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BUGabundonite00:40
doogluswhat's the package to install to get a 'regular' (ubuntu 10.10 default) GNOME shell?00:56
dooglusis it even possible in the current 11.04 alpha?00:57
charlie-tcaIt is already installed. Just choose "Classic Desktop" in session when logging in00:58
dooglusthanks00:59
dooglusI tried booting the live ISO, but it doesn't work well - the persistance file isn't used, I can't install the bcmwl wireless driver I need, etc.01:00
dooglusso to test it, it seems I'm going to have to install01:00
dooglusbut don't think I'm going to want to use Unity as is currently stands01:00
F3RR1Safter searching google for the location of xorg.conf I thought maybe someone here might know where it is located... I need to add refresh rate01:29
F3RR1SI thought that it would be located in the /etc/X11 but it is not there01:30
Volkodavthen create one01:31
Volkodavold linux rule - if it does not exist - crete it01:31
Volkodavcreate*01:31
F3RR1Syeah... alright. Will do.01:32
F3RR1Sdoes ubuntu 11.04 use a something other than xorg.conf?01:53
yofelX uses auto configuration since a while ago and doesn't need an xorg.conf anymore. The xorg.conf file can be used to override the auto-configuration though02:01
F3RR1Syofel_, how can I reconfigure the auto-configuration?02:58
F3RR1Ssudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did nothing (or was silent)02:59
tux414Hey ALL04:01
tux414If anyone could help me with this issue please let me know. I have a gateway NV79 with Intel core i3 processor and intel HD Graphics card. I am having trouble viewing the screen when I upgrade to 10.10. (The screen is completely dark until I do the system testing.) I can only view things on the laptop when i complete the system check.04:02
virtualdf3rr1s: just remove xorg.conf and restart x04:02
virtualdf3rr1s: or maybe X -configure still does something04:03
Volkodavtux414: read the topic please04:05
F3RR1Svirtuald, i doubt that removing xorg.conf is going to do something since i did no have one.... but i did create one  and then removed it because i really did not want to screw something up... but i will try the x-configure.... and see04:05
F3RR1Ssudo X-configure does nothing04:05
F3RR1SXorg-configure & X-configure = command not found04:09
F3RR1Sran as root04:09
F3RR1Showever I am looking on the X.org page04:11
F3RR1Sdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is silent, returns no info, and no configuration comes up04:14
virtuald-configure is listed in xorg's man page, you probably have to run it in the console04:15
F3RR1SI did and am logged in as root04:15
F3RR1Sthrough the console04:15
F3RR1Sno man pages for xorg04:16
F3RR1Snv04:16
F3RR1Si mis-typed that04:16
virtualdif x is already running it will fail04:19
F3RR1Syeah it failed04:20
F3RR1SI am looking for a way to stop x so that i can configure it04:20
virtualdhmm04:21
virtualdsudo X -configure :104:21
virtualdtry that04:21
virtualdor sudo service gdm stop04:22
coz_good day all05:59
coz_hey guys...when trying to install kubuntu desktop full  I get    Depends: language-pack-kde-kl-base but it is not going to be installed07:09
coz_rather  kubuntu-full07:10
F3RR1Sif anyone has an "i945" graphics card and you have created an xorg.conf... I would really appreciate a pastebin07:34
coz_hey guys...just noticed  this when trying to open software-center   http://paste.ubuntu.com/540188/08:30
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zniavre_good morning08:55
zniavre_hello coz08:55
zniavre_right clic on notification-aera gives a bug with menu, did you experienced this too ?08:56
coz_hey guys....is there ,yet. a way to theme the upper panel in natty?09:32
nperrymorning o/10:06
nperrycoz_: There is but you have to recompile unity to do it10:07
coz_nperry,  ok  ..is there anything planned for this befor release?10:08
coz_before10:08
nperryNot to sure10:08
nperryThink the last thing on there mind is themeing at the moment.10:08
