[00:00] thx qman__ [00:07] Uh.. Why does the JRE install want to add things like X11.. Gnome.. [00:07] I just want the java cli compiler. [00:20] Slyboots, did you try with --no-install-recommends? [00:21] also, pretty sure you want the -headless option [00:22] openjdk-6-jre-headless - OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT (headless) [00:26] Hmm.. let me try it now [00:26] Yea thats a lot better :D [00:34] Thanks :) [01:03] testing [01:14] <_Techie_> is it possible to have ubuntu-server setup as a router with the modem and wireless connected to the same NIC? [01:15] _Techie_: you mean you have a wireless AP and a commodity appliance modem, and you want to plug both of those, plus your server, into a 802.1 ethernet switch? [01:16] <_Techie_> yes [01:16] <_Techie_> im too broke to buy another NIC atm [01:16] technically possible, but you're going to have lots of DHCP issues [01:16] as all the traffic from the internet is going to be floating around on your switch [01:17] <_Techie_> i dont use the dhcp on my modem [01:17] no [01:17] you may or may not get DHCP from your ISP [01:17] and may or may not use it on your LAN [01:17] but if you do, in either case, it will interfere [01:17] <_Techie_> i use a half bridge, and my external IP and routing is manually configured on my server [01:18] so you're not sharing the internet connection? [01:22] anyway, it is technically possible, but you're still going to have internet traffic on the wire throughout [01:22] <_Techie_> meh, not a problem [01:22] which is a bad idea security wise [01:22] <_Techie_> i dont use the wireless anyway [01:24] and what I was getting at is, anything attached to that switch will all have to be manually configured, as you won't be able to firewall DHCP out [01:24] <_Techie_> wait [01:24] <_Techie_> why will they have to be manually configured? [01:24] because DHCP is DHCP [01:24] anything connected that asks for a lease is going to ask your entire ISP for one [01:25] <_Techie_> my modem is only acting in half bridge, and ive since disabled the DHCP on it [01:25] I don't know what you mean by that [01:27] it's either letting traffic through or it isn't [01:27] unless it's a sophisticated firewall appliance, in which case I have to wonder why you're doing this anyway [01:28] <_Techie_> its a astandard DSL modem+ router with DHCP spoofing [01:28] spoofing? [01:28] <_Techie_> it is spoofing a dhcp server inside the network that contains the external ip [01:29] that's not spoofing, but ok [01:29] <_Techie_> its a weird topic and is hard to find the proper terms [01:29] anyway [01:29] any time a computer comes online, it's going to make a DHCP request [01:30] unless that unit differentiates by MAC, it's going to give it out [01:30] <_Techie_> the DHCP on the modem has since been disabled [01:30] <_Techie_> i moved the configuration to be static on my servers NIC [01:30] ok, but the other problem is, if it's in a bridging mode, your switch is now in the internet [01:31] and your DHCP requests will go to the other side, unless that device is sophisticated enough to filter them out [01:31] <_Techie_> it is sophisticated in a way [01:31] <_Techie_> it was originally setup as a normal home ADSL modem/router [01:32] <_Techie_> so it would normally pick up DHCP requests and assign them 192.168.1.X [01:32] <_Techie_> so DHCP getting through to the internet wont happen [01:33] that doesn't mean anything [01:33] when you change to bridged mode, all that goes away [01:33] it doesn't route anymore, so unless it has a decent operating firewall, they'll still get through [01:34] <_Techie_> it does route [01:34] <_Techie_> its not fully bridged [01:34] <_Techie_> it still uses NAT and everything [01:35] <_Techie_> it just extends the external IP to an internal machine using the inbuilt DHCP server which has since been disabled [01:35] that's not technically possible [01:35] <_Techie_> it is [01:36] there's no point to it, either [01:36] <_Techie_> there is if you live somewhere like me, where you cant get cable internet or a PPPoE connection [01:37] <_Techie_> or even a decent modem