[01:17] <Kimmono> thewrath: try #wikileaks
[01:42] <cap> is there a way to get indiator to launch thunderbird and pidgin?
[01:45] <aveilleux> cap: You mean to have them display in the indicator-applet?
[01:46] <cap> yeah, pidgin shows up in there but not thunderbird.  It be nice to remove the things I don't use from there as well.
[01:47] <aveilleux> cap: Thunderbird has a plugin called FireTray. Look for it in Tools > Add-Ons > Search
[01:48] <aveilleux> cap: You can remove programs from the indicator applet by going to that program's prefs and disabling the tray icon.
[01:52] <cap> that's pretty neat.  Is there no way to have thunderbirds icon show up where the old mail one did?
[01:53] <aveilleux> cap: Can you rephrase that question?
[01:53] <aveilleux> cap: You mean remove the mail icon and put in Firetray?
[01:53] <cap> yeah. sorry
[02:13] <aveilleux> cap: You have to add Firetray, then remove the applet that contains the messaging icon
[02:17] <cap> I don't think I understand fully.  Where can I add/remove applets.
[02:18] <aveilleux> cap: Right-click, "Remove from Tray".
[02:18] <aveilleux> cap: Removing that applet will also remove your volume control applet, but I can help you get it back.
[02:19] <nit-wit> aveilleux, are you using the startup and gnome-volume-control-applet
[02:19] <cap> i have a "Remove from Panel"option
[02:21] <aveilleux> cap: That one
[02:22] <aveilleux> nit-wit: Yes
[02:22] <cap> ok, done.
[02:23] <aveilleux> cap: Did you install Firetray
[02:23] <aveilleux> ?
[02:24] <cap> yeah.
[02:24] <aveilleux> cap: It's showing up, yeah?
[02:25] <cap> yeah.
[02:26] <cap> but what I would like is for the thunderbird icon to have been in the panel I just removed.
[02:26] <kristian-aalborg> hi
[02:27] <kristian-aalborg> can somebody help me get wireless working?
[02:27] <kristian-aalborg> I have a pcmcia card - MA401(RA) Rev.D
[02:27] <kristian-aalborg> it lists as eth1 for some reason
[02:27] <nit-wit> aveilleux, cool I figured as such
[02:27] <kristian-aalborg> if I turn it on with ifconfig, I can see the available networks
[02:28] <aveilleux> cap: You mean indicator-applet? The mail icon isn't in indicator-applet.
[02:28] <aveilleux> Er,
[02:28] <aveilleux> The Thunderbird icon doesn't appear in indicator-applet.
[02:28] <aveilleux> It appears in System Tray.
[02:29] <cap> ok that makes sense, so there's no way to get it to appear in the inicator-applet?
[02:29] <aveilleux> cap: No, because that's not the way it's designed.
[02:30] <cap> fair enough
[02:31] <aveilleux> cap: Is there any particular reason you need it in there>
[02:31] <aveilleux> ?
[02:31] <paultag> cap[asso] ?
[02:31] <cap> i just liked the layout of it.  yeee paul
[02:32] <paultag> cap: <3
[02:33] <aveilleux> cap: The layout? The system tray performs the same function.
[02:36] <cap> I just thought I'd be able to add and remove programs to the indicator app
[02:36] <cap> no big deal though.
[02:43] <paultag> cap: rewrite it dide, that's what the CS degree is for, mang
[02:43] <paultag> dude *
[02:43] <paultag> man I'm lagging
[02:45] <cap> gotta work on my C skills first
[02:46] <paultag> bbl, just a moment
[02:46] <cap> speaking of which, know of a good guide to setting up dev enviornments and what not?
[02:48] <kristian-aalborg> lspci does not show the card, but lspcmcia does
[03:20] <tux414> I have a gateway NV79 with Intel core i3 processor and intel HD Graphics card. I am having trouble viewing the screen when I upgrade to 10.10. (The screen is completely dark until I do the system testing.) I can only view things on the laptop when i complete the system check. Plus my sound works on 10.10 but not on 10.04
[10:11] <Silver_Fox_> Good day
[10:14] <Puck`> hello Silver_Fox_ (:
[10:15] <Silver_Fox_> Hello Puck` . How are you?
