| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| AlanBell | popey: the curry was great, but seems to have had an adverse affect on my legs | 00:02 |
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| === emma is now known as em | ||
| === Richie is now known as WelshDragon | ||
| === jean is now known as foxmike | ||
| === jean is now known as foxmike | ||
| === em is now known as emma | ||
| AlanBell | morning all | 10:00 |
| Jibadeeha | time to try lincity-ng - hope it is as good as simcity | 10:01 |
| nperry | Morning All. | 10:18 |
| issyl0 | Morning :) | 10:20 |
| * nigelb waves to issyl0 | 10:28 | |
| issyl0 | nigelb: !! | 10:28 |
| nigelb | heh | 10:29 |
| nigelb | issyl0: Enjoying college and the snow? :) | 10:30 |
| bigcalm | Greetings, Earthlings | 10:31 |
| issyl0 | nigelb: haha :) | 10:31 |
| issyl0 | nigelb: it'll be open tomorrow :( | 10:31 |
| nigelb | issyl0: heh | 10:32 |
| issyl0 | nigelb: I bet it's still very warm over there? | 10:33 |
| nigelb | issyl0: Oh yes. I'm in Kerala (my hometown), its probably cloes to 30s | 10:33 |
| issyl0 | Wow. Can I come and visit? :P | 10:34 |
| * issyl0 prefers heat to cold. | 10:34 | |
| nigelb | heh, anytime :p | 10:34 |
| gord | i have networking issues but its a sunday and i'm too lazy to fix them =\ | 10:36 |
| nigelb | hah, understandable | 10:36 |
| nigelb | Anyone tried out node.js? | 10:38 |
| nigelb | hello dogmatic69 :) | 10:40 |
| dogmatic69 | sup | 10:41 |
| dogmatic69 | you following me around now :P | 10:41 |
| nigelb | no way, I was just here saying hi to folks :0 | 10:45 |
| dogmatic69 | the snow is all gone now :( | 10:45 |
| nigelb | Don't let everyone hear you and whack you on the head :p | 10:45 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings all. | 12:05 |
| BigRedS | g'morning brobostigon | 12:20 |
| brobostigon | hi BigRedS | 12:20 |
| BigRedS | Heloo! How're you? | 12:21 |
| brobostigon | BigRedS: my back and hip hurt, how about you? | 12:22 |
| BigRedS | mild headache from last night's drinking, but other than that pretty good. Pleasantly surprised to see no snow today, too ;0 | 12:23 |
| BigRedS | :), even | 12:23 |
| brobostigon | :) | 12:23 |
| * BigRedS needs to fix his shift key | 12:23 | |
| BigRedS | I've been in London for the week and need to get back up to cambridgeshire today, wasn't looking forward to the prospect of riding up in the snow | 12:24 |
| brobostigon | no snow either here, but cool temperatures forecast and cloud and mist. | 12:24 |
| brobostigon | -1 to +1, roughly. | 12:24 |
| BigRedS | ah, I think it's 1+ all the way from here to cambs, which is nice | 12:25 |
| brobostigon | :) | 12:29 |
| andylockran | Guys - about to buy a new IP phone - any recommendations ? | 14:10 |
| andylockran | sub £100 | 14:10 |
| marsilainen | andylockran: out of the phones that I tried a few years ago, I was most happy with the snom phones | 14:13 |
| marsilainen | andylockran: of course, things may have changed since then - but I'd definitely give them consideration at least | 14:14 |
| marsilainen | andylockran: I was mainly using them with asterisk | 14:14 |
| andylockran | yeah, that's what I use with | 14:18 |
| marsilainen | I found that the snom phones were very configurable, and had lots of info available | 14:19 |
| marsilainen | so was able to get them to do what I wanted easily - well as easy as anything in the VoIP world is | 14:20 |
| === emma is now known as em | ||
| andylockran | ta marsilainen | 14:33 |
| marsilainen | np | 14:36 |
| dogmatic69 | had something wierd happen last night, first noticed i could not empty the "recycle bin" and then later on noticed log out was dissabled | 15:51 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone know what would cause that? | 15:51 |
| * jacobw downloads 11.04 Alpha 1 | 15:55 | |
| andylockran | dogmatic69: no idea matey, sorry | 16:05 |
| dogmatic69 | its all fine after a restart | 16:06 |
| dogmatic69 | just wierd | 16:06 |
| Richie | It's time of the month? | 16:06 |
| oly | anyone able to tell me how you middle click with a touchpad ? | 16:07 |
| andylockran | oly: two keys at the same time | 16:07 |
| andylockran | keys/buttons | 16:07 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: Out of interest was it missing anything else, e.g. your normal settings for the window manager setup or anything else? | 16:07 |
| oly | did try that did not seem to work | 16:07 |
| dogmatic69 | penguin42: that was all i noticed | 16:07 |
| oly | ah your quite right andylockran | 16:08 |
| oly | it obviously the app not supporting it, thats annoying | 16:08 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: I've had a few things latetly where I've logged in and it has missed most config; e.g. number of virutal desktops, position of menus etc - logging in and out fixed it | 16:08 |
| dogmatic69 | oh ok | 16:08 |
| dogmatic69_ | . | 16:10 |
| === dogmatic69_ is now known as dogmatic69 | ||
| dogmatic69 | ff... pos | 16:11 |
| ali1234 | wow... unity is awful | 16:33 |
| ali1234 | you can only open one nautilus window, one firefox window etc | 16:35 |
| ali1234 | actually if you want to open anything other than nautilus, firefox or tomboy you are pretty much screwed, because there is no longer a start menu | 16:36 |
| ali1234 | there is a workspace switcher with 4 workspaces, although i can't see how you would ever be able to use more than three of them | 16:37 |
