| ubottu | In #ubuntu, bisanthe said: ubottu: no no, there is no problem with md5 | 00:11 |
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| Jordan_U | How do I access the ban tracker? | 04:31 |
| tonyyarusso | @btlogin | 04:31 |
| rww | Jordan_U: type @login in PM with ubottu or in an ubottu channel, then @btlogin. If you're set up properly, it should PM you a URL | 04:31 |
| tonyyarusso | Of course, if you do @btlogin before @login, it just ignores you :P | 04:32 |
| tonyyarusso | And it will forget your @login after a while even if you don't /quit (1 day?) | 04:32 |
| Jordan_U | rww: Thanks. | 04:32 |
| Jordan_U | I really like how it shows the recent logs from that time. | 04:33 |
| rww | Jordan_U: probably best to keep the URL in a bookmark or something, assuming you're the only one who uses your account. and keep the URL private, since it's your login credential. | 04:33 |
| Jordan_U | How long should I keep a ban on a blatant troll? | 04:38 |
| rww | depends on the op and the person. as I understand it, generally until they find their way to #ubuntu-ops or your PM window and agree to not act up in the future | 04:41 |
| Jordan_U | No communication from them (at least with me, and I set the ban). But eventually the ban list will fill up, correct? | 04:43 |
| rww | yup. at which point you look at your bans, judge which can be removed, and remove them | 04:44 |
| rww | we're looking at a few months before it fills up again, I think. I grabbed the graph of bans in #ubuntu over time and drew lines on it, and it came out to 3 months before we hit maximum | 04:44 |
| rww | http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/ircbans-year.png , the big drop is when all the uncommented bans got cleared out about a month ago | 04:46 |
| rww | (and 3 months was a conservative estimate) | 04:46 |
| * rww sighs at -offtopic | 05:52 | |
| ikonia | who lets these fools into #ubuntu-offtopic | 08:10 |
| ikonia | we need some sort of topic in that channel or a better set of guidelines | 08:10 |
| ikonia | I know it's been said before, but it's just rubbish | 08:10 |
| elky | which? | 08:11 |
| ikonia | pretty much all of them | 08:11 |
| * elky is prioritising pizza before reading backscroll | 08:11 | |
| ikonia | wise | 08:11 |
| rww | I wonder if setting +r would help any. Seems like a lot of the crazies don't bother registering with NickServ. | 08:12 |
| ikonia | yes yes yes yes yes yes yes | 08:12 |
| elky | lol | 08:12 |
| rww | I've suggested it before in jest, but the more I think about it, the less of a bad idea it seems :\ | 08:13 |
| elky | careful rww, you're getting him excited again, and i'm too busy eating pizza to clean up the puddle. | 08:13 |
| maco | i took pills and ate pizza bagel bites today. it was yummy | 08:14 |
| IdleOne | the pills or the pizza? | 08:14 |
| maco | the pizza | 08:14 |
| elky | the pills let her eat the pizza | 08:14 |
| maco | the pills tasted like chalk but made the pizza edible | 08:14 |
| IdleOne | oh, well then that is good | 08:14 |
| rww | oh, I thought they let her deal with #ubuntu-offtopic. totally took the wrong interpretation there. | 08:14 |
| elky | rww to be honest though, if we could be assured by the ircc that taking a hard stance in -ot would be actively backed up by them, that'd be more effective than making it +r. a toy bot with decent rate limiting would also help as a distraction | 08:17 |
| elky | we used to be able to derail about 70% of bickering by pulling out bofh, chuck, t, etc | 08:17 |
| IdleOne | I miss lart | 08:19 |
| IdleOne | lart was nice | 08:19 |
| IdleOne | IRCC bring back the lart in -ot | 08:19 |
| elky | lart less so... | 08:19 |
| rww | IRCC please ignore IdleOne, he's had too much to drink | 08:19 |
| IdleOne | I have not | 08:19 |
| maco | is there still hammertime? | 08:20 |
| elky | !hammertime | 08:20 |
| ubottu | ━━▊ ━━▊ ━━▊ | 08:20 |
| maco | excellent | 08:20 |
| elky | limited use, it's not the shiny random ooh-what-will-be-next effect | 08:20 |
| rww | IdleOne: it was rather hard to get certain people to stop using rather unfriendly /me commands when they could point to ubottu hitting people with a baseball bat. | 08:20 |