without spending mega bucks [01:37] no, I mean to providing such a function [01:37] there's no point in having your external IP assigned internally and simultaneously assigning private addressing [01:37] you might as well just use the DMZ setting [01:38] it's a lot less complicated and doesn't violate the principles of routing [01:39] <_Techie_> well i use it to make managing my server slightly easier as it appears to be connected directly to the internet [01:40] sounds like a security nightmare [01:40] anyway, you could do what you were asking, but it's complicated [01:40] you need two virtual interfaces on your server [01:41] well, subinterfaces [01:41] eth0:0, eth0:1, etc [01:41] that is, if you want to do the routing through your server [01:42] which I'm assuming is the reason you want to [01:43] <_Techie_> im going to try get away with one [01:43] <_Techie_> eth0-my comp eth1-modem with eth1:0 being the wifi [01:44] you have two interfaces? [01:44] then just use them [01:44] put the AP on the inside [01:44] <_Techie_> its sort of the reason [01:45] <_Techie_> 2 NIC's [01:45] <_Techie_> one 10/100 and the other gigabit [01:45] <_Techie_> and all my network hardware is 10/100 [01:46] <_Techie_> and i want to be able to use the gigabit link to link my pc and the server for streaming HD content from the media shares [01:46] <_Techie_> up untill today is was using a 10/100 switch connected to the gigabit of the server [01:48] <_Techie_> which was all nice, it kept my LAN inside a secure area, but cut off the ability to use the gigabit link [01:48] ok [01:49] well, it's still not a good setup, but you can do it that way [01:49] however, I have to warn you [01:49] a setup using eth1 and eth1:0 at the same time has never worked for me [01:49] always had to de-configure eth1 and use eth1:0 and eth1:1 [01:52] and I would still advise against using DHCP on that part of the link [01:52] is your wireless AP a wireless router, or just an AP? [01:53] <_Techie_> doign this also frees up 10m of cable [01:53] <_Techie_> as it removes the need for the reverse link providing a connection for wireless users [01:53] if it's a wireless router I suggest going that route instead of AP mode === __Techie__ is now known as _Techie_ [01:54] if your wireless AP is actually a wireless router, I suggest using it for providing DHCP to the wireless clients [01:54] to keep the DHCP traffic off of that interface on your server [01:55] trusting your DSL modem/router to protect you from that trouble is risky [01:56] up to you, though [02:03] Can someone tell me how I can have my dhcp server update the hostname of a client? I've seen this done on other networks, but I can't find the right directive for my host entries... [02:10] nevermind === asac_ is now known as asac [03:41] Why does lucid have both /etc/init/ssh.conf and /etc/init.d/ssh ? [03:46] New bug: #685724 in openvpn (main) "openvpn server loses internet after bridge activation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685724 [03:53] twb: b/c upstart can't handle sshd running in a chroot [03:54] Ah, looks like the init.d ssh is not enabled by default [03:55] I can live with that [04:00] I have an Ubuntu router with console=/dev/ttyS0, and that serial port is cabled to ttyUSB0 on a server. [04:00] An Ubuntu server, that is. [04:00] What's the "right" way to have the server log ttyUSB0? [04:01] log all activity ? [04:01] bc you'll have the console there man [04:02] cokegen: basically I want the output of ttyUSB0 (particularly the printks) to be logged into /var/log somewhere. [04:02] Obviously I'll need a way to *stop* that logging so I can do "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200" when I need to control the router via console. [04:04] I was trying to find a way to "split" the serial ports [04:04] plan B is something like a udev rule that says "when a USB serial device is created, run screen -dmC foo.conf", where foo.conf is a screenrc that says something like "chdir /var/log; screen /dev/ttyUSB0; log on" [04:04] I don't know really what to say [04:05] Which would result in output to /var/log/screenlog.0 [04:06] Ah, an ":logfile /var/log/router-console.log" to change the logfile [04:17] twb [04:17] what about just reading the serial port like this in a loop ? [04:17] READ=`dd if=/dev/ttyS1 count=1` [04:18] and run screen whenever you want [04:18] read only would be [04:18] stty -F /dev/ttyS1 raw speed 9600 [04:18] just found that somewhere === SquishyNotHere is now known as squishy [04:38] hey all, i have created a pub/priv key combo for this laptop before, but using putty/windows. can i use that same key combo in ubuntu somehow? [04:40] arrrghhh: I don't know what that means. [04:40] arrrghhh: oh, you mean an SSH keypair. [04:41] The PuTTY and OpenSSH formats for SSH keypairs are different, but I think there's a tool to convert from one to the other. [04:48] hrm [04:48] i see the different [04:48] difference* [04:48] i can't just copy/paste? [05:26] Dec 5 02:29:25 alpha kernel: [58505.044670] WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.32/kernel/softirq.c:143 local_bh_enable_ip+0x61/0x90() [05:26] ...and then a kernel backtrace. How do I find out WHAT I'm being warned about? [05:34] is there a program that'll fix permissions of a serveR? [05:34] i actidently chowned everything in / to root:root [05:39] vraa: no [05:39] vraa: it'll be easiest to just do a full reinstall [05:57] What are these ntpd messages about? http://paste.debian.net/101624/ [06:00] twb: http://bugs.ntp.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452 [06:00] bugs.ntp.org bug 452 in ntpd "kernel flipping between PLL and FLL" [Normal,Verified: fixed] [06:00] Thanks [06:01] Any idea if I should do anything, and if so, what? [06:05] twb: nope, but since it doesn't seem to be an error, I'd ignore it. [06:05] twb: I also have *some* of these messages in my logs [06:05] I have *lots* [06:06] twb: all virtual machines? [06:06] twb: I have these messages only on virtual machines (vmware to be specific) [06:07] twb: ok, skip that. it also occurs on "physical" machines [06:08] No, this is a router [06:08] But I do also see a kernel backtrace re ntpd, which I suspect means I need "notsc" [06:11] FWIW I only see a couple of flips on my lucid server === COKE_ is now known as cokegen [09:36] New bug: #685801 in minicom (universe) "Serial console not working on Ubuntu 10.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685801 === Adrian is now known as Guest13119 [09:48] Hi [09:48] Just a question. Does anybody know how/when Apache Tomcat is updated within Ubuntu, as we have some problems with the current version (6.0.24)? [09:55] Guest13119: in what way "how" it's updated ? [09:58] Ubuntu currently delivers 6.0.24 [09:59] but we need a newer version to get our application working, but don't wan't to force our customers to install it without apt-get [09:59] Guest13119: you'll need to log a bug requesting a package update then [09:59] ah okay, thanks, so now only the question, where can I do this ? [10:00] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/report-problem [10:00] Guest13119: launchpad.net [10:01] Thanks al ot [10:01] a lot [10:04] Guest13119: it may not hurt to find out who built that package and chase them for help directly or your request will just set there doing nothing [10:05] okay [10:25] Guest13119: as a rule, RELEASED versions of Ubuntu do not ever receive new (upstream) versions of constituent packages. [10:26] lucid (10.04) has tomcat 6.0.24, but maverick and natty both have 6.0.28. [10:27] IMO you should probably either fix your application to work with .24, or advise your customers to upgrade to a non-LTS version of Ubuntu. [10:39] hm, not good, as enterprise customers always need LTS === Guest13119 is now known as Adrian_ [10:50] At least your customers are running 10.04 [10:50] Almost all of mine are either on RHEL4 or 8.04 [11:00] Kerberos debug time! [11:00] I followed the ubuntu-serverguide's §6.3 kerberos chapter. [11:00] I went into kadmin on the kdc and did "addprinc fred", giving the password as "fred". [11:01] On the krb client machine (also 10.04), I've configured it per §6.3.3 (Kerberos Linux Client), and I can "kinit fred", but I *do not* get a TGT automatically when I log in on tty1. [11:02] (Where I log in to a local user account created with "adduser fred", also giving the password as fred.) [11:10] anyone here have experience with an Areca 1230 12P sata raid controller? Considering buying one used to upgrade storage, but can't find much about it's compatibility with Ubuntu server [11:10] LagMonste: I tend to go with md RAID [11:11] I'm getting a Error 15: FIle not found while trying to boot a machine. The kernel images appear to be where they should be .. [11:11] yea i've been running MD raid for the 4 onboard drives (AMD SB600) and it's never had a single issue [11:11] sb700* [11:12] milligan: from grub? [11:12] twb, yes [11:13] That's probably grub trying to find its stage 2 in /boot/grub/ [11:13] I don't debug grub problems anymore, I just install extlinux. But that's not the party line, so I guess I'll shut up. [11:14] God damn. I just installed slapd on the dom0 instead of a domU [11:15] twb, is there any way I can fix it? :( [11:15] milligan: probably you would need to boot a live medium and piss-fart around rerunning grub-install and hoping it guesses things correctly. [11:15] gah [11:16] There's a low-level utility (grub-setup?) that you can use to Do What I Tell You, but IIRC they try to hide it from you [11:17] Waaay back I used to have to use it to force it to load the grub md raid1 and lvm modules, when I was experimenting with /boot on LVM on RAID1. === LagMonste is now known as LagMo [11:33] Is rescue mode from the 10.04 install cd useless? [11:36] Basically, yes. [11:36] If you are clever like me, you can do some things with it. But generally I use the Debian Live "rescue" image, or the CentOS 5 live CD [11:37] I did a reinstall of grub, without that making any difference.. [11:37] I think reinstalling grub only works if you shake magic pixie dust over the rack or something [11:38] this is gay. fuck dist-upgrade :( [11:38] FWIW, dist-upgrade is not the supported upgrade method -- do-release-upgrade is. [11:38] yeah, that's what I used. [11:38] http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_live_beta1/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-squeeze-live-beta1-amd64-rescue.iso for the Squeeze rescue CD [11:39] milligan: please keep your language and topic in line with the Code of Conduct [11:39] Yeah, the PC term is "fagtacular" [11:39] >duck< [11:40] ..., seriously [11:41] hm, could it be that the uuid of the disk has changed? [11:41] (Or even missing ?) [11:41] milligan: disks don't have UUIDs; filesystems, LVM LVs and md RAID arrays do. [11:42] IIRC disks have bus addresses [11:42] well, the grub menu def has a uuid set as the root .. could that uuid be wrong .. ? [11:42] milligan: sure, that's the filesystem UUID for /boot (or /) [11:46] ooooo - think I got something running here.. [11:46] Atleast it's moving forwards now. [11:46] tune2fs -l will list the UUID for an ext[234] fs [11:46] blkid will probably work for anything [11:47] milligan: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ [11:47] <[diablo]> anyone have any idea why an NFS mount on a 10.10 Server is giving me totally incorrect uid:gid on all dirs and files please? [11:48] Or that :-) [11:48] Let me check :) [11:48] [diablo]: NFS does not keep IDs in sync between hosts [11:48] [diablo]: are you using something like NIS or LDAP for that? [11:49] <[diablo]> twb, Hi... nope [11:49] <[diablo]> twb, the NetApp has all the dir's and files owned by id:80 (www-data) on all other machines [11:49] [diablo]: for example, if "id fred" returns a UID of 1000 on the NFS client but 500 on the NFS server, that is why. [11:49] <[diablo]> twb, other machines being CentOS 5 [11:50] [diablo]: NetApp is the NFS server? [11:50] <[diablo]> twb, but its mounting in with Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx) Uid: (4294967294/ UNKNOWN) Gid: (4294967294/ UNKNOWN [11:50] <[diablo]> twb, yep, NFS is on the NetApp [11:50] 4294967294 is probably because one of your machines is using signed UIDs, the other unsigned, and the NFS export is root_squashed, so