| Laney | i thought you clicked the top icon or something? | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | ali1234, it is work in progress, the dash hasn't landed yet | 16:38 |
| Laney | (never used it) | 16:38 |
| ali1234 | Laney: the top icon just does "nautilus /usr/share/applications" | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | yes, that's only temporary until the dash lands | 16:38 |
| ali1234 | the menu mover doesn't work in firefox either | 16:39 |
| chrisccoulson | huh? | 16:39 |
| ali1234 | the firefox menu is in the normal place | 16:39 |
| ali1234 | not at the top of the screen like all others | 16:40 |
| chrisccoulson | right | 16:40 |
| chrisccoulson | that's actually what i'[m working on right now ;) | 16:40 |
| ali1234 | i might consider using this on a tablet | 16:40 |
| ali1234 | but it is completely unsuitable for use on a real computer | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | hmm, perhaps you should make that judgement when all the bits of it actually appear | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | people seem to be quick to criticise something that is nowhere near complete | 16:41 |
| Nafallo | alpha1 != final | 16:43 |
| ali1234 | so i'm not allowed to comment on this until it is too late to do anything about it? | 16:43 |
| chrisccoulson | ali1234, it's fine to comment, but you're basing your negative judgement on things which aren't even implemented yet | 16:44 |
| ali1234 | wow, i can;t even move dialogue windows | 16:44 |
| chrisccoulson | what dialog windows? | 16:46 |
| chrisccoulson | works fine here | 16:46 |
| ali1234 | for example, the dialogue window that asks you to enter a password when you create a new gnome keyribng | 16:46 |
| chrisccoulson | that works fine here, so it must be a bug | 16:49 |
| ali1234 | heh, i found out how to open two firefox windows | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | file -> New window? | 16:50 |
| ali1234 | you have to click the icon twice before firefox actually loads up, then you can have two | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, that shouldn't happen ;) | 16:50 |
| ali1234 | now it won't load at all | 16:51 |
| ali1234 | no more firefox windows for me | 16:51 |
| ali1234 | if you start a file manager from a desktop icon it doesn't stack properly with the others | 16:53 |
| ali1234 | firefox 4 seems nice and fast | 16:56 |
| ali1234 | compared with 3 anyway | 16:56 |
| ali1234 | i note that the unity panels don't follow the system theme like the gnome ones do | 17:02 |
| ali1234 | i hope that gets fixed | 17:02 |
| ali1234 | wow... the way the unity dock thing responds when it gets full is simply the worst thing i have ever seen on a UI | 17:11 |
| ali1234 | you can't unmaximise a single window | 17:14 |
| ali1234 | clicking the dock unmaximises all windows of that type... awful | 17:15 |
| sprite | why has realtek wifi suddenly become such a burden with lucid? | 17:25 |
| MartijnVdS | because realtek never wrote drivers? | 17:27 |
| moreati | sprite: Wasn't it always a burden? | 17:29 |
| sprite | perhaps. I didn't really have so many issues with hardy | 17:30 |
| sprite | more laptop manufacturers are moving towards realtek now tho :S | 17:30 |
| Nafallo | realtek does wifi now? | 17:31 |
| jacobw | i was thinking realtek audio '97 when realtek was mentioned | 17:31 |
| Nafallo | I've always classed ralink as the realtek of wireless, so I might have to change that now :-P | 17:32 |
| moreati | jacobw: That's probably how their chips were started - hooked up an AC97 DAC to a 2.4 Ghz antenna | 17:33 |
| sprite | yes they do. it saves money on the manufacturing process | 17:33 |
| Azelphur | you know things are bad when you have a 80,000 and counting backtrace | 17:48 |
| suprengr | buhga! -5 forecast for 2morro morning... anyone fancying covering for me...? | 18:00 |
| suprengr | [ & hi all o/ ] | 18:00 |
| * jacobw also checks the weather forecast | 18:02 | |
| jacobw | similar, -7 at 06:00 warming up to -5 at 09:00 :( | 18:03 |
| suprengr | jacobw: ok you win the competition - my -5 was based on 07:00 forecast | 18:05 |
| sprite | finally... nothing like recompiling shit with a 300mhz processor lol | 18:07 |
| suprengr | sprite: recompiling sh*t? you can't change sh*T - surely u just flush down that where it belongs! | 18:09 |
| sprite | hahahaha | 18:10 |
| Azelphur | that backtrace finished, 127k entries (358k lines) \o/ | 18:10 |
| Azelphur | I think I win the record for the longest backtrace :D | 18:10 |
| sprite | screenshot | 18:10 |
| Azelphur | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/misc/gdb-Xorg.txt.tar.gz better :p | 18:10 |
| Azelphur | the whole backtrace gzip'd xD | 18:10 |
| Azelphur | anyone smart feel free to figure out what's broken with that, X keeps crashing because of it. | 18:11 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: which driver? | 18:16 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: nvidia | 18:16 |
| dutchie | right, time to fix this laptop | 18:16 |
| Azelphur | 185 | 18:16 |
| MartijnVdS | send the trace to nvidia | 18:16 |
| MartijnVdS | nobody else can helpt | 18:17 |
| MartijnVdS | -t | 18:17 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: but the bt has nothing to do with nvidia, it's all in Xorg, specifically libarecord | 18:17 |
| MartijnVdS | it could be triggered by nvidia | 18:18 |
