| virtu | Hi.. need some help | 01:39 |
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| FunkyStickman | you still here, virtu? | 02:50 |
| virtu | yes FunkyStickman | 02:50 |
| FunkyStickman | what do you need help with? | 02:50 |
| virtu | sync an audio file to a video file | 02:50 |
| FunkyStickman | playing it back with something like Mplayer? | 02:50 |
| virtu | yes... I have 2 files: a video with no sound that I recorded when I was playing the piano | 02:51 |
| virtu | and the audio from piano | 02:51 |
| virtu | now I want to sync the audio with the video | 02:51 |
| FunkyStickman | ah, I see. Do you just want to play them back synced, or combine them? | 02:51 |
| virtu | combine them | 02:52 |
| virtu | because the video starts earlier then the sound | 02:52 |
| virtu | so I have to check the exact moment to start the audio | 02:52 |
| FunkyStickman | you could use a program like Kino to combine them and put them together, Kino lets you overdub a separate audio track, and has a value you can offset it by | 02:53 |
| virtu | hmm | 02:53 |
| virtu | perfect | 02:54 |
| virtu | I already have it | 02:54 |
| virtu | let's try... tks FunkyStickman | 02:54 |
| FunkyStickman | Kino has a lot of other neat features too, like making titles. It's a linear editor, though, so works best when making simple videos or credits | 02:54 |
| FunkyStickman | I use it mostly for making title credits, but use it however you see fit | 02:54 |
| virtu | =) | 02:55 |
| virtu | this is my first video record and also my first video editing | 02:55 |
| virtu | so... I recored using my cell phone... video is a crap, but the audio is good enough | 02:55 |
| virtu | hmm kino imported the video with wrong settings I think... the video is in fast mode | 02:57 |
| FunkyStickman | interesting... | 02:57 |
| FunkyStickman | what format is it? Mpeg? | 02:57 |
| virtu | .avi | 02:57 |
| virtu | 3mb file | 02:58 |
| FunkyStickman | does it play back correctly in mplayer? | 02:59 |
| virtu | in totem, yes | 03:00 |
| FunkyStickman | ugh. | 03:00 |
| virtu | also in vlc | 03:00 |
| FunkyStickman | how much faster is it? | 03:00 |
| FunkyStickman | 2x? | 03:00 |
| FunkyStickman | 1.5? | 03:00 |
| virtu | very fast | 03:00 |
| virtu | maybe 5x | 03:01 |
| virtu | kino imports to .dv format | 03:01 |
| FunkyStickman | correct, it is supposed to auto resample it, check the project's default settings | 03:01 |
| FunkyStickman | click "edit -> preferences" and make sure it's set to the same general format, if it's 4:3 or whatever | 03:02 |
| virtu | right now i am doing that | 03:02 |
| virtu | let's see | 03:02 |
| FunkyStickman | if the project is set to 4:3 and NTSC it will try to reformat everything to fit that | 03:02 |
| FunkyStickman | just a stab in the dark | 03:02 |
| virtu | ok... | 03:03 |
| FunkyStickman | but I'm thinking it's miscalculating the audio/video bitrate | 03:04 |
| virtu | NTSC, 44,1khz and 4:3 | 03:06 |
| virtu | let's try this seetings | 03:06 |
| virtu | still fast | 03:07 |
| FunkyStickman | hmmm | 03:11 |
| virtu | with avidemux is there away to sync them up? | 03:12 |
| FunkyStickman | might try using mencoder to resample it... but the mencoder manual is like 200 pages | 03:12 |
| FunkyStickman | mencoder could do it | 03:12 |
| virtu | yeah.. mencoder is not so user friendly =( | 03:12 |
| FunkyStickman | not even remotely | 03:12 |
| FunkyStickman | but it is the most powerful resampling tool there is | 03:12 |
| virtu | with avidemux I can open the video, but I cant sync the audio =/ | 03:17 |
| virtu | FunkyStickman, I am back to kino again... and now it seems to be 2 or 3x fast | 03:25 |
| virtu | I change some seetings into display tab | 03:25 |
| virtu | so I almost done with it | 03:25 |
| virtu | =) | 03:25 |
| virtu | ok got it right | 03:28 |
| virtu | change some settings into display and sound tab | 03:29 |
| FunkyStickman | fantastic | 03:57 |
| FunkyStickman | Kino takes about 10 minutes to figure out, but once you've got it, it's pretty simple | 03:57 |