one man's nobody:nogroup is another's UNKNOWN:UNKNOWN. [11:51] [diablo]: try sshing into each box and running "getent passwd" and "getent group", and checking what accounts have different UIDs/GIDs [11:51] <[diablo]> twb, good point about the signed UID's [11:52] I had an osol10 backup server explode because its UIDs are actually smaller (like, int32 vs uint32), and the RHEL box's nobody account didn't fit. [11:52] jpds, twb , the uuid is wrong it seems. Can I just edit it in the /boot/grub/menu.lst and it'll be fine ? [11:53] milligan: it's grub.cfg now [11:53] milligan: but yes, probably. I don't know if update-grub will blow that away and put hte wrong UUID back [11:55] what's the default password for a rescue session, ssh ? [11:55] NFI [11:55] <[diablo]> twb, can I should you the two mounts? [11:55] I usually boot into single and run passwd to break into it, becauise it's easier than remembering [11:55] [diablo]: whatever, man. Use pastebin for anything large. [11:55] <[diablo]> twb, bs-nas02:/vol/dev_gfx on /mnt type nfs (rw,vers=4,addr=10.10.10.244,clientaddr=10.10.10.211 <---- Ubuntu Server 10.10 [11:56] <[diablo]> twb, nas2:/vol/gfx on /nas/gfx type nfs (rw,addr=10.10.5.62) <--- centos 5 [11:56] [diablo]: that doesn't matter [11:57] Well, I suppose NFSv3 vs. NFSv4 might. [11:57] Also, you should be inspecting /proc/mounts -- don't trust /etc/mtab, it's full of lies. [11:57] <[diablo]> :) [11:58] In /etc/ssl/foo.info, what's the correct syntax so that the key is valid for both "foo" and "foo.example.net" ? [12:00] Fixing the UUID in menu.lst looks to be working. At least the machine and services are booting back up now. How can I fix this permanently? And why would grub be installing the wrong uuid ? [12:01] milligan: just run update-grub and confirm it doesn't put the wrong UUID in there [12:01] milligan: then it's fixed about as permanently as you're going to get [12:04] It seems wrong for all the other kernels .. but still correct for the one that I managed to boot. [12:04] <[diablo]> odd, seems I can not force the mount to v3 [12:05] <[diablo]> even setting vers=3 [12:05] <[diablo]> it mounts it as nfs4 [12:06] [diablo]: I don't know much about nfsv4 [12:06] <[diablo]> np [12:07] Much as I hate Microsoft, I'll take a homogeneous SMB2 network over a heterogeneous SMB2-for-Windows/OS X, NFSv4-for-Unix. [12:35] I guess I just had to compile the latest alsa driver to get sound to work on a friends laptop. is there a way I can create a dkms script to auto install the drives when there is a kernel upgrade? are there docs on how this can be done on Ubuntu? [12:45] bigbrovar: ideally, create a seperate package... and use one of the existing dkm'sified as reference [12:45] i'm sure others will appreciate it, if you push it to a PPA [12:46] unfortunately I am not a packager and have no skill at packaging :) I am willing to learn though if you point me to a doc. [12:47] just a guy trying to help out [13:06] bigbrovar: try #ubuntu-devel === xfaf is now known as zul === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk [13:52] Hi, anyone experienced some timezone related issue with postgresql on 10.04 overnight? [14:01] for about 2 hours I had the following error on my servers: "psycopg2.OperationalError: can't set datestyle to ISO" [14:02] at about the same time, on a different set of server I had SET TIME ZONE failed [14:02] I went through the logs but cannot find anything [14:02] well, what timezone do you use? [14:02] also the "issue" seems to have resolved by itself [14:02] and maybe, what timezone is your clock set to [14:03] EST [14:03] very odd [14:03] indeed :-) [14:03] * RoyK labels a couple of driver 'Naughty sectors' and returns them whence they came [14:05] <[diablo]> OK I still can not get an nfs3 mount going... it will only mount as nfs4 ... grrrr [14:05] <[diablo]> anyone help please? === cradek_ is now known as cradek [14:15] hallyn_: hi! fyi, qemu manpage disappeared again: [14:15] $ man kvm [14:15] man: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/kvm.1 is a dangling symlink [14:16] $ man qemu [14:16] No manual