:55 |
| garymc | EEeeeek | 10:55 |
| ivoks | going out for a smoke | 10:55 |
| ivoks | we'll solve this when i get back | 10:55 |
| garymc | ok thanks | 10:56 |
| garymc | your a saint | 10:56 |
| garymc | :S | 10:56 |
| ivoks | i don't believe in ferrys :) | 11:08 |
| garymc | i beleive in fairys | 11:08 |
| garymc | :) | 11:08 |
| ivoks | or that :) | 11:08 |
| garymc | nice smoke? | 11:08 |
| ivoks | fairies | 11:08 |
| Doble | hi folks, im trying to set up a tf2 server, and when doing so ive started and stopped the program a few times, but it appears it hasn't stopped properly, as according to ps it is still running, however when i try to kill it via the PID it doesnt seem to work, can someone help ? | 11:08 |
| ivoks | garymc: ok, let me install nfs, to see how it starts and stops | 11:09 |
| ivoks | i don't have lucid with nfs yet :/ | 11:10 |
| garymc | ok | 11:10 |
| ivoks | garymc: ok does /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart helps? | 11:10 |
| garymc | let me try | 11:11 |
| garymc | no such file or directory | 11:11 |
| ivoks | /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart | 11:11 |
| garymc | no such file or directory | 11:12 |
| ivoks | is there a file /etc/exports | 11:12 |
| garymc | nope | 11:13 |
| garymc | could it be anything to do with ethup etc? | 11:14 |
| ivoks | hm... ltsp doesn't use nfs | 11:14 |
| garymc | ok.... | 11:14 |
| ivoks | it's using nbd | 11:14 |
| garymc | ok.. | 11:15 |
| ivoks | so, how does the problem look like on your think client? | 11:17 |
| ivoks | you power it on | 11:17 |
| ivoks | it starts booting from network | 11:17 |
| ivoks | get's the ip and then starts booting? | 11:17 |
| garymc | normaly yes | 11:17 |
| garymc | but now says BOOT DISK FAILURE | 11:18 |
| ivoks | before even getting to boot from network? | 11:18 |
| garymc | yes | 11:18 |
| ivoks | or it tries and fails | 11:18 |
| garymc | im not at the office Im being told this over the phone | 11:18 |
| garymc | :S | 11:18 |
| ivoks | ok | 11:19 |
| ivoks | let's assume tftpd or dhcp isn't working right | 11:19 |
| garymc | ok | 11:19 |
| ivoks | ps ax | grep tftp | 11:19 |
| ivoks | stgraber: around? | 11:19 |
| garymc | ax command not found | 11:19 |
| ivoks | garymc: i said 'ps ax' | 11:20 |
| garymc | dont think he/she is as I posted this in the LTSP channel no response | 11:20 |
| garymc | 1359 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --listen --user tftp --address 0.0.0.0:69 /srv/tftp 3941 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep tftp | 11:21 |
| ivoks | ok, so that works | 11:22 |
| garymc | ok | 11:22 |
| ivoks | ps ax | grep dhcp | 11:22 |
| garymc | should I pastebin this one | 11:23 |
| garymc | i best had | 11:23 |
| garymc | http://pastebin.ca/2011070 | 11:23 |
| ivoks | so, that's running too | 11:23 |
| garymc | ok | 11:23 |
| ivoks | then you can't get BOOT FAILURE | 11:24 |
| garymc | im thinking maybe I should have updated through the GNOME and not the Terminal | 11:24 |
| garymc | *upgraded | 11:24 |
| ivoks | you would get that message on a PC if your boot devices do not exist | 11:25 |
| ivoks | and clearly, pxe boot does | 11:25 |
| ivoks | if there's an error in pxe boot, it would look totally different | 11:25 |
| garymc | could the netwrok switch be faulty in the office? | 11:25 |
| ivoks | check your /var/log/syslog | 11:25 |
| ivoks | look for DHCP entries | 11:25 |
| ivoks | see if there are errors or odd behavior | 11:25 |
| garymc | look with me :S http://pastebin.ca/2011075 | 11:27 |
| ivoks | so, it works | 11:28 |
| ivoks | you might want to forward your email for root to the user | 11:29 |
| garymc | yeah I remeber seeing dovecot failures last night when it was installing | 11:29 |
| ivoks | system is trying to send you an email | 11:30 |
| ivoks | maybe it's related to the problem | 11:30 |
| garymc | how do I fix that then? | 11:30 |
| ivoks | in /etc/aliases | 11:30 |
| ivoks | add root: your_username | 11:30 |
| ivoks | and then run newaliases | 11:31 |
| garymc | ok so at command prompt type: | 11:31 |
| garymc | root : garymc | 11:31 |
| garymc | newaliases | 11:32 |
| garymc | none of them commands are working | 11:33 |
| ivoks | i said: | 11:34 |
| ivoks | root: garymc | 11:34 |
| ivoks | it's not a command | 11:34 |
| ivoks | it's something you type in | 11:34 |
| ivoks | in /etc/aliases.db | 11:34 |
| ivoks | in /etc/aliases | 11:34 |
| garymc | and save | 11:34 |
| garymc | ok ive added that lin in aliases "root:garymc | 11:35 |
| ivoks | yes | 11:35 |
| ivoks | newaliases | 11:35 |
| ivoks | then run newaliases | 11:35 |
| garymc | ok done | 11:36 |
| garymc | so what does that do? | 11:37 |
| ivoks | it will forward email for root to you | 11:37 |
| ivoks | do all the computers have that error BOOT FAILURE | 11:37 |
| ivoks | or just one? | 11:37 |
| garymc | all of em | 11:38 |
| ivoks | did they try powering it off and back on (computer, not server)? | 11:38 |
| garymc | yes | 11:38 |
| garymc | im gonna get them to do it again | 11:38 |
| ivoks | hm | 11:38 |
| ivoks | have you been playing with firewall? | 11:39 |
| ivoks | on server | 11:39 |
| garymc | i aint done nothing but upgraded last night | 11:39 |
| ivoks | ok | 11:39 |
| ivoks | install tftp-hpa | 11:40 |
