[00:29] <faded0ne> hello, im new to kde and kubuntu. i am trying to install a some c++ ides like geany and kdevelop I cant get the programs to see the compiler can someone help
[01:15] <julio> olap
[01:15] <julio> ai alguien
[01:44] <aidrocsid> How can I disable touchpad drivers within kubuntu without a usable mouse?
[02:47] <darthanubis> anyone got their google calendar to sybc with PIM?
[03:10] <frogonwheels> darthanubis: I have before .. think I just used the ical
[03:41] <vinylfreak89> i upgraded VMWare Workstation to 7.1.3 today and my mouse stopped working (both with and without VMWare Tools installed). I tried reinstalling kubntu over top of it self twice with no luck, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg several times and still nothing. when i boot the live CD the mouse works perfectly. how can I force my installed Kubuntu to redetect the VMware mouse? A clean install is not an option
[03:54] <vinylfreak89>  i upgraded VMWare Workstation to 7.1.3 today and my mouse stopped working (both with and without VMWare Tools installed). I tried reinstalling kubntu over top of it self twice with no luck, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg several times and still nothing. when i boot the live CD the mouse works perfectly. how can I force my installed Kubuntu to redetect the VMware mouse? A clean install is not an option
[04:02] <faded> hey
[04:02] <vinylfreak89> hi
[04:04] <faded> hey im new to linux, im coming from windows, what kind of steps do i need to take for security
[04:04] <faded> fw/av
[04:05] <valorie> faded, linux is generally very secure for average use
[04:05] <vinylfreak89> linux gets very few viruses, but if you want to be extra safe install kaspersky or linux or something similar
[04:05] <vinylfreak89> *for
[04:05] <valorie> I'm behind a router, and don't do anything special beyond not clicking on suspicious links
[04:06] <vinylfreak89> firewall, read up on iptables and for extra security use the APF firewall but that is generall more often used on the server side
[04:33] <meoblast001> hi
[04:34] <meoblast001> how do you have audio in played out audio out in KDE?
[04:34] <meoblast001> i've done this in GNOME before, but recently switched to KDE
[04:41] <gorgonzola> hello all! i'm trying to get my iphone to work with amarok, running maverick. someone in the amarok forum mentioned that the version of libmobiledevice0 in the lucid repos did the trick for him. how do i revert from the version in maverick to the version in lucid without farking up my repos?
[04:41] <valorie> I don't understand your question
[04:41] <gorgonzola> woa. that was some fast un-understanding :S
[04:41] <valorie> lol
[04:41] <valorie> since I hadn't read your question yet, gorgonzola
[04:41] <valorie> i was talking to meoblast001
[04:42] <meoblast001> oh, sorry
[04:42] <gorgonzola> yes, i figured, just joking. :P
[04:42] <meoblast001> basically, i have something running into my mic port
[04:42] <meoblast001> and then my headphones
[04:42] <gorgonzola> i think he wants to know if its possible to make audio out play whatever comes in through audio in.
[04:42] <valorie> gorgonzola: you might get a better answer in #kubuntu or #ubuntu
[04:42] <meoblast001> i want to hear the incoming audio on the mic port out my headphones
[04:42] <valorie> I don't know
[04:42] <valorie> ah
[04:42] <meoblast001> in gnome i was able to do that by raising the level of "Line In", or some channel like that
[04:42] <gorgonzola> i am in kubuntu right?
[04:43] <gorgonzola> i'll ask in ubuntu too... thanks.
[04:43] <valorie> gorgonzola: how to manage the repos will be the same
[04:43] <valorie> meoblast001: supposedly you can route sound with pulseaudio
[04:44] <valorie> using pavucontrol
[04:44] <vinylfreak89>  i upgraded VMWare Workstation to 7.1.3 today and my mouse stopped working (both with and without VMWare Tools installed). I tried reinstalling kubntu over top of it self twice with no luck, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg several times and still nothing. when i boot the live CD the mouse works perfectly. how can I force my installed Kubuntu to redetect the VMware mouse? A clean install is not an option
[04:44] <valorie> but I've never tried it
[04:44] <gorgonzola> yes, you are right, thanks valorie
[04:44] <valorie> oh, lord, sorry
[04:44] <valorie> geez
[04:44] <valorie> I thought I was in #amarok
[04:44] <valorie> lol
[04:44] <valorie> sorry!
[04:44] <gorgonzola> ...
[04:44] <vinylfreak89> lolz
[04:44] <valorie> DUH
[04:44] <gorgonzola> yeah, i thougth i aws in kde when you said that :P
[04:45] <invisiblek> vinylfreak89, switch to virtualbox!
[04:45] <invisiblek> :P
[04:45] <vinylfreak89> stop it you
[04:45] <valorie> well, I would have just stayed silent if I had realized what chan this was, sorry for the noise!
[04:45]  * meoblast001 has pavucontrol open
[04:45] <vinylfreak89> you come here just to troll me
[04:45] <meoblast001> i don't see anything for routing sound
[04:45] <invisiblek> lol
[04:45] <invisiblek> im interested in what is going on too, im not really a fan of the new way that X works
[04:46] <invisiblek> but thats probably mostly because i dont understand it
[04:46] <vinylfreak89> agreed
[04:47] <meoblast001> what's the other pulse audio controller application?