entry for qemu [14:23] grrr [14:24] jdstrand: you use schroot, right? have you had to do anything to make it work in natty? [14:24] hallyn_: so I have another weird kvm issue. are you on natty yet? [14:24] hallyn_: I run natty [14:24] yes i am, and yes i have issues too. i just haven't had time to investigate [14:24] hallyn_: have you seen this: [14:24] [39656.368496] unregister_netdevice: waiting for vnet0 to become free. Usage count = 1 [14:25] hallyn_: where kvm in libvirt won't shutdown? [14:25] hm, no i haven't. it sounds familiar from years ago with an lxc issue [14:25] all right, i think that's a libvirt issue then [14:25] no [14:25] well, I don't think so [14:25] kvm from cmdline does the same thin? [14:25] if I downgrade to the maverick kernel, all is fine [14:25] (I thought I'd started a few and not had that, but...) [14:26] so this morning I am trying to find a simple kvm reproducer, and I get something that acts similarly: [14:26] /usr/bin/kvm -M pc -m 256 -no-acpi -drive file=./disk0.qcow2 -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0 [14:26] hallyn_: ^ that is unkillable, even with kill -9 [14:27] hallyn_: I tried with ',script=' too, same thing (the vm actually starts though, but I can't kill the kvm process) [14:27] jdstrand: what about with the qemu daily build? [14:27] I haven't tried that [14:27] so, meanwhile - you have no issues with sbuild under natty? [14:28] it seems like a kernel thing-- userspace shouldn't be able to block SIGKILL [14:28] right [14:28] hallyn_: I did have issues until my upload on friday. are you referring tot he sysvinit thing? [14:28] yes [14:28] hallyn_: just upgrade and it should work [14:29] 0.60.5-1ubuntu2 [14:30] hallyn_: I will file a bug on the unkillable kvm. I will add two tasks-- qemu-kvm and linux so that both camps know about it [14:30] jdstrand: huh, thanks - i upgraded saturday, but still have -1ubuntu1 [14:30] jdstrand: thanks. there's also a (separate?) issue with starting windows vm's [14:30] maybe the buildds were benind... [14:30] i'm hoping to clear my plate so i can look at these [14:30] behind [14:30] or benign [14:30] hehe [14:31] * hallyn_ says "hm" and goes to check lkml for vnet0/kvm clues while wiating for upgrade to finish [14:34] oh well, i'll try both qemu daily and the kernel daily builds, and roll the dice [14:39] hallyn_: fryi bug #685991 [14:39] Launchpad bug 685991 in qemu-kvm "cannot stop kvm processing that use 'tap'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685991 [14:40] wow, that is a horrible bug title [14:40] * jdstrand fixes it [14:41] jdstrand: interesting, i think the manpage fix was a victim of loic's fix of my snafu in using UDD to pull in the new 0.13.0 release. if you follow :) [14:46] New bug: #685991 in qemu-kvm (main) "cannot stop kvm processing that use 'tap'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685991 === giovani_ is now known as giovani [15:17] hey === SirFiChi is now known as ihCiFriS === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann [15:32] hello all [15:32] howdy [15:33] i got a question [15:33] i'm new in using linux but i want to learn to understand and to configure linux servers whats the best way for me to start ? [15:34] me too [15:34] i picked up a book from a local store [15:34] you bought a book about linux servers in general or a specific one ? [15:35] it was about 8.04 and 9.10 [15:35] well i use 10.10 so i think best way is to buy a book from the 10.10 version ^ [15:36] called "the official ubuntu server book" [15:36] yesterday i did set up a lamp server on my running ubuntu client but i dont know how to acces or what i can do with it so need to learn it first [15:36] most book descriptions will say which version they're based on, and in reality, there aren't gigantic changes [15:36] i hope i can find it here in belgiu ^ [15:36] belgium* [15:37] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-Ubuntu-Server-Book/dp/0137081332/ [15:38] thats an option too , tahnks [15:38] there are also lots of support documents on the web, [15:38] https://help.ubuntu.com/ [15:38] i'm getting mtrr: type