| garymc | apt-get tftp-hpa ? | 11:41 |
| ivoks | apt-get install tftp-hpa | 11:41 |
| garymc | doing it | 11:41 |
| garymc | done | 11:41 |
| garymc | it said selcecting previously deselected package | 11:41 |
| garymc | should i get the terminals tested again? | 11:45 |
| ivoks | no | 11:46 |
| ivoks | do: | 11:46 |
| ivoks | tftp localhost | 11:46 |
| garymc | yes | 11:47 |
| garymc | im there | 11:47 |
| ivoks | status | 11:47 |
| ivoks | does it say Connected to localhost.localdomain | 11:47 |
| ivoks | ? | 11:47 |
| garymc | Connected to localhost | 11:48 |
| ivoks | ok | 11:48 |
| garymc | Mode: netascii Verbose: off Tracing: off Literal: off | 11:48 |
| garymc | Rexmt-interval: 5 seconds, Max-timeout: 25 seconds | 11:49 |
| ivoks | ok, quit | 11:50 |
| garymc | ok | 11:50 |
| ivoks | go to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp | 11:50 |
| ivoks | is there anything in it? | 11:50 |
| ivoks | my guess - not | 11:51 |
| garymc | yes | 11:51 |
| garymc | there is another folder | 11:51 |
| garymc | i386 | 11:52 |
| garymc | in there there is pxelinux and aload of files | 11:52 |
| ivoks | ok | 11:52 |
| ivoks | mkdir /root/ltsp-backup | 11:53 |
| garymc | ok | 11:53 |
| ivoks | mv /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/* /root/lts-backup/ | 11:53 |
| ivoks | sudo ltsp-build-client | 11:53 |
| garymc | NOTE: Root directory /opt/ltsp/i386 already exists, this will lead to problems, | 11:54 |
| garymc | please remove it before trying again. Exiting. | 11:54 |
| garymc | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally | 11:54 |
| ivoks | mkdir /root/ltsp-backup-opt | 11:54 |
| ivoks | mv /opt/ltsp/i386 /root/ltsp-backup-opt/ | 11:54 |
| ivoks | sudo ltsp-build-client | 11:55 |
| garymc | ok its doing something | 11:56 |
| ivoks | yes, that will take some time | 11:56 |
| ivoks | it will build new OS for the clients | 11:56 |
| garymc | ok | 11:57 |
| garymc | I hope this works | 11:57 |
| garymc | will my users still be there with there files etc? | 11:57 |
| ivoks | no clue :) | 11:58 |
| garymc | :S | 11:58 |
| ivoks | but you backed up your old config, so... | 11:58 |
| garymc | ok | 11:58 |
| garymc | did i.....:S | 11:58 |
| ivoks | yeah | 11:58 |
| ivoks | go to /root/ltsp-backup-opt/ | 11:59 |
| ivoks | there should be home subdirectory in it | 11:59 |
| ivoks | and there should be all the files from your users | 11:59 |
| ivoks | are they? | 12:00 |
| garymc | i cant find it | 12:00 |
| ivoks | well go to /root/ltsp-backup-opt/ | 12:01 |
| ivoks | what do you have there? | 12:01 |
| ivoks | i386, right? | 12:01 |
| garymc | i cant find root/ltsp-backup-opt/ | 12:02 |
| ivoks | /root/ltsp-backup-opt/ | 12:02 |
| ivoks | you created it | 12:02 |
| garymc | shit found them | 12:02 |
| garymc | whoops sorry for swearing | 12:02 |
| garymc | yes its there | 12:02 |
| ivoks | how many users? | 12:02 |
| garymc | I cant find the users | 12:03 |
| ivoks | in home | 12:03 |
| ivoks | how many directories? | 12:03 |
| ivoks | 10? 100? | 12:04 |
| ivoks | 1000? | 12:04 |
| garymc | hold on | 12:04 |
| ivoks | i have to go soon | 12:04 |
| garymc | none :S | 12:04 |
| garymc | no users in home | 12:04 |
| ivoks | 12:02 < garymc> shit found them | 12:04 |
| ivoks | did you found them or not? | 12:04 |
| garymc | ooooh shit, no I found the backup folder | 12:05 |
| garymc | no users inhome | 12:05 |
| ivoks | we are talking about backup folder | 12:05 |
| garymc | yes | 12:05 |
| garymc | no users in the home part | 12:05 |
| ivoks | problem is that you don't have a clue about what you are doing | 12:05 |
| ivoks | go to /root/ltsp-backup-opt/i386/home | 12:05 |
| ivoks | type in ls | 12:06 |
| ivoks | are there any directories? | 12:06 |
| garymc | no. none :( | 12:06 |
| garymc | no files | 12:06 |
| garymc | no directories | 12:06 |
| ivoks | so, what did you find then? | 12:06 |
| ivoks | when you said you found them | 12:07 |
| garymc | nothing an empty folder | 12:07 |
| garymc | I found the backup folder. | 12:07 |
| garymc | ltsp-backup-opt | 12:07 |
| ivoks | ok | 12:07 |
| garymc | its still rebuilding | 12:08 |
| garymc | i take it its gonna take a while | 12:08 |
| garymc | this isnt gonna mess up my Apache web server on here is it? | 12:10 |
| ivoks | no :) | 12:10 |
| garymc | ok good | 12:10 |
| ivoks | you have that thin client manager, right? | 12:11 |
| garymc | what you mean? | 12:11 |
| ivoks | http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-tcm.html | 12:11 |
| garymc | ltsp installation completed | 12:12 |
| ivoks | i don't see where it pulls home from :/ | 12:13 |
| garymc | yes, but I can only acces that when im at the ofice | 12:13 |
| garymc | AShh all my users are still there | 12:14 |
| garymc | its in /home | 12:14 |
| garymc | ok rebuild is done | 12:15 |
| garymc | should I ge tit tested at office? | 12:15 |
| ivoks | yes | 12:15 |
| garymc | will do | 12:15 |
| ivoks | and stay with them at the phone | 12:16 |
| ivoks | try to figure out if the machine is actually looking for network booting | 12:16 |
| garymc | it should be they are set to check network boot first | 12:17 |
| garymc | disk boot failure still | 12:21 |
| garymc | should i reboot server? | 12:21 |