[04:48] <valorie> kmix is supposed to do it, but I haven't had good luck
[04:48] <valorie> and there is vox something
[04:48] <meoblast001> *sigh*
[04:50] <meoblast001> wasn't there some Qt pulse controller?
[04:50] <meoblast001> with "q" in its name
[04:53] <valorie> hmmm, not finding what I want
[05:17] <azzubayr> Bonjour
[05:17] <azzubayr> Hi there !
[05:24] <azzubayr> bye everybody
[06:45] <silv3r_m00n> hi thre
[06:46] <silv3r_m00n> is there a good desktop widget or popup/notfier kind of thing which can notify of gmails for multiple accounts
[06:53] <valorie> there is a mail notifier
[06:53] <valorie> look in kpackagekit
[06:53] <valorie> if you double-click, you'll get a longer description of the app below
[08:24] <jragon> Hello.
[08:24] <dhq> is there a better system monitor than gkrellmd
[08:25] <valorie> yes, that's a Gnome mon
[08:25] <valorie> the widgets are great
[08:25] <dhq> valorie: i use kde
[08:25] <valorie> and systemmonitor is excellent also
[08:25] <valorie> right
[08:26] <valorie> hmm, is that the right name?
[08:26] <dhq> valorie: is systemmonitor in the repos
[08:26] <valorie> system monitor
[08:27] <valorie> alt+f2 will get you krunner
[08:27] <valorie> system monitor and up it will pop
[08:27] <valorie> if you prefer text
[08:27] <dhq> i am getting system monitor downloaded
[08:27] <valorie> otherwise, the widgets
[08:27] <valorie> are great
[08:29] <dhq> valorie: i got it in stalled  but i have to keep choosing the different tabs
[08:29] <dhq> i want something to look on the go
[08:31] <valorie> then you want the widgets
[08:32] <valorie> Temp, CPU, and Network are the ones I have installed
[08:32] <valorie> I think there are others also
[09:26] <m0RrE> i've got the exact same problem with my three monitors as the guy posting here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=89806#p167948
[09:26] <m0RrE> ideas?
[09:26] <m0RrE> "Problem with twinview and 3 monitors"
[09:57] <bicho> anyone here?
[09:57] <bicho> i have a doubt how do i register a channel?
[09:57] <valorie> hmmm, you might ask in #freenode
[09:57] <valorie> or do you want an Ubuntu chan?
[09:58] <valorie> in which case I think it's #ubuntu-ops
[09:59] <bicho> ok ty
[10:43] <juk> hi, so desktop search, how it works, from kickoff menu?
[10:46] <Riddell> juk: kickoff doesn't have desktop search integrated
[10:46] <juk> i mean how do i try search
[10:47] <Riddell> use Dolphin
[10:48] <juk> Riddell: what is input field bellow my name labeled `search` in kickoff menu for?
[10:52] <juk> i think i figured myself, that one is for menu search
[10:54] <juk> Riddell: thanks
[10:57] <juk> so is there any panel volume control thing?
[10:58] <juk> i meant attached to panel
[11:03] <valorie> kmix
[11:03] <valorie> it's a widget in the panel
[11:05] <juk> valorie: i don't have it
[11:10] <valorie> you can add widgets easily
[11:10] <valorie> that one won't have to be downloaded, just added from the "cashew"
[11:10] <valorie> sec
[11:15] <valorie> sorry, my old dog is demanding
[11:15] <juk> valorie: i don't see it for download either
[11:15] <valorie> lol
[11:15] <valorie> as I say, you do not need to download it
[11:15] <valorie> it is one of the included widgets in plasma desktop
[11:16] <valorie> click the cashew and +add widgets
[11:16] <valorie> and either scroll until you see it, or search for it
[11:16] <juk> valorie: sorry, what is cashew
[11:23] <juk> valorie: probably we have different versions of plasma desktop
[11:26] <valorie> kmix is standard
[11:26] <valorie> has been for quite awhile
[11:26] <valorie> oh, the cashew is the little curled shape to the bottom right and top right of your screen
[11:26] <valorie> click that for more choices
[11:27] <valorie> that's the way you control plasma
[11:29] <juk> valorie: no math for kmix there
[11:29] <juk> match*
[11:34] <valorie> right, it just might be volume control or something like that
[11:35] <juk> valorie: thanks for explaining cashew
[11:35] <valorie> it's a little speaker with waves coming out the right side
[11:35] <valorie> if that helps you find it
[11:35] <valorie> maybe just called volume
[11:35] <valorie> but it's the widget controlling kmix
[11:36] <valorie> funny, it doesn't have the app name anywhere
[11:36] <valorie> that's a bit of bad design, for sure
[11:36] <valorie> anyway, I'm off to bed
[11:36] <valorie> best of luck finding what you need....
