[01:39] <virtu> Hi.. need some help
[02:50] <FunkyStickman> you still here, virtu?
[02:50] <virtu> yes FunkyStickman
[02:50] <FunkyStickman> what do you need help with?
[02:50] <virtu> sync an audio file to a video file
[02:50] <FunkyStickman> playing it back with something like Mplayer?
[02:51] <virtu> yes... I have 2 files: a video with no sound that I recorded when I was playing the piano
[02:51] <virtu> and the audio from piano
[02:51] <virtu> now I want to sync the audio with the video
[02:51] <FunkyStickman> ah, I see. Do you just want to play them back synced, or combine them?
[02:52] <virtu> combine them
[02:52] <virtu> because the video starts earlier then the sound
[02:52] <virtu> so I have to check the exact moment to start the audio
[02:53] <FunkyStickman> you could use a program like Kino to combine them and put them together, Kino lets you overdub a separate audio track, and has a value you can offset it by
[02:53] <virtu> hmm
[02:54] <virtu> perfect
[02:54] <virtu> I already have it
[02:54] <virtu> let's try... tks FunkyStickman
[02:54] <FunkyStickman> Kino has a lot of other neat features too, like making titles. It's a linear editor, though, so works best when making simple videos or credits
[02:54] <FunkyStickman> I use it mostly for making title credits, but use it however you see fit
[02:55] <virtu> =)
[02:55] <virtu> this is my first video record and also my first video editing
[02:55] <virtu> so... I recored using my cell phone... video is a crap, but the audio is good enough
[02:57] <virtu> hmm kino imported the video with wrong settings I think... the video is in fast mode
[02:57] <FunkyStickman> interesting...
[02:57] <FunkyStickman> what format is it? Mpeg?
[02:57] <virtu> .avi
[02:58] <virtu> 3mb file
[02:59] <FunkyStickman> does it play back correctly in mplayer?
[03:00] <virtu> in totem, yes
[03:00] <FunkyStickman> ugh.
[03:00] <virtu> also in vlc
[03:00] <FunkyStickman> how much faster is it?
[03:00] <FunkyStickman> 2x?
[03:00] <FunkyStickman> 1.5?
[03:00] <virtu> very fast
[03:01] <virtu> maybe 5x
[03:01] <virtu> kino imports to .dv format
[03:01] <FunkyStickman> correct, it is supposed to auto resample it, check the project's default settings
[03:02] <FunkyStickman> click "edit -> preferences" and make sure it's set to the same general format, if it's 4:3 or whatever
[03:02] <virtu> right now i am doing that
[03:02] <virtu> let's see
[03:02] <FunkyStickman> if the project is set to 4:3 and NTSC it will try to reformat everything to fit that
[03:02] <FunkyStickman> just a stab in the dark
[03:03] <virtu> ok...
[03:04] <FunkyStickman> but I'm thinking it's miscalculating the audio/video bitrate
[03:06] <virtu> NTSC, 44,1khz and 4:3
[03:06] <virtu> let's try this seetings
[03:07] <virtu> still fast
[03:11] <FunkyStickman> hmmm
[03:12] <virtu> with avidemux is there away to sync them up?
[03:12] <FunkyStickman> might try using mencoder to resample it... but the mencoder manual is like 200 pages
[03:12] <FunkyStickman> mencoder could do it
[03:12] <virtu> yeah.. mencoder is not so user friendly =(
[03:12] <FunkyStickman> not even remotely
[03:12] <FunkyStickman> but it is the most powerful resampling tool there is
[03:17] <virtu> with avidemux I can open the video, but I cant sync the audio =/
[03:25] <virtu> FunkyStickman, I am back to kino again... and now it seems to be 2 or 3x fast
[03:25] <virtu> I change some seetings into display tab
[03:25] <virtu> so I almost done with it
[03:25] <virtu> =)
[03:28] <virtu> ok got it right
[03:29] <virtu> change some settings into display and sound tab
[03:57] <FunkyStickman> fantastic
[03:57] <FunkyStickman> Kino takes about 10 minutes to figure out, but once you've got it, it's pretty simple
[03:58] <virtu> how can I add a mp3 file into it?