| ivoks | you can try, but that shouldn't solve anything | 12:22 |
| ivoks | i have to go now | 12:23 |
| ivoks | good luck with booting your clients | 12:23 |
| garymc | ok thanks | 12:24 |
| ivoks | you need to go to the office and see what's really going on | 12:25 |
| ivoks | booting problems is easy to debug | 12:26 |
| ivoks | but you have to know where the problem is happening | 12:26 |
| ivoks | simple line BOOT FAILURE doesn't say much | 12:26 |
| Dibbler_ | can someone tell me if there is a more permenent solution these days when running dhcp3 server on a bridge , from the side of dhcp3 | 13:29 |
| Dibbler_ | atm i'm using a post-up pre-down script on br0 | 13:30 |
| Dibbler_ | but it doesn't seem the way to go tbh | 13:30 |
| garymc | ivoks : Im gonna go to office verry soon. ill be back on irc when I get there if your about would be great. | 13:39 |
| garymc | everyone gone? | 13:43 |
| databits | "FATAL: introduce_user() loop detected" can someone help me out with this little issue that I'm having ? | 14:01 |
| databits | I'm able to get anope connected to my unreal ircd but it is giving me that error. | 14:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #685505 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685505 | 14:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #685514 in net-snmp (main) "snmpd doesn't run as root by default - it should" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685514 | 14:21 |
| xperia_ | hello to all. i have big problems after the upgrade to maveric with the memcached service sometime this line in php $memcache->set("MyVar", "MyContent", false, 0); stores the value other times it dont store it even the variable dont exist in memcache | 14:31 |
| david506 | Hello, | 15:19 |
| david506 | I have a machine here that does not have "vmx" in the flags portion of cpuinfo. Is it still possible to run kvm even if it's slow, I want to test out kvm before installing it on a proper server. | 15:19 |
| xperia | hello to all. i am using this script here on a ubuntu maveric server. normaly this script should output the success message but it does not. what is wrong with memcached in ubuntu ? before the upgrade it worked everything well | 15:28 |
| xperia | http://paste-bin.com/view/raw/6b16c45d | 15:28 |
| xperia | does this script works okay on your side ? | 15:29 |
| ivoks | garymc: ok :) | 15:44 |
| cledu | Is there a single virtual machine image that I can load on my desktop to test out UEC locally? Trying to set it up on a single image so far has been a pain. | 15:46 |
| garymc | Hi Ivoks | 15:46 |
| garymc | I managed to fix it by my self :) | 15:46 |
| garymc | with the help of google | 15:47 |
| garymc | I changed a setting in a file rebooted server an HEY PRESTO | 15:47 |
| ivoks | nice | 15:48 |
| ivoks | finally learning :) | 15:48 |
| garymc | ivoks : I did this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/573975 | 15:48 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 573975 in tftp-hpa "pxe image fails to boot: "Forbidden directory" (dup-of: 531123)" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:48 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 531123 in tftp-hpa "pxe boot with tftpd-hpa failed with error: Forbidden Directory" [High,Fix released] | 15:48 |
| garymc | take a look | 15:48 |
| ivoks | excellent | 15:49 |
| ivoks | you found a bug | 15:49 |
| garymc | I dont knwo did i? | 15:49 |
| cledu | Anyway -- there's a lot of setup that goes into setting up UEC and it would be really nice to have an easy-to-try virtual appliance available for testing and development. | 15:49 |
| ivoks | so, you changed /etc/default/tftpd-hpa? | 15:49 |
| garymc | yes | 15:50 |
| garymc | was i on the right track | 15:51 |
| garymc | it was a pot luck go | 15:51 |
| ivoks | hm... | 15:52 |
| ivoks | can you paste it on pastebin.ubuntu.com | 15:52 |
| garymc | paste what? | 15:58 |
| garymc | ivoks | 15:58 |
| ivoks | content of /etc/default/tfpd-hpa | 15:59 |
| garymc | yeah no probs | 16:00 |
| ivoks | and paste the http link here | 16:01 |
| garymc | ivoks : http://pastebin.ca/2011217 | 16:01 |
| garymc | I added --secure | 16:01 |
| ivoks | without --secure it doesn't work? | 16:01 |
| garymc | well it didnt | 16:03 |
| garymc | News back after adding it it worked | 16:03 |
| ivoks | ok | 16:03 |
| garymc | Have to see for myself when i goto office in morning | 16:04 |
| ivoks | i guess ltsp requires secure connection to tftp | 16:04 |
| ivoks | i'd like to hear reasons for that :) | 16:04 |
| ivoks | can they log in and use computers? | 16:04 |
| garymc | there was one person left at office and they could login and use the computer | 16:05 |
| garymc | after i added secure | 16:05 |
| ivoks | ok then | 16:06 |
| ivoks | all files in place? | 16:06 |
| garymc | yes seem to be | 16:07 |
| garymc | Ill know for sure in the morning | 16:07 |
| ivoks | awesome | 16:07 |
| ivoks | all your problems are gone | 16:07 |
| ivoks | make sure you maintain that server | 16:07 |
| ivoks | apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade | 16:07 |
| ivoks | that for updating security fixes | 16:07 |
| garymc | yes i will | 16:07 |
| garymc | cheers | 16:08 |
| === 5EXABVMZK is now known as cokegen | ||