| elky | yeah | 08:21 |
| elky | you're up against /that/ mental age | 08:21 |
| maco | i liked it when ubottu divided people by zero | 08:22 |
| elky | a limited lart list might work | 08:22 |
| elky | there were some really awful ones in there by the end | 08:22 |
| IdleOne | I think heavier handed use of +b might be good | 08:23 |
| rww | I think it'd probably be possible to CoCify @lart, yes. | 08:23 |
| elky | i think so too | 08:23 |
| elky | IdleOne, no, +m | 08:23 |
| elky | there's nothing mission critical about -ot. mute the bejeebus out of it imho | 08:23 |
| elky | but the ircc may disagree | 08:23 |
| rww | (previous statement does not imply that CoCifying it and bringing it back is a good idea ;) | 08:24 |
| elky | what do we have to lose. the off button is easier than the on button | 08:25 |
| rww | Perhaps we should declare December to be National #ubuntu-offtopic Experiment Month. One week of +r, one week of looser interpretations of various !guidelines... ;D | 08:25 |
| Myrtti | rww, Jordan_U, tonyyarusso just a reminder if you haven't seen it, bantracker has SSL now, ubottu isn't aware of it yet but replacing the http with https should work | 08:26 |
| Flannel | rww: One week of -c! | 08:26 |
| Myrtti | the certificate is selfsigned but still | 08:26 |
| rww | Myrtti: Yes, I updated my link copypasta accordingly. Thanks for poking people into doing it :) | 08:26 |
| elky | rww i think january is better, it's the gone-to-hell-please-schools-take-them-back month here. | 08:26 |
| Jordan_U | Myrtti: How does authentication work? | 08:27 |
| elky | Myrtti, ohai! you're really really back? :D | 08:27 |
| Myrtti | Jordan_U: authenticate as usual with ubottu, copypaste the address from it to your browser, replace http to https and rock and rll | 08:27 |
| Myrtti | elky: for time being | 08:28 |
| rww | On the first day of Christmas, IRCC gave to me, +r in #ubuntu-offtopic. On the second day of Christmas, IRCC gave to me two hours of +m, and +r in #ubuntu-offtopic. On the third day of Christmas, IRCC gave to me bans for three crazies, two hours of +m, and +r in #ubuntu-offtopic... | 08:28 |
| elky | lol | 08:29 |
| rww | By the time we get to the twelfth day of Christmas, I expect tonyyarusso to be the only one able to talk in there. | 08:29 |
| Jordan_U | I thought that URLs were still sent in plain text with https, but I just checked and it appears they aren't. | 08:30 |
| tonyyarusso | haha | 08:30 |
| Jordan_U | rww: And? | 08:31 |
| rww | or perhaps add "subjecting the channel to nonsense" before "other attention-seeking behavior" :\ | 08:39 |
| rww | in the IRC guidelines, that is | 08:39 |
| rww | although that sentence needs rewording as it is, even without additions. | 08:40 |
| Jordan_U | I don't spend much time in #ubuntu-offtopic I think trying to limit "nonsense" is too subjective, and not really apropriate for an "off topic" channel. | 08:41 |
| rww | There's a qualitative difference between off-topic discussion and the sort of problematic behavior that happens in there, though. | 08:43 |
| tonyyarusso | I'll subject you to nonsense like there's no tomorrow! | 08:43 |
| tonyyarusso | See my jabberwocky-esque rambling a few months ago :P | 08:44 |
| rww | Anyways, I have to go to sleep. Have fun in opland :) | 08:44 |
| elky | liar, you never sleep. | 08:45 |
| Flannel | tonyyarusso: gyre and gimbling toves to you too! | 08:45 |
| rww | I have work at 08:00. It is currently 00:45 :( | 08:45 |
| tonyyarusso | I'll go to your work work if you do my homework. | 08:45 |
| elky | well that's silly of you | 08:45 |
| Flannel | elky: tonyyarusso just wants to get out of the snow | 08:46 |
| Jordan_U | rww: Hey, we're in the same time zone. | 08:46 |
| tonyyarusso | nah, I'd like to get out in the snow instead of being stuck inside doing dumbness. | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | i'll do the homework if someone else wants to sit on hold to NAB to get them to get them to deliver my card either to my house, or a branch close to me, instead of in anothe state. | 08:47 |