| virtu | how can I add a mp3 file into it? | 03:58 |
| virtu | I try some options and didnt work | 03:58 |
| virtu | so I am back to zero... =( | 03:59 |
| virtu | to import the video I had to uncheck the sound module on Kino =/ | 03:59 |
| virtu | problem with pulseaudio | 03:59 |
| FunkyStickman | grrrr. I hate pulseaudio | 04:00 |
| FunkyStickman | so does everyone else, apparently | 04:00 |
| FunkyStickman | cause they haven't fixed it yet | 04:01 |
| virtu | aham | 04:01 |
| virtu | wait a second... will record all video and sound again | 04:01 |
| virtu | I always made a mistake when recording =/ | 04:04 |
| FunkyStickman | hmmm | 04:07 |
| virtu | ok... everything recored again (better now) | 04:12 |
| keantoken | Hello, is anyone there? | 04:15 |
| keantoken | Ubuntustudio is hanging on me after trying to install audacious 2.4... | 04:16 |
| keantoken | Won't start up, just displays the splash screen forever. | 04:16 |
| keantoken | I have a screenshot: http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa290/keantoken/DCP00894.jpg | 04:16 |
| keantoken | I used the code on this page: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/install-audacious2-24-beta-1-in-ubuntu.html | 04:20 |
| holstein | keantoken: hey | 04:20 |
| holstein | i'll be a minute... | 04:20 |
| holstein | if you can ahng | 04:21 |
| holstein | hang* | 04:21 |
| keantoken | It's aliiiiiiive! I'll be here while I can. | 04:21 |
| holstein | keantoken: does an ubuntu live CD run? | 04:27 |
| keantoken | I've lost mine, otherwise I would have tried. | 04:28 |
| holstein | i think that would be a good troubleshooting step | 04:28 |
| keantoken | Maybe I could burn one quickly. | 04:28 |
| holstein | i think its a graphics card issue | 04:28 |
| holstein | card driver issue * | 04:29 |
| keantoken | I've never had a graphics issue, except after kernel updates which were easily fixed. | 04:29 |
| holstein | keantoken: with ubuntu? | 04:29 |
| keantoken | ubuntustudio | 04:30 |
| holstein | keantoken: SO, this is an install that used to work? | 04:30 |
| holstein | is it 10.10 ? | 04:31 |
| keantoken | 10.04 | 04:31 |
| holstein | 23:16 < keantoken> Ubuntustudio is hanging on me after trying to install audacious 2.4... | 04:31 |
| keantoken | I've been using it for several months. | 04:31 |
| holstein | what doest that mean? | 04:31 |
| virtu | <enter> | 04:32 |
| holstein | keantoken: OK | 04:32 |
| holstein | i see | 04:32 |
| holstein | you added the audacious testing PPA | 04:32 |
| holstein | keantoken: did you install it? | 04:33 |
| holstein | i cant imagine what in that PPA would break X | 04:33 |
| keantoken | I installed using the code at the bottom of the linked page. Then I saw the link below it to the newer stable versions. | 04:34 |
| holstein | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/unstable | 04:34 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 04:34 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install audacious audacious-plugins | 04:34 |
| holstein | ^ that | 04:34 |
| holstein | you did that right? | 04:34 |
| keantoken | yes | 04:35 |
| holstein | did you get any errors? | 04:35 |
| keantoken | I saw many warnings, but no errors. | 04:35 |
| keantoken | But afterwards Synaptic would not open when I wanted to add the PPA audacious repositories. | 04:36 |
| keantoken | So I rebooted to see if that would fix things and this happened. | 04:37 |
| holstein | apt-add adds the repos | 04:37 |
| holstein | keantoken: i would look at | 04:37 |
| holstein | http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html | 04:38 |
| holstein | ^^ hehe, at the same website even :) | 04:38 |
| holstein | keantoken: assumming you can get to the command line | 04:38 |
| holstein | recovery terminal or whatever its called | 04:38 |
| keantoken | I can get to the command line via Grub and recovery mode kernel | 04:39 |
| holstein | keantoken: COOL | 04:41 |
| holstein | try ppa purge | 04:41 |