| xperia | could it be that php in ubuntu maverick is broken for memcache ? anybody here who is able to save values in memcache over php. i am using this test script here on my ubuntu maverick server and it does not work! => http://paste-bin.com/view/raw/ffe58b69 | 16:26 |
| xperia | it should however as it worked before the upgrade | 16:26 |
| === doko__ is now known as doko | ||
| izze | hey all | 16:34 |
| izze | anyone know how to connect to ubuntu ec2 instance with out the default ubuntu username? | 16:35 |
| ivoks | xperia: where does it fail? | 16:36 |
| xperia | ivoks: i have used this howto here https://wincent.com/wiki/testing_memcached_with_telnet to test memcached ovet telnet and it works great in the console. all values are stored like it should be | 16:37 |
| xperia | if i use however this php script that worked before the upgrade however none of the Values are stored in memcache http://paste-bin.com/view/raw/ffe58b69 | 16:38 |
| ivoks | xperia: so, again, where does it fail? this script prints different errors depending on where it fails | 16:38 |
| xperia | the line $memcache->set('MyTimeStamp', $timestamp, 0, 0) does not works for some reason in php after the ubuntu upgrade | 16:38 |
| xperia | i do not get the print("SUCESS3"); line and becouse of this no value is somehow stored after the upgrade. for me it looks like php memcache is broken in maverick | 16:39 |
| ivoks | SUCESS1<br>PHP Notice: MemcachePool::delete(): Server 127.0.0.1 (tcp 11211, udp 0) failed with: CLIENT_ERROR bad command line format. Usage: delete <key> [noreply] | 16:41 |
| ivoks | this is what i get with this script | 16:41 |
| ivoks | problem with this script | 16:42 |
| xperia | ivoks hmm how did you get this additional debug messages. i just get outputed SUCESS1 and Deleted here | 16:42 |
| ivoks | is that it dies if MyTimeStamp doesn't exist | 16:42 |
| ivoks | with php-cli | 16:43 |
| ivoks | when i remove: | 16:43 |
| ivoks | if($memcache->delete('MyTimeStamp')) print("SUCESS2<br>"); | 16:43 |
| ivoks | i get: | 16:43 |
| ivoks | SUCESS1<br>Deleted<br>SUCESS31291567348<br> | 16:43 |
| ivoks | then again: | 16:43 |
| ivoks | SUCESS1<br>Not Deleted<br>FILETIME = 1291567348SUCESS31291567397<br> | 16:44 |
| xperia | ivoks woow you are great | 16:44 |
| xperia | man you solved the problem big compliments but really strange that it does die if you want delete something that do not exist. this was not allways that way | 16:44 |
| xperia | is this a bug ? i guess yes ! | 16:45 |
| xperia | must be in package php5-memcache | 16:45 |
| ivoks | don't know | 16:46 |
| ivoks | i hate php | 16:46 |
| xperia | this connection breaks to memcache in the php script make sure a lot of scripts non functional i guess | 16:46 |
| xperia | ivoks really ? woow how do you then programm websites ithout php ? | 16:47 |
| ivoks | i think logic in this script is bad | 16:47 |
| ivoks | deleting an object without checking if it exists... | 16:47 |
| xperia | okay i will fix it here then. ivoks i thank you really for this great help. you are awesome man ! | 16:49 |
| ivoks | maybe [noreply] would help | 16:49 |
| ivoks | Usage: delete <key> [noreply] | 16:49 |
| ivoks | i guess it wouldn't fail then | 16:49 |
| ivoks | np | 16:49 |
| xperia | ivoks this feature does not exist in the package php5-memcache => http://www.php.net/manual/de/memcache.delete.php | 16:51 |
| xperia | ehh sorry => http://www.php.net/manual/en/memcache.delete.php | 16:51 |
| ivoks | my german is rusty | 16:51 |
| xperia | geoip sorry | 16:51 |
| xperia | here it show full english even of the geop | 16:52 |
| xperia | well what we can say that php breaks memcache 100% when you delete something that does not exist | 16:52 |
| xperia | will just inform the php group about this | 16:53 |
| ivoks | don't know... but that's where you are | 16:53 |
| stgraber | ivoks: I'm around now ;) | 16:57 |
| ivoks | stgraber: too late :D | 16:57 |
| ivoks | stgraber: we had an issue with ltsp client not booting | 16:57 |
| ivoks | stgraber: turns out tftpd did do 'secure' | 16:58 |
| ivoks | stgraber: is there a reason why client would require secured connection? :) | 16:58 |
| stgraber | tftp and secure in the same sentence always sound a bit weird ;) | 16:58 |
| ivoks | yeah | 16:58 |
| ivoks | anyway | 17:01 |
| ivoks | guy added --secure to tftpd and things worked out | 17:02 |
| ivoks | it was an update from karmic to lucid | 17:04 |
| izze | hi anyone have any exp with ubuntu on ec2? | 17:11 |
| izze | ssh to ubuntu@ec2instance works | 17:11 |
| izze | but trying ssh newuser@ec2 does not work, even when pointing to the key file. for example: | 17:12 |
| === lavish_ is now known as lavish | ||
| ermo | Hello folks :) | 18:42 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #685590 in dovecot (main) "dovecot 1.2.9 not compatible with thunderbird" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685590 | 18:46 |
| SpaceBass | hey folks | 18:52 |
| SpaceBass | I installed kernel sources but can't find the build directroy - any idea where it gets installed? | 18:53 |
| shauno | SpaceBass: I think the source package just installs a tarball. try dpkg -L linux-source-(version) | 19:05 |
| SpaceBass | shauno, thanks | 19:08 |
| SpaceBass | found the tarball | 19:08 |