[03:58] <virtu> I try some options and didnt work
[03:59] <virtu> so I am back to zero... =(
[03:59] <virtu> to import the video I had to uncheck the sound module on Kino =/
[03:59] <virtu> problem with pulseaudio
[04:00] <FunkyStickman> grrrr. I hate pulseaudio
[04:00] <FunkyStickman> so does everyone else, apparently
[04:01] <FunkyStickman> cause they haven't fixed it yet
[04:01] <virtu> aham
[04:01] <virtu> wait a second... will record all video and sound again
[04:04] <virtu> I always made a mistake when recording =/
[04:07] <FunkyStickman> hmmm
[04:12] <virtu> ok... everything recored again (better now)
[04:15] <keantoken> Hello, is anyone there?
[04:16] <keantoken> Ubuntustudio is hanging on me after trying to install audacious 2.4...
[04:16] <keantoken> Won't start up, just displays the splash screen forever.
[04:16] <keantoken> I have a screenshot: http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa290/keantoken/DCP00894.jpg
[04:20] <keantoken> I used the code on this page: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/install-audacious2-24-beta-1-in-ubuntu.html
[04:20] <holstein> keantoken: hey
[04:20] <holstein> i'll be a minute...
[04:21] <holstein> if you can ahng
[04:21] <holstein> hang*
[04:21] <keantoken> It's aliiiiiiive! I'll be here while I can.
[04:27] <holstein> keantoken: does an ubuntu live CD run?
[04:28] <keantoken> I've lost mine, otherwise I would have tried.
[04:28] <holstein> i think that would be a good troubleshooting step
[04:28] <keantoken> Maybe I could burn one quickly.
[04:28] <holstein> i think its a graphics card issue
[04:29] <holstein> card driver issue *
[04:29] <keantoken> I've never had a graphics issue, except after kernel updates which were easily fixed.
[04:29] <holstein> keantoken: with ubuntu?
[04:30] <keantoken> ubuntustudio
[04:30] <holstein> keantoken: SO, this is an install that used to work?
[04:31] <holstein> is it 10.10 ?
[04:31] <keantoken> 10.04
[04:31] <holstein> 23:16 < keantoken> Ubuntustudio is hanging on me after trying to install audacious 2.4...
[04:31] <keantoken> I've been using it for several months.
[04:31] <holstein>  what doest that mean?
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[04:32] <holstein> keantoken: OK
[04:32] <holstein> i see
[04:32] <holstein> you added the audacious testing PPA
[04:33] <holstein> keantoken: did you install it?
[04:33] <holstein> i cant imagine what in that PPA would break X
[04:34] <keantoken> I installed using the code at the bottom of the linked page. Then I saw the link below it to the newer stable versions.
[04:34] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/unstable
[04:34] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[04:34] <holstein> sudo apt-get install audacious audacious-plugins
[04:34] <holstein> ^ that
[04:34] <holstein> you did that right?
[04:35] <keantoken> yes
[04:35] <holstein> did you get any errors?
[04:35] <keantoken> I saw many warnings, but no errors.
[04:36] <keantoken> But afterwards Synaptic would not open when I wanted to add the PPA audacious repositories.
[04:37] <keantoken> So I rebooted to see if that would fix things and this happened.
[04:37] <holstein> apt-add adds the repos
[04:37] <holstein> keantoken: i would look at
[04:38] <holstein> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[04:38] <holstein> ^^ hehe, at the same website even :)
[04:38] <holstein> keantoken: assumming you can get to the command line
[04:38] <holstein> recovery terminal or whatever its called
[04:39] <keantoken> I can get to the command line via Grub and recovery mode kernel
[04:41] <holstein> keantoken: COOL
[04:41] <holstein> try ppa purge
[04:41] <holstein> maybe
[04:41] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[04:41] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <holstein> after that
[04:41] <holstein> IF it does not 'give up the funk'
[04:43] <keantoken> I just wrote down the commands, and will get back
[04:44] <holstein> keantoken: good luck
[04:46] <keantoken> It says "ppa: command not found"
[04:47] <virtu> still with problems to sync =(
[04:49] <holstein> keantoken: with the ppa purge?
[04:49] <keantoken> yes.
[04:49] <keantoken> I'm logged in as root. Should I login as my normal user?