| MartijnVdS | because its driver pokes in some place it shouldn't | 18:18 |
| MartijnVdS | that's the problem with closed drivers, you don't know what they do (wrong) | 18:19 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: before jumping to that conclusion I'll have an X person look over it, since it's X that's crashing :) | 18:20 |
| MartijnVdS | I know what kernel people say if you say 'nvidia' ;) | 18:21 |
| Azelphur | haha | 18:21 |
| MartijnVdS | "But the USB driver crashed" "Sure, but you had the nvidia module loaded." | 18:21 |
| Azelphur | xD | 18:21 |
| beerpages | Kostenlose mini Homepages für Umfragen, Videos und vielem mehr auf www.beerpages.de - Beispiel: http://www.beerpages.de/view/1P/Magst%20du%20%C3%84pfel%3F | 18:37 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone know what the highest number a process id can be? | 18:44 |
| dogmatic69 | 9999 or bigger? | 18:44 |
| Azelphur | dogmatic69: probably 65535 | 18:45 |
| Azelphur | highest I have right now is 32761 | 18:45 |
| dogmatic69 | 2463 is mine | 18:46 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: The contents of /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max | 18:48 |
| dogmatic69 | ok | 18:49 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: I suspect you can turn that up quite large but I don't know | 18:49 |
| dogmatic69 | 32768 | 18:49 |
| dogmatic69 | well im writing it to a db, so just checking the field type | 18:49 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: That's the setting on this machine | 18:50 |
| dogmatic69 | ill just make it med-int then, that is 16777215 | 18:50 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: But hey, if you're running on a BIG machine it'll probably have more | 18:50 |
| dogmatic69 | ye, 16mil should be fine? | 18:50 |
| penguin42 | I doubt it for a big one | 18:51 |
| penguin42 | oh, current limit is apparently 2^22 - so 4Million, so yes it should fix | 18:51 |
| dogmatic69 | its an open source app im building, doubt anyone will be using it on facebook scale :P | 18:51 |
| dogmatic69 | k | 18:52 |
| dogmatic69 | cool, thanks | 18:52 |
| dutchie | dogmatic69: just make it configurable, then no-one will care :) | 18:52 |
| popey | evening all | 18:53 |
| suprengr | o/ | 18:53 |
| moreati | dogmatic69: How many times are you storing a pid? i.e if it's a million and you make the field 64-bit then that's still only 4 MB extra vs 32 bit, and you don't have to worry about upgrading later | 19:03 |
| dogmatic69 | moreati: there is a cron running every ~1min -> 5min | 19:04 |
| dogmatic69 | its to make sure the last one is not running | 19:04 |
| dogmatic69 | *but* also tracking server load to email admins if there is anything funny etc | 19:05 |
| dogmatic69 | so the table should not be truncated to often as it can be used to see trends, eg server load increasing slowly showing signs of needing more/other server etc | 19:06 |
| moreati | dogmatic69: I don't see how any of that affects what I said. Store the PID as 64-bit. The storage cost is negligable, and you won't ever have to worry about upgrading the schema format for that field. | 19:07 |
| moreati | Because 2**64 processes should be enough for anyone | 19:08 |
| dogmatic69 | that is a load of processes | 19:09 |
| jacobw | should be enough for anyone ;) | 19:10 |
| dogmatic69 | even something like google would not get there because there is 2*64 servers doing the work | 19:11 |
| moreati | I'm glad it was recorded for posterity, and I hope I'm still around when it turns out I was wrong | 19:11 |
| dogmatic69 | lol | 19:11 |
| dogmatic69 | did bill gates not say 256kb of ram will be enough | 19:11 |
| dogmatic69 | something like that | 19:12 |
| moreati | he's alledged to have said 640 kB should be enough for anyone | 19:12 |
| dogmatic69 | yes, that is it | 19:12 |
| dogmatic69 | pfsh, till vista came out | 19:12 |
| dogmatic69 | 640 TB maybe | 19:12 |
| exobuzz | plenty of my machines have only 64kb of ram. many less ;-) | 19:12 |
| dogmatic69 | o.o | 19:13 |
| dogmatic69 | a digital watch does not count as a "machine" | 19:13 |
| moreati | exobuzz: washing machines don't run MS-DOS | 19:13 |
| dogmatic69 | ;) | 19:13 |
| exobuzz | these are much more fun than washing machines | 19:14 |
| dogmatic69 | moreati: if they did, we would all be in dirty clothes | 19:14 |
| suprengr | but they may use dom-s-dos | 19:14 |
| MartijnVdS | ... | 19:14 |
| moreati | suprengr: go to your room, that was awful :) | 19:14 |
| suprengr | sorryu ;) | 19:15 |
| exobuzz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFdjWSaDlIo | 19:15 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_d-gs0WoUw | 19:15 |
| exobuzz | also for our humble speccy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1o_Tr8jq3I | 19:16 |
| exobuzz | MartijnVdS, impressive! | 19:17 |
| Phineas | i am back at this late hour | 19:17 |
| zleap | hi | 19:18 |
| * zleap is installing lubuntu | 19:18 | |
| Phineas | lubuntu? | 19:19 |
| jacobw | !lubuntu | 19:19 |
| lubotu3 | lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. | 19:19 |
| jacobw | zleap, its really good :) | 19:20 |
| exobuzz | apart from the name :) | 19:20 |
| zleap | it looks it so far | 19:20 |
| zleap | i just need something simple to run a presentation / picture slideshow at the rugby club | 19:20 |
| Phineas | zleap, powerpoint | 19:21 |
