[00:01] test [00:02] seems to work === emma is now known as em [01:04] gn8 [03:32] hey guys im having wireless problems that happen ever so often...do not want to have to reset my router...seems like the route table gets wiped on reboot and even applying a static IP doesnt allow to connect. Seems like the network-nm sees the router but will not connect. Any suggestions? === em is now known as emma [06:02] heyheyhey [06:02] anyone around? === AssBeard is now known as Beware_ [06:04] i have an odd problem [06:05] Beware_, ask a question then [06:06] oh my [06:06] that's odd [06:06] works now [06:06] nevermind XD [06:06] couldn't get an external to mount [06:07] thanks anyways XD [09:01] <_strog> hi, i have freshly installed xubuntu and was trying out the possible resolution that my laptop can do, and now i have chosen a resolution that i cannot undo [09:02] <_strog> how can i change the resolution from the console? [09:02] how did you change it? [09:03] and why can't undo [09:04] <_strog> Sysi: because with this high resolution i only get either a black screen or with distorted lines [09:17] Is there a way to reinstall xubuntu while keeping most of the files and settings? Is a backup of /home enough? [09:23] there are your personal settings and data, not programs etc of course [09:28] Sysi: I know... personally I don't exactly care about programs - except for thunderbird, as it has all my mail stored... [09:29] they should also be in your home folder [09:29] word order: ..., as it has stored all my mail... [09:30] BTW, i could make a feature request for natty, put pavucontrol to default installation (i'll maybe put this to launchpad too) [09:32] Sysi: do you think, thunderbird will regognise the files if I just put them in the new /home folder prior to installation? [09:32] (installation of thunderbird, that is) [09:34] <_strog> Sysi: well is there a possibility to change the resolution from the console? if so how? [09:35] nicofs: it should afaik [09:35] _strog: strongly depends how did you change it [09:38] <_strog> Sysi: well i went through the Settings-Manager of xfce [09:41] i can't find the config file but it should be possible.. [09:42] What about using xrandr? [09:42] (but that's not permanent...) [09:43] <_strog> ?? [09:43] not possible if can't log in [09:44] oh... I see the problem... sorry. [09:44] have you rebooted, sure xorg didn't just crash [10:28] hii [11:16] hello, I've got a problem with my soundcard, speakers don't work anymore but the headphone jack works ok [11:17] no upgrades or reconfigurations happened between the "working" and "not working" state [11:18] running alsamixer and pulling all the controls down and up again + mute/unmute didn't help [11:18] does it have hardware volume control? [11:19] nope [11:19] I mean no potentiometer if you mean that [11:19] did you drop it or spill something on it? [11:19] nope [11:21] did you try it with other distro, or with livecd? [11:21] not yet [11:21] if it's broken too it may be a hardware problem [11:22] ok, brb checking on a different OS [11:22] next guess: pulseaudio [11:44] TheSheep: I checked, and it's OS persistent, but not a hardware failure (BIOS uses the speakers properly) [11:44] so I'm guessing a firmware issue with the ICH chip [11:45] how does bios use them? [11:45] beep when wrong option/wrong password is entered [11:45] and I have no separate beeper [11:45] it's an HP laptop [11:45] that's pc speaker, usually separate from the soundcard [11:45] ah [11:45] but it still may be a separate chip [11:46] no idea [11:46] nope, disabling the internal speakers in BIOS turns off BIOS beeping [11:46] so does disabling the soundcard in BIOS [11:47] ok [12:14] I wonder, since quite some time each time I wake up the laptop from sleep all the sound controls are muted. Did somebody come up with a solution to that? [12:15] i blame pulseaudio about everything [12:16] exept that with it i wouldn't have needed to blacklist driver of my other soundcard [12:16] Sysi: I look for a solution, not for blame [12:16] you could try without pulse [12:17] no, I like to have mutliple applications using the soundcard at the same time [12:18] it should work with alsa too, on you it don't? [12:18] you could try a manual alsa mixer load [12:18] after each wake up [12:19] Makdaam: I'd rather have the thing that mutes is fixed [12:19] s/is/it [12:19] anything on dmesg? [12:19] lots [12:20] how does pulse handle mixer controls? is it a file like in alsa? can you track which apps open the file/access the API? [12:20] Hello. TheSheep. I've made very interesting situation in PackeTracker [12:21] With routing [13:19] ... i just installed and am running xubuntu on my ibook g4 :) [13:19] so far so good [13:20] but I want to mount my os x disk to access some files, how do i do that? === emma is now known as em [15:45] hey, anyone have idea why when i click the logout panel button (or menu button) it doesnt show suspend as an option, although i have suspend set as an action to do for power button press and when it works... [15:48] default xubuntu installation, what version? [15:48] Linux dischargelap 2.6.35-23-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 24 11:55:36 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux [15:48] yes, xubuntu install [15:49] discharge, lsb_release -a [15:50] No LSB modules are available. [15:50] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [15:50] Description: Ubuntu 10.10 [15:50] Release: 10.10 [15:50] Codename: maverick [15:51] 10.10 no longer shows suspend by default [15:51] why is that...? [15:51] xfce changes [15:52] what version of xfce 10.10 has? [15:52] !info xfce4 [15:52] xfce4 (source: xfce4): Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.6.2 (maverick), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB [15:52] okay, maybe they removed it for strange reasons, how to get it back? [15:55] I don't know how to get it back [15:56] okay, not that i use it much but its annoying to not have it where it should be [15:57] does ctrl+alt+escape work ? [15:57] no, that is to lock the screen [15:58] it doesnt nothing for me [15:58] i dislike screen locking [15:58] for reason its useless when one can restart pc and gain access without pass [16:20] What is xubuntu? [16:21] MrAnthrope, it is channel for ubuntu [16:24] Then what is #Ubuntu for? [16:24] !xubuntu [16:24] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [16:25] Oh I use gnome. I was just told to come in here and wasn't sure why. Now I'm really not sure why lol. [16:25] who told you to come here? [16:25] and from which channel? [16:26] from #Ubuntu. I can't remember. [16:26] Is xfce4 more lightweight than gnome? For older computers? [16:27] yes [16:27] on the lightweight. It is not just for older computers, though [16:27] Is Xubuntu recommended for ubuntu newbs? [16:27] not really [16:27] why, xubuntu is working out of the box too [16:27] just its lighter [16:27] It is better if you have some experience first, since it is harder to configure things [16:28] Maybe I'll just stick to gnome until I get the hang of all this. :) [16:34] discharge, Ubuntu aims directly at the new users. Xubuntu doesn't make it easy for them [16:35] most of howto:s are for gnome [16:35] and there are more gnome users [16:35] i still could recommend xfce for newbie (and i started with it myself) [16:36] As long as we are aware that there will be many questions about how to make things work === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [19:48] * UBuxuBU emerges from the tree tops, swinging skillfully from the vines that decorate the warm turbid jungles of...Xubuntu! [20:06] Hey === ubuntu is now known as RightLegRed [20:07] Could I get some help with installing Ubuntu? [20:08] Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know. [20:09] Alright, basically. My problem is that I want to install to a partition I made earlier - named arch linux - but it keeps telling me I need a root, I don't know what to do. Could someone assist me with this? [20:09] Are you using the desktop or alternate cd? [20:09] set that partitoon to moun point of / [20:10] *partition to mounpoint [20:10] charlie-tca: I don't understand the question, sorry. I'm using the installer, I've booted from a CD [20:11] solerant-dc|away, you choose manual partition, then you have to choose the size [20:12] Then you pick the filesystem, the mountpoint, which is a dropdown, with things like / /home /var etc. [20:12] pick / from the list [20:12] well, ignore the nick and do the rest [20:12] this xchat auto-replaces s o with a nick for some reason [20:13] so [20:13] So [20:13] well, it does something stupid, at least [20:13] how much default xubuntu installation uses disk space? [20:14] 1.4 gb or there abouts [20:14] great [20:14] I haven't measured it in Natty yet [20:15] i'll need to do usb installation that boots on mac [20:15] I'm thinking that should be interesting. Lots of macs have issues booting from usb [20:17] if i make gpt partition table it should work, not sure though [20:18] I don't know, myself. I have plugged in a usb thumbdrive and installed to it on non-mac, though [20:59] Unity will be installed by default in Natty? Time to find a new distro, I'm afraid. [20:59] Any suggestions? [21:00] it won't be in xubuntu === Pici` is now known as Pici [21:00] (so that's suggestion too) [21:00] iirc you can use regular gnome too [21:01] Sysi, I just installed Natty Alpha 1 and it was installed by default. Or, at least, looked entirely different. [21:03] that doesn't mean you couldn't use regular one [21:05] How would do I do that? At the login screen? [21:05] idk, this is xfce channel, and for stable versions [22:03] jtmoney, instead of unity, you can choose to use "Classic Desktop session" when logging in [22:03] Then it will be the gnome session [22:09] charlie-tca, but I really only want XFCE. [22:09] I'm installing Debian + XFCE now. :( [22:10] Great. Thanks for stopping by then [22:10] Uhh, is this channel not #xubuntu? [22:11] Is my question not Xubuntu-related? [22:11] Debian + XFCE is not Xubuntu related. [22:11] Nor is Ubuntu with unity or gnome [22:11] Yeah, that's my last ditch effort. [22:12] I just want regular Xubuntu 11.04 A1... and it comes with Unity as far as I can tell. [22:12] My question is how to disable that without resulting to drastic measures. [22:12] Got it? [22:12] no,. it doesn [22:12] it does not [22:12] I wonder what the hell I installed then. [22:12] Xubuntu does not have unity. It uses the same wallpaper and gdm background as maverick [22:13] Must have been ubuntu. [22:13] If you got something else, it was not Xubuntu [22:13] It had some weird bar at the bottom and no labels on the top panel. [22:13] That's not unity either [22:14] Do you know what that is? [22:14] Unity is the Ubuntu maverick light wallpaper with a black top panel and a left-side panel in black with 4 launchers on it [22:14] no idea what that was [22:14] Hmm, maybe something strange with 11.04 A 1. [22:15] Xubuntu that is. [22:15] It works right here [22:15] Okay, I'll try again. [22:15] You're running Alpha 1? [22:16] yes [22:16] Okay, I'll try again, thanks. [22:16] Are you running it on a netbook by any chance? [22:16] no [22:17] Doesn't matter, Xubuntu only has one desktop [22:17] Ubuntu has both gnome and unity [23:07] hello, anyone can help me with a disappearing sound icon bug? when i killall xfce-panel and respawn it manually, it is there, but when ubuntu starts it doesnt show [23:22] gn8