| holstein | maybe | 04:41 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 04:41 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get upgrade | 04:41 |
| holstein | after that | 04:41 |
| holstein | IF it does not 'give up the funk' | 04:41 |
| keantoken | I just wrote down the commands, and will get back | 04:43 |
| holstein | keantoken: good luck | 04:44 |
| keantoken | It says "ppa: command not found" | 04:46 |
| virtu | still with problems to sync =( | 04:47 |
| holstein | keantoken: with the ppa purge? | 04:49 |
| keantoken | yes. | 04:49 |
| keantoken | I'm logged in as root. Should I login as my normal user? | 04:49 |
| holstein | should be | 04:50 |
| holstein | sudo ppa-purge ppa:webupd8team/unstable | 04:50 |
| holstein | keantoken: you'll need root | 04:51 |
| holstein | or sudo | 04:51 |
| holstein | might need to install ppapurge | 04:51 |
| holstein | i havent used it other than inside ubuntutweak | 04:51 |
| holstein | it=ppa-purge | 04:51 |
| keantoken | Also also keep seeing the error "sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error (1)" | 04:53 |
| keantoken | I tried ppa purg and ppa-purge | 04:53 |
| holstein | keantoken: try | 04:53 |
| keantoken | do I use "sudo apt-get install ppapurge"? | 04:54 |
| holstein | keantoken: yeah | 04:54 |
| holstein | try it | 04:54 |
| holstein | also | 04:54 |
| holstein | you can try | 04:54 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get -f install | 04:54 |
| holstein | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/sub-process-usr-bin-dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1-a-171107/ | 04:54 |
| holstein | also, about the PPA purge http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/ | 04:54 |
| virtu | it sucks to try add audio and video to a new file =/ | 04:56 |
| keantoken | It says "can't find package ppapurge" | 04:57 |
| holstein | right | 04:58 |
| holstein | you'll probably need to install it | 04:58 |
| holstein | thats probably | 04:58 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install ppa-purge | 04:58 |
| holstein | or ppapurge | 04:58 |
| holstein | which ever it is | 04:58 |
| keantoken | I tried that too. | 04:58 |
| holstein | i think its ppa-purge | 04:58 |
| holstein | keantoken: tried what? | 04:59 |
| keantoken | I tried both ppapurge and ppa-purge | 05:00 |
| holstein | installing them? | 05:00 |
| * holstein looking | 05:00 | |
| holstein | yeah | 05:01 |
| holstein | ppa-purge | 05:01 |
| holstein | ppa-purge - disables a PPA and reverts to official packages | 05:01 |
| holstein | so you'll need to install it | 05:01 |
| holstein | with | 05:01 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install ppa-purge | 05:01 |
| holstein | if apt is complaining | 05:01 |
| holstein | try running that fix | 05:01 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get -f install | 05:01 |
| holstein | almost seems like the computer shutdown in the middle of installing packages | 05:02 |
| keantoken | I've tried all this and nothing works | 05:03 |
| holstein | you've tried both of those | 05:03 |
| keantoken | yes | 05:03 |
| holstein | and these are not working yet | 05:03 |
| holstein | any more errors from apt? | 05:04 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541998 | 05:06 |
| holstein | suggests http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541998 | 05:06 |
| holstein | opps | 05:06 |
| holstein | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 05:06 |
| holstein | 05:06 | |
| holstein | keantoken: good news is | 05:09 |
| holstein | you can look more places for help | 05:09 |
| holstein | this would not be studio specific | 05:09 |
| holstein | if you drop that error in a more active channel | 05:09 |
| holstein | you might get better suggestions :) | 05:09 |
| keantoken | I see "gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: gconftool2: undefined symbol: g_option_content_new | 05:11 |
| holstein | where? | 05:11 |
