[00:32] <head_victim> caryb: thanks for updating the wiki :D
[00:32] <head_victim> I've just added it to the loco directory as an event as well.
[12:17] <alvin1> hey guys
[12:17] <nisshh> alvin1, yo :)
[12:17] <nisshh> alvin1, hows that for a quick reply? :)
[12:18] <alvin1> nisshh: much faster than me lol
[12:18] <nisshh> hehe
[12:18] <nisshh> alvin1, can i help you with something?
[12:18] <nisshh> oh are you just here to hang out?
[12:18] <nisshh> or*
[12:19] <alvin1> nisshh: i have one question
[12:19] <nisshh> shoot :)
[12:19] <alvin1> nisshh: I'm trying to find a suitable antivirus, do you have any suggestions?
[12:20] <nisshh> alvin1, an antivirus for Ubuntu?
[12:20] <alvin1> yep
[12:20] <alvin1> nisshh: unusally request...I know
[12:20] <nisshh> alvin1, ok, you do know about the lack of viruses on linux, etc?
[12:21] <alvin1> yep
[12:21] <head_victim> alvin1: not sure exactly what you're after but I'd start with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security
[12:21] <head_victim> nisshh: if you're running shared drives with windows machines you should still cover yourself
[12:21] <alvin1> I transfer a lot stuff over from windows
[12:21] <nisshh> head_victim, i know, im just making sure alvin1 knows, etc
[12:22] <nisshh> alvin1, google ClamAV :)
[12:22] <alvin1> has anybody tried clamav
[12:22] <nisshh> hehe
[12:22] <alvin1> to quick
[12:22] <nisshh> alvin1, i tried it once, its very good :)
[12:22] <alvin1> I heard avg has launched linux edition
[12:23] <alvin1> there is also avant... but I don't have any experience with either
[12:23] <nisshh> have they? meh, your better off with ClamAV anyway, no useless advertising and upgrade notifications that way :)
[12:23] <nisshh> alvin1, you mean avast?
[12:23] <alvin1> yes that's the one
[12:24] <nisshh> yeah, neither have i
[12:24] <nisshh> supposedly its ok though
[12:24] <alvin1> I'll give clamav a try and let you know how i get on...cheers
[12:27] <nisshh> alvin1, no problem, good luck :)
[12:27] <nisshh> what a nice user :)
[12:32] <head_victim> Of course, you'd expect that from another bigpond user though.
[12:32] <nisshh> haha
[12:33] <nisshh> head_victim, actually when he comes back i might let him know about the aarnet mirror
[12:33] <nisshh> spread the love! :)
[12:34] <sagaci> is he on bigpond
[12:34] <sagaci> forget that
[12:40] <nisshh> sagaci, yeah :)
[12:40] <nisshh> sagaci, us bigpond users are a dying breed :)
[12:40] <nisshh> there is only a few of us left in the whole loco :)
[12:40] <sagaci> what do people use, iinet internode
[12:41] <sagaci> tpg
[12:42] <nisshh> sagaci, yeah, a lot of people are switching from bigpond to internode and iinet, but they dont know that you can solve the uptime problems by not using bigponds DNS servers :)
[12:43] <nisshh> i have had no net problems since switching to opendns
[12:43] <nisshh> bigponds DNS servers made my dns requests time out all the time, so i was unable to access the net all the time (i had dropouts several times a day)
[12:44] <nisshh> every day :)
[12:44] <sagaci> i haven't had any trouble with my adsl2 connection in two years. I know we pay a bit more, the only thing i'd want is a bigger file server that's unmetered, in addition to aarnet
[12:45] <nisshh> sagaci, yeah, but your on internode :)
[12:46] <sagaci> at the moment i'm on mobile wireless but the majority of the time i use bigpond
[12:46] <nisshh> ah ok
[12:47] <nisshh> sagaci, aarnet rocks :)
[12:47] <nisshh> the file mirror i mean
[12:47] <nisshh> you can get everything on there :)
[12:47] <sagaci> the old file mirror was sometimes better though
[12:47] <sagaci> ted talks and linux isos are good on aarnet
[12:47] <sagaci> not too much else for me so far
[12:48] <sagaci> small downloads like vlc firefox etc are non-issue
[12:48] <sagaci> and ubuntu updates
[12:48] <nisshh> heh, i get all my ubuntu iso's and linux kernel source code from aarnet, as well as using the ubuntu mirror
[12:48] <sagaci> wish they'd mirror the dev releases of ubuntu
[12:48] <nisshh> it saves me 5-7GB's a month :)
[12:49] <nisshh> sagaci, they do i thought
[12:49] <sagaci> i'm on the 50gb plan and I used 75gb unmetered last month
[12:49] <nisshh> oh ok, only 10.10
[12:49] <nisshh> sagaci, holy crap, what do you download?