[11:37] <juk> valorie: thanks, good night
[11:39] <wen>  dsf
[11:39] <wen> hellp
[11:40] <tristan3199us1> so i usually use gnome.. i just wanted to try kubuntu.. and it worked fine the first time.. now i have this huge annoying black square in the way of the bottomof my screen.. what can i do
[11:43] <tristan3199us1> where is everyone
[11:44] <cuznt> i went crazy
[11:45] <i5noc> tristan3199us1, what cha need
[11:45] <i5noc> ffs
[11:52] <tristan3199us1> isnt there supposed to be a tool bar on the bottom of my screen also.. i think its missing
[11:55] <tristan3199us1> how do i access my apps
[13:22] <shahan> I have installed kubuntu on my Maverick (ubuntu)
[13:25] <shahan> in ubuntu there I got the Drive by clicking on PLACES
[13:25] <shahan> but in kubuntu I am not getting this type of things
[13:26] <shahan> how can I browse my NTFS drives there in KDE environment
[13:26] <shahan> ?
[13:31] <tsimpson> shahan: look in dolphin, there should be a list of places on the left side
[13:33] <shahan> tsimpson, hmm tnx
[13:34] <shahan> but I am looking for something like the list as shown in GNOME
[13:34] <shahan> is it possible?
[14:02] <vinylfreak89>  i upgraded VMWare Workstation to 7.1.3 today and my mouse stopped working (both with and without VMWare Tools installed). I tried reinstalling kubntu over top of it self twice with no luck, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg several times and still nothing. when i boot the live CD the mouse works perfectly. how can I force my installed Kubuntu to redetect the VMware mouse? A clean install is not an option
[14:31] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[14:35] <phoenix_firebrd> my kubuntu=10.10, kde=4.5.4 , kernel=2.6.35-23. i think my current kernel has some regression, bluetooth is not working properly, checked it with the previous version(2.6.35-22) bluetooth works fine. does kde 4.5.4 depend on 2.6.35-23 and is it safe to uninstall the kernel 2.6.35-23 and its headers
[14:36] <phoenix_firebrd> help
[14:36] <kirthi> how do i check the satus of website periodically??  Is there any application for this in KDE????
[14:37] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: does the webpage support rss
[14:37] <kirthi> no
[14:37] <amichair> kirthi: what do you mean by 'status'?
[14:38] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: there is a widget to display a webpage , it may help you
[14:38] <kirthi> i mean if the site is low or the server
[14:38] <kirthi> how to check that
[14:38] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: oh
[14:39] <amichair> I still don't understand the question - what's low? what's your definition of a site vs. a server?
[14:39] <phoenix_firebrd> help please
[14:39] <phoenix_firebrd> yeah
[14:40] <kirthi> it means the website and server...which is slow or not responding
[14:41] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi:you can use google chrome's inspect elements to check if a page element takes a lot of time to load
[14:42] <kirthi> hmm
[14:42] <amichair> kirthi: there are online tools and browser plugins (firebug, pagespeed) that measure the response times for each http request in a browser session... would that help you determine where you're losing time?
[14:43] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: if there is no problem with webage, try to browse the webpage using a anonymous proxy to see if there is a problem with your isp's router
[14:44] <kirthi> ya i guess it would help...but...i was thinking are there any tools or applications in the KDE to check this?
[14:44] <vinylfreak89>  i upgraded VMWare Workstation to 7.1.3 today and my mouse stopped working (both with and without VMWare Tools installed). I tried reinstalling kubntu over top of it self twice with no luck, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg several times and still nothing. when i boot the live CD the mouse works perfectly. how can I force my installed Kubuntu to redetect the VMware mouse? A clean install is not an option
[14:44] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: you can use tracert to see what server in between is taking much time
[14:44] <amichair> kirthi: not specific to KDE, as far as I know
[14:44] <kirthi> ok
[14:45] <phoenix_firebrd> !traceroute
[14:45] <amichair> kirthi: but of course any browser plugin, online service, or command line utility will work just fine under KDE as well...
[14:45] <kirthi> ohh
[14:46] <kirthi> i think i have to install that
[14:46] <kirthi> in my pc
[14:46] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: one that specific webpage is slower or one than one?
[14:47] <amichair> guys, you're not making any sense :-P
[14:47] <kirthi> that is what i am not getting...is there a problem with my website or from the server
[14:47] <kirthi> i want to make sure that which one is slow
[14:47] <phoenix_firebrd> sorry
[14:47] <kirthi> ok
[14:47] <kirthi> NP
[14:48] <amichair> kirthi: can you describe your situation better? do you have your own website/webapp hosted on a remote server, and you're not sure if the host or your app is slow?
[14:48] <kirthi> ya i do have it on the remote server..
[14:49] <kirthi> but i am not sure which is at fault the server or the webpage
[14:49] <amichair> kirthi: are there other websites on that server you can compare with?