nperryWant to make it stable and fully usable10:08
coz_nperry,  your're probably right10:08
nperryAs unity places needs to be done10:09
nperryhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-n-unity-panel10:10
nperryIts in the blueprint :)10:10
nperryFor alpha 210:10
nperrySo expect it by feb :)10:10
coz_sounds good10:10
nperryI'm just getting sick of all the black, I'm a light theme person myself10:10
coz_nperry,  I used to be a black theme guy but since radiance I prefer that one10:11
nperryMy feelings exactly :)10:11
nperryI can cope with Radiance + black unity for time being10:12
coz_")10:12
coz_nperry,  you can always switch to classic gnome desktop :)10:12
nperryBut I like unity! I've got use to it10:14
nperryNot a fan of gnome-shell either.10:14
coz_nperry,   understood :)   I am starting to get warmed up to it .."slowly"10:14
nperryI just wish that the sidebar was transparent to the background10:15
nperryOnly thing that lets it down imo10:15
nperryBut pretty sure it will be by release :)10:15
coz_nperry,  it actually is semi transparent at least here it is but i set that to autohide10:15
nperryautohide? How?10:16
coz_nperry,  in ccsm   compiz unity plugin at the botttom10:16
nperryHow do you get the side panel back?10:16
coz_nperry,  put mouse cursor up to the little ubuntu logo at the top10:17
nperryOh I see hover over the ubuntu logo :)10:17
nperryDamm, quicker typing10:17
coz_:)10:17
nperryI blame the cat that wont get off my desk!10:17
nperryThat looks a lot better :)10:18
coz_nperry,  that I truly understand but my cat is more interested in lieing in front of the radial heater10:18
nperryAh the log fire is to hot for him..10:18
nperryHe sits in front of it for 2mins then he starts to burn10:19
coz_nperry,  :)10:19
nperryRight time for a nice fry up, see you!10:22
zniavre_there is a way to het unity working inside a virtualbox ?11:46
nperry zniavre_ No, don't think there ever will be12:28
nperryVirtualbox isn't man enough to display it12:29
zniavre_ nperry  ok since compiz was working with vbox i tought unity was possible too12:42
nperryzniavre_: It works, but opengl doesn't :)13:30
zniavre_nperry,  im not sure to understand13:32
nperrycompiz has an opengl plugin, which unity requires. opengl is high-end that creates 2d and 3d applications13:37
nperryThats why virtualbox doesn't like unity, as I can't really drive opengl13:38
zniavre_ok for compiz plugin13:39
reventon_has anybody been able to get unity working in virtual box on 11.04 alpha 1? i have 3d acceleration enabled, but when i try the normal desktop option at login it throws an error saying i don't have 3d support and just loads the normal desktop13:39
zniavre_:o)13:40
zniavre_i was asking the same question13:40
reventon_any luck?13:40
reventon_i'm trying to figure out if its a vitualbox additions issue or ubuntu13:41
zniavre_copy/paste the answer >  It works, but opengl doesn't13:41
reventon_"it" being unity?13:41
zniavre_i guess yes13:42
reventon_well have you been able to get it working?13:42
nperryNot really reventon_13:42
zniavre_no13:43
reventon_hm have you tried hosts? like vmware or parallels?13:43
reventon_tried different hosts*13:43
zniavre_no13:44
patdk-wkwhat video card do you have?13:45
reventon_geforce 8600m13:45
reventon_they're saying in the bugs chan that it won't work in virtualbox13:46
patdk-wkdamn, 600 packages to update on my natty :(13:46
charlie-tcapatdk-wk, didn't they tell you run those daily ?13:48
charlie-tca;-)13:48
patdk-wkI haven't had it turned on for like two weeks13:49
patdk-wkbeen too busy13:50
charlie-tcahm, I think there were like 400 one day last week13:51
reventon_146 updates for me and i installed it about 2 hours ago13:51
patdk-wkheh13:51
reventon_and it updating during the install13:51
reventon_*updated13:52
reventon_sometimes (seemingly random) after i log in, only the three menus on the top left appear, everything else (the clock, the desktop previewer on the bottom right, etc.) is blank14:12