[10:34] <Puck`> doing okay thank you, working on a new site again (:
[10:50] <Silver_Fox_> Sounds fun Puck`
[11:51] <hajour> hai
[11:53] <nlsthzn> alo
[11:53] <hajour> hai nlsthzn
[11:53] <nlsthzn> hajour: how are you?
[11:54] <hajour> o alright thanks . and how are you nlsthzn
[11:55] <nlsthzn> hajour: always good :p (lol@using support channels for idle chatting)
[11:57] <hajour> a ok.:)
[12:06] <alvin1> hi there
[12:08] <alvin1> does anybody know why the icon panel changes/removes programs on display
[12:44] <Assembler> has anyone got XPS L501x laptop ?
[12:44] <Assembler> I am facing a USB live boot problem in ubuntu 10.10.
[12:45] <Assembler> any suggestions ?
[12:47] <Silver_Fox_> Where does it fail Assembler  ?
[12:47] <Silver_Fox_> Is it even attempting to boot?
[12:49] <Assembler> yes, system is booting and itś asking for the choices. But when i am trying to install the os it is showing some error msg.
[12:50] <Assembler> it is showing some kind of live run file missing.
[12:52] <Assembler> I tried is several times but again and again same message is displayed.
[13:44] <hajour> hai MichelleQ1
[14:32] <pip_> .
[14:48] <hajour> pip just ask your question:)
[14:50] <hajour> if you dont say it then they dont know what your problem is
[14:51] <pedro3005> hajour, maybe all his keys are broken except for  .
[14:52] <hajour> no pedro little afraid
[14:52] <hajour> pedro3005,  i mean
[14:52] <pedro3005> I was kidding, haakoo
[14:52] <pedro3005> hajour *
[14:53] <hajour> i now pedro3005 but pip maybe not
[14:54] <pedro3005> hajour, he was probably testing his client or something
[14:55] <hajour> pip have say :sad, can't install 11.04 alpha :-(
[14:57] <hajour> pedro3005,  above this line
[17:31] <br1_> hi!! guess somebody could help me??
[17:32] <br1_> hellooo??
[17:32] <br1_> anyone??
[17:33] <hajour> hai br1_
[17:33] <br1_> hi...
[17:33] <br1_> I just wanted to know how to delete a folder that has a lil lock on the up right corner
[17:33] <hajour> sometimes it takes a little bit of time for someone react.
[17:34] <br1_> guess those are locked for editing... everytime i try it says permission denied
[17:34] <br1_> or smth like that
[17:35] <hajour> better to asking your question right away.the one wo knows about it will respons
[17:35] <br1_> ok... so someone could please help me??
[17:37] <karthick87> br1_: what's the problem?
[17:37] <hajour> i have ask for you have a momeny ok?because i am not known very mutch from it
[17:38] <karthick87> br1_: if it is locked then try sudo rm -R /path/to/that/folder
[17:38] <karthick87> br1_: but what folder you are going to delete?
[17:39] <cap> I want to learn php.  Any good articles you guys recommend?  I also need something to help get a dev environment setup
[17:39] <br1_> I used testdisk to recover a pictures folder, it saved in home/user but now that i retrieved the pics I can not delete it!!
[17:40] <stlsaint_mobile> yo
[17:40] <Geocosm> sudo rm -R /home/user/FOLDERNAME
[17:40] <Geocosm> where FOLDERNAMe is the name of your pictures folder. :)
[17:41] <Geocosm> stlsaint_mobile St.L. like St. Louis?
[17:42] <br1_> oki'll try it rigt away
[17:44] <br1_> AWESOME!! you guys rock!!
[17:44] <br1_> now could you please tell me... what hapenned?
[17:46] <geekosopher> br1_: may be had to run that program as a root?
[17:47] <geekosopher> i meant the testdisk program
[17:48] <br1_> yeah... i'm kinda new to Ubuntu so...
[17:48] <br1_> but thank you very much guys fior your help
[17:49] <geekosopher> br1_: anytime... and its not difficult to learn ubuntu
[17:50] <karthick87> br1_: Glad it worked :)
[17:51] <geekosopher> I don't understand this... package 'gcc' installs gcc-4.4 when gcc-4.5 is already available! why?