| elky | lol | 08:48 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not going to melbourne to pick up a card! | 08:48 |
| elky | the same NAB that got pretty seriously fubared recently? | 08:48 |
| Hobbsee | that's the one | 08:48 |
| elky | you couldn't leave quick enough? | 08:49 |
| Hobbsee | wasn't particularly affected, actually | 08:49 |
| Hobbsee | but, card due to name change | 08:49 |
| elky | of course | 08:49 |
| Hobbsee | besides, westpac and c/w are out, so not much in the way of other choice | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | that might be any better | 08:50 |
| elky | and why exactly do they think you're in melbourne? | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | i've no idea. | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | they called me about another card, which had landed in melbourne for some reason, and wanted to know where i'd like to pick it up | 08:50 |
| tonyyarusso | name change? | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | yeah - got married | 08:50 |
| tonyyarusso | Good lord you've been away a while... | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | if they drop all calls at 8 when their call centre closes, i'm not going to be happy... | 08:51 |
| * tonyyarusso continues trying to process | 08:53 | |
| elky | process what? | 08:53 |
| tonyyarusso | That Hobbsee got married! | 08:54 |
| elky | nah, it's not really that surprising if you've been in the right circles. | 08:54 |
| jussi | Happy Finnish independence day everyone!!! | 08:54 |
| tonyyarusso | Last time I talked to her I don't even know if she was seeing anyone. Feeling massively out of loop. | 08:54 |
| tonyyarusso | jussi: Wooooo! Finally got the Swedes and Russians occupied with other things at the same time, eh? :P | 08:55 |
| jussi | tonyyarusso: 93 years old she is! :D | 08:55 |
| Myrtti | here's a thought: someone should send an email about the bugtracker being available with SSL | 08:57 |
| jussi | lol, check out picture 3 - do you not think it looks like Mark? http://is.gd/ihny8 | 09:00 |
| Hobbsee | tonyyarusso: it was kept pretty quiet | 09:02 |
| elky | jussi, heh at a glance yeah | 09:05 |
| elky | jussi, ack... 4th at a glance is a splitting image of my evil brother | 09:07 |
| jussi | heh | 09:07 |
| jussi | now I dare anyone to write a blogpost that hits planet with that picture in it... :P | 09:07 |
| elky | "Jussi dared me to do this <img..." | 09:08 |
| Jordan_U | jussi: You're a wonderfull catalyst ;) | 09:08 |
| Hobbsee | right, sorted. they're now ordering all the cards again | 09:09 |
| elky | Jordan_U, if he keeps up, next year he'll qualify for the gold spoon of stirring. | 09:09 |
| elky | Hobbsee, lolwat? not redirect... reorder? | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | elky: apparently it's quicker to reorder them and send them to parramatta | 09:10 |
| elky | ... | 09:10 |
| * Hobbsee shrugs | 09:10 | |
| Hobbsee | at least i can use the old ones | 09:10 |
| jussi | I have to go an order new cards for me also - cancelled mine when I lost my wallet, then found my wallet... | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear | 09:12 |
| jussi | the short version of the long story is, my car broke down. tow truck came to get me, and delivered me home. wallet fell out in the tow truck, I thought it was gone for ever, then I cancelled the cards. then the tow truck guy called me... | 09:13 |
| Hobbsee | makes perfect sense | 09:17 |
| Myrtti | I think grub and grub2 factoids should be separated | 09:39 |
| elky | why didn't you order new cards when you cancelled the old ones | 09:42 |
| elky | because whenever i have to cancel a card i'm all like plz to send me new card right away because i need the moneys it dispenses | 09:42 |
| Jordan_U | Myrtti: I agree. They were untill recently. | 09:44 |
| jussi | elky: cant do that here, theres is a central card agency, that provides the 24h service for card cancellation and forwards it to the bank. then you need to go back to the bank and order cards. | 11:07 |
| elky | that's a bit broken then | 11:07 |