| zleap | ok Limux | 19:21 |
| Phineas | zleap, i mean openoffice prestintation | 19:21 |
| zleap | yah | 19:21 |
| zleap | hence i said presentation why give free advertising to MS | 19:21 |
| jacobw | OO.o Impress | 19:23 |
| jacobw | er.. | 19:23 |
| zleap | yes | 19:23 |
| jacobw | KPresent? | 19:23 |
| zleap | probably kpresent but lubuntu uses xfde | 19:23 |
| zleap | so kpresent is probably a better option lighter | 19:23 |
| zleap | i could however be a bit more adventureous | 19:24 |
| zleap | and use a basic website for people to see what is going on, so its more of a info terminal | 19:24 |
| jacobw | do you mean use a HTML document as a presentation? | 19:25 |
| jpds | !latex | 19:25 |
| lubotu3 | tex is a language for describing a document, commonly used especially for scientific publishing. Information and instructions for installing TeX and other related packages can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX | 19:25 |
| zleap | not sure, i can use latex a little (well lyx) | 19:26 |
| zleap | if I use beamer that produces presentations | 19:26 |
| jpds | LaTeX has a beamer class... you know it. | 19:26 |
| zleap | jacobw, well i can either use a presentation or if using html its ends up more of a mini webpage people can navigate through | 19:27 |
| zleap | jpds, not that well | 19:27 |
| zleap | but i can figure it out i am sure | 19:27 |
| zleap | i guess i can use a simple program like f-spot to run a slideshow of photos | 19:28 |
| MartijnVdS | zleap: eye of gnome can do slideshows | 19:29 |
| zleap | ok | 19:29 |
| MartijnVdS | that's the standard image viewer that opens when you click a photo in the file browser | 19:30 |
| zleap | i will see which is better on low memory | 19:30 |
| MartijnVdS | eog is a VERY tiny program | 19:30 |
| MartijnVdS | compared to f-spot | 19:30 |
| jacobw | yeah | 19:30 |
| jacobw | well, it doesn't need mono for starters | 19:30 |
| MartijnVdS | also, it's just an image viewer and not a database management app :) | 19:30 |
| zleap | i guess i can also create a page of text as a picture so it displays information as part of the slideshow, so photo, photo, document with information e.g events | 19:30 |
| zleap | then more photos | 19:30 |
| zleap | well as long as putting eye of gnome on the system does not also include lots of other gnome stuff, i am ok | 19:31 |
| zleap | got 6gb disk space | 19:31 |
| zleap | out of 20 for system, the rest is /home, (well nearly) got 800 for swap | 19:31 |
| popey | http://www.slideshare.net/GlobalGossip/you-suck-at-powerpoint is good zleap :) | 19:34 |
| Phineas | popey, i think i raced you on mario kart the other day | 19:35 |
| jacobw | I hate watching presentations in the workplace | 19:36 |
| jacobw | Especially the people who write 3 bullet points on each slide with a picture and then proceed to read each of three bullet point out in a monotonous drone | 19:36 |
| Phineas | popey, at least i thought it was you? | 19:36 |
| popey | Phineas: you did not | 19:36 |
| Phineas | popey, must have had the same nick as you then *shrug* | 19:37 |
| fubless | where might i find ubuntu swedish channel ? | 19:37 |
| popey | !se | 19:38 |
| lubotu3 | Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du i #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se | 19:38 |
| fubless | danke | 19:38 |
| zleap | popey, thanks | 19:38 |
| zleap | well if i simply put in a slideshow of images on to a program more suited for displaying images one after the other, it may work better | 19:39 |
| zleap | its not someting people are going to sit through, its simply something to look at, in the room, | 19:40 |
| exobuzz | scala used to be quite good for presentations.. you might need to dig out your old amiga though | 19:41 |
| zleap | hmm i have a zx spectrum | 19:42 |
| zleap | :D | 19:42 |
| zleap | hardly suitable for this | 19:42 |
| exobuzz | you could use that. infact i think that would be excellent and a great talking point | 19:42 |
| zleap | lol | 19:42 |
| zleap | yeah load each image of tape at a very very low resolution, i wonder whjat a spectrum would make of a 640x480 image | 19:43 |
| exobuzz | zx spectrum can do photo realism.. well. good enough anyway. i mean just look at sam fox strip poker.. satisfied many 14 year olds :-) | 19:43 |
| zleap | lol | 19:43 |
| zleap | ah no wonder it got an 18 rating. :D | 19:44 |
| daubers | Evening | 19:44 |
| zleap | exobuzz, good point actually, look at some ascii art and it looks pretty good | 19:45 |
| Phineas | my first video project will hopefully export and play as a dv video and will be a sucsess | 19:45 |
| zleap | i will also fire upa speccy emulator and have a look at the game :D, mind you i suck at poker sometimes | 19:46 |
| exobuzz | zleap, http://artcity.bitfellas.org/gallery/p/pheel/stellar-contour.png is a speccy picture. not though eh :-) | 19:47 |
| zleap | yay cool | 19:47 |
| exobuzz | i meant not bad though. actually is very good. considering the hardware | 19:47 |
| zleap | i remember having a 16 way scrolling message program once, on tape, pretty impressive in machine code | 19:48 |
| exobuzz | aah. the good old days | 19:48 |
| zleap | aka assembler | 19:48 |
| zleap | yes | 19:48 |
| exobuzz | zleap, on speccy or ? | 19:48 |
| zleap | on a speccy it came on one of the your sinclair tapes, | 19:48 |
| exobuzz | zleap, crash, sinclair user or your sinclair reader ? | 19:48 |