[12:49] <sagaci> i think you have to ask them but they sometimes just say upgrade from 10.10 using dist-upgrade w/e
[12:50] <sagaci> wget -r'd the ted talks directory which was about 35gb and then linux isos, and openstreetmap i think
[12:50] <sagaci> only took a couple of hours
[12:50] <sagaci> 2.2MB/s
[12:50] <nisshh> ah yeah
[12:51] <nisshh> sagaci, what is ted talks?
[12:51] <sagaci> technology education design
[12:51] <sagaci> like presentations on topics
[12:51] <sagaci> some are good
[12:51] <sagaci> between 9-25m usually
[12:51] <sagaci> minutes
[12:52] <nisshh> ah ok
[12:52] <sagaci> for example http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/TED-talks/JulianAssange_2010G_480.mp4
[12:53] <sagaci> explicit material in that one though
[12:53] <nisshh> yeah
[12:53] <sagaci> I got into it after watching a richard dawkins and a ken robinson (education guy) presentation
[12:54] <nisshh> yeah
[12:55] <sagaci> anything else you use aarnet for?
[12:59] <nisshh> sagaci, not really, tbh
[13:02] <sagaci> the old file mirror of bigponds had podcasts, that's really the only thing I miaa
[13:02] <sagaci> ss
[13:03] <sagaci> do you have a local ubuntu mirror
[13:03] <nisshh> no, i dontr
[13:03] <nisshh> i wasnt around when the old mirror was up
[13:03] <nisshh> well, i just didnt know about it, tbh
[13:03] <sagaci> i used to think it'd be a good idea but when my d/l speed is so good, i don't see the point
[13:03] <nisshh> yeah
[13:04] <nisshh> sagaci, i have 8mbps, so its not really necessary for me either :)
[13:04] <sagaci> do you rsync the isos or just get what you need when you need it
[13:04] <nisshh> just occassionally
[13:04] <nisshh> when im upgrading/fresh installing really
[13:04] <sagaci> i have around 20mbps
[13:04] <nisshh> yeah
[13:05] <nisshh> i can get that speed here supposedly, but its fairly expensive
[13:05] <sagaci> annoys me that it now takes longer to install darn packages than to download them
[13:05] <nisshh> and 8mbps is fine for what i do tbh, i can download a cd image in like 10 minutes
[13:06] <sagaci> i used to be on 8mbps, ~860kbps, but after switching up, I love 3m 30second iso download and post install download updates
[13:07] <nisshh> yeah
[13:07] <sagaci> i remember when I was on 256kbps and it took roughly 8hrs to download an ubuntu iso
[13:08] <sagaci> even sudo apt-get update was a big event
[13:09] <nisshh> sagaci, oh man yeah, i used to be on that speed (last year) then i get 1.5mbps and that was ok, but it doesnt compare to 8mbps :)
[13:09] <nisshh> i was on 1.5 for nearly a year
[13:10] <sagaci> yeah, i went dialup 28.8, 256, 1.5, 8, 20
[13:12] <nisshh> yeah
[13:13] <nisshh> sagaci, i went dialup, 64, 256, 1.5, 8 :)
[13:14] <sagaci> each step felt like a breath of fresh air
[13:14] <nisshh> sagaci, my computer is so crap and old, my net connection loads the page and actually waits for my graphics chip to render the page :)
[13:14] <nisshh> yeah, hehe
[13:15] <nisshh> so my net connection is actually faster than my graphics card :)
[13:17] <sagaci> i was so happy when I discovered wget
[13:18] <sagaci> firefox kept borking dvd iso files
[13:18] <sagaci> like 3.1gb into the download
[13:19] <sagaci> another tool i like is youtube-dl
[13:21] <nisshh> yeah
[13:22] <nisshh> i love wget
[13:26] <sagaci> yeah and wget -c <3
[13:26] <sagaci> didn't ever think that kind of functionality existed
[13:37] <nisshh> sagaci, what does the -c option do?
[13:38] <sagaci> continue mode
[13:38] <nisshh> ah yeah
[13:39] <Blank__> very handy mode
[13:39] <sagaci> oh, and i wish bp unmetered iview
[13:40] <Blank__> we don't watch enough stuff there for it to be an issue for us, but i agree
[13:40] <nisshh> yeah
[13:41] <Blank__> i wish the abc didn't make it so difficult for shows to be downloaded from iview, either
[13:41] <Blank__> but that's a pipe dream really
[13:48] <head_victim> I just rsync the whole repo :D
[13:49] <head_victim> Apparently no one even batted an eyelid at 450+gb of unmetered data in 2 days. No email complaining, nothing.
[13:50] <sagaci> then it just downloads the next updates as they come, yeah?
[13:50] <Blank__> oh wow
[14:06] <head_victim> sagaci: When it's where I want it properly on the home network I'll just set up scripts to auto update it like a "proper" mirror.
[14:06] <head_victim> Now I've got it it will only download the changes, not the whole lot again.
[14:07] <sagaci> yeah that's what i thought
[14:08] <head_victim> I have 3 Ubuntu PCs here and hopefully a 4th and if I really try my luck with the wife a 5th as well so it's almost worth it.