[14:49] <kirthi> yes
[14:49] <kirthi> but they are all not in the same pace
[14:50] <kirthi> some are running fast and some are slow
[14:50] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: i think there are ways to test the quality of a server online, wait let me check that for you
[14:50] <kirthi> ok sure
[14:50] <amichair> here's one I just found: http://www.octagate.com/service/SiteTimer/
[14:51] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: http://www.vertain.com/?sst
[14:51] <kirthi> ok
[14:52] <phoenix_firebrd> my kubuntu=10.10, kde=4.5.4 , kernel=2.6.35-23. i think my current kernel has some regression, bluetooth is not working properly, checked it with the previous version(2.6.35-22) bluetooth works fine. does kde 4.5.4 depend on 2.6.35-23 and is it safe to uninstall the kernel 2.6.35-23 and its headers
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> help
[14:54] <phoenix_firebrd> any one here
[14:54] <kirthi> ok..thanks u very much Phoenix and amichair
[14:54] <amichair> phoenix_firebrd: sorry I don't know the answer to that :-/
[14:54] <kirthi> i got the solutiom
[14:54] <phoenix_firebrd> amichair: ok
[14:54] <kirthi> solution
[14:54] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: what
[14:54] <kirthi> .thanks u very much Phoenix and amichair
[14:54] <amichair> kirthi: what did you find?
[14:55] <phoenix_firebrd> kirthi: ya what was the solution
[14:55] <vinylfreak89> i upgraded VMWare Workstation to 7.1.3 today and my mouse stopped working (both with and without VMWare Tools installed). I tried reinstalling kubntu over top of it self twice with no luck, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg several times and still nothing. when i boot the live CD the mouse works perfectly. how can I force my installed Kubuntu to redetect the VMware mouse? A clean install is not an option
[14:56] <kirthi> i got to know that my site is slow as well as the server...coz other page like FB and google are fast
[14:56] <kirthi> and there is lot of traffic involved in my server
[14:56] <kirthi> so both are getting slow
[14:57] <amichair> kirthi: if you use e.g. the pagespeed plugin, it will help you analyze what's slow and suggest solutions. It's a great tool for web development.
[14:58] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: did you try starting the os without the xorg.conf file?
[14:58] <kirthi> ohh
[14:58] <vinylfreak89> there is no Xorg.conf file
[14:58] <kirthi> i will try it
[14:58] <vinylfreak89> its using the new Xorg 7.3
[14:59] <amichair> vinylfreak89: I don't know if this is your case, but there was a nasty bug causing mouse trouble for a bunch of wireless models, fixed in the latest kernel update - are you all up to date?
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: is your mouse usb or ps/2
[14:59] <vinylfreak89> its a touchpad
[15:00] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: previously was it working fine?
[15:00] <vinylfreak89> until i upgraded to 7.1.3
[15:00] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: what is the kernel version
[15:00] <vinylfreak89> 2.6.35-23
[15:00] <vinylfreak89> i was thinking it might be a kernel probelm
[15:01] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: i am having problem with the kernel too. bluetooth is not working properly for me
[15:01] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: does xorg 7
[15:01] <vinylfreak89> well i booted to -22
[15:01] <vinylfreak89> and same issue
[15:01] <vinylfreak89> i even went back to .32
[15:01] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: oh
[15:01] <vinylfreak89> same issue
[15:01] <FloodBotK1> vinylfreak89: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <vinylfreak89> lmao... i always use enter as punctuation
[15:02] <vinylfreak89> what was your question about Xorg7?
[15:03] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: did you try using 2.6.37-x?
[15:03] <vinylfreak89> nope is it in the repos?
[15:03] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: is your mouse detected?
[15:03] <vinylfreak89> how can i determine that
[15:04] <vinylfreak89> if it doesn't move im going to assume no
[15:06] <vinylfreak89> i suppose booting verbose would be a good idea... can't believe i didn't think of that
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89:try this "xinput list"
[15:07] <vinylfreak89> ok
[15:07] <vinylfreak89> hang on
[15:07] <vinylfreak89> VM is booting
[15:09] <vinylfreak89> virtualcore printer and virtualcore keyboard, no mouse
[15:10] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: try this "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"
[15:10] <vinylfreak89> power button
[15:10] <vinylfreak89> and keyboard
[15:10] <vinylfreak89> no mouse
[15:12] <vinylfreak89> btw phoenix_firebird tyvm for your help
[15:12] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: see if this page helps you https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[15:12] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: yw
[15:12] <phoenix_firebrd> brb
[15:13] <vinylfreak89> ok
[15:14] <christian__> detected a problem with kmail
[15:15] <christian__> kmail seems to eat my memory (2.9 GB)
[15:15] <christian__> is there a known bug?
[15:22] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: can you try the latest xorg server
[15:23] <vinylfreak89> im using whatever was installed with kubuntu
[15:23] <kirthi> dude go to settings and aloot the memory options
[15:24] <vinylfreak89> i looked thru the link you sent me and it looks like the problem isn't with X necessarily.. the mouse isn't being detected at all by udev
[15:25] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: oh
[15:25] <vinylfreak89> so i guess the question becomes how can i force udev to redetect it?
[15:26] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: thats out of my knowledge buddy ,sorry.