| topyli | jussi: i've done that too | 11:11 |
| topyli | i canceled cards, found my wallet an hour later | 11:12 |
| jussi | I dont have a real problem with the system | 11:12 |
| jpds | 1) Don't lose your cards. | 11:12 |
| jpds | 2) ... | 11:12 |
| jussi | given my bqank is open a lot more than normal banks (its part of a shopping chain) (well one of my banks) | 11:12 |
| topyli | i have also called my provider to shut down my phone, then found the phone a couple of hours later | 11:12 |
| jpds | 3) Profit. | 11:12 |
| jussi | topyli: thing is, provider can just pause it, then re-open | 11:13 |
| jussi | bank wont do that with the cards | 11:13 |
| topyli | no you have to get a new sim when they close it | 11:13 |
| topyli | or do you? i don't remember, this is not a recent memory | 11:14 |
| jussi | topyli: if they close it yes, but they can just block outgoing calls if need be. | 11:14 |
| tsimpson | usually they block the phone by IMIE, afik | 11:16 |
| tsimpson | *IMEI | 11:16 |
| topyli | when you report a stolen phone to the police, they will blacklist the phone by IMEI (so that reselling is more difficult). but if you simply lose your phone, they disable the sim | 11:18 |
| topyli | and start asking you what sort of phone you would like to upgrade to | 11:18 |
| ubottu | Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (i5noc) | 12:05 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from i5noc) | 12:05 |
| Myrtti | oh lord | 12:05 |
| Myrtti | volunteers for this mess? | 12:06 |
| Myrtti | I need to go soon and I suspect mopping up may take longer than I've got time | 12:06 |
| ikonia | what's up | 12:23 |
| Myrtti | i5noc | 12:24 |
| Myrtti | he's apparently banned from #debian atm, and Gnea is having trouble with him | 12:24 |
| ikonia | dvanstone: is a pain too | 12:24 |
| Myrtti | he's been a nuisance the past few days but I've not been able to nail him from anything | 12:25 |
| Myrtti | and having said that, I need to go | 12:25 |
| ikonia | someone else had a problem with him yesterday | 12:25 |
| ikonia | ta ta | 12:25 |
| ikonia | why do people ask if something will work, then when you tell them "no" they carry on saying they will make it work, if that's the idea, then why ask | 12:46 |
| popey | People are idiots. Film at 11. | 12:48 |
| ikonia | I gues | 12:48 |
| ikonia | guess | 12:48 |
| Pici | rww: re: 12 days of #ubuntu-ops christmas, I actually started writing one over the weekend. | 12:52 |
| Pici | http://pastebin.com/WhjR3B7J | 12:53 |
| * Pici clearly has too much free time. | 12:55 | |
| knome | lawl | 12:57 |
| knome | rofl | 12:57 |
| * LjL pulls the carpet from under Pici | 12:57 | |
| topyli | hahaha | 13:03 |
| topyli | Pici: make that public | 13:03 |
| Hobbsee | Pici: rofl | 13:03 |
| Pici | let me polish it a little more and I'll throw it up on the blag | 13:07 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas said: !enter =~ s/punctuation/spacebar or punctuation/ | 13:13 |
| Myrtti | 9 noobies gnawing | 15:34 |
| Myrtti | the prize of "Who can type nicknames worst" goes to: [17:50] < dsquared2> mrytii.. | 15:51 |
| Myrtti | !pm > xCasualty | 15:52 |
| Myrtti | there might be some trolls on the channel atm | 15:58 |
| Myrtti | my spider senses are tingling | 15:58 |
| Myrtti | yeah... excess flooded themselves off | 16:01 |
| Pici | meh | 16:46 |
| IdleOne | you saw that also huh | 16:46 |
| IdleOne | :) | 16:47 |
| Myrtti | hm. | 16:48 |
| Pici | He sent me a pm before after I told him that he was in the support channel. | 16:48 |
| Myrtti | Pici: may I pm? | 16:49 |
| Pici | Myrtti: me? Always. | 16:49 |
| Pici | Well, not *all* the time. That would be annoying. | 16:49 |
| IdleOne | heh | 16:50 |
| * Myrtti drops the towel at Elgar | 16:53 | |
| IdleOne | can't even paste a url proper so it is easily clickable :/ | 16:56 |
| Myrtti | you're just using a bad terminal app/IRC client | 16:56 |
| Myrtti | terminator works fine :-) | 16:57 |
| IdleOne | I am | 16:57 |
| IdleOne | ? | 16:57 |
| jussi | Peoples, if you see a serbian factoid requested (from #ubuntu-rs), please check it is requested by an op there (/msg chanserv access #ubuntu-rs list) - if so, fee free to add channel specific factoids for them. | 19:23 |