| holstein | that could be an update that got borked | 05:12 |
| keantoken | running that last command | 05:13 |
| keantoken | I get many lines saying libglib2.0 has not been configured yet. | 05:13 |
| holstein | i would expect to see this if an update or upgrade was going on | 05:13 |
| holstein | and the power was cut to the machine | 05:14 |
| holstein | anyways | 05:14 |
| holstein | your going to need to figure out what happened to you packages | 05:14 |
| holstein | and how to straigten it out | 05:14 |
| holstein | keantoken: does apt work now? | 05:14 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 05:14 |
| keantoken | Before I founde the audacious repository I was trying to install the audacious dependencies and I'll bet I screwed up installing the esoteric libglib | 05:15 |
| keantoken | along with the esoteric libglib+2.5 | 05:15 |
| keantoken | which was worth a good rant... | 05:15 |
| keantoken | Actually that's gtk+2.5, not libglib... | 05:16 |
| holstein | keantoken: still should be able to straigten in out though | 05:16 |
| holstein | it* | 05:16 |
| holstein | im the kind of guy that would probably fuss with it for a day or so | 05:17 |
| holstein | then reinstall ;) | 05:17 |
| keantoken | How much of my system will remain as it was if I reinstall? | 05:22 |
| holstein | depends | 05:24 |
| holstein | you mean your entire system? | 05:24 |
| holstein | if your dual booting something else | 05:24 |
| holstein | the other OS should be fine | 05:25 |
| holstein | IF you have a separate home partition | 05:25 |
| holstein | and dont format it | 05:25 |
| holstein | you would have most config files and personal files in place | 05:25 |
| holstein | you can backup your home directory though | 05:26 |
| holstein | i think ubuntu one does that :) | 05:26 |
| keantoken | What if I ran ./configure from the libglib folder? | 05:27 |
| * holstein shrugs | 05:27 | |
| holstein | i would try googling each error you get from a package manager | 05:27 |
| holstein | and try fixing you packages | 05:27 |
| keantoken | Thanks for your help. How can I copy my home directory to a safe place? | 05:31 |
| keantoken | Upgrading to 10.10 sounds appealing anyways. | 05:32 |
| holstein | yeah | 05:32 |
| holstein | might as well | 05:32 |
| holstein | im staying with 10.04 | 05:32 |
| holstein | keantoken: i would probaly just use a USB stick | 05:32 |
| virtu | almosto done | 05:32 |
| holstein | you can use a live CD to copy it over if needed | 05:33 |
| keantoken | How do I put it in the new install without causing strange things to happen? | 05:37 |
| holstein | carefully ;) | 05:38 |
| holstein | permissions is really the only issue you should have | 05:38 |
| holstein | keantoken: just grab the stuff you need | 05:38 |
| holstein | maybe .mozilla | 05:38 |
| holstein | just move that into your home | 05:38 |
| holstein | before you open FF | 05:39 |
| holstein | OR overwrite whatever .mozilla is already there | 05:39 |
| holstein | same for the others in theory | 05:39 |
| keantoken | Alright, I will try that. | 05:41 |
| holstein | keantoken: you should try asking around though | 05:41 |
| holstein | maybe in your local ubuntu channel | 05:41 |
| holstein | IF you feel like troubleshooting a bit more | 05:41 |
| keantoken | Nah, I think I feel like dealing with upgrade caveats. Though I wish upgrades really meant smoother running linux... | 05:46 |
| keantoken | Thanks again. Bye. | 05:54 |
| virtu | finally | 06:32 |
| virtu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqzjYf1lmQY | 06:32 |
| virtu | sync in windows =( | 06:32 |
| holstein | virtu: nice | 06:33 |
| holstein | is that your tune? | 06:33 |
| virtu | yes | 06:34 |
| virtu | recorded the video with a smartphone | 06:34 |
| virtu | and the audio with built in recorder | 06:34 |
| virtu | time to go... | 06:51 |
| virtu | c ya | 06:51 |
| virtu | tks | 06:52 |
| floogy | Hi, I'm running lucid on amd64, alsa-base and source 1.0.22.1+dfsg-0ubuntu3 and linux-backports-modules-alsa-2.6.32-26-generic 2.6.32-26.25 | 12:10 |