| zleap | more of a demo | 19:48 |
| exobuzz | aah. your sinclair | 19:48 |
| zleap | anyone remember the may 88 issue, | 19:49 |
| exobuzz | i got a couple of game hacks published in your sinclair. was a nice feeling | 19:49 |
| Phineas | i had a tape with a game on it the other day, how do i play this game? | 19:49 |
| zleap | i have the whole how to hack series | 19:49 |
| exobuzz | http://malus.exotica.org.uk/~buzz/magazine/speccy/yspp.jpg and http://malus.exotica.org.uk/~buzz/magazine/speccy/yspp2.jpg - im buzz | 19:49 |
| zleap | somewhere | 19:49 |
| exobuzz | Phineas, what game? :) | 19:50 |
| exobuzz | how to hack was great | 19:50 |
| zleap | yay | 19:50 |
| zleap | kids today are missing out on so much having windows, | 19:50 |
| Phineas | exobuzz, forgotten which one but it cam on a tape | 19:50 |
| zleap | so you remember advanced lawnmower simulator | 19:51 |
| exobuzz | Phineas, hmm. that narrows it down to about 5000 games | 19:51 |
| exobuzz | yeh of course! funny stuff | 19:51 |
| zleap | i think some of the editors still work for future publishing | 19:51 |
| exobuzz | zleap, compo winner for crap game compo wasnt it ? | 19:51 |
| zleap | yeah but it was written by one of the team | 19:52 |
| exobuzz | funnily enough. jeff minters lawn mowing game is quite good | 19:52 |
| zleap | but it spawned more clones | 19:52 |
| exobuzz | hover bover | 19:52 |
| zleap | the patio sprintette is working well, and you earn a corned beef sandwich for doing a good job | 19:52 |
| exobuzz | :) | 19:52 |
| * popey used to read comp.sys.sinclair quite a bit back in the day when he had a cix account | 19:52 | |
| * zleap has a speccy clasix 98 cdrom, lots of games | 19:53 | |
| exobuzz | popey, cix.. heh.. the good old expensive online days :) | 19:53 |
| popey | :) | 19:53 |
| exobuzz | popey, do you still read it ? | 19:53 |
| popey | rarely | 19:53 |
| popey | dip in now and then | 19:53 |
| exobuzz | popey, nice to know you are a spec-chum also :) | 19:53 |
| zleap | i made 1 poke oncem it sort of worked for a game called diusty droid and the garbage gobblers, i loaded in the machine code and went through the whole thing and searched for 03 (lives) until one gave me more lives | 19:54 |
| exobuzz | and still new commercial games for the speccy (and free ones) | 19:54 |
| exobuzz | amazing :) | 19:54 |
| exobuzz | its like 2010 going on 1985.. just how i like it | 19:54 |
| zleap | where u get those from, i know people are making em | 19:54 |
| exobuzz | world of spectrum indexes them. and you can search by year etc | 19:55 |
| zleap | ah | 19:55 |
| zleap | cool | 19:55 |
| popey | :) | 19:55 |
| zleap | remember worms the install had a pic of a spectrum tape | 19:55 |
| exobuzz | http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekadv.cgi?what=1®exp=&yrorder=1&year=2010&type=game&players=0&turns=0&memory=0&language=0&country=0&licence=0&feature=0&publi=0&release=0&format=0&scheme=0&scorder=1&score=0&have=1&also=1&sort=1&display=1&loadpics=0 | 19:55 |
| Phineas | exobuzz, ahh it was a game of space invaders (or look alike | 19:55 |
| popey | I captured Rebelstar Raiders for the tzx archive | 19:55 |
| exobuzz | 2010 games | 19:55 |
| zleap | think it was worms, was lemmings released on the spectrum too | 19:55 |
| exobuzz | popey, nice one! julian gollop ? | 19:56 |
| zleap | i have rebelstar 2 i managed to compelete | 19:56 |
| exobuzz | love that stuff | 19:56 |
| zleap | ah julian creator of chaos : battle of wizards i loved that one | 19:56 |
| exobuzz | lemmings was on the speccy | 19:56 |
| zleap | thought so | 19:56 |
| exobuzz | to everyones amazement. wasnt too bad actually | 19:56 |
| exobuzz | chaos rocks | 19:56 |
| zleap | yeah | 19:56 |
| popey | exobuzz: yeah | 19:56 |
| exobuzz | i still play it with a local friend sometimes | 19:56 |
| zleap | that would be cool as a multi player lan game | 19:56 |
| popey | loved his games | 19:56 |
| exobuzz | there is a online version too.. in flash or html5 or something | 19:57 |
| suprengr | proudest boast... I'm running Lemmings on Ubuntu ;) | 19:57 |
| zleap | here goes, restarting lubuntu | 19:57 |
| zleap | cool | 19:57 |
| exobuzz | suprengr, which version. pc under dosbox or ? | 19:57 |
| zleap | i have it on a single floppy disk | 19:57 |
| popey | i played rebelstar 2 player with a mate of mine over email. we'd take a turn then email the 48K snapshot to eachother :) | 19:57 |
| suprengr | dosbox | 19:57 |
| exobuzz | lemmings on the st was great, because for 2 player only one mouse could be used. so player 2 always certainly lost | 19:57 |
| exobuzz | joystick lemmings is well hard | 19:57 |
| zleap | i once managed to nearly load 1 game in to two spectrums at the same time, only 1 crashed | 19:58 |
| exobuzz | popey, now that is SERIOUSLY hardcore. i cant even come close to anything quite as erm.. dedicated as that :D | 19:58 |
| popey | its fun | 19:58 |
| popey | easy to do too | 19:58 |
| popey | most emulators have a "save snapshot" feature | 19:58 |
| Phineas | exobuzz, the game was space invaders (came on a tape) how do i get this to play? | 19:59 |
| exobuzz | yeh.. actually i just reread. i read "by mail" | 19:59 |
| exobuzz | not email. | 19:59 |
| exobuzz | hehe | 19:59 |
| zleap | or you could simply use the ubuntu screen capture thing | 19:59 |
| popey | haha | 19:59 |