reventon_is there a log that covers that?14:12
charlie-tcareventon_: check the ~/.xsession-errors  and   /var/log/dmesg   maybe14:14
reventon_dmesg is normal14:14
reventon_but .xsession-errors is full of goodies14:15
reventon_thanks for that14:15
reventon_all the errors relate to "Unable to locate theme engine..."14:15
charlie-tcausually there is something on the left like [murrine]  or  [ nm-applet]14:16
charlie-tcathat tells what the package is causing the errors14:16
reventon_the first series of errors relate to canberra-gtk-play (the theme issue i mentioned), then nm-applet (null pointer errors) and gnome-settings-daemon that seems to be reacting to the other errors14:18
reventon_there's a couple nautilus errors as well, but nautilus doens't seem to be affected14:18
charlie-tcaNot sure, but I think canberra-gtk is compiz causing it14:19
reventon_i'm running in vbox and loaded the classic desktop at login14:19
reventon_is compiz the default compositor in 11.04?14:20
charlie-tcayes14:20
reventon_do you think compiz is failing because of my lack of 3d support?14:22
charlie-tcagood possibility14:22
reventon_i think i'll file a bug report on this one14:23
charlie-tcaMake sure you include that you are using VBox14:24
reventon_yes definitely14:24
om26ercompiz in vbox bug?14:25
reventon_om26er: well known14:27
reventon_?14:27
om26eryes i think14:27
om26erlet me find the bug14:27
reventon_ah14:28
reventon_nm14:28
reventon_found it14:28
reventon_"The gnome-panel run from the Ubuntu classic session can have applets crashing at start with compiz enabled. One solution is to use metacity in the meantime. "14:28
reventon_where can i change compositors, can't seem to find it in the menus14:31
Richiereventon_: metacity --replace14:32
reventon_will that apply after reboot?14:32
Richiereventon_: No. You can try right clicking desktop > Change desktop background > Erm.. tab on the far right at the top > Click Normal > Click it back to none. That should save it as metacity.14:34
reventon_hm ok. it was none to begin with however14:35
patdk-wkstrange, done updating14:35
patdk-wkand now gnome menubar doesn't start14:35
patdk-wkif I'm using gnome, not even sure :)14:35
Richiereventon_: I know. I'm not sure how/why it ends up saving it as metacity that way. I just know that from experience. (Running natty in vbox aswell)14:36
charlie-tcaCan't you just switch using "classic desktop" session at login?14:36
patdk-wkautologin14:36
patdk-wklooking for a keycombo for logout14:36
patdk-wkstrange, the logout keyboard shortcut doesn't give any logout options, only shtudown, reboot, suspend14:42
patdk-wkusing gnome14:43
patdk-wkif I run gnome-panel from a terminal, it works just fine :)14:43
patdk-wkheh, new updates already :)14:43
patdk-wkstrange the login menu changed :(14:44
patdk-wkUbuntu classic desktop14:45
patdk-wkubuntu desktop edition14:45
patdk-wkuser defined session14:45
patdk-wkso classic works, normal doesn't14:46
patdk-wkso I'm hit by that known issue with unity :(14:48
reventon_charlie-tca: i was selecting classic desktop, but compiz was being enabled regardless15:03
charlie-tcaO.o15:04
reventon_yeah exactly15:04
reventon_how can i check which compositor is running?15:04
charlie-tcaI don't know15:05
CardinalFangHi.  I would like a confirmation of a bug before I do anything about it.  Got Gnome?  Got a scroll wheel on your mouse?15:21
CardinalFangGo to sound preferences.  Find a volume slider.  Scroll down and up.  What happens?  If you can scroll left and right, what happens?15:22
reventon_CardinalFang: interesting15:25
reventon_scrolling up and down only moves it down, is that what you're getting at?15:25
CardinalFangreventon_, Yes.  Thank you!15:25
* CardinalFang gets source code.15:25
reventon_are you on a macbook?15:25
CardinalFangNo.15:25
reventon_k i am15:26
CardinalFangThanks.15:26
reventon_apparently software-centre-agent.db doesn't exist in my home folder15:38