[15:26] <vinylfreak89> no problem
[15:26] <vinylfreak89> thanks for your help
[15:26] <vinylfreak89> i think i know better what the issue is now
[15:26] <phoenix_firebrd> good
[15:29] <phoenix_firebrd> i am trying to remove a kernel it is asking me to remove linux-generic. is it safe to remove it?
[15:29] <vinylfreak89> as long as you have another working kernel
[15:30] <phoenix_firebrd> vinylfreak89: ok
[16:31] <MariusKarthaus> Hi, is it possible to get klipper back to it's usefull function of being able to search in your history by just typing again in kubuntu 10.10 ?
[16:33] <MariusKarthaus> klipper lost it's most usefull function it seems :(
[16:41] <Snowhog> MariusKarthaus: "by just typing again" in what?
[16:42] <MariusKarthaus> in the 'old' kubutu you clicked on klipper and your history popped up. You just started typing a subtring of what you were looking for in your history and klipper would automatically filter it's selection options to your substring
[18:11] <metallico> guys, how do you get the interactive globe wallpaper in kubuntu. I dont have an "globe" option in the wallpaper type for some reason
[18:20] <shahan> how to shutown the KDE ?
[18:20] <shahan> not getting any option
[18:20] <m0RrE> sudo shutdown -h now
[18:21] <shahan> m0RrE, ya this I know
[18:21] <shahan> but looking for graphical
[18:21] <m0RrE> the option "leave" should be in the kde-menu on your panel
[18:32] <shahan> m0RrE, ya , but on Leave I dont get the option for shutdown
[18:44] <DiogenesW> servus
[18:44] <barbadillo> just to say that i'm removing kubuntu-desktop replacing it with ubuntu-desktop
[18:44] <barbadillo> because of kde4 is too heavy nearly unusable
[18:56] <cyberghost> Can anyone help me... I have Kubuntu 10.10 and for some reason I can't install firefox
[18:57] <Snowhog> cyberghost: Is your 10.10 a new install?
[18:57] <cyberghost> yes
[18:57] <Snowhog> Are you using the Firefox Installer that is in the K Menu?
[18:58] <cyberghost> i tried it, the one listed under internet, it was the browser setup
[18:58] <cyberghost> it did not work
[18:58] <Snowhog> cyberghost: Firefox is a browser. When you say it did not work, what happened, or didn't happen?
[18:58] <cyberghost> and i've tried to get it via command line and nothing happened... said something about the source is temorarily unavailable or something
[18:59] <xoma> reboot will help you)))
[18:59] <xoma> i think...
[19:00] <xoma> firefox normally installed on my desktop after reboot
[19:00] <cyberghost> I don't know what to do, I'm very new to linux
[19:00] <cyberghost> thing is, i deleted it and now i'm trying to find it again
[19:00] <cyberghost> lol
[19:01] <Snowhog> cyberghost: The Firefox Installer does work. If you ran it, Firefox should be installed. Reboot and then check the K > Internet menu again.
[19:02] <cyberghost> @Snowhog, where can I obtain the proper pacakge of firefox that can be installed on my system?
[19:02] <cyberghost> I deleted the one undernet the internet menu beings it would not install last time
[19:03] <Snowhog> cyberghost: That is what the Firefox Installer does - it installs Firefox Web Browser on your system. It is that simple.
[19:03] <Snowhog> cyberghost: REBOOT. Please. Then check again in K Menu > Internet. Firefox should be there.
[19:03] <cyberghost> Understand that but I no longer of the installer because I deleted it.
[19:04] <xoma> cyberghost are you russian?
[19:04] <cyberghost> okay
[19:04] <cyberghost> will do
[19:04] <cyberghost> thanks
[19:04] <cyberghost> negative
[19:04] <DarthFrog> No need to reboot.  Log out then log back in again.
[19:05] <cyberghost> I will try that, brb
[19:05] <Snowhog> Newbies. You gota love 'em, and remember that we were once them too. :)
[19:06] <DiogenesW> of course we were
[19:06] <DarthFrog> Newbies are the primary reason this channel exists. :-)
[19:06] <DiogenesW> calls for tolerance
[19:06] <Snowhog> and patience.
[19:07] <xoma> who tried to run ragnarok online under wine?
[19:08] <cyberghost> reboot didn't work
[19:08] <cyberghost> oh wait, let me check the trash
[19:08] <xoma> sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:09] <DarthFrog> cyberghost: Are you willing to do some command line work?
[19:10] <cyberghost> i will try that
[19:11] <cyberghost> @Darth, I'm down for anything... I would just like to install FF because the default browser stinks
[19:12] <cyberghost> xoma, seems to bet grabbing the file
[19:12] <cyberghost> never worked before m8
[19:12] <cyberghost> lol
[19:13] <cyberghost> I hope I can get Kubuntu to work the way I want it because I have grown to Hate Windows OS's
[19:13] <DarthFrog> cyberghost: You will. :-)
[19:13] <cyberghost> =)
[19:13] <cyberghost> Darth, gimme a minute to see if this method works for me
[19:14] <DarthFrog> cyberghost: If you're doing "sudo apt-get install firefox", it should work.  Afterwards, "dpkg --list | grep firefox" will tell you if it's installed.