[17:52] <pleia2> br1_: "root" is like the administrative user, they can do anything, so when you put "sudo" in front of a command it runs that command as the administrative "root" user
[17:53] <pleia2> geekosopher: gcc-4.5 isn't in ubuntu yet
[17:54] <geekosopher> apt-cache policy gcc-4.5 shows that 4.5.1 is there in main archives of maverick
[17:54] <geekosopher> pleia2: ^
[17:55] <pleia2> hmm
[17:55] <paultag> !info gcc natty
[17:55] <paultag> damn you, ubot2
[17:55] <ubot2> paultag: gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.97ubuntu3)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.5.1-1ubuntu3 (natty), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[17:55] <pleia2> yeah, oops, I had a typo in my search
[17:55] <pleia2> 4.4 is still the default in maverick
[17:55] <paultag> !info gcc maverick
[17:55] <geekosopher> paultag: didn't know you had to curse the bot to get the answer :D
[17:56] <pleia2> hehe
[17:56] <ubot2> paultag: gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.93ubuntu2)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.4-1ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[17:56] <paultag> geekosopher: you have to hurt it's feelings for it to justify an answer to you
[17:56] <paultag> +1 pleia2 :)
[17:56] <pleia2> morning, paultag!
[17:56] <paultag> pleia2: morning! :)
[17:58] <geekosopher> so whats the reason, paultag, pleia2 ? Is there any house secret?
[17:58] <tenach> G'morning everyone.
[17:58] <Silver_Fox_> o/
[17:59] <geekosopher> tenach: its time to say good night here :)
[17:59] <pleia2> geekosopher: versions only get into ubuntu once they are thoroughly tested and stable
[17:59] <pleia2> 4.5 doesn't seem to have made it in time
[17:59] <pleia2> now that maverick has been released, the version number won't change
[18:00] <tenach> o/ Silver_Fox_
[18:01] <Silver_Fox_> Hello tenach
[18:01] <tenach> geekosopher: even if I wake up in the middle of the night, I consider "morning" to be when I first wake up for my day :D
[18:01] <tenach> Long time no see, Silver_Fox_ :D  How are you?
[18:01] <geekosopher> oh, I see, since I just started looking at this, may be it was 4.4 at the time when maverick was being developed
[18:01] <pleia2> geekosopher: yep :)
[18:02] <geekosopher> ok, but now that 4.5 is there in main, I guess it is stable enough to be installed?
[18:02] <pleia2> yeah, you can install it
[18:03] <geekosopher> thanks for that
[18:03] <pleia2> it just won't be the default one that was used to compile everything else, so if you do something like compile a kernel module it won't build properly against the stock ubuntu kernel
[18:03] <pleia2> but for building you own stuff and other things from source, it should be fine :)
[18:03] <geekosopher> actually I am trying to teach myself C. Any pointers for online resources?
[18:04] <paultag> HA!
[18:04] <paultag> see that could be taken two ways
[18:04] <paultag> 0x0FADEAD0FBEEF
[18:04] <paultag> there you are
[18:04] <paultag> It's funny because C uses pointers
[18:04] <paultag> get it? Ha!
[18:04] <geekosopher> paultag: got it :)
[18:05] <paultag> geekosopher: http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~simhaweb/C/lectures/module1/module1.html
[18:09] <geekosopher> one more thing, I just read somewhere that C++ is more recent than C and has more functions and all... so should I be learning C++ so that it will involve learning C "plus" as bit more? What is used more linux environment?
[18:09] <paultag> geekosopher: no, C++ is more of a "fork"
[18:09] <paultag> geekosopher: it's C with objects and a slightly changed syntax
[18:09] <paultag> but valid C is valid C++
[18:10] <geekosopher> paultag: ok, thanks!
[18:10] <paultag> :)
[18:12] <geekosopher> just asking for an opinion here... being a non-tech guy, how should I go about learning programming?
