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jimisrvroxhey guys im having wireless problems that happen ever so often...do not want to have to reset my router...seems like the route table gets wiped on reboot and even applying a static IP doesnt allow to connect. Seems like the network-nm sees the router but will not connect. Any suggestions?03:32
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AssBeardheyheyhey06:02
AssBeardanyone around?06:02
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Beware_i have an odd problem06:04
bazhangBeware_, ask a question then06:05
Beware_oh my06:06
Beware_that's odd06:06
Beware_works now06:06
Beware_nevermind XD06:06
Beware_couldn't get an external to mount06:06
Beware_thanks anyways XD06:07
_stroghi, i have freshly installed xubuntu and was trying out the possible resolution that my laptop can do, and now i have chosen a resolution that i cannot undo09:01
_stroghow can i change the resolution from the console?09:02
Sysihow did you change it?09:02
Sysiand why can't undo09:03
_strogSysi: because with this high resolution i only get either a black screen or with distorted lines09:04
nicofsIs there a way to reinstall xubuntu while keeping most of the files and settings? Is a backup of /home enough?09:17
Sysithere are your personal settings and data, not programs etc of course09:23
nicofsSysi: I know... personally I don't exactly care about programs - except for thunderbird, as it has all my mail stored...09:28
Sysithey should also be in your home folder09:29
nicofsword order: ..., as it has stored all my mail...09:29
SysiBTW, i could make a feature request for natty, put pavucontrol to default installation (i'll maybe put this to launchpad too)09:30
nicofsSysi: do you think, thunderbird will regognise the files if I just put them in the new /home folder prior to installation?09:32
nicofs(installation of thunderbird, that is)09:32
_strogSysi: well is there a possibility to change the resolution from the console? if so how?09:34
Sysinicofs: it should afaik09:35
Sysi_strog: strongly depends how did you change it09:35
_strogSysi: well i went through the Settings-Manager of xfce09:38
Sysii can't find the config file but it should be possible..09:41
nicofsWhat about using xrandr?09:42
nicofs(but that's not permanent...)09:42
_strog??09:43
Sysinot possible if can't log in09:43
nicofsoh... I see the problem... sorry.09:44
Sysihave you rebooted, sure xorg didn't just crash09:44
cybersebhii10:28
Makdaamhello, I've got a problem with my soundcard, speakers don't work anymore but the headphone jack works ok11:16
Makdaamno upgrades or reconfigurations happened between the "working" and "not working" state11:17
Makdaamrunning alsamixer and pulling all the controls down and up again + mute/unmute didn't help11:18
TheSheepdoes it have hardware volume control?11:18
Makdaamnope11:19
MakdaamI mean no potentiometer if you mean that11:19
TheSheepdid you drop it or spill something on it?11:19
Makdaamnope11:19
TheSheepdid you try it with other distro, or with livecd?11:21
Makdaamnot yet11:21
TheSheepif it's broken too it may be a hardware problem11:21
Makdaamok, brb checking on a different OS11:22
Sysinext guess: pulseaudio11:22
MakdaamTheSheep: I checked, and it's OS persistent, but not a hardware failure (BIOS uses the speakers properly)11:44
Makdaamso I'm guessing a firmware issue with the ICH chip11:44
TheSheephow does bios use them?11:45
Makdaambeep when wrong option/wrong password is entered11:45
Makdaamand I have no separate beeper11:45
Makdaamit's an HP laptop11:45
TheSheepthat's pc speaker, usually separate from the soundcard11:45
TheSheepah11:45
TheSheepbut it still may be a separate chip11:45
TheSheepno idea11:46
Makdaamnope, disabling the internal speakers in BIOS turns off BIOS beeping11:46
Makdaamso does disabling the soundcard in BIOS11:46
TheSheepok11:47
TheSheepI wonder, since quite some time each time I wake up the laptop from sleep all the sound controls are muted. Did somebody come up with a solution to that?12:14
Sysii blame pulseaudio about everything12:15
Sysiexept that with it i wouldn't have needed to blacklist driver of my other soundcard12:16