[04:50] <holstein> should be
[04:50] <holstein> sudo ppa-purge ppa:webupd8team/unstable
[04:51] <holstein> keantoken: you'll need root
[04:51] <holstein> or sudo
[04:51] <holstein> might need to install ppapurge
[04:51] <holstein> i havent used it other than inside ubuntutweak
[04:51] <holstein> it=ppa-purge
[04:53] <keantoken> Also also keep seeing the error "sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error (1)"
[04:53] <keantoken> I tried ppa purg and ppa-purge
[04:53] <holstein> keantoken: try
[04:54] <keantoken> do I use "sudo apt-get install ppapurge"?
[04:54] <holstein> keantoken: yeah
[04:54] <holstein> try it
[04:54] <holstein> also
[04:54] <holstein> you can try
[04:54] <holstein> sudo apt-get -f install
[04:54] <holstein> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/sub-process-usr-bin-dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1-a-171107/
[04:54] <holstein> also, about the PPA purge http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[04:56] <virtu> it sucks to try add audio and video to a new file =/
[04:57] <keantoken> It says "can't find package ppapurge"
[04:58] <holstein> right
[04:58] <holstein> you'll probably need to install it
[04:58] <holstein> thats probably
[04:58] <holstein> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[04:58] <holstein> or ppapurge
[04:58] <holstein> which ever it is
[04:58] <keantoken> I tried that too.
[04:58] <holstein> i think its ppa-purge
[04:59] <holstein> keantoken: tried what?
[05:00] <keantoken> I tried both ppapurge and ppa-purge
[05:00] <holstein> installing them?
[05:00]  * holstein looking
[05:01] <holstein> yeah
[05:01] <holstein> ppa-purge
[05:01] <holstein> ppa-purge - disables a PPA and reverts to official packages
[05:01] <holstein> so you'll need to install it
[05:01] <holstein> with
[05:01] <holstein> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[05:01] <holstein> if apt is complaining
[05:01] <holstein> try running that fix
[05:01] <holstein> sudo apt-get -f install
[05:02] <holstein> almost seems like the computer shutdown in the middle of installing packages
[05:03] <keantoken> I've tried all this and nothing works
[05:03] <holstein> you've tried both of those
[05:03] <keantoken> yes
[05:03] <holstein> and these are not working yet
[05:04] <holstein> any more errors from apt?
[05:06] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541998
[05:06] <holstein> suggests http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541998
[05:06] <holstein> opps
[05:06] <holstein> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:06] <holstein> 
[05:09] <holstein> keantoken: good news is
[05:09] <holstein> you can look more places for help
[05:09] <holstein> this would not be studio specific
[05:09] <holstein> if you drop that error in a more active channel
[05:09] <holstein> you might get better suggestions :)
[05:11] <keantoken> I see "gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: gconftool2: undefined symbol: g_option_content_new
[05:11] <holstein> where?
[05:12] <holstein> that could be an update that got borked
[05:13] <keantoken> running that last command
[05:13] <keantoken> I get many lines saying libglib2.0 has not been configured yet.
[05:13] <holstein> i would expect to see this if an update or upgrade was going on
[05:14] <holstein> and the power was cut to the machine
[05:14] <holstein> anyways
[05:14] <holstein> your going to need to figure out what happened to you packages
[05:14] <holstein> and how to straigten it out
[05:14] <holstein> keantoken: does apt work now?
[05:14] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[05:15] <keantoken> Before I founde the audacious repository I was trying to install the audacious dependencies and I'll bet I screwed up installing the esoteric libglib
[05:15] <keantoken> along with the esoteric libglib+2.5
[05:15] <keantoken> which was worth a good rant...
[05:16] <keantoken> Actually that's gtk+2.5, not libglib...
[05:16] <holstein> keantoken: still should be able to straigten in out though
[05:16] <holstein>                                      it*
[05:17] <holstein> im the kind of guy that would probably fuss with it for a day or so
[05:17] <holstein> then reinstall ;)
[05:22] <keantoken> How much of my system will remain as it was if I reinstall?
[05:24] <holstein> depends
[05:24] <holstein> you mean your entire system?
[05:24] <holstein> if your dual booting something else
[05:25] <holstein> the other OS should be fine
[05:25] <holstein> IF you have a separate home partition
[05:25] <holstein> and dont format it
[05:25] <holstein> you would have most config files and personal files in place
[05:26] <holstein> you can backup your home directory though
[05:26] <holstein> i think ubuntu one does that :)
[05:27] <keantoken> What if I ran ./configure from the libglib folder?