[18:13] <pedro3005> paultag, I would have laugh had you not explained it
[18:13] <pedro3005> :P
[18:13] <geekosopher> many people say C is like the 'abc' of programming... and should be learnt first
[18:13] <pedro3005> laughed*
[18:13] <tenach> geekosopher: I disagree with that... haha.
[18:13] <pedro3005> geekosopher, my first language was python, I learned C after that
[18:14] <paultag> pedro3005: <3 :)
[18:14] <tenach> My first language was Visual Basic 6, then PHP... I'm now learning myself C
[18:14] <geekosopher> ok, so that breaks a myth
[18:15] <pedro3005> yeah, I bet paultag's first language was machine code
[18:15] <tenach> pedro3005: he *is* machine code, so I'd agree. Unless he doesn't know of/about himself, which I doubt.
[18:15] <tenach> ;D
[18:15] <pleia2> I find it's most useful to learn something that is useful to you at the time, my first programming was writing scripts for an IRC client, then web programming so I could make a site, etc etc
[18:16] <pedro3005> geekosopher, and tenach is giving php classes soon!
[18:16] <pleia2> I tried to learn java back in 2000, failed miserably because I didn't have a solid application for it
[18:16] <geekosopher> pedro3005: I would love to attend them
[18:16] <pedro3005> tenach, you should talk to pleia2 about the classes if you haven't already
[18:17] <pleia2> geekosopher: once they are scheduled, they'll pop up on http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html
[18:17] <tenach> pedro3005: what are you talking about?
[18:17] <pleia2> that's the ubuntu classroom calendar, has all upcoming class events (none scheduled right now, sad!)
[18:17] <geekosopher> pleia2: bookmarked that
[18:17] <pedro3005> tenach, she is in the classroom team
[18:18] <tenach> pedro3005: ah, right.
[18:19] <geekosopher> I already have a 'ubuntu learning events' calendar added to my list of google cals... is that different?
[18:19] <pleia2> tenach: yeah, just give me a nudge when you decide upon a time :)
[18:19] <pedro3005> tenach, you made me doubt my own sanity there
[18:19] <pleia2> geekosopher: oh, it's the same calendar :)
[18:19] <geekosopher> ok
[18:19] <tenach> pedro3005: <3 You're welcome.
[18:19] <pedro3005> geekosopher, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Academy/IntroToPython might be interesting to you if you decided to give python a chance
[18:20] <pedro3005> decide*
[18:20] <pedro3005> I fail at typing today
[18:20] <pleia2> python certainly is one of the most popular languages in the ubuntu community, and it's a good one to learn in general
[18:21] <geekosopher> so if any one programming language is not a stepping stone to programming, is there anything like programming concepts or fundamentals that I need to learn first?
[18:21] <tenach> You learn a lot about logic while programming, which carries across all languages (and even non-programming fields/daily life)
[18:21] <paultag> +10000
[18:22] <tenach> geekosopher: I would just say go in to learning with an open mind. There aren't necessarily any prerequisites.
[18:22] <pedro3005> yeah
[18:22] <geekosopher> ok
[18:22] <pedro3005> when you have a problem, stop and ask yourself
[18:22] <pedro3005> What would Guido do?
[18:22] <tenach> geekosopher: Other than a willingness to learn and be challenged with problems :)
[18:22] <pedro3005> :P
[18:22] <pleia2> pedro3005: haha
[18:23] <asterismo> hi people
[18:23] <asterismo> i have a problema
[18:23] <asterismo> problem
[18:24] <pleia2> !ask
[18:24] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[18:24] <geekosopher> yes, ubot2 answers that real fast
[18:25] <pedro3005> he's highly trained
[18:25] <pedro3005> studied for years in the buddhist schools of fast typing
[18:26] <geekosopher> oh, is it 'he'? be careful!
[18:26] <pleia2> I am pretty sure the ubot2s are female
[18:26] <pleia2> !gender
[18:26] <ubot2> yes, I can confirm I am a female bot :)
[18:26] <geekosopher> hehehe
[18:27] <pedro3005> my uhh.... s key got stuck
[18:27]  * pedro3005 hides
[18:27] <asterismo> with last updates on maverick, my keyboard lost the ability of type a character and keeping writing it when i hold the press in that character, i.e. for deleting an entire word, i have to press several times the backspace key, it stopped working the hold on and deleting...