TheSheepSysi: I look for a solution, not for blame12:16
Sysiyou could try without pulse12:16
TheSheepno, I like to have mutliple applications using the soundcard at the same time12:17
Sysiit should work with alsa too, on you it don't?12:18
Makdaamyou could try a manual alsa mixer load12:18
Makdaamafter each wake up12:18
TheSheepMakdaam: I'd rather have the thing that mutes is fixed12:19
TheSheeps/is/it12:19
Sysianything on dmesg?12:19
TheSheeplots12:19
Makdaamhow does pulse handle mixer controls? is it a file like in alsa? can you track which apps open the file/access the API?12:20
BesogonHello. TheSheep. I've made very interesting situation in PackeTracker12:20
BesogonWith routing12:21
hottown... i just installed and am running xubuntu on my ibook g4 :)13:19
hottownso far so good13:19
hottownbut I want to mount my os x disk to access some files, how do i do that?13:20
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dischargehey, anyone have idea why when i click the logout panel button (or menu button) it doesnt show suspend as an option, although i have suspend set as an action to do for power button press and when it works...15:45
Sysidefault xubuntu installation, what version?15:48
dischargeLinux dischargelap 2.6.35-23-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 24 11:55:36 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:48
dischargeyes, xubuntu install15:48
charlie-tcadischarge, lsb_release -a15:49
dischargeNo LSB modules are available.15:50
dischargeDistributor ID:Ubuntu15:50
dischargeDescription:Ubuntu 10.1015:50
dischargeRelease:10.1015:50
dischargeCodename:maverick15:50
charlie-tca10.10 no longer shows suspend by default15:51
dischargewhy is that...?15:51
charlie-tcaxfce changes15:51
Sysiwhat version of xfce 10.10 has?15:52
charlie-tca!info xfce415:52
ubottuxfce4 (source: xfce4): Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.6.2 (maverick), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB15:52
dischargeokay, maybe they removed it for strange reasons, how to get it back?15:52
charlie-tcaI don't know how to get it back15:55
dischargeokay, not that i use it much but its annoying to not have it where it should be15:56
charlie-tcadoes ctrl+alt+escape work ?15:57
charlie-tcano, that is to lock the screen15:57
dischargeit doesnt nothing for me15:58
dischargei dislike screen locking15:58
dischargefor reason its useless when one can restart pc and gain access without pass15:58
MrAnthropeWhat is xubuntu?16:20
sivakumar_MrAnthrope, it is channel for ubuntu16:21
MrAnthropeThen what is #Ubuntu for?16:24
Sysi!xubuntu16:24
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels16:24
MrAnthropeOh I use gnome. I was just told to come in here and wasn't sure why. Now I'm really not sure why lol.16:25
charlie-tcawho told you to come here?16:25
charlie-tcaand from which channel?16:25
MrAnthropefrom #Ubuntu. I can't remember.16:26
MrAnthropeIs xfce4 more lightweight than gnome? For older computers?16:26
charlie-tcayes16:27
charlie-tcaon the lightweight. It is not just for older computers, though16:27
MrAnthropeIs Xubuntu recommended for ubuntu newbs?16:27
charlie-tcanot really16:27
dischargewhy, xubuntu is working out of the box too16:27
dischargejust its lighter16:27
charlie-tcaIt is better if you have some experience first, since it is harder to configure things16:27
MrAnthropeMaybe I'll just stick to gnome until I get the hang of all this. :)16:28
charlie-tcadischarge, Ubuntu aims directly at the new users. Xubuntu doesn't make it easy for them16:34
Sysimost of howto:s are for gnome16:35
Sysiand there are more gnome users16:35
Sysii still could recommend xfce for newbie (and i started with it myself)16:35
charlie-tcaAs long as we are aware that there will be many questions about how to make things work16:36
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* UBuxuBU emerges from the tree tops, swinging skillfully from the vines that decorate the warm turbid jungles of...Xubuntu!19:48
ubuntuHey20:06
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RightLegRedCould I get some help with installing Ubuntu?20:07
charlie-tcaPlease ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.20:08