| Myrtti | I have a nagging feeling I've forgotten something really, really important | 20:35 |
| IdleOne | the oven on? | 20:37 |
| IdleOne | lock the front door? | 20:37 |
| IdleOne | OMG the baby! where's the baby!? | 20:37 |
| IdleOne | :P | 20:37 |
| Myrtti | I have actually forgotten the hob on while traveling 50km away from it | 20:37 |
| Myrtti | and remembering it 2 hours later | 20:38 |
| IdleOne | the hob? | 20:38 |
| Myrtti | electric hob. | 20:38 |
| Pici | Whats a hob? | 20:38 |
| IdleOne | what's a hob? | 20:38 |
| Myrtti | silly Americans | 20:38 |
| Pici | IdleOne is Canadian. | 20:38 |
| IdleOne | I am CANADIAN | 20:38 |
| IdleOne | so what is it? | 20:39 |
| Pici | I'm curious now. | 20:39 |
| Myrtti | cooktop | 20:39 |
| IdleOne | probably a stove/oven | 20:39 |
| Myrtti | sorry, my laptop froze | 20:39 |
| IdleOne | hob is short for what? | 20:39 |
| IdleOne | how do you get hob from cooktop? | 20:40 |
| Myrtti | "In modern British English usage, the word refers to a cooktop or hotplate, as distinguished from an oven." | 20:40 |
| IdleOne | you crazy UKians | 20:40 |
| Myrtti | OY! | 20:40 |
| IdleOne | ahh, hotplate | 20:40 |
| Myrtti | I'm FINNISH! (with a British partner) | 20:40 |
| IdleOne | you don't have to get all upset :( | 20:41 |
| IdleOne | was just asking, sheesh. Finnishians :P | 20:41 |
| Myrtti | I have no idea. I use the language, I don't create it | 20:42 |
| Pici | I'm going to start using the word 'hob'. | 20:42 |
| Myrtti | it's such a homey word | 20:43 |
| jussi | is a hob a bit like hobnob? :D | 20:43 |
| IdleOne | it will certainly get you some looks in your daily life | 20:43 |
| Myrtti | mmmm hobnobs.... | 20:43 |
| Pici | or is that hobknobs? | 20:43 |
| IdleOne | turn down the hobknob | 20:43 |
| Pici | Google has a lot of unrelated definitions for hob. | 20:44 |
| * charlie-tca has the whole stove here, not just the top | 20:44 | |
| Pici | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define:+hob | 20:44 |
| Myrtti | hm, I sure hope whatever is happening in #freenode doesn't spread to #ubuntu | 20:48 |
| LjL | certainly won't while it's +r | 20:53 |
| Myrtti | I still have a nagging feeling I've forgotten something important, and it's not about IRC | 20:54 |
| Myrtti | arggghhh | 20:54 |
| IdleOne | Myrtti: don't worry about it and it will come to you | 20:54 |
| Myrtti | I suppose I should check my worklaptop about what it might be | 20:56 |
| Myrtti | !9.10 | 20:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 | 20:58 |
| Pici | not eol yet :( | 20:58 |
| Myrtti | !grub2 | 20:59 |
| ubottu | GRUB is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 20:59 |
| Myrtti | hm | 20:59 |
| Myrtti | so in karmic it already was grub2? | 20:59 |
| * Myrtti counts with fingers | 21:00 | |
| tonyyarusso | yes | 21:49 |
| * tonyyarusso giggles at Planet | 22:01 | |
| tonyyarusso | "Loco with huge member" - oh, you DIDN'T mean .us? Huh. | 22:02 |
| tonyyarusso | *members, rather | 22:02 |
| tonyyarusso | Apparently it's an English fail, and they mean they have a lot of members, not that their members like McDonald's a little too much. | 22:03 |
| LjL | i was thinking of yet another meaning... | 22:03 |
| tonyyarusso | Bad LjL! | 22:08 |
| Myrtti | someone has been watching too much Austin Powers | 22:10 |
| Myrtti | I'm the first one to confess. | 22:10 |
| tonyyarusso | Any Austin Powers is too much Austin Powers. | 22:10 |
| IdleOne | I didn't op myself | 22:57 |
| IdleOne | why did my client op me | 22:58 |
| Myrtti | magic! | 23:05 |
| charlie-tca | one of them "smartclients"? | 23:05 |
| Myrtti | is it just me or is -ot a total sausage fest right now? | 23:07 |
| Myrtti | ah, now they've moved on to talking about hardware | 23:10 |
| elky | Myrtti, pretty much down to comparing, yeah. | 23:22 |
| Myrtti | I should stop knitting and watching Attenborough and go to bed | 23:23 |
| rww | Statistically, -ot is a sausagefest :( | 23:25 |
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