reventon_however software-center-agent.db.tmp does15:39
reventon_but the script doesn't recognize that as a valid dv15:39
reventon_*db15:39
reventon_if i make .db.tmp -> .db it still fails15:41
rorkI downloaded natty-alternate-amd64 over bittorrent and I got the following MD5Sum: ddba67ef993ed334b11a856877fa2a3a this is incorrect according to the list met md5sums (should be 8133827598492e2724a4fbe8cad5b804)15:47
reventon_and its finished downloading?15:48
rorkyes15:49
reventon_give me 4 mins, i'm downloading it and i'll check for you15:50
rorkok15:51
rorkhm, I checked the data in ktorrent and it said 90 failed, it's back to 93%15:52
reventon_that's what i was about to ask you15:53
rork:) I never knew that was needed, I expected ktorrent to do that automatically during/after downloading15:54
reventon_you mean it didn't automatically fetch the corruption segments?15:54
reventon_probably an obscure option in the preferences15:54
reventon_also15:56
reventon_from MD5SUMS: 44f3459f1d6d95091d220eb9d1eb59bc *natty-alternate-amd64.iso15:56
reventon_double check where you're getting that md5sum from15:56
reventon_because i just downloaded the iso and got 44f...15:57
rorkhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/alpha-1/MD5SUMS15:57
reventon_http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-1/MD5SUMS15:57
reventon_aah15:57
reventon_kubuntu15:57
reventon_thats the difference15:57
reventon_i downloaded vanilla ubuntu15:57
rorkhm, yes the naming could be confusing I guess...15:59
rorkI'll try again when the download finishes, and check my settings also. Thanks16:00
reventon_np16:01
rorkhm, it appears that "Check data when download finishes" was deselected indeed :S16:03
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_Groo_hi/2 all18:27
_Groo_guys whats the proper channel for filesystem bugs in ubuntu?18:27
patdk-wkthat depends18:28
patdk-wkwhat version of ubuntu?18:28
_Groo_patdk-wk: i believe all of them... its a bizarre case of reiserfs + ecryptfs18:30
_Groo_patdk-wk: if my machine has a hard crash (those really ugly ones which can cause data loss (hardware freezes)18:31
_Groo_patdk-wk: reiserfs runs its log, so far so good18:31
_Groo_patdk-wk: the problem is that ecryptfs is not yet mounted (enabled?) on top of reiserfs18:32
patdk-wkall of them?18:32
patdk-wkthen your in the wrong channel, this if for natty only18:32
_Groo_patdk-wk: so reiser is sending raw data to the inodes, but when ecryptfs gets mounted, the data is all borked18:32
_Groo_patdk-wk: it has same behaviour with natty18:32
patdk-wknote topic18:32
_Groo_patdk-wk: ok natty is affected too18:33
patdk-wkstill feels wrong to me, to get help here, if other versions where not affected, but natty is18:33
_Groo_patdk-wk: natty and maverick AT LEAST are affected by this18:33
_Groo_patdk-wk: natty + maverick that i could test18:33
patdk-wkya, I gave up on reiserfs long ago18:34
patdk-wktoo much lost data18:34
patdk-wkhaven't had that issue with ext18:34
charlie-tca_Groo_: if it affects security, it might be better in #ubuntu-hardened18:34
charlie-tcaBut I am guessing18:34
zanusIs there a way to set/change/increase the audio latency on a virtual machine... particularly vmware player.  Actually, I'm not sure whether to change it on the VM or the host.18:35
_Groo_zanus: vmware uses alsa now, so maybe the host?18:35
_Groo_charlie-tca: is data loss a security problem? :D18:35
_Groo_patdk-wk: reiserfs doesnt lose data, its ecryptfs layer thats the problem18:36
charlie-tcawith ecryptfs, it should be18:36
_Groo_patdk-wk: without ecrypt i have zero data loss18:36
zanusthanks _Groo_  , where would I need to start to figure that out?18:36
_Groo_zanus: alsa wiki? you need to costumize your user settings via .alsaconf i guess18:37
patdk-wkI have never used encryptfs18:37
_Groo_patdk-wk: its the default (to encrypt your home), since 2 versions ago18:37
patdk-wkit's not the default18:38