| floogy | I got no sound at all, but the levelmeter for pulseaudio shows a moving graph if I paplay a wav file | 12:12 |
| floogy | But, When booting into windows I will have sound in winxp | 12:13 |
| floogy | $ uname -a | 12:13 |
| floogy | Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-26-preempt #48-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Nov 24 10:43:13 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 12:13 |
| floogy | pulseaudio -vv gives this: | 12:15 |
| floogy | D: module-rtp-recv.c: wi=1862304822 ri=1794430839 | 12:15 |
| floogy | D: module-rtp-recv.c: Write index deviates by 67873,98 ms, expected 500,00 ms | 12:15 |
| floogy | D: module-rtp-recv.c: Hmmm, rate fix is too large (594238 Hz), not applying. | 12:15 |
| floogy | D: module-rtp-recv.c: Updated sampling rate to 44100 Hz. | 12:15 |
| floogy | D: module-rtp-recv.c: Updating sample rate | 12:15 |
| floogy | What happened to the alsa driver? | 12:17 |
| floogy | http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=866e92f95489a8aea93f45916fa35b85b05b366b | 12:19 |
| floogy | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/300801/ | 12:22 |
| floogy | I guess it's an issue with the alsa driver itself. | 12:24 |
| floogy | Does anyone knoe how to debug this? | 12:24 |
| floogy | knoe/know | 12:24 |
| virtu | hi | 14:37 |
| virtu | good morning | 14:37 |
| * holstein waves to virtu | 14:38 | |
| virtu | slept only 4 hours.... spend all night trying to sync the audio on that video that I post at youtube | 14:40 |
| holstein | can be challenging | 14:40 |
| holstein | i thought it looked fine | 14:41 |
| holstein | in sync | 14:41 |
| holstein | i remember using virtualdub in windows | 14:41 |
| holstein | because i was having sync issues with some project | 14:41 |
| virtu | Yeah... I use Windows Movie Maker and it was very easy | 14:42 |
| holstein | it was one of my first experiences with open source software | 14:42 |
| holstein | worked great | 14:42 |
| holstein | at the time, movie maker was way off | 14:42 |
| virtu | so... in linux ambient I got a lot of difficulties... =( | 14:42 |
| holstein | well, the vid would start fine | 14:42 |
| holstein | and then the audio trailed off | 14:42 |
| holstein | after 20 minutes or so | 14:42 |
| holstein | til it got WAY off | 14:42 |
| virtu | aham... | 14:43 |
| holstein | like 5+ seconds or so | 14:43 |
| holstein | after an hour | 14:43 |
| holstein | im not familiar with linux ambient | 14:44 |
| holstein | virtu: should have been in sync from the source | 14:44 |
| holstein | the phone | 14:44 |
| virtu | and that matters make me mad... because it seems very simple to sync, but you need a nice software... and WMM has a simple function that allow to delay the sound | 14:44 |
| holstein | if not, i would look there | 14:44 |
| holstein | maybe use something like ustream | 14:44 |
| holstein | with a PC | 14:44 |
| holstein | then, its uploaded | 14:44 |
| holstein | and in sync | 14:45 |
| holstein | and share-able | 14:45 |
| holstein | all in one go | 14:45 |
| virtu | sure, it could be, but I recorded the video in mute because the poor quality of video camera | 14:45 |
| holstein | you should be able to add | 14:46 |
| holstein | and edit the audio | 14:46 |
| holstein | in whatever editor | 14:46 |
| holstein | pitivi or avidmeux | 14:46 |
| virtu | ohh sure... | 14:46 |
| holstein | or whatever you want | 14:46 |
| virtu | but it was very hard to sync them up into pitivi and avidemux | 14:46 |
| holstein | well, the piece is mostly rubato | 14:47 |
| virtu | in pitivi I didnt find an option to adjust when the sound begins in seconds | 14:47 |
| holstein | that would add to the challenge | 14:47 |
| holstein | i think if i had a project like that | 14:48 |
| holstein | i would try and have a click track going | 14:48 |
| holstein | and sync up to it | 14:48 |
| holstein | on both ends | 14:48 |
| holstein | vid and audio | 14:48 |