| SpaceBass | the package Im trying to compile still insists the kernel source doesnt exist, even when I give it the explicate path.... think its the package | 19:09 |
| AndyGraybeal | space bass, as in the fish or the sound? | 19:10 |
| xperia_ | hello to all. i have upgraded my ubuntu server but for some strange reason apache or php are searching now files in the directory /usr/share | 19:11 |
| xperia_ | where is this strange path defined to search my files there | 19:13 |
| xperia_ | as a examle if i call this url here => http://wificom.ch/javascript/test.js | 19:13 |
| xperia_ | i get this strange apache error | 19:13 |
| xperia_ | [Sun Dec 05 20:05:03 2010] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/javascript/test.js | 19:13 |
| xperia_ | together with the message file can be not found | 19:13 |
| SpaceBass | AndyGraybeal, bass as in bass, not bass | 19:27 |
| SpaceBass | xperia_, it sounds like the web root has been changed | 19:28 |
| SpaceBass | xperia_, whats defined in /etc/apache/config | 19:28 |
| xperia_ | SpaceBass: will just look at it. maybe /etc/hosts was changed too after upgrade | 19:33 |
| AndyGraybeal | SpaceBass: thanks for clearing that up. | 19:33 |
| SpaceBass | AndyGraybeal, :D - its bass as in the insturment | 19:33 |
| AndyGraybeal | :) | 19:33 |
| AndyGraybeal | i liked the dry british styled humor. | 19:34 |
| xperia_ | SpaceBass: i have nothing with webroot in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | 19:37 |
| SpaceBass | xperia_, sorry, its documentroot and its defined in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default | 19:39 |
| === squishy is now known as SquishyNotHere | ||
| xperia_ | SpaceBass: http://paste-bin.com/view/a7f68601 | 19:52 |
| xperia_ | it is set right and i am able to call the files in this document root but calling files in sub directory lead allways to the message file could be not find and i get the error message in apache error log | 19:54 |
| xperia_ | [Sun Dec 05 20:05:03 2010] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/javascript/test.js | 19:54 |
| xperia_ | the file http://wificom.ch/javascript/test.js exist however | 19:54 |
| xperia_ | it is heavy strange and i dont know what exactly really the problem is | 19:55 |
| xperia_ | SpaceBass: example => http://wificom.ch/test.html works ! => http://wificom.ch/javascript/test.html does not work | 20:00 |
| xperia_ | File exist however ! => ls -la /var/www/wificom/javascript | 20:00 |
| xperia_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 81 2010-12-05 20:04 test.html | 20:00 |
| xperia_ | any help for this heavy strange error. before the upgrade everything worked like it should ! | 20:00 |
| xperia_ | looks like apache search allways in usr/share when it comes to subdirs | 20:01 |
| === xperia_ is now known as xperia | ||
| ivoks | you again | 20:18 |
| xperia | ivoks yeah its me :-) have problems after server upgrade :-) | 20:19 |
| ivoks | what's up? | 20:19 |
| dominicdinada | anybody good with WAN here ? | 20:19 |
| xperia | ivoks: well as said this url => http://wificom.ch/test.html works ! this url however => http://wificom.ch/javascript/test.html does not work | 20:19 |
| xperia | i get allways the error message [Sun Dec 05 20:05:03 2010] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/javascript/test.js | 20:20 |
| ivoks | You don't have permission to access /javascript/ on this server. | 20:20 |
| ivoks | ok | 20:20 |
| xperia | the file exist however and path is right => ls -la /var/www/wificom/javascript | 20:20 |
| xperia | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 81 2010-12-05 20:04 test.html | 20:20 |
| ivoks | is there an .htaccess file in /var/www/wificom/javascript | 20:20 |
| xperia | i have changed allready permissions but it does not help as apache looks for some strange reason in /usr&share instead of the document root directory http://paste-bin.com/view/a7f68601 | 20:21 |
| xperia | ivoks: .htaccess file does not exist in /var/www/wificom anywhere | 20:22 |
| ivoks | there's never a strange reason | 20:22 |
| ivoks | are you sure it's looking in /usr/share? | 20:23 |
| ivoks | you pasted a link to ..javascript/test.html | 20:23 |
| ivoks | and then pasted the error for javascript/test.js | 20:24 |
| xperia | ivoks: based on the error log it apache2 look to find this files in /usr/share | 20:25 |
| xperia | [Sun Dec 05 20:05:03 2010] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/javascript/test.js | 20:25 |
| ivoks | it's test.js | 20:25 |
| ivoks | but the link is test.html | 20:25 |
| xperia | well okay test.html exist also but dont load also | 20:25 |
| ivoks | therefor, i'm sure you have rewrite somewhere, with broken rules | 20:25 |
| ivoks | do you see test.html in error log? | 20:25 |
| ivoks | tail your log now | 20:26 |
| ivoks | i've asked for nonexistingfile.html | 20:26 |
| ivoks | do you see that in error log? | 20:26 |
| xperia | ivoks: okay here are the files http://paste-bin.com/view/a271382e | 20:27 |
| xperia | and here is error log | 20:27 |
| xperia | [Sun Dec 05 20:04:39 2010] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/javascript/test.html | 20:27 |
| xperia | [Sun Dec 05 20:05:03 2010] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/javascript/test.js | 20:27 |