[18:27] <geekosopher> rotfl
[18:29] <asterismo> anyone?
[18:29] <pleia2> asterismo: can you look at your keyboard preferences? there is an option for changing that behavior
[18:29] <pleia2> should be: system > preferences > keyboard
[18:31] <geekosopher> ok, gn guys (and gals) :)
[18:31] <pleia2> night geekosopher
[18:34] <tenach> Night geekosopher
[18:34] <asterismo> ok!
[18:34] <asterismo> it was activated! but not working...
[18:34] <asterismo> i switched on/off again
[18:34] <asterismo> and it worls now
[18:34] <asterismo> works now
[18:35] <asterismo> thanks pleia2
[18:35] <asterismo> !thanks
[18:35] <ubot2> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[18:35] <pleia2> sounds like the update just did something a little funny, glad it's working now :)
[18:35] <asterismo> yeah
[18:35] <asterismo> btw
[18:36] <asterismo> does anybody uses PCSX2 for PlayStation 2 emulation?
[18:38] <asterismo> my 5 year old son wants to play with a cartoon network character Ben10 and the only game i could find is for nintendo DS and PS2
[18:39] <asterismo> the nintendo DS is quite low resolution and tried to make PCSX2 run, but i have trouble for setting up the bios files
[18:39] <asterismo> i downloaded some bios files but don't know exactly what they mean, or how many files should i put in the /bios directory
[18:40] <asterismo> it keeps segfault, or freezing the app
[18:44] <pedro3005> hmm, sorry, I've never ran it
[19:17] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[19:17] <kristian-aalborg> I can't wrap my head around getting mpd to stream on my laptop
[19:18] <kristian-aalborg> I have it on the desktop already
[19:50] <Geocosm> What's MPD?
[19:51] <bioterror> music player daemon
[19:57] <Geocosm> Ah never used it. I use PS3 Media Server to stream stuff to my PS3.
[20:28] <stlsaint_mobile> hey folks
[20:30] <bioterror> hi
[20:30] <nlsthzn> hello :)
[21:17] <stlsaint_mobile> quiet
[22:44] <x77a1> how to install x sensors on ubuntu 10.10
[22:44] <x77a1> ????
[22:47] <geirha> By installing the xsensors package I would assume. There's one in Ubuntu 10.04 at least, have you looked for it in Ubuntu 10.10?
[22:47] <geirha> In   Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center   that is
[22:50] <x77a1> its not downloadinf
[22:50] <x77a1> giving someerrors
[22:51] <geirha> What errors?
[22:52] <x77a1> its saying could not find the package
[22:52] <geirha> Hm. Could be the downloaded package lists are out of date
[22:53] <x77a1> hmm
[22:53] <aveilleux> x77a1: Try running this command in Terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lm-sensors xsensors
[22:55] <x77a1> ya got it ty
[22:56] <aveilleux> x77a1: You're welcome. Sometimes packages in th--
[22:56] <aveilleux> Oh.... :c
[23:01]  * paultag hugs aveilleux 
[23:01] <paultag> aveilleux: you rule.
[23:01] <aveilleux> I know.
[23:01] <aveilleux> I mean, thanks paultag :P
[23:01] <paultag> aveilleux: I can't count how many times that happens to me :)
[23:01] <aveilleux> paultag: It's depressing, but understandable,
[23:01] <aveilleux> .
[23:01] <paultag> yeah
[23:01] <paultag> some people
[23:18] <tenach> Yeah...
[23:32] <bodhizazen> paultag: poke
[23:33] <tenach> He just bbl'd me
[23:33] <tenach> bodhizazen: ^
[23:35] <bodhizazen> Ah thanks tenach
[23:35] <firewall_03> whats up everybody?
[23:35] <tenach> Hello firewall_03 :)
[23:37] <firewall_03> this place was pretty dead over the weekend
[23:39] <tenach> It happens sometimes.
[23:41] <firewall_03> I wasn't complaining just trollin around
[23:57] <cap> is there a command like "xdg-open" that will allow a program to become active?