| holstein | and have some kind of clap on the same beat in the lead in | 14:48 |
| holstein | go to where the clap is in the vid and line that up with the clap on the audio | 14:49 |
| holstein | even if its going to be rubato | 14:50 |
| holstein | and i wanted to record the video and the audio at the same time | 14:50 |
| holstein | just on different devices | 14:50 |
| virtu | sure... | 14:50 |
| holstein | i would still try and clap i think | 14:50 |
| holstein | or something visual and audible | 14:50 |
| holstein | to sync to | 14:50 |
| virtu | visual will be easier | 14:51 |
| holstein | like they used to do in the movies | 14:51 |
| virtu | you see your finger and listen the audio.. when they are matching... you will note that all audio and video must be synced | 14:51 |
| holstein | with that clacker board | 14:51 |
| holstein | virtu: probably just bothers you | 14:52 |
| holstein | what i saw looked fine | 14:52 |
| holstein | i didnt notice any sync issues | 14:53 |
| virtu | yeahh... that was the better that I did that time | 14:53 |
| holstein | you could also do a slide show or something | 14:53 |
| holstein | and play the audio along to that | 14:53 |
| holstein | then the sync wouldnt be that important | 14:53 |
| virtu | check this out: | 14:53 |
| virtu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1xqO5Ycses | 14:54 |
| holstein | yeah, you just need a good reference point | 14:55 |
| holstein | a clap or something short and stacato from the piano | 14:55 |
| holstein | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZDyKlf8bdE | 14:56 |
| holstein | when we did these | 14:56 |
| holstein | the guy had the pianist play a loud short staccato 'bang' | 14:56 |
| holstein | on the piano | 14:56 |
| holstein | that he could see clearly on the video | 14:57 |
| virtu | a challenge to sync that... | 14:58 |
| virtu | but with that signs (visible) it seems to make easier | 14:58 |
| holstein | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RnThpo0Atk | 14:59 |
| holstein | we did it each time | 14:59 |
| holstein | he recorded a concert | 14:59 |
| holstein | not sure how that got synced up | 14:59 |
| holstein | but it did | 14:59 |
| holstein | i like these better though | 15:00 |
| virtu | like the piano melody from the last one | 15:00 |
| virtu | smotth | 15:00 |
| virtu | smooth | 15:01 |
| holstein | thats one of his tunes | 15:01 |
| holstein | keith davis | 15:01 |
| holstein | both of these are his originals | 15:01 |
| virtu | very nice... | 15:02 |
| virtu | holstein: now I´ll go launch time... | 15:03 |
| holstein | have a good one :) | 15:03 |
| virtu | and after have o work a little... tomorrow I´ll go to Sao Paulo | 15:03 |
| holstein | nice | 15:03 |
| virtu | o = to | 15:03 |
| virtu | c ya | 15:03 |
| === virtu is now known as virtu_OFF | ||
| floogy | Hi, I got this if I want to connect to the server: W: socket-server.c: TCP connection refused by tcpwrap. | 15:57 |
| floogy | If i uncomment ALL:ALL in /etc/hosts.deny paplay works. But that's insane | 15:57 |
| floogy | So, what should I put into /etc/hosts.allow ? | 15:57 |
| floogy | According to this http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ#Igetthiserrormessage:Connectionrefused | 15:57 |
| floogy | This should be ok? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/300883/ | 15:57 |
| floogy | But it doesn't work at all. | 15:58 |
| floogy | So, what's wrong? | 15:58 |
| holstein | hey floogy | 16:09 |
| * holstein reading | 16:09 | |
| floogy | hi holstein | 16:09 |
| holstein | i see your in #pulseaudio :) | 16:11 |
| holstein | i will suggest asking in #opensourcemusicians | 16:12 |
| holstein | and maybe i could help come up with an alternative solution to the overall need | 16:12 |
| holstein | but, my favorite pulse audio feature is that when i start JACK, it gets disabled ;) | 16:12 |
| virtu_OFF | pulse audio also is my problem when it is enable =/ | 16:21 |