| suprengr | zleap:...I once managed to nearly drive 2 cars at he same time... only 1 crashed | 19:59 |
| exobuzz | Phineas, for spectrum ? | 19:59 |
| exobuzz | Phineas, connect ear phones.. load "" (load is on j) | 19:59 |
| exobuzz | on emulator.. choose insert tape and do something similar | 19:59 |
| Phineas | exobuzz, err i don't know what its for but i found it allong with a tape drive | 20:00 |
| exobuzz | http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseek.cgi?regexp=^Horace+in+the+Mystic+Woods$&pub=^Bob+Smith+[1]$ | 20:00 |
| exobuzz | looks like a great game ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/games-maps/h/HoraceInTheMysticWoods.png | 20:01 |
| zleap | where are my menu options on lubuntu, i click the button all i get is logout and run | 20:02 |
| exobuzz | Phineas, hehe. you can listen and tell what it is for maybe :) | 20:02 |
| Phineas | exobuzz, well tape players make a bunch of beeping and booping (data noise) so i think its a pc game | 20:03 |
| popey | unlikely | 20:03 |
| exobuzz | does it start. boooop. bep.. booooo bibibibibibibibibibibibibi | 20:03 |
| exobuzz | or.. | 20:03 |
| exobuzz | booooo. brabrabrabrabrabraba | 20:03 |
| exobuzz | 2st is spectrum .second is bbc or maybe c64. | 20:04 |
| exobuzz | :) | 20:04 |
| exobuzz | 1st | 20:04 |
| popey | lol | 20:04 |
| Phineas | exobuzz, thats what i get when i play it through a ordenery audeo tpe player | 20:04 |
| exobuzz | which one? :) | 20:05 |
| exobuzz | sample it and upload it somewhere | 20:05 |
| exobuzz | popey, did you see this "realtime" tape loading demo for the speccy ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ01EDhL0VM | 20:08 |
| Phineas | exobuzz, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkSb9upLpXM | 20:08 |
| exobuzz | Phineas, yeh some real turbo loading there. | 20:08 |
| Neil3 | ah i remember doing that on a c64 | 20:09 |
| Phineas | exobuzz, thats all i get (wern't playing through the computer just through the mp3 on loudspeaker | 20:09 |
| Neil3 | half the time the games wouldn't work as well but you had to wait forever to find out | 20:10 |
| exobuzz | Neil3, could the c64 dma from the tape ? | 20:10 |
| Neil3 | direct memory access? | 20:10 |
| exobuzz | Neil3, or did you have to do it by interrupt type stuff | 20:10 |
| exobuzz | yeh | 20:10 |
| Neil3 | no idea i was about 8 | 20:10 |
| exobuzz | because i rememebr the c64 had invadaload. which was way cool | 20:10 |
| Neil3 | just had loads of games all on tape | 20:10 |
| Neil3 | friends would come round and we'd choose a game and have to wait ages for it to load | 20:11 |
| exobuzz | and better than the game you loaded sometimes. and i always wondered how it had the free cpu time. need to read up on that | 20:11 |
| exobuzz | yeh heh | 20:11 |
| MartijnVdS | sigh.. Natty has The Old Problem again | 20:11 |
| MartijnVdS | indicator-applet (and now nm-applet too) eating 2G each | 20:12 |
| exobuzz | loading a 128k speccy game was a joke. might as well out for a half hour | 20:12 |
| Neil3 | all i know about the c64 is that the SID chip is a great analogue synth | 20:12 |
| MartijnVdS | which kind of explains the slowness I've been seeing all day | 20:12 |
| exobuzz | yeh. tis nice | 20:12 |
| ali1234 | SID isn't analogue, it uses phase accumulators, which is digital | 20:14 |
| popey | exobuzz: thats great! | 20:16 |
| Neil3 | the oscilators aren't analogue | 20:17 |
| Neil3 | ? | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | no | 20:17 |
| popey | exobuzz: Glider Rider and Star Glider are my two fave speccy games | 20:17 |
| Neil3 | i stand corrected | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | there is a built in DAC in the SID | 20:17 |
| popey | exobuzz: we should have a retro session at the next ubuntu party :) | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | that's the only analogue part | 20:17 |
| exobuzz | The SID is a mixed-signal integrated circuit, featuring both digital and analog circuitry | 20:18 |
| exobuzz | aah ok. | 20:18 |
| popey | exobuzz: am watching that video on my laptop in the lounge, wifey just looked over at me (cant see screen).. "is that a spectrum loading?" :) | 20:18 |
| exobuzz | the filter is analogue according to wikipedia | 20:18 |
| exobuzz | popey, haha. quality :) | 20:18 |
| * zleap is almost guity of starting a totally unrelated thread on a ubuntu channel | 20:18 | |
| popey | there's enough people over 30 year who used to have old 8 bit micros to sustain such a conversation zleap :) | 20:19 |
| zleap | i know | 20:19 |
| zleap | its a good off topic topic though | 20:19 |
| exobuzz | popey, retro stuff is always fun. there was a HUGE event recently. never knew it was that big. in erm.. blackopool. r3play. i missed it unfortunately | 20:20 |
| popey | i used to spend ages sorting through my emulator stuff | 20:20 |
| zleap | I work in a school, play ground arguments i have seen are about girlfriend, back in our day it was c64 vs speccy that caused real arguments | 20:21 |
| exobuzz | <- has a commodore 64 tattoo.. the gf was not very impressed when i did that | 20:21 |
| zleap | hehe | 20:21 |
| popey | lol | 20:21 |
| zleap | was she a speccy fan then | 20:21 |
| popey | haha | 20:21 |
| exobuzz | hahah | 20:21 |
| exobuzz | actaully its just a C= symbol. so not technically c64. but anyway | 20:22 |
| moreati | Did any of you ever have a Spectrum +3? | 20:22 |
| zleap | i know someone with a tux tattoo | 20:22 |