[05:27]  * holstein shrugs
[05:27] <holstein> i would try googling each error you get from a package manager
[05:27] <holstein> and try fixing you packages
[05:31] <keantoken> Thanks for your help. How can I copy my home directory to a safe place?
[05:32] <keantoken> Upgrading to 10.10 sounds appealing anyways.
[05:32] <holstein> yeah
[05:32] <holstein> might as well
[05:32] <holstein> im staying with 10.04
[05:32] <holstein> keantoken: i would probaly just use a USB stick
[05:32] <virtu> almosto done
[05:33] <holstein> you can use a live CD to copy it over if needed
[05:37] <keantoken> How do I put it in the new install without causing strange things to happen?
[05:38] <holstein> carefully ;)
[05:38] <holstein> permissions is really the only issue you should have
[05:38] <holstein> keantoken: just grab the stuff you need
[05:38] <holstein> maybe .mozilla
[05:38] <holstein> just move that into your home
[05:39] <holstein> before you open FF
[05:39] <holstein> OR overwrite whatever .mozilla is already there
[05:39] <holstein> same for the others in theory
[05:41] <keantoken> Alright, I will try that.
[05:41] <holstein> keantoken: you should try asking around though
[05:41] <holstein> maybe in your local ubuntu channel
[05:41] <holstein> IF you feel like troubleshooting a bit more
[05:46] <keantoken> Nah, I think I feel like dealing with upgrade caveats. Though I wish upgrades really meant smoother running linux...
[05:54] <keantoken> Thanks again. Bye.
[06:32] <virtu> finally
[06:32] <virtu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqzjYf1lmQY
[06:32] <virtu> sync in windows =(
[06:33] <holstein> virtu: nice
[06:33] <holstein> is that your tune?
[06:34] <virtu> yes
[06:34] <virtu> recorded the video with a smartphone
[06:34] <virtu> and the audio with built in recorder
[06:51] <virtu> time to go...
[06:51] <virtu> c ya
[06:52] <virtu> tks
[12:10] <floogy> Hi, I'm running lucid on amd64,  alsa-base and source 1.0.22.1+dfsg-0ubuntu3 and  linux-backports-modules-alsa-2.6.32-26-generic    2.6.32-26.25
[12:12] <floogy> I got no sound at all, but the levelmeter for pulseaudio shows a moving graph if I paplay a wav file
[12:13] <floogy> But, When booting into windows I will have sound in winxp
[12:13] <floogy> $ uname -a
[12:13] <floogy> Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-26-preempt #48-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Nov 24 10:43:13 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:15] <floogy> pulseaudio -vv gives this:
[12:15] <floogy> D: module-rtp-recv.c: wi=1862304822 ri=1794430839
[12:15] <floogy> D: module-rtp-recv.c: Write index deviates by 67873,98 ms, expected 500,00 ms
[12:15] <floogy> D: module-rtp-recv.c: Hmmm, rate fix is too large (594238 Hz), not applying.
[12:15] <floogy> D: module-rtp-recv.c: Updated sampling rate to 44100 Hz.
[12:15] <floogy> D: module-rtp-recv.c: Updating sample rate
[12:17] <floogy> What happened to the alsa driver?
[12:19] <floogy> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=866e92f95489a8aea93f45916fa35b85b05b366b
[12:22] <floogy> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/300801/
[12:24] <floogy> I guess it's an issue with the alsa driver itself.
[12:24] <floogy> Does anyone knoe how to debug this?
[12:24] <floogy> knoe/know
[14:37] <virtu> hi
[14:37] <virtu> good morning
[14:38]  * holstein waves to virtu 
[14:40] <virtu> slept only 4 hours.... spend all night trying to sync the audio on that video that I post at youtube
[14:40] <holstein> can be challenging
[14:41] <holstein> i thought it looked fine
[14:41] <holstein> in sync
[14:41] <holstein> i remember using virtualdub in windows
[14:41] <holstein> because i was having sync issues with some project
[14:42] <virtu> Yeah... I use Windows Movie Maker and it was very easy
[14:42] <holstein> it was one of my first experiences with open source software
[14:42] <holstein> worked great
[14:42] <holstein> at the time, movie maker was way off
[14:42] <virtu> so... in linux ambient I got a lot of difficulties... =(
[14:42] <holstein> well, the vid would start fine
[14:42] <holstein> and then the audio trailed off
[14:42] <holstein> after 20 minutes or so
[14:42] <holstein> til it got WAY off
[14:43] <virtu> aham...