| ivoks | ok | 20:28 |
| ivoks | how about nonexistingfile.html? | 20:28 |
| ivoks | http://wificom.ch/javascript/nonexistingfile.html | 20:28 |
| ivoks | in your logs | 20:28 |
| xperia | [Sun Dec 05 21:28:26 2010] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/javascript/nonexistingfile.html | 20:28 |
| xperia | [Sun Dec 05 21:28:29 2010] [error] [client 93.138.88.10] File does not exist: /usr/share/javascript/nonexistingfile.html | 20:28 |
| ivoks | ok | 20:29 |
| xperia | last ip is probably yours | 20:29 |
| ivoks | and there's no /var/www/wificom/.htaccess? | 20:29 |
| xperia | it drives me crazy this problem most of my ites are broken but they worked without any problems before the upgrade | 20:29 |
| ivoks | most of your sites? | 20:29 |
| ivoks | so, not just this one? | 20:30 |
| ivoks | then go to /etc/apache2 | 20:30 |
| ivoks | and run: | 20:30 |
| ivoks | grep -sr javascript * | 20:30 |
| xperia | ivoks: all of my vhost sites on this server have this problem | 20:31 |
| xperia | ls -la /var/www/wificom/ | 20:31 |
| xperia | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2010-12-05 20:57 . | 20:31 |
| xperia | drwxrwxrwx 26 root root 4096 2010-12-04 18:01 .. | 20:31 |
| xperia | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2010-08-13 21:03 index.html | 20:31 |
| xperia | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-12-05 20:06 javascript | 20:31 |
| xperia | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 81 2010-12-05 20:57 test.html | 20:31 |
| xperia | so no .htacces file anywhere | 20:31 |
| ivoks | if all have problem, then your system wide config is broken | 20:31 |
| ivoks | go to /etc/apache2 | 20:31 |
| xperia | vhost works but as you try to access subdir nothing is loaded | 20:31 |
| xperia | ivoks okay i am in /etc/apache2 | 20:32 |
| ivoks | grep -sr javascript * | 20:32 |
| ermo | I've just finished migrating my home server. Thing is, I get dropped to an (initramfs) prompt because my software raid-10 partition backing my lvm volume group isn't started automatically. I simply need to mdadm --assemble my raid partitions and then the boot continues. Do you folks have an idea of what I could try? | 20:33 |
| xperia | "/etc/apache2$ sudo grep -sr javascript *" | 20:33 |
| xperia | conf.d/javascript-common.conf:Alias /javascript /usr/share/javascript/ | 20:33 |
| xperia | conf.d/javascript-common.conf:<Directory "/usr/share/javascript/"> | 20:33 |
| xperia | mods-available/deflate.conf: AddOutputFilterByType DEFLATE application/x-javascript application/javascript application/ecmascript | 20:33 |
| ivoks | there you go | 20:33 |
| ivoks | conf.d/javascript-common.conf:Alias /javascript /usr/share/javascript/ | 20:33 |
| ermo | I'm not entirely sure that my raid metadata is version 0.90 -- I suppose I should check that ... | 20:33 |
| xperia | ohhhhh man how did that happen ! | 20:34 |
| ivoks | xperia: check | 20:34 |
| xperia | its crazy such thing | 20:34 |
| ivoks | xperia: dpkg -S /etc/apache2/conf.d/javascript-common.conf | 20:34 |
| ermo | I should also mention that my dmesg says that the requisite raid modules are loaded :) | 20:34 |
| xperia | ivoks: "/etc/apache2$ sudo dpkg -S /etc/apache2/conf.d/javascript-common.conf" | 20:35 |
| xperia | dpkg: /etc/apache2/conf.d/javascript-common.conf could not be found | 20:35 |
| xperia | ivoks: file exist however ! | 20:36 |
| xperia | i try it again to recheck | 20:36 |
| ivoks | xperia: that check is only for packages | 20:36 |
| ivoks | xperia: it means that no package created that file | 20:37 |
| ermo | Hrm. I should probably use --update the next time I assemble the arrays. | 20:38 |
| xperia | hmmm this knoweledge that you have is beyonf my horizont sorry asking such dumb questions as i am new user and learning but what does that mean. it was not cleared after the upgrade and need now to be removed ? | 20:38 |
| xperia | hmm i really asking me how this files where installed. it must be done by the upgrade process as i have never installed this files | 20:39 |
| xperia | ivoks: thinks know now what the reason is for this files where installed ! | 20:42 |
| xperia | "/etc/apache2/conf.d$ ls -la" | 20:42 |
| xperia | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2009-11-01 16:02 gallery -> /etc/gallery/apache.conf | 20:42 |
| xperia | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 2010-12-04 19:24 javascript-common.conf -> /etc/javascript-common/javascript-common.conf | 20:42 |
| xperia | its gallery. it was updated and asked me if i want to use the new config files for the new package and it has then installed this link javascript-common.conf -> /etc/javascript-common/javascript-common.conf | 20:43 |
| xperia | in apache2/conf.d | 20:43 |
| xperia | well maybe also not | 20:44 |
| shauno | http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/javascript-common | 20:44 |
| ivoks | well, there you go | 20:46 |
| ivoks | now you know everything | 20:46 |
| ivoks | why would anyone package systemwide alias for /javascript is beyond me | 20:46 |
| shauno | wasn't me :) | 20:46 |
| xperia | i have just done a "/usr/share/javascript$ ls"and got this here as result | 20:47 |
| xperia | /mootools$ ls | 20:47 |