RightLegRedAlright, basically. My problem is that I want to install to a partition I made earlier - named arch linux - but it keeps telling me I need a root, I don't know what to do. Could someone assist me with this?20:09
charlie-tcaAre you using the desktop or alternate cd?20:09
Sysiset that partitoon to moun point of /20:09
Sysi*partition to mounpoint20:10
RightLegRedcharlie-tca: I don't understand the question, sorry. I'm using the installer, I've booted from a CD20:10
charlie-tcasolerant-dc|away, you choose manual partition, then you have to choose the size20:11
charlie-tcaThen you pick the filesystem, the mountpoint, which is a dropdown, with things like /   /home  /var   etc.20:12
charlie-tcapick /  from the list20:12
charlie-tcawell, ignore the nick and do the rest20:12
charlie-tcathis xchat auto-replaces    s o    with a nick for some reason20:12
charlie-tcaso20:13
charlie-tcaSo20:13
charlie-tcawell, it does something stupid, at least20:13
Sysihow much default xubuntu installation uses disk space?20:13
charlie-tca1.4 gb or there abouts20:14
Sysigreat20:14
charlie-tcaI haven't measured it in Natty yet20:14
Sysii'll need to do usb installation that boots on mac20:15
charlie-tcaI'm thinking that should be interesting. Lots of macs have issues booting from usb20:15
Sysiif i make gpt partition table it should work, not sure though20:17
charlie-tcaI don't know, myself. I have plugged in a usb thumbdrive and installed to it on non-mac, though20:18
jtmoneyUnity will be installed by default in Natty?  Time to find a new distro, I'm afraid.20:59
jtmoneyAny suggestions?20:59
Sysiit won't be in xubuntu21:00
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Sysi(so that's suggestion too)21:00
Sysiiirc you can use regular gnome too21:00
jtmoneySysi, I just installed Natty Alpha 1 and it was installed by default.  Or, at least, looked entirely different.21:01
Sysithat doesn't mean you couldn't use regular one21:03
jtmoneyHow would do I do that?  At the login screen?21:05
Sysiidk, this is xfce channel, and for stable versions21:05
charlie-tcajtmoney, instead of unity, you can choose to use "Classic Desktop session" when logging in22:03
charlie-tcaThen it will be the gnome session22:03
jtmoneycharlie-tca, but I really only want XFCE.22:09
jtmoneyI'm installing Debian + XFCE now. :(22:09
charlie-tcaGreat. Thanks for stopping by then22:10
jtmoneyUhh, is this channel not #xubuntu?22:10
jtmoneyIs my question not Xubuntu-related?22:11
charlie-tcaDebian + XFCE is not Xubuntu related.22:11
charlie-tcaNor is Ubuntu with unity or gnome22:11
jtmoneyYeah, that's my last ditch effort.22:11
jtmoneyI just want regular Xubuntu 11.04 A1... and it comes with Unity as far as I can tell.22:12
jtmoneyMy question is how to disable that without resulting to drastic measures.22:12
jtmoneyGot it?22:12
charlie-tcano,. it doesn22:12
charlie-tcait does not22:12
jtmoneyI wonder what the hell I installed then.22:12
charlie-tcaXubuntu does not have unity. It uses the same wallpaper and gdm background as maverick22:12
jtmoneyMust have been ubuntu.22:13
charlie-tcaIf you got something else, it was not Xubuntu22:13
jtmoneyIt had some weird bar at the bottom and no labels on the top panel.22:13
charlie-tcaThat's not unity either22:13
jtmoneyDo you know what that is?22:14
charlie-tcaUnity is the Ubuntu maverick light wallpaper with a black top panel and a left-side panel in black with 4 launchers on it22:14
charlie-tcano idea what that was22:14
jtmoneyHmm, maybe something strange with 11.04 A 1.22:14
jtmoneyXubuntu that is.22:15
charlie-tcaIt works right here22:15
jtmoneyOkay, I'll try again.22:15
jtmoneyYou're running Alpha 1?22:15
charlie-tcayes22:16
jtmoneyOkay, I'll try again, thanks.22:16
jtmoneyAre you running it on a netbook by any chance?22:16
charlie-tcano22:16
charlie-tcaDoesn't matter, Xubuntu only has one desktop22:17
charlie-tcaUbuntu has both gnome and unity22:17
dischargehello, anyone can help me with a disappearing sound icon bug? when i killall xfce-panel and respawn it manually, it is there, but when ubuntu starts it doesnt show23:07
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