[14:43] <holstein> like 5+ seconds or so
[14:43] <holstein> after an hour
[14:44] <holstein> im not familiar with linux ambient
[14:44] <holstein> virtu: should have been in sync from the source
[14:44] <holstein> the phone
[14:44] <virtu> and that matters make me mad... because it seems very simple to sync, but you need a nice software... and WMM has a simple function that allow to delay the sound
[14:44] <holstein> if not, i would look there
[14:44] <holstein> maybe use something like ustream
[14:44] <holstein> with a PC
[14:44] <holstein> then, its uploaded
[14:45] <holstein> and in sync
[14:45] <holstein> and share-able
[14:45] <holstein> all in one go
[14:45] <virtu> sure, it could be, but I recorded the video in mute because the poor quality of video camera
[14:46] <holstein> you should be able to add
[14:46] <holstein> and edit the audio
[14:46] <holstein> in whatever editor
[14:46] <holstein> pitivi or avidmeux
[14:46] <virtu> ohh sure...
[14:46] <holstein> or whatever you want
[14:46] <virtu> but it was very hard to sync them up into pitivi and avidemux
[14:47] <holstein> well, the piece is mostly rubato
[14:47] <virtu> in pitivi I didnt find an option to adjust when the sound begins in seconds
[14:47] <holstein> that would add to the challenge
[14:48] <holstein> i think if i had a project like that
[14:48] <holstein> i would try and have a click track going
[14:48] <holstein> and sync up to it
[14:48] <holstein> on both ends
[14:48] <holstein> vid and audio
[14:48] <holstein> and have some kind of clap on the same beat in the lead in
[14:49] <holstein> go to where the clap is in the vid and line that up with the clap on the audio
[14:50] <holstein> even if its going to be rubato
[14:50] <holstein> and i wanted to record the video and the audio at the same time
[14:50] <holstein> just on different devices
[14:50] <virtu> sure...
[14:50] <holstein> i would still try and clap i think
[14:50] <holstein> or something visual and audible
[14:50] <holstein> to sync to
[14:51] <virtu> visual will be easier
[14:51] <holstein> like they used to do in the movies
[14:51] <virtu> you see your finger and listen the audio.. when they are matching... you will note that all audio and video must be synced
[14:51] <holstein> with that clacker board
[14:52] <holstein> virtu: probably just bothers you
[14:52] <holstein> what i saw looked fine
[14:53] <holstein> i didnt notice any sync issues
[14:53] <virtu> yeahh... that was the better that I did that time
[14:53] <holstein> you could also do a slide show or something
[14:53] <holstein> and play the audio along to that
[14:53] <holstein> then the sync wouldnt be that important
[14:53] <virtu> check this out:
[14:54] <virtu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1xqO5Ycses
[14:55] <holstein> yeah, you just need a good reference point
[14:55] <holstein> a clap or something short and stacato from the piano
[14:56] <holstein> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZDyKlf8bdE
[14:56] <holstein> when we did these
[14:56] <holstein> the guy had the pianist play a loud short staccato 'bang'
[14:56] <holstein> on the piano
[14:57] <holstein> that he could see clearly on the video
[14:58] <virtu> a challenge to sync that...
[14:58] <virtu> but with that signs (visible) it seems to make easier
[14:59] <holstein> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RnThpo0Atk
[14:59] <holstein> we did it each time
[14:59] <holstein> he recorded a concert
[14:59] <holstein> not sure how that got synced up
[14:59] <holstein> but it did
[15:00] <holstein> i like these better though
[15:00] <virtu> like the piano melody from the last one
[15:00] <virtu> smotth
[15:01] <virtu> smooth
[15:01] <holstein> thats one of his tunes
[15:01] <holstein> keith davis
[15:01] <holstein> both of these are his originals
[15:02] <virtu> very nice...
[15:03] <virtu> holstein: now I´ll go launch time...
[15:03] <holstein> have a good one :)
[15:03] <virtu> and after have o work a little... tomorrow I´ll go to Sao Paulo
[15:03] <holstein> nice
[15:03] <virtu> o = to
[15:03] <virtu> c ya
[15:57] <floogy> Hi, I got this if I want to connect to the server: W: socket-server.c: TCP connection refused by tcpwrap.