mismatch for d000000,8000000 old: write-back new: write-combining ... in my dmesg; what should I do? this scares me. [15:39] between the documentation, and the book i've been able to start up and start learning [15:40] @WhlteL0tus i'm not sure what the consensus is but, it always made sense to me that servers should be based on the LTS release like 10.04 [15:40] kk [15:43] found a document named ubuntu server guide, i'll be looking into that first [15:46] i've refered to that a couple of times when i was trying to setup some of the features for me samba that the book didn't detail enough [15:47] actually it pointed to the samba howto collection that was exhaustive [15:49] does anyone know if openssh-5.6p1 has been packaged for ubuntu yet? [15:49] zul: bump, can you give bug 611316 a looksy.. just nominated it for lucid/maverick (fix is pending for natty). Thx [15:49] Launchpad bug 611316 in php5 "Segmentation fault in php5-sybase" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611316 [15:49] SpamapS: sure [16:02] am i right if a lamp server is able to understand php, perl and python ? [16:02] Wh1teL0tus: The usualy 'P' in LAMP is for PHP. [16:03] yea but i readed somewhere that it also stands for perl and python [16:03] It can. [16:04] I just was referring to what the lamp-server task installs on Ubuntu. [16:04] but does it means that this lamp server is able to handle the scripts made in php or perl ? [16:05] i'm sorry that i'm asking this noob questions bu i have to start somewhere right ? [16:05] Wh1teL0tus: Well perl and python are installed by default on Ubuntu, so they may be able to be run, although the apache modules for them may not be setup. [16:05] or enabled. [16:06] ooh so for it to work the apachemodules have to be installed aswell [16:06] is that also possible to make the server understand java scripting ? [16:07] Do you mean Java or Javascript? [16:07] Java [16:08] Theres Apache Tomcat. [16:08] I'm not too familiar with it though. [16:08] i'll look it up, thanks for the info [16:08] SpamapS: kirkland: Daviey: zul: what time is the mumble on the installer today? [16:09] dunno..:) [16:14] robbiew: i think Daviey is EoD as well [16:15] zul...uh...he suggested the meeting :/ [16:16] i thought it was clint [16:16] nope...I distinctly remember Daviey suggesting Thu/Fri, but folks were on holiday, so we pushed to Monday [16:18] *sigh* Daviey should have a stern lecturing then ;) [16:27] New bug: #686044 in apache2 (main) "default httpd.conf (blank) causes server name error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686044 [16:41] What is the correct way to get a upstart controled service, such as statd, to start on every reboot? autofs needs it but it isn't starting by default. This just gives errors: update-rc.d statd enable [16:46] Are there any known issues with Launchpad mailing list ? [16:46] I get email stating they cannot send to the ML === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen [17:06] shouldn't debuild 2&>1 foo.txt redirect output of this command to a text file? [17:24] is there anything better than vnc for visual desktop connections to linux? [17:24] ie RDP clones / knock offs [17:29] ssh -X [17:44] Kaffien: NX [18:02] Hi, need help. Have a newly made raid5, with 5 disks. But after some problem with mdadm.conf file it now only assembles with 4 out of 5 disks. Says the last one is removed. [18:02] How can I fix this? [18:02] pastebin your /proc/mdraid [18:05] is it a file or comand? I dont have a /proc/mdraid only /proc/mdstat [18:06] When I assemble the raid, it says that the missing disk sdg has no [18:06] raid superblock, and wrong uuid [18:09] The raid is working, and I got a spare identical disk in the machine. So can I add that disk, and then afterwords grow the raid with the missing sdg? [18:11] I've got a small arm based server that I need to use a usb stick to provide /var/cache. On boot it's not recognized. I have to remove and insert the stick after boot, then do fdisk -l /dev/sdb, and then mount /dev/sdb1. Any suggestions on how I might make this work at boot? [18:17] ScottK: i just put