| zleap | i had a +d drive | 20:23 |
| exobuzz | +d .. they are great | 20:23 |
| zleap | yeah | 20:23 |
| zleap | load a game in a few seconds and save at any point | 20:24 |
| zleap | snapshot and 5 or whatever it was | 20:24 |
| mgdm | C64 \o/ | 20:24 |
| zleap | speccy eqiv of a core dump on linux i guess, (dump memory to a file) | 20:24 |
| exobuzz | i have a +3.. with the crappy 3 inch disk format . | 20:24 |
| moreati | +d, any relation to the +3 disk drive or the micro drive? | 20:25 |
| exobuzz | i have a c64 and spectrum side by side.. both lovely in different ways. also an atari 800xl because they are great too | 20:25 |
| exobuzz | and a vectrex of course. because vector games are just.. yum | 20:25 |
| exobuzz | +D was from mgt then datel. (called disciple first when mgt made it), was a printer and 3.5" disk drive interface for speccy | 20:26 |
| exobuzz | with built in freezer | 20:26 |
| moreati | exobuzz: did you ever manage to buy software on a 3" disk? I thnk I only ever found one game for sale on disk, everything else was on tape | 20:26 |
| zleap | there were some games on +3 disk | 20:27 |
| exobuzz | moreati, at the time i didnt have a +3. i picked one up much later. but i dont think i have any originals for it. maybe 1 ... | 20:27 |
| zleap | only they used 3" disks | 20:27 |
| zleap | magaznes did reviews for +3 games so there must have been games on it | 20:27 |
| exobuzz | is it just me, or do others think the atari 800xl just looks so stylish! (for the time) http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Atari_800XL_Plain_White.jpg/250px-Atari_800XL_Plain_White.jpg | 20:28 |
| moreati | zleap: I ended up buying a cassette deck and effectively using it as a Spectrum +1. Or was it +2? | 20:28 |
| zleap | +2 | 20:29 |
| zleap | 128 k | 20:29 |
| zleap | just think we managed on that back then | 20:29 |
| zleap | i hacked tasword 2 to save to floppy on the +D | 20:29 |
| dogmatic69 | exobuzz: that is some serious square brackets [ ] | 20:29 |
| exobuzz | dogmatic69, computer has very strong arrays that need the extra re-inforcement | 20:30 |
| dogmatic69 | lol | 20:30 |
| zleap | ohh 2.6.35.22 kernel | 20:31 |
| zleap | i guess that is what is also on ubuntu 10.10 | 20:31 |
| moreati | I made the same mistake replacing it, got an Amiga 500+ which run most 500 games, but not one or two verypopular classics | 20:32 |
| Flashtek | greetings | 20:32 |
| zleap | greetings | 20:33 |
| zleap | ok right now its configuring linux image | 20:34 |
| Neil3 | got an a500 in the parent's loft, moreati | 20:36 |
| Neil3 | i need to ask my dad to dig it out next time he comes over | 20:36 |
| exobuzz | moreati, almost all games should work on an a500+. with some patch or fix.. | 20:39 |
| Azelphur | A500+ :D | 20:39 |
| MartijnVdS | I love how a generation of people have said "I have an amiga" without knowing what it means (in Spanish) :) | 20:39 |
| Azelphur | I grew up on that shizzle | 20:40 |
| moreati | exobuzz: I don't have it any more | 20:40 |
| exobuzz | <3 amiga | 20:40 |
| exobuzz | aah | 20:40 |
| Azelphur | indeed, postman pat and thomas the tank engine racing. BEST GAMES EVAR. | 20:40 |
| zleap | lol | 20:41 |
| zleap | i have 4 nations rugby, can beat any team simply by zig zagging across the pitch, computer can't deal with that | 20:41 |
| Azelphur | haha | 20:41 |
| Azelphur | zleap: reminds me of that football game I used to play on my sega saturn, you could just run up to the goaly and shoot the ball as he took a dive, 100% you'd get a goal every time :D | 20:42 |
| moreati | Amiga -> 286 -> 486 -> Pentium -> P3 -> Athlon -> Athlon + Centrino -> (Core 2 Duo)*3 | 20:42 |
| zleap | the game stalled once with a mass of players in 1 corner, i guess in real rugby that would be one heckof a punch up | 20:42 |
| Azelphur | one game I scored like 250 goals in one match \o/ | 20:42 |
| zleap | cool | 20:42 |
| Azelphur | lol | 20:42 |
| zleap | i remmber playing fifa 98 vs germany, german player (computer ) lobbed the goalie, shot, hit the post and the ball shot across face of goal | 20:43 |
| zleap | kinda funny really to see computers miss an open goal | 20:43 |
| zleap | i liked empire soccer on hte pc, nice cartoon graphics and fun, ref got run over when players ran out | 20:44 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 20:44 |
| zleap | or you could run past the ref he would spin round and fall over | 20:44 |
| zleap | lol | 20:44 |
| suprengr | hmmm much like Bil Gates then... | 20:44 |
| Azelphur | my favorite glitch of all time has to be the one in world of warcraft where you could drop below the terrain though | 20:44 |
| ali1234 | sensible soccer? where you could score from the half way line... every time | 20:45 |
| Azelphur | I had a buddy on the horde (enemy faction) and I'd bring him to the alliance town, drop below the map, walk to a certain position and jump back up, we'd be behind a gate that nobody else could get past without dropping through the floor :D | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | eventually both players would learn the trick and every game would be like 100 - 100 | 20:45 |
| Azelphur | so then I'd shout horde at x,y on global, everyone would come running and be confused as to how to kill the horde behind the gate :D | 20:45 |
| Azelphur | hilarious. | 20:45 |
| zleap | lol | 20:46 |