[15:57] <floogy> If i uncomment ALL:ALL in /etc/hosts.deny paplay works. But that's insane
[15:57] <floogy> So, what should I put into /etc/hosts.allow ?
[15:57] <floogy> According to this http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ#Igetthiserrormessage:Connectionrefused
[15:57] <floogy> This should be ok? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/300883/
[15:58] <floogy> But it doesn't work at all.
[15:58] <floogy> So, what's wrong?
[16:09] <holstein> hey floogy
[16:09]  * holstein reading
[16:09] <floogy> hi holstein
[16:11] <holstein> i see your in #pulseaudio :)
[16:12] <holstein> i will suggest asking in #opensourcemusicians
[16:12] <holstein> and maybe i could help come up with an alternative solution to the overall need
[16:12] <holstein> but, my favorite pulse audio feature is that when i start JACK, it gets disabled ;)
[16:21] <virtu_OFF> pulse audio also is my problem when it is enable =/
[16:22] <floogy> yes, but I'm rarely using jack, so I combined both setups. This might be not the best setup, but it worked once.
[16:22] <holstein> what are you trying to do?
[16:22] <holstein> im not suggesting a JACK solution yet
[16:23] <floogy> and the tcpwrap issue isn't affected by jackd I guess.
[16:23] <floogy> I want to be able to connect to pulseaudio
[16:23] <floogy> W: socket-server.c: TCP connection refused by tcpwrap
[16:24] <holstein> right
[16:24] <holstein> but, what is the overall goal?
[16:24] <holstein> a remote audio player?
[16:24] <holstein> play networked audio in general?
[16:24] <floogy> To get the whole pulse thing to work, as it does once.
[16:25] <holstein> floogy: locally?
[16:25] <floogy> yes locally
[16:25] <holstein> interesting
[16:25] <holstein> so pulse is just not working on your box?
[16:25] <floogy> yes, but I can't connect to it
[16:26] <floogy> So, it's not working
[16:26] <holstein> im not sure i understand what you mean by 'connect to it'
[16:26] <holstein> in what capacity are you trying to connect to it?
[16:26] <holstein> i have a VIA chip
[16:26] <holstein> in a mininote
[16:27] <holstein> anytime i open the pulse audio prefereces
[16:27] <floogy> $ LANG=EN paplay  ~/ged_steffie.wav
[16:27] <floogy> Connection failure: Connection refused
[16:27] <holstein> the device crashes
[16:27] <floogy> W: socket-server.c: TCP connection refused by tcpwrap.
[16:27] <holstein> i have a shortcut to 'revive' it
[16:27] <holstein> but sometimes i have to restart
[16:28] <holstein> floogy: how about the test app?
[16:28] <floogy> Oh wow, pulseaudio crashed. And now it works, hm. So it may not realised my hosts.allow edited version?
[16:29] <holstein> yeah
[16:29] <holstein> probably have to restart it
[16:29] <holstein> to get it to use that config file
[16:29] <holstein> or crash it ;)
[16:30] <floogy> I read one have to restart inetd to use the new hosts.allow settings, but I got no inetd process running. So I guess I have to restart pulseaudio itself instead
[16:31] <floogy> I'll test if everything is ok now.
[16:31] <holstein> i cant imagine why you would need to get that envolved
[16:31] <holstein> pulse almost always 'just works' for me
[16:31] <holstein> and i never do any recording with it
[16:33] <floogy> Hmm, I edited hosts.allow and changed ALL to LOCAL, then restarted pulseaudio and now I get again refused
[16:33] <holstein> floogy: so it was working?
[16:33] <holstein> and you did what?
[16:33] <holstein> why?
[16:34] <holstein> i would say, next time you hear something
[16:34] <holstein> just stop tweaking ;)
[16:38] <floogy> Hm, ok with ALL it works, but not with LOCAL, I can't understand that, and I guess thats not secure at all.
[16:38] <holstein> shouldnt be a problem
[16:39] <holstein> whats the worst that could happen
[16:39] <holstein> you got you firewall down
[16:39] <floogy> because it only affects pulseaudio?