the commands in local.rc [18:17] and it automatically takes care of the sudoing [18:17] resno: I guess I just need to figure out how to get it to recognize the device without removing and reinserting after boot. [18:17] Thanks. [18:18] ah, hopefully that will help you along... thats the most i can offer [18:20] Every little bit helps. [18:58] How do I remove a ext2 file system from a disk so I can add it to a raid? [19:00] dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/md1 [19:00] (but unmount it first) [19:00] good point :) [19:02] I have deleted the partition and recreated it, it stil says it contains a ext2 when trying to create a array with it. it ask if I shuld do it anyway. Anyone know if its ok to go ahed, or will it couse truble? [19:03] well you'd do the dd after you created the array - assuming that they are separate [19:04] another option would be to tar up the file system somewhere else and extract it after [19:05] eriksson26: I think you should read the docs [19:05] eriksson26: you've got two different layers confused [19:06] Well I have set up raid before, but never goten this warning. [19:07] if you don't care about the 'hidden' ext2 file system, tell it to go ahead.. if you do, dd is your friend [19:07] No I dont care about it, oki then I tell it to create =) [19:07] thanks for the help. [19:10] Is it ok to add two disks to a rebuilding array? or shuld I let it finish first? [19:12] if you already started, then let it finish [19:13] eriksson26 - just out of curiosity, what does your server do? db? [19:13] file storage [19:13] gotcha [19:14] it will take 2 days for it to complete, but that is fine, will add the two other disk later. [19:15] oki maby only one day =) [19:20] is it illegal for me to store historical data such as break-in attempts/scanning [19:22] its no secret our servers get hit hard... but what if i want to collect data and save it? i am facing the internet but i do not invite not a one. [19:22] doubtful - but not doing so may be.. [19:22] depends on where the server is, where your company is, etc [19:22] no company. old pc sitting in my room [19:23] up to you then [19:23] cool because im starting to dump my logs into a database [19:23] i think this can be prove useful [19:23] lots of good info on there I would suspect [19:24] oh ya and makes you wonder what code is behind there requests [19:24] not sure how to get that safely but im sure i could query it from there evil servers easily [19:26] alot of requests from china and russia sctipters [19:28] Thats rather normal as far as internet facing servers go. I get a number of login attempts on my boring server each day. [19:28] through ssh or other means? [19:28] Through ssh mostly. [19:29] I use fail2ban though. [19:29] ya me too i was not too worried about that as much as apache [19:29] whats fail2ban [19:29] changing the port for ssh (22) to something else cuts down on the number of hits... won't prevent anyone that is doing bad though [19:30] i was thinking about blocking but i want to log what they doing ya know [19:30] i want to learn whats out there not avoid [19:30] you might want to consider setting up a honey pot if you don't care about that old box [19:30] ya thats a good one. [19:31] fail2ban is not just for ssh, it has apache filters setup by default as well. [19:31] no i need the box but as soon as i can come up on another one or two i will make a sweet sticky pot!! [19:31] is fail2ban more software? [19:31] !info fail2ban [19:31] fail2ban (source: fail2ban): bans IPs that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-2 (maverick), package size 93 kB, installed size 660 kB [19:32] Its the first thing I install after I install ssh. [19:32] you can usually pick up a p4 box for about $15 in garage sales [19:32] oh i see. sounds cool. i will look into it. you could write a script to do it light weght style or even iptables can block [19:33] you know i wonder how to tell if someone actually compromised my system. i mean i suspect none but you never know unless you planned from the beginning on checking [19:34] take a look at tripwire [19:34]