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| floogy | yes, but I'm rarely using jack, so I combined both setups. This might be not the best setup, but it worked once. | 16:22 |
| holstein | what are you trying to do? | 16:22 |
| holstein | im not suggesting a JACK solution yet | 16:22 |
| floogy | and the tcpwrap issue isn't affected by jackd I guess. | 16:23 |
| floogy | I want to be able to connect to pulseaudio | 16:23 |
| floogy | W: socket-server.c: TCP connection refused by tcpwrap | 16:23 |
| holstein | right | 16:24 |
| holstein | but, what is the overall goal? | 16:24 |
| holstein | a remote audio player? | 16:24 |
| holstein | play networked audio in general? | 16:24 |
| floogy | To get the whole pulse thing to work, as it does once. | 16:24 |
| holstein | floogy: locally? | 16:25 |
| floogy | yes locally | 16:25 |
| holstein | interesting | 16:25 |
| holstein | so pulse is just not working on your box? | 16:25 |
| floogy | yes, but I can't connect to it | 16:25 |
| floogy | So, it's not working | 16:26 |
| holstein | im not sure i understand what you mean by 'connect to it' | 16:26 |
| holstein | in what capacity are you trying to connect to it? | 16:26 |
| holstein | i have a VIA chip | 16:26 |
| holstein | in a mininote | 16:26 |
| holstein | anytime i open the pulse audio prefereces | 16:27 |
| floogy | $ LANG=EN paplay ~/ged_steffie.wav | 16:27 |
| floogy | Connection failure: Connection refused | 16:27 |
| holstein | the device crashes | 16:27 |
| floogy | W: socket-server.c: TCP connection refused by tcpwrap. | 16:27 |
| holstein | i have a shortcut to 'revive' it | 16:27 |
| holstein | but sometimes i have to restart | 16:27 |
| holstein | floogy: how about the test app? | 16:28 |
| floogy | Oh wow, pulseaudio crashed. And now it works, hm. So it may not realised my hosts.allow edited version? | 16:28 |
| holstein | yeah | 16:29 |
| holstein | probably have to restart it | 16:29 |
| holstein | to get it to use that config file | 16:29 |
| holstein | or crash it ;) | 16:29 |
| floogy | I read one have to restart inetd to use the new hosts.allow settings, but I got no inetd process running. So I guess I have to restart pulseaudio itself instead | 16:30 |
| floogy | I'll test if everything is ok now. | 16:31 |
| holstein | i cant imagine why you would need to get that envolved | 16:31 |
| holstein | pulse almost always 'just works' for me | 16:31 |
| holstein | and i never do any recording with it | 16:31 |
| floogy | Hmm, I edited hosts.allow and changed ALL to LOCAL, then restarted pulseaudio and now I get again refused | 16:33 |
| holstein | floogy: so it was working? | 16:33 |
| holstein | and you did what? | 16:33 |
| holstein | why? | 16:33 |
| holstein | i would say, next time you hear something | 16:34 |
| holstein | just stop tweaking ;) | 16:34 |
| floogy | Hm, ok with ALL it works, but not with LOCAL, I can't understand that, and I guess thats not secure at all. | 16:38 |
| holstein | shouldnt be a problem | 16:38 |
| holstein | whats the worst that could happen | 16:39 |
| holstein | you got you firewall down | 16:39 |
| floogy | because it only affects pulseaudio? | 16:39 |
| holstein | and somebody plays sound on your box somehow | 16:39 |
| holstein | a random hacker | 16:39 |
| holstein | thats running linux | 16:39 |
| holstein | and looking for a linux user | 16:39 |
| holstein | to play audio at ;) | 16:39 |
| floogy | Hm,ok pulseaudio is not vulnerable to gain root access? | 16:40 |
| holstein | i guess if there is a pulse user | 16:40 |
| holstein | or group | 16:40 |
| holstein | that has su access | 16:40 |
| holstein | but still | 16:40 |
| holstein | a long shot i say | 16:40 |
| holstein | floogy: maybe you have some strange hardware | 16:41 |
| holstein | and would do better removing pulse | 16:41 |
| holstein | if your worried about it | 16:41 |
| floogy | Hm, but it always (maybe <10.04) worked that way. I found this here: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio | 16:42 |
| floogy | and it worked until a couple of weeks ago. | 16:42 |