_Groo_patdk-wk: thing is, i never had problems with ecryptfs + reiser prior maverick18:38
patdk-wkit asks you, encrypt yes or no, I always pick no18:38
patdk-wk:)18:38
_Groo_patdk-wk: ok its 50% default18:38
patdk-wkI do encrypt my whole disk though18:38
_Groo_patdk-wk: and it used to work just fine18:38
_Groo_what channel for kernel bugs?18:40
_Groo_or filesystems bugs?18:40
patdk-wkisn't there a #ubuntu-kernel?18:40
_Groo_nope18:40
IdleOne!bugs18:41
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zanus_Groo_,  I have no .alsaconfig18:42
_Groo_zanus: exactly you need to create one :)18:43
zanusoh boy18:43
yofel_Groo_: there *is* #ubuntu-kernel, but for bugs in general you would ask the bugsquad in #ubuntu-bugs, filesystem bugs are kernel bugs, so use 'ubuntu-bug linux' to report them18:48
doogluswhen I open a URL in pidgin or gnome-terminal, it's opening in firefox, even though it's configured to use chrome.  any idea how to fix this?19:18
nperryUrrrrm20:00
nperryI swear I seen that new kernel was uploaded20:00
nperryBut not showing for upgrade20:00
PiciDid it ftbfs?20:01
nperryftbfs?20:01
PiciFailed to build from source20:02
nperrySorry wasn't sure :)20:02
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nperryPici: marked as published on lp publish history20:05
nperryneil@netbook:~$ sudo aptitude show linux-image-generic20:06
nperryPackage: linux-image-generic20:06
nperryState: installed20:06
nperryAutomatically installed: no20:06
nperryWhy is it set to 'no'20:06
IdleOnenperry: mine says the same20:09
IdleOnealso you don't need to use sudo with aptitude show :)20:09
nperryMeh, force of habbait20:09
nperryBut mine is showing Version: 2.6.37.7.920:10
IdleOneyup20:10
IdleOnesame here20:10
IdleOneGeneric Linux kernel image20:10
IdleOne This package will always depend on the latest generic kernel image available.20:10
IdleOneuname -a should show you 2.6.37-7-generic20:11
nperryButt there is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/linux/2.6.37-8.2120:12
IdleOnemaybe hasn't been pushed to all the mirrors yet?20:13
IdleOneI have no idea to be honest20:13
nperryHmm nor do I...20:14
IdleOnewhen it is time to be installed it will be installed.20:14
nperryIndeed20:16
Slasher`anyone know how to disable usb 2.0 in ubuntu and have it force use usb 1.1 please?20:20
Slasher`ooh wrong channel, sorry20:20
yaaarso i've read some conflicting reports on the whole unity/wayland thing: some folks have been playing it like it'll pretty much be the same UI as the current netbook edition, while others have acted like it's going to be more gnome shell-ish (or more traditional-desktopish perhaps is a better way to put it). anybody want to set me straight on that? and are there any mockups or design docs...20:23
yaaar...floating around i could look over?20:23
yaaarbtw i'm totally stoked about wayland20:23
yaaarbeen screwing around with X since the '90s, and sure i eventually got to where i could pretty much make it do what i want....but certainly wasn't ever thrilled with it20:24
nperrynew kernel hit the repo21:10
reventon_just now?21:12
nperryreventon_: yes21:35
IdleOnenperry: All things in time :)21:59
CarlFKhttp://dpaste.de/Kxxr/   sudo apt-get install atftp ... Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/universe atftp i386 0.7.dfsg-9.223:47
CarlFK... "Something wicked happened resolving 'fe80::208:2ff:fea0:abcf:8000' (-9 - Address family for hostname not supported)"23:48
CarlFKit is a mostly vanilla natty install with squid-deb-proxy-client.  I did nothing relating to ipv6.  trying to figure out what to log a bug against.23:48
jpdsCarlFK: That's just weird.23:57
CarlFKjpds: it happens every so often.  till now I haven't put any effort into tracking it down23:58
jpdsCarlFK: fe80:: addresses are link-local addresses, so it will belong to something on your LAN.23:58
CarlFKon the squid server box:           inet6 addr: fe80::208:2ff:fea0:abcf/64 Scope:Link23:59

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