[19:22] <DarthFrog> cyberghost: Well?   Are you enjoying the delights of Firefox now?
[19:22] <cyberghost> It's still downloading, My internet is extremely slow but that will be taken care of in a day or so...
[19:23] <cyberghost> at least there is proof its in the mix lol
[19:23] <DarthFrog> You will likely want to install flash-plugin also.  Or perhaps not if you've got a slow net connection.
[19:23] <xoma> о_0 GPRS?
[19:23] <cyberghost> i'm happy to see the sudo command working finally
[19:24] <cyberghost> lol, it says 1hr 53 min for download
[19:24] <DarthFrog> Ouch!
[19:24] <cyberghost> yep
[19:25] <xoma> and how many do you pay for THAT?
[19:25] <cyberghost> been contending with the free wifi at the motel i stay at and its terrible
[19:25] <cyberghost> when i get clear, it will be 50 bucks a month
[19:26] <xoma> for what speed?
[19:26] <cyberghost> it says 4g
[19:26] <cyberghost> clear offers 4g hotspot access
[19:27] <Guest22033> hi
[19:27] <cyberghost> when they say 4g i wonder if they are refering to wimax? or that just a protocol?
[19:27] <Guest22033> I have a question about ubuntu
[19:27] <xoma> russian people pay 50 bucks for 10-100mbit in different regions...
[19:28] <cyberghost> nice!
[19:28] <DarthFrog> cyberghost: 4G is a protocol for cell phone internet/data access.
[19:28] <cyberghost> I will run a speed test when I get it and let you know
[19:28] <Guest22033> what is the difference between ubuntu and debian because I use the same command line for them
[19:28] <Guest22033> ?
[19:29] <DarthFrog> cyberghost: Be careful.  Your use is likely metered.
[19:29] <Snowhog> Guest22033: Ubuntu is based on Debian.
[19:29] <DarthFrog> Guest22033: Ubuntu is Debian, developed for the desktop.
[19:29] <Guest22033> ok
[19:29] <DarthFrog> Guest22033: But it is not part of the Debian distribution, it is a separate endeavour.
[19:30] <Guest22033> ok
[19:30] <Guest22033> thx
[19:30] <Snowhog> cyberghost: What you will want to know, is how much - per month - bandwidth you will be getting for your $50.00, and how much extra you will be charged when you go over that limit.
[19:30] <DarthFrog> Guest22033: Ubuntu takes Debian, adds its own special sauce :-) and makes an easy to use distribution  Debian is many things but it is not easy to use.
[19:31] <Guest22033> yep it's true
[19:32] <dereine_> hi when i try to login into kde, i got logged out again
[19:32] <dereine_> my kdm log is here: http://pastebin.com/jWMDJ6NZ
[19:32] <dereine_> i think IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon
[19:32] <dereine_>  isn't that good
[19:32] <DarthFrog> Guest22033: Also, Ubuntu can use a number of different desktop environments.  The default environment is GNOME (GNU Network Object Model Environment).  Kubuntu (which is what this channel is about) uses the much superior :-) KDE Software Compilation.
[19:33] <dereine_> any kind of help would be cool
[19:33] <DarthFrog> Guest22033:  Which desktop environment you use (GNOME, KDE, XfCE or L???) is a matter of personal choice.
[19:34] <Guest22033> ok
[19:34] <DarthFrog> !lubuntu
[19:34] <acemo> has anyone played a full hd video without frame skippings using an ati hd5000 series graphics card?
[19:34] <DarthFrog> acemo: All the time.
[19:34] <acemo> DarthFrog: why isn't it working for me?!
[19:34] <Guest22033> I don't know
[19:35] <DarthFrog> acemo: You're special?  <grinning, ducking and running>
[19:35] <Guest22033> can I use a command line to sit it ?
[19:35] <acemo> DarthFrog: how do you play full hd movies?
[19:35] <Guest22033> to see it
[19:36] <DarthFrog> acemo: I've not done that.  Just videos and YouTube.
[19:36] <DarthFrog> In 1080p, though.
[19:36] <DarthFrog> Guest22033: To see what?
[19:37] <Guest22033> the environnement I mean Kde or gnome ?
[19:37] <DarthFrog> Guest22033: If you're running Ubuntu, you're in GNOME.  If you're running Kubuntu, you're in KDE.
[19:38] <Guest22033> ok I am running Ubuntu
[19:38] <acemo> DarthFrog: full hd youtube works... wtb..
[19:38] <Guest22033> thx DarthFrog
[19:39] <DarthFrog> Guest22033:  "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" will install KDE side-by-side GNOME if you want to try it out.  You can select which desktop environoment to run from the graphical login screen.
[19:40] <DarthFrog> Guest22033: "apt-cache search kubuntu" will tell you all what's available to install  for KDE/Kubuntu.
[19:40] <Guest22033> ok what is kubuntu ?
[19:41] <acemo> ubuntu with kde
[19:41] <DarthFrog> !kubuntu
[19:41] <Guest22033> ok
[19:41] <DarthFrog> Guest22033: You're currently chatting in the Kubuntu support channel.
