[13:42] <heavylildude> hi all
[13:42] <heavylildude> i'm looking for ubuntu-indonesia channel?
[13:42] <Pici> heavylildude: Thats #ubuntu-id
[13:42] <heavylildude> sorry if this is inappropriate questions
[13:43] <Pici> Nope, its a fine question for here.
[13:43] <heavylildude> aah thanks
[14:52] <rusivi> Hello may I please have a Ubuntu Cloak? Launchpad profile -> https://launchpad.net/~rusivi2
[14:54] <rusivi> I was referred to this channel by -> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-cloaks
[14:55] <k1l> Pici, jussi , nhandler , topyli , tsimpson  one of them should be the right guy for the job
[14:56] <cdbs> rusivi: I don't see that you are an Ubuntu Member
[14:56] <cdbs> !membership | rusivi
[14:56] <Pici> Agreed, sorry :(
[14:57] <rusivi> cdbs/Pici: K let me check that thanks
[14:58] <cdbs> Pici: Are there any types of cloaks for non-members? The ~ubuntu-irc-cloaks team description has a tone which may give the impression that there are some
[14:58] <Pici> cdbs: There are not.
[14:58] <Pici> The only Ubuntu cloaks that exist are those for members and those for official Ubuntu bots.
[14:59] <cdbs> Pici: Then it would be better to modify the team description
[14:59] <tsimpson> cdbs: which part do you find confusing?
[14:59] <cdbs> tsimpson: Alternatively, you can apply for membership to this team, but please specify your Launchpad address and your freenode nickname in the application request, and ensure that the nickname is set up as per all steps recommended at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup"
[15:00] <Pici> Hrm.
[15:00] <tsimpson> that could be misinterpreted, yeah
[15:00] <cdbs> Anyone reading the para for the first time might feel like that
[15:01] <rusivi> cdbs: I definitely feel confused as e-mailing the ubuntu-irc-cloaks team was about to be my next move...
[15:03] <rusivi> tsimpson: ^
[15:03] <tsimpson> I think moving that sentence should be all that's required: "If you are an Ubuntu Member and would like a cloak, you can ask in the freenode channel #ubuntu-irc. Alternatively, you can apply for membership to this team, but please specify your Launchpad address and your freenode nickname in the application request, and ensure that the nickname is set up as per all steps recommended at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup. You can find more
[15:03] <tsimpson> information about ubuntu cloaks at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Cloaks .
[15:04] <cdbs> tsimpson: I think that part was existant from the time this team was Moderated and not Restricted
[15:05] <Pici> I think that we should remove the mention of people applying for the team.
[15:05] <cdbs> Now that its restricted, there is no way for a person to apply but come on this channel
[15:05] <cdbs> Pici: +1
[15:05] <tsimpson> yepp
[15:07] <rusivi> tsimpson: I like the suggestion, the only thing that would eliminate further ambiguity would be -> "If you are an Ubuntu Member ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership ) and would like a cloak, you can ask in the freenode channel #ubuntu-irc. Alternatively, you can apply for membership to this team, but please specify your Launchpad address and your freenode nickname in the application request, and ensure that the nickname is set up
[15:07] <rusivi>  as per all steps recommended at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup. You can find more information about ubuntu cloaks at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Cloaks."
[15:08] <tsimpson> I didn't realise that you actually cannot apply to the team, so the sentence should be removed altogether
[15:08] <cdbs> rusivi: There is no way to apply, so removing is the best choice
[15:08] <rusivi> cdbs: sounds good!
[15:09] <cdbs> The only way to get a cloak is to come to this channel and ask for a cloak, and henceforth you will be checked if you are Ubuntu member
[19:14] <jussi> lubotu3: join #ubuntu-rs
[20:11] <vorian> can we get kubuntu cloaks
[20:26] <vorian> i see, the whole ignore and hope someone else answers routine
[20:28] <IdleOne> vorian: I think you need to ask a Kubuntu group contact about that
[20:28] <IdleOne> not sure who they are, #kubuntu-ops maybe can help?
[20:29] <vorian> IdleOne: there are no kubuntu gc's
[20:29] <IdleOne> hmm
[20:29] <IdleOne> what does the kubuntu membership wiki say?
[20:29] <vorian> the irc council executed a coup
[20:29] <IdleOne> lol
[20:29] <vorian> nothing
[20:29] <vorian> :
[20:30] <IdleOne> kubuntu has it's own council
[20:32] <m4v> kubuntu members don't use the regular ubuntu/member cloaks?
[20:33] <Pici> I don't recall the last time we gave out a Kubuntu cloak.
[20:36] <m4v> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Membership mentions  you can request an "ubuntu/members/your_nick" cloak
[20:38] <m4v> though there's a typo in the "members" part ...
[20:38] <jussi> Im pretty sure it was policy to only give out ubuntu/member cloaks.
[20:41] <jussi> I dont think we currently have any kubuntu cloaks - and the policy was in place because if we go giving out kubuntu/member, then we need to do xubuntu/member edubuntu/member etc (possibly other reasons also, but I need to double check)
[20:42] <Pici> /who kubuntu/member/* doesn't report anything for me.
[20:46]  * vish thinks vorian asked this similar question about 6months back.. ;) 
[20:46] <vish> when previously asking for the /ubuntu/member cloak
[20:47] <vish> err, rather when switching cloaks