[16:39] <holstein> and somebody plays sound on your box somehow
[16:39] <holstein> a random hacker
[16:39] <holstein> thats running linux
[16:39] <holstein> and looking for a linux user
[16:39] <holstein> to play audio at ;)
[16:40] <floogy> Hm,ok pulseaudio is not vulnerable to gain root access?
[16:40] <holstein> i guess if there is a pulse user
[16:40] <holstein> or group
[16:40] <holstein> that has su access
[16:40] <holstein> but still
[16:40] <holstein> a long shot i say
[16:41] <holstein> floogy: maybe you have some strange hardware
[16:41] <holstein> and would do better removing pulse
[16:41] <holstein> if your worried about it
[16:42] <floogy> Hm, but it always (maybe <10.04) worked that way. I found this here: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio
[16:42] <floogy> and it worked until a couple of weeks ago.
[16:43] <floogy> or month, I don't know. Often I don't use sound at all.
[16:43] <holstein> floogy: this is 10.04?
[16:43] <floogy> yes
[16:43] <holstein> did you update alsa?
[16:43] <holstein> i think there is a script somewhere
[16:43] <floogy> It's a backported version
[16:44] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810#post6589810
[16:46] <floogy> $ apt-cache policy linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic
[16:46] <floogy> linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic:
[16:46] <floogy>   Installiert: 2.6.32.26.28
[16:46] <floogy> *** 2.6.32.26.28 0
[16:46] <floogy>         500 ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ lucid-updates/main Packages
[16:47] <holstein> floogy: hey
[16:47] <holstein> did you try an older kernel?
[16:47] <holstein> you could boot into an earlier kernel
[16:47] <floogy> No, I use this one Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-26-preempt #48-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Nov 24 10:43:13 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:47] <holstein> right
[16:48] <holstein> maybe there is an older one?
[16:48] <holstein> or you could install the generic one
[16:48] <holstein> and see how it works
[16:48] <floogy> But I think thats not related to tcpwrapper behavior of pulseaudio?
[16:49] <holstein> i have no idea what that is
[16:49] <holstein> its never been an issue for me
[16:49] <holstein> these are just some common trouble-shooting steps i go through
[16:49] <holstein> trying to reduce variables
[16:49] <floogy> holstein, What do you have in /etc/hosts.allow regarding pulseaudio?
[16:50]  * holstein looking
[16:51] <holstein> i got nothing in there
[16:51] <floogy> holstein, what os are you running?
[16:52] <holstein> 10.04
[16:52] <holstein> same with /etc/hosts.deny
[16:53] <holstein> just the commented out stuff that come in there
[16:53] <holstein> ive never needed to mess with it
[16:53] <floogy> holstein, nothing in /etc/hosts.deny ? Does it exist at all?+
[16:53] <holstein> yeah
[16:54] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/540018/
[16:54] <holstein> ^^ thats /etc/hosts.deny
[16:54] <floogy> Ok, maybe I discard these files also, because they are for controlling inetd, and thats not running I guess.
[16:55] <holstein> floogy: where did you read that you should mess with them?
[16:55] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/540019/
[16:55] <holstein> ^^ /etc/hosts.allow
[16:55] <floogy> I wanted once to get mpd working: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio
[16:56] <holstein> right
[16:56] <floogy> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ#Igetthiserrormessage:Connectionrefused
[16:56] <holstein> for networked audio playback?
[16:56] <holstein> what is the goal of that
[16:57] <floogy> Yes, but to use it locally, because of it's features and I wanted to use it in a script.
[16:57] <holstein> floogy: i would ask in #opensourcemusicians
[16:57] <holstein> when you get a minute
[16:57] <holstein> with more the overall goal
[16:57] <holstein> lots of smart folk over there
[16:57] <holstein> problem solvers :)
[16:58] <floogy> holsteinm, thank you a lot. I'll try that. ;)
[16:58] <holstein> good luck
[16:58] <holstein> wish i could be more helpful, ive just never needed to hack pulse that much
[17:02] <floogy> I upgraded my computer since hoary, so there is still some old stuff in the configs
[17:05] <holstein> i bet
[17:05] <holstein> might be due for a fresh install
[17:06] <holstein> floogy: i would think you could test what you need to with a live CD
[17:07] <floogy> Yes, I already thought on starting a live-cd to compare things
[17:09] <floogy> thanks, I'm now afk