| zleap | on daly thompson on the speccy i read if you waited till the time was 9.99.98 then ran you could do a 100 m in 2 seconds or something | 20:47 |
| zleap | or very fast, and get gold | 20:47 |
| zleap | as clock would simply restart when running | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | possible, but also sounds like one of those "fool's errand" cheats | 20:48 |
| Neil3 | heh sensible soccer | 20:48 |
| zleap | yeah | 20:48 |
| zleap | but a cheat all the same | 20:48 |
| Neil3 | i had a demo disk of that which has a WW2 version, kicking around a bomb, 1966 version in black/white... | 20:48 |
| zleap | anyone have an interface one | 20:49 |
| zleap | which allowed spectrums to be networked | 20:49 |
| moreati | old clips of Games Master on Youtube a great for laugh, especially for how seriously they all took it | 20:49 |
| Flashtek | RTL8188CUS anyone ? | 20:49 |
| zleap | realtek device right finelytuned | 20:50 |
| zleap | realtek device right Flashtek | 20:50 |
| Neil3 | Patrick Moore FTW :) | 20:51 |
| Flashtek | zleap: inded.. | 20:51 |
| Flashtek | I have one of those RTL devices, and I was wondering if anyone had managed to get it working.. | 20:55 |
| zleap | ah wireless lan thingy | 20:56 |
| Flashtek | ya | 20:56 |
| zleap | found you a link to driver see private message | 20:57 |
| Flashtek | I have been trying all day, can't make it play | 20:58 |
| zleap | hmm | 20:58 |
| zleap | looks like it is supported as there is software for it | 20:58 |
| Flashtek | 'looks like' and 'actually' are different.. | 21:04 |
| zleap | hi tombrough | 21:09 |
| suprengr | I know it probably breaks all code of conduct rules to be laughing at this but... you must have a look at the mistramslation in http://gnomefiles.org/content/show.php/OSS+volume+control+in+system+tray?content=135928 | 21:18 |
| Flashtek | wtf ? | 21:22 |
| ali1234 | translation: latest ubuntu doesn't support OSS, installing OSS4 on latest ubuntu makes the tray volume control not work | 21:23 |
| === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller | ||
| ali1234 | this is not surprising considering the tray volume control doesn't even support alsa any more | 21:24 |
| suprengr | ali1234: yep, i pretty much got that from it buti preferred the original text myself... | 21:25 |
| suprengr | ;) | 21:26 |
| Flashtek | biab.. | 21:30 |
| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller | ||
| brobostigon | nos da, sleep well all. | 21:57 |
| Flashtek | 8192cu just seems to not want to play.. | 22:01 |
| zleap | hmm | 22:01 |
| jacobw | damn it, the OU have changed all their computing degrees for the worse | 22:04 |
| zleap | ah | 22:05 |
| zleap | in what way | 22:05 |
| jacobw | they've abolished all the computing and something else degrees in to a general computing and information technology degree | 22:07 |
| maco | does OU = Oxford? | 22:07 |
| maco | (sorry, im foreign) | 22:07 |
| popey | Open University | 22:07 |
| jacobw | ha, oxford :) if only :p | 22:09 |
| dutchie | although OU does = oxford in sporting events (eg OUBC etc) | 22:09 |
| jacobw | ah, i didn't know that before | 22:10 |
| maco | jacobw: the list of british unis i know is like this: oxford, cambridge, stirling, edinburgh.... the end | 22:10 |
| bigcalm | The OU is one without a city | 22:10 |
| jacobw | well, i'd never heard of stirling before :p | 22:10 |
| dutchie | most decent sized cities have a university | 22:10 |
| jacobw | the open university is a distance learning establishment | 22:10 |
| maco | jacobw: i only know of stirling because a friend went there | 22:11 |
| zleap | i think stirling is in scotland | 22:11 |
| maco | yes | 22:11 |
| popey | Stirling Engines! | 22:12 |
| jacobw | the only stirling i've ever heard of is david stirling | 22:12 |
| jacobw | i didn't know he was scottish though :s | 22:12 |
| popey | you can buy stirling engines, they rock | 22:13 |
| jacobw | how is oxford going btw dutchie ? | 22:14 |
| dutchie | just made it back alive | 22:15 |
| jacobw | ah, end of term? | 22:15 |
| * jacobw isn't clued up on the calenday | 22:16 | |
| dutchie | yes, finished yesterday | 22:16 |
| jacobw | cool :) lol, calenday, i'm not too clued up on spelling either :p | 22:17 |
| zleap | yay Moschops that was that dinosoar from kids tv back in the 80's | 22:18 |
| shauno | completely off-topic, but I'm finding it interesting that I'm having more difficulty getting XP to drive a second monitor than I ever did under X | 23:10 |
| shauno | in the most bizarre ways. if I ask for 1024x768, the monitor's getting 1280x1024, with 1024x768 floating in the middle | 23:12 |
| sprite | that is funny | 23:42 |
| sprite | ooi, shauno, how old is the crt? | 23:43 |
| sprite | shauno, the reason I ask is because that kind of behaviour was exactly what happened in days of old before the crts were about to blow. alternatively; dodgy driver? | 23:45 |
| shauno | sprite: old enough :) it's a beige dell crt | 23:48 |
| shauno | works fine under osx, ubuntu, and my amiga. but I can't for the life of me get XP to give it the right resolution | 23:49 |
| dutchie | right, any volunteers for dodgy boot diagnosis? | 23:54 |
| dutchie | i have a live usb mounting and fscking the partitions fine, but it panics when it can't mount the root fs | 23:55 |
| dutchie | it's not worked since I adjusted partition sizes | 23:55 |
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