| floogy | or month, I don't know. Often I don't use sound at all. | 16:43 |
| holstein | floogy: this is 10.04? | 16:43 |
| floogy | yes | 16:43 |
| holstein | did you update alsa? | 16:43 |
| holstein | i think there is a script somewhere | 16:43 |
| floogy | It's a backported version | 16:43 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810#post6589810 | 16:44 |
| floogy | $ apt-cache policy linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic | 16:46 |
| floogy | linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic: | 16:46 |
| floogy | Installiert: 2.6.32.26.28 | 16:46 |
| floogy | *** 2.6.32.26.28 0 | 16:46 |
| floogy | 500 ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ lucid-updates/main Packages | 16:46 |
| holstein | floogy: hey | 16:47 |
| holstein | did you try an older kernel? | 16:47 |
| holstein | you could boot into an earlier kernel | 16:47 |
| floogy | No, I use this one Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-26-preempt #48-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Nov 24 10:43:13 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 16:47 |
| holstein | right | 16:47 |
| holstein | maybe there is an older one? | 16:48 |
| holstein | or you could install the generic one | 16:48 |
| holstein | and see how it works | 16:48 |
| floogy | But I think thats not related to tcpwrapper behavior of pulseaudio? | 16:48 |
| holstein | i have no idea what that is | 16:49 |
| holstein | its never been an issue for me | 16:49 |
| holstein | these are just some common trouble-shooting steps i go through | 16:49 |
| holstein | trying to reduce variables | 16:49 |
| floogy | holstein, What do you have in /etc/hosts.allow regarding pulseaudio? | 16:49 |
| * holstein looking | 16:50 | |
| holstein | i got nothing in there | 16:51 |
| floogy | holstein, what os are you running? | 16:51 |
| holstein | 10.04 | 16:52 |
| holstein | same with /etc/hosts.deny | 16:52 |
| holstein | just the commented out stuff that come in there | 16:53 |
| holstein | ive never needed to mess with it | 16:53 |
| floogy | holstein, nothing in /etc/hosts.deny ? Does it exist at all?+ | 16:53 |
| holstein | yeah | 16:53 |
| holstein | http://paste.ubuntu.com/540018/ | 16:54 |
| holstein | ^^ thats /etc/hosts.deny | 16:54 |
| floogy | Ok, maybe I discard these files also, because they are for controlling inetd, and thats not running I guess. | 16:54 |
| holstein | floogy: where did you read that you should mess with them? | 16:55 |
| holstein | http://paste.ubuntu.com/540019/ | 16:55 |
| holstein | ^^ /etc/hosts.allow | 16:55 |
| floogy | I wanted once to get mpd working: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio | 16:55 |
| holstein | right | 16:56 |
| floogy | http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ#Igetthiserrormessage:Connectionrefused | 16:56 |
| holstein | for networked audio playback? | 16:56 |
| holstein | what is the goal of that | 16:56 |
| floogy | Yes, but to use it locally, because of it's features and I wanted to use it in a script. | 16:57 |
| holstein | floogy: i would ask in #opensourcemusicians | 16:57 |
| holstein | when you get a minute | 16:57 |
| holstein | with more the overall goal | 16:57 |
| holstein | lots of smart folk over there | 16:57 |
| holstein | problem solvers :) | 16:57 |
| floogy | holsteinm, thank you a lot. I'll try that. ;) | 16:58 |
| holstein | good luck | 16:58 |
| holstein | wish i could be more helpful, ive just never needed to hack pulse that much | 16:58 |
| floogy | I upgraded my computer since hoary, so there is still some old stuff in the configs | 17:02 |
| holstein | i bet | 17:05 |
| holstein | might be due for a fresh install | 17:05 |
| holstein | floogy: i would think you could test what you need to with a live CD | 17:06 |
| floogy | Yes, I already thought on starting a live-cd to compare things | 17:07 |
| floogy | thanks, I'm now afk | 17:09 |
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