| xperia | mootools-core-jm.js mootools-core-server.js mootools.js mootools-more.js mootools-more-yc.js | 20:47 |
| xperia | mootools-core-nc.js mootools-core-yc.js mootools-more-jm.js mootools-more-nc.js | 20:47 |
| ivoks | mootools | 20:47 |
| ivoks | i like the name :) | 20:47 |
| ivoks | footools | 20:47 |
| ivoks | bartools | 20:47 |
| ivoks | kidding | 20:47 |
| xperia | looks like this need files/scripts use this global path | 20:47 |
| shauno | libjs-mootools appears to recommend javascript-common | 20:48 |
| ivoks | Web applications that use JavaScript need to distribute it through HTTP. Using a common path for every script avoids the need to enable this path in the HTTP server for every package. | 20:48 |
| ivoks | what are these guys smoking? | 20:49 |
| xperia | all my vhost sites are broken because of this since days after the upgrade ! winning heavy | 20:49 |
| shauno | it seems that installing webapps from repo is going to end up an all-or-nothing approach | 20:49 |
| ivoks | yeah | 20:50 |
| ivoks | stupid | 20:50 |
| ivoks | Javascript maintainers | 20:51 |
| ivoks | xperia: so, as an easy way ouy | 20:51 |
| xperia | cool i am hearing | 20:51 |
| ivoks | open up /etc/javascript-common/javascript-common.conf | 20:51 |
| xperia | yes | 20:51 |
| ivoks | and rename that alias from /javascript to /braindeadpackage | 20:51 |
| ivoks | and then, in gallery, if you are using it, find /javascript/ paths and replace them with /braindeadpackage/ | 20:52 |
| ivoks | pure existance of this package is a bug | 20:52 |
| shauno | and next time every domain you host gets clobbered, change them again ;) | 20:53 |
| xperia | ha ha ha okay will do and then restart the apache server. about gallyer i have installed it but dont know really if it is becouse of gallery or other package was the reason. but i will check it out | 20:53 |
| ivoks | my rule: never install we apps from archive | 20:53 |
| ivoks | we, developers, tend to be smarter than we are | 20:54 |
| ivoks | and then fuck up | 20:54 |
| ivoks | pardon my language | 20:54 |
| xperia | good working on fix now:. ivoks you are a awesome person really. such expert people like you should have more in the world: | 20:54 |
| xperia | shauno thank you also a lot for the help. thinked since hours i am lost becouse of this strange problem | 20:54 |
| ivoks | thanks | 20:55 |
| ivoks | i'm going out for a smoke now | 20:55 |
| xperia | ivoks: have nice pause and time | 20:56 |
| ruben23 | hi guys i install dnsmasq but the problem is when i used the linux box as dns aside for gateway- PC will timeout and wont connect to internet if i make it dhcp it will connect. | 20:56 |
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| shauno | that's a little unnerving. the only packages I can find (on .04) that depend on libjs-mootools are myphpadmin and midori. | 21:00 |
| shauno | midori's a gtk-webkit browser. why's it pulling in packages that'd alter your apache config? | 21:01 |
| xperia | shauno: well while the upgrade myphpadmin was updated and i was asked if i want to install the new config files. based on your research i would say it is becouse of phpmyadmin then with a possibility of 80% | 21:01 |
| xperia | i will just restart the webserver and test if phpmyadmin still works | 21:02 |
| shauno | xperia: most likely myphpadmin, yes. not many people install gui webbrowsers on -server ;) | 21:03 |
| xperia | ruben23: i itself use bind9 and dont use dnsmasq. resolves everything on bind9 here =>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto recomend using also bind9 instead of dnsmasq | 21:03 |
| xperia | ivoks: shauno:my sites works now great. so the fix recomended by ivoks worked great. all my sites now are running the way like before. checking now phpmyadmin how it works. | 21:19 |
| xperia | shauno: well everytime i install something it is recomended to install it from the repo. all external packages are a security treat. i never thinked that webapplication would make anyproblems and till yet did also not had any problem. | 21:19 |
| ivoks | idea is to create common packages, that all web apps could use | 21:20 |
| ivoks | mixing non-archive with archive web apps then results in this kind of problems | 21:20 |
| ivoks | fwiw, webmails are much smarter | 21:20 |
| ivoks | they create /webmail or /roundcube aliases | 21:21 |
| ivoks | but leave it disabled by default | 21:21 |
| ivoks | so you have to enable it; therefor, you are aware of that alias | 21:21 |
| ivoks | this, with /javascipt is just nonsense | 21:21 |
| xperia | ivoks: tested now also phpmyadmin and it works still same. so the change in the alias does not affect really a lot phpmyadmin. looks like this mootools is not really used a lot here. | 21:28 |
| aarcane | can I use apparmor to allow users to run programs with elevated permissions ? (similar to pfexec or sudo) | 21:28 |
| ivoks | aarcane: afaik, apparmor is for restricting | 21:29 |
| aarcane | ivoks, I know it's primary use case is restricting, but it'd be nice if it could simplify the use of certain semi-administrative apps (let certain users use certain apps in elevated mode automatically) | 21:31 |
| * ivoks shrugs | 21:32 | |
| * ivoks 4 | 21:33 | |
| ivoks | ups | 21:33 |
| aarcane | oh well. | 21:35 |
| * aarcane off to do some programming school work~ | 21:36 | |