[19:42] <DarthFrog> !gnome
[19:42] <Guest22033> ya
[19:43] <DarthFrog> dereine_: Does that behaviour survive a reboot?
[19:44] <dereine_> DarthFrog, sadly yes
[19:44] <dereine_> DarthFrog, already tryed to move .kde to .kde-old
[19:44] <Guest22033> ook
[19:44] <dereine_> already full-reinstalled all kde packages
[19:45] <DarthFrog> dereine_: How about "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then reboot.
[19:45] <Guest22033> I understand
[19:45] <jussi> dereine_: do you have ibus installed?
[19:46] <dereine_> jussi: yes,
[19:46] <dereine_> DarthFrog: no new packages was installed
[19:46] <jussi> (and running?)
[19:46] <DarthFrog> dereine_: Can you create a new user and log in as that user?  Do you get the same behaviour?
[19:48] <dereine_> darthanubis: a new user works fine
[19:49] <dereine_> will try another reboot, thanks for the help already!
[19:52] <dereine> so after the restart sadly my main-user still doesn't login to kde
[19:53] <dereine> what might be interesting is when i start any kind of kde-application in gnome i got: http://pastebin.com/Md6BabT4
[19:54] <cyberghost> is there not a way to backup your main user, delete and add back?
[19:56] <DarthFrog> dereine: How about trying this: "mv ~/.kde ~/kde.saved", so that you don't have any KDE config at all.  Then log out and try logging back in again.
[19:56] <DarthFrog> cyberghost: Which will do almost what you just suggested. :-)
[19:56] <cyberghost> =)
[19:57] <cyberghost> in windows it sounds kinda like UAC
[19:57] <dereine> DarthFrog: already did it but will try again
[19:57] <DarthFrog> cyberghost: Go wash your mouth out with soap! :-)
[19:57] <cyberghost> lol, i expected that response actually lol
[19:57] <DarthFrog> dereine: Hmm.
[19:58] <DarthFrog> dereine: What I'd try next is to delete everything in /tmp, then reboot.
[19:59] <dereine> DarthFrog: perhaps it's a important information that i encrypt my data
[19:59] <dereine> DarthFrog: perhaps kde doesn't know it
[19:59]  * dereine has no idea how this works technically
[19:59] <DarthFrog> dereine: Shouldn't make any difference, I shouldn't think.
[20:00] <dereine> okay will try to /tmp thing, thanks!
[20:00] <DarthFrog> dereine: I presume that it worked before and this is a new issue?
[20:00] <dereine> DarthFrog: i have to admit that i installed kde 4.6 and now wanted to go back to 4.5
[20:00] <DarthFrog> dereine: You may need root privileges to remove everything in /tmp.
[20:00] <DarthFrog> dereine: Bingo!
[20:01] <dereine> will be back after a reboot!
[20:01] <dereine> cu
[20:02] <cyberghost> ahhh 23 minutes left
[20:03] <dereine> hi again
[20:03] <cyberghost> so i heard its impossible to install or run windows programs in linux using a VM??? Like if I want to use daemon tools to mount an image or burn a cd I could still use it with  linux?
[20:04] <dereine> DarthFrog: so sadly this didn't worked but you had a bingo :)
[20:04] <cyberghost> *possible
[20:04] <DarthFrog> dereine: You should have mentioned that you tried to downgrade from KDE 4.6 to 4.5 before.
[20:05] <dereine> DarthFrog: sry, missed it :(
[20:05] <DarthFrog> Cuz that's likely where the problem is coming from.
[20:05] <dereine> cyberghost: deamon tools might be special because a) it uses your cd burner b) deamon tools does quite some tricks to be able to write cd's how they want it
[20:06] <DarthFrog> dereine: Grasping at straws here:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[20:07] <cyberghost> ubufox?
[20:09] <dereine> okay no change :(
[20:11] <dereine> DarthFrog: the reinstall didn't changed something
[20:11] <DarthFrog> dereine: How about nuking KDE and re-installing it?
[20:11] <DarthFrog> !puregnome
[20:12] <dereine> DarthFrog: already did this
[20:12] <DarthFrog> dereine: Hmm. Well, since the new user you created works, use that? :-)
[20:16] <dereine> DarthFrog: probably will do it, thanks for all your help!
[20:16] <dereine> if anyone needs some drupal help ...
[20:16] <DarthFrog> dereine: You're welcome.  Sorry I couldn't be of more use.
[20:17] <dereine> it's my fault... perhaps next time i will wait for testing it
[20:20] <DarthFrog> dereine: No you won't.  :-)  And you know it!
[20:21] <dereine> DarthFrog: you got me :)
[20:21] <dereine> 4.6 is definitive interesting but showing each network-smb-storage-device is horrible
[20:22] <dereine> if you are in a network with probably more then thousand other studetns
[20:23] <DarthFrog> dereine: I've not done it, since I'm only a home user on my own LAN but can't you turn off browsing?