| aarcane | thanks ivoks. | 21:36 |
| xperia | see you all next time need to write at my websites. have all nice time. bye | 21:54 |
| aristo | hi, does anyone knows a way to setup a mailserver with a dinamic ip using bind9 as dns? | 22:05 |
| qman__ | aristo, in order for a mail server to work reliably it needs a static IP | 22:25 |
| qman__ | DNS can take up to 48 hours to propogate, and during that time you won't get any mail | 22:26 |
| aristo | qman__ i'm aware of that, the problem is that currently our isp is not able to give static ip | 22:27 |
| aristo | i tried with DynDns and others services but i cannot receive any incoming mail from outside | 22:28 |
| qman__ | ok, but installing bind on your server won't really help in this case, unless you already host your own internet DNS | 22:28 |
| qman__ | is your ISP also blocking port 25? | 22:28 |
| qman__ | most residential ones do | 22:29 |
| aristo | lemme verify that | 22:29 |
| qman__ | also, most spam filters will block you | 22:30 |
| qman__ | static IP is basically a requirement to get taken off their lists | 22:30 |
| aristo | nmap online shows only 22, 80 and 110 ports opened | 22:34 |
| fluvvell | aristo, do you have a choice of isp ? | 22:40 |
| aristo | well basically not | 22:41 |
| fluvvell | does basically not mean cost to high? | 22:41 |
| aristo | means that here are only 3 mayor isp | 22:48 |
| aristo | all 3 sucks | 22:49 |
| JanC | eh, there must be access providers that sell internet access to companies, right? | 22:54 |
| fluvvell | and none of them have fixed ip addresses available? | 22:54 |
| electrofreak | I have a concern... I started out with 3 2TB Samsung drives in RAID-5... each drive has 4x500GB platters. I just bought another of what I thought was the same drive... but I discovered after receiving it in the mail that is is actually a new model... with 3x666GB platters. What are the implications of adding it to my RAID5? | 23:33 |
| electrofreak | do adaptec RAID cards care? I have a 5405 | 23:35 |
| cokegen | electrofreak: I think none | 23:40 |
| electrofreak | cokegen, can it affect performance? | 23:41 |
| c0nv1ct | i wouldnt think it could decrease it, since the 3x666GB would be faster... i'd guess that the array would be limited by the slower drives you already have | 23:41 |
| c0nv1ct | and by "faster" i dont really mean by that much ;) | 23:43 |
| electrofreak | c0nv1ct, yea... performance wise, there isn't that much difference... but yes, the newer model is apparently faster | 23:44 |
| qman__ | electrofreak, the physical construct of the drive is completely invisible to the rest of your hardware | 23:44 |
| qman__ | it's handled entirely in the disk's own controller | 23:44 |
| cokegen | qman__ is right | 23:45 |
| cokegen | there are no problems but the "speed" thing | 23:45 |
| qman__ | right | 23:47 |
| cokegen | I just removed the quiet and splash part of my grub entry | 23:48 |
| qman__ | your RAID will only perform as well as the slowest, smallest drive you have | 23:48 |
| cokegen | I'm trying to get console output at bootup | 23:48 |
| qman__ | and having a wide variation in performance can cause spikes and such | 23:48 |
| qman__ | but just one newer model shouldn't be a problem | 23:48 |
| cokegen | but that didn't worked ... anyone knows how ? | 23:48 |
| qman__ | cokegen, that's because of upstart | 23:49 |
| qman__ | or rather, plymouth | 23:49 |
| qman__ | in order to get console output at boot you have to modify the plymouth upstart scripts | 23:49 |
| cokegen | qman__ thx | 23:50 |
| cokegen | I come from old linuxes | 23:50 |
| qman__ | I really hate it too | 23:50 |
| qman__ | here's what I did | 23:51 |
| qman__ | in /etc/init/plymouth-splash.conf, comment the exec line at the bottom | 23:51 |
| qman__ | exec /bin/plymouth show-splash | 23:51 |
| electrofreak | cokegen, qman__, I just thought there might be some timing thing that can throw the RAID controller off... | 23:51 |
| qman__ | and the same line in /etc/init/plymouth.conf, near the bottom | 23:52 |
| qman__ | I think that's all I had to do | 23:52 |
| electrofreak | qman__, ooo, I hate that splash screen... but that plymouth thing is 10.10, right? I'm running server 10.04 | 23:52 |
| qman__ | no | 23:53 |
| qman__ | it's actually new as of 9.10 IIRC | 23:53 |
| qman__ | and it's in 10.04 | 23:53 |
| electrofreak | oh, so disabling it would be the same... | 23:53 |
| qman__ | it really should be configurable | 23:53 |
| qman__ | removing quiet splash really should disable it | 23:53 |
| qman__ | but it doesn't, you have to go modify those files | 23:53 |
| electrofreak | qman__, just comment out this whole post-start script block, right? (in /etc/init/plymouth.conf) | 23:55 |
| qman__ | no, just the exec line | 23:56 |
| qman__ | I mean, you could | 23:56 |
| qman__ | I just did the one line | 23:56 |
| electrofreak | qman__, well, the whole if statement is just for that 1 line, heh. I figured it'd be fine to just comment out the whole block. | 23:56 |
| qman__ | and really, the whole plymouth-splash.conf could be commented/removed/disabled | 23:59 |
| qman__ | but I don't know of a way to disable things in upstart | 23:59 |
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