[20:23] <dereine> the problem is the divice-notifier
[20:24] <dereine> *device
[20:24] <dereine> it pops up every second
[20:24] <dereine> because someone logged into the network
[20:24] <DarthFrog> Well, I know that can be turned off.
[20:24] <DarthFrog> Or configured.
[20:24] <dereine> seemed to be a file-config
[20:27] <akR4> hi here
[20:38] <wilhart> ppl, wilhart@dragonfly:/var/lib/alsa$ alsactl store
[20:38] <wilhart> alsactl: save_state:1532: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing: Permission denied
[20:38] <wilhart> should i add wilhart in group or something
[20:39] <wilhart> it doesnot save my config!! mmm
[20:41] <DarthFrog> wilhart: Try "sudo alsactl store"
[20:41] <wilhart> darthanubis, yep but wheni boot again i have to store em
[20:49] <wilhart> can i run COMPIZ with KDE Effects?
[20:50] <darthanubis> wilhart: I barked up that tree and did not like it
[20:51] <darthanubis> seems compiz would not give me widgets andd such, as in there were no kwin effects or plasma?
[20:51] <darthanubis> I could be wrong
[20:51] <darthanubis> I just switched back to kwin and turned off blur. All seems well now.
[20:53] <wilhart> DarkriftX, yep i'm trying gnome now
[20:54] <DarthFrog> wilhart: Tab completion is not your friend today. :-)
[20:54] <darthanubis> right
[20:54] <wilhart> dainius, ?
[20:54] <wilhart> darthanubis, ?
[20:55] <wilhart> meh, DarthFrog
[20:55] <darthanubis> I thought he was talking to me earlier
[20:55] <DarthFrog> darthanubis: We Sith have to stay together. :-)
[20:56] <darthanubis> ;)
[20:56] <darthanubis> Just had to explain what Sith means to my GF. Are we really this nerdy?
[20:56] <darthanubis> :-P
[20:56] <DarthFrog> :-)
[20:57] <darthanubis> DarthFrog: do you have a Nvidia card and any issues after being logged in for days?
[20:57] <DarthFrog> No, I have a Radeon.
[20:58] <darthanubis> ok
[21:08] <DiogenesW> gute nacht
[21:43] <eagles0513875> hey guys quick question is there a package which containes the java-me (mobile edition) in the repos
[21:44] <eagles0513875> !java
[21:56] <Snowhog> eagles0513875: No. At least not in any of the standard repos I have active. You might want to review this blog post: http://albertmatyi.blogspot.com/2010/04/develop-mobile-applications-under-linux.html
[22:01] <eagles0513875> humm this should be interesting developing for a mobile device
[22:01] <eagles0513875> with out the java me
[22:06] <eagles0513875> Snowhog: seems like openjdk has java me included cuz netbeans allows me to create mobile apps
[22:06] <eagles0513875> what i find odd is how i cant do that with eclipse
[22:07] <Snowhog> eagles0513875: You can get Sun Java Wireless Toolkit 2.5.2_01 for CLDC from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/download-135801.html
[22:07] <eagles0513875> Snowhog: thats not what im after
[22:07] <eagles0513875> im helping an open source project as they are working towards a mobile version of said app
[22:08] <Snowhog> eagles0513875: Okay. So openjdk gives you what you need?
[22:22]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[22:31] <KukuNut> where is the 4.5.4 for the Lucid 10.04 LTS?
[22:32] <nixternal> KukuNut: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-454
[22:35] <KukuNut> nixternal: I'm looking for 10.04 LTS not 10.10
[22:39] <nixternal> Riddell: ^^ are you guys doing 4.5.4 for 10.04?
[22:39] <nixternal> I wouldn't know, I am not a dev
[22:40] <Riddell> KukuNut, nixternal: there are no plans to do 4.5.4 for 10.04
[22:42] <KukuNut> Riddell: so you are saying 10.04 users are on their own?
[22:43] <Riddell> KukuNut: if you want the latest updates you need the latest kubuntu version in general
[23:05] <crazycheetah> anyone here in the know of how to setup networking, specifically for virtual machines? Having problems where I need two virtual machines (vbox) to talk to eachother, but I need at least one of them to also connect to the internet. Haven't gotten anything to work so far...
[23:11] <mika_> hi, is there anyone who has xorg that sometimes (/ very frequently) use near 40-50% of the cpu? then closing some app (usually firefox, but also chromium, konsole, kontact, etc etc) everything became normal again ?
[23:16] <Rigmarole> mika_: happened to me once before with Amarok. I have no idea what caused it, but when I quit Amarok it went back down to normal usage
[23:16] <mika_> Rigmarole: it's happening all the time... like i close firefox, everything ok, i reopen it and after some minutes the same problem
[23:17] <mika_> but it's not only firefox (so no leaked addons)
[23:18] <mika_> and this is only recent (some update probably, but don't know which one)... i use kubuntu for a year now and it never happened before
[23:19] <Rigmarole> do you have desktop effects enabled?
[23:19] <mika_> nope, i disabled them, thinking that was it... it was not..
[23:25] <wilhart> why do i get tearing when watching movies